My theory regarding Yamato's origins is that she's the daughter of Kaido and Kurozumi Higurashi. It would have been some kind of deal and the "only" way Kaido could have an heir.
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RE: Chapter 1076: Old Friends
@cavendishsama True, but when we see them fighting post-timeskip, they weren't using any weapons.
They are both best friends and "rivals", they like to compete with each other, it's part of their nature, just like we like to compete with our friends on video games just to see who's the best for example..this is how I see their post-timeskip fight.Their weapons were worn out already and completely destroyed after the LG arc, I think that for them fighting without their beloved weapons wasn't just the same.
If I remember well, Oimo and Kashii used to think that their captains were dead, that's what the Marines told them and why they remained at Enies Lobby. I'd have to look for that specific scene, but I think they told Usopp that they were gonna look for their captains.
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@electricmastro said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
So although the "Kurozumi Tama" detail was revealed in SBS instead of in the manga itself, I suspect this will play a bigger role in the future of Wano in light of Oda emphasizing on how discrimination persists in society even to this day. How would you guys think this would affect Tama and those around her?
Personally, I don't think this point will be important in the story. I assume that the next time we see Wano, it will be attacked by someone who's after Pluton. So I don't think Tama's true name will matter if it's a war context.
By the way, I don't think the heroes will blame Tama for being a Kurozumi, even though Hiyori said hm..what she said. The Kurozumi clan used to support the Kozuki clan for centuries until one of them decided to betray them. Orochi, Kanjuro...they all turned totally evil because of that, but now this is history, and I'm pretty sure Kin and the others will never blame Tama for what happened in the past.
To me, it seems like everything is back to order.
The fact that Tama is a Kurozumi or not doesn't matter, and I think it may be why Oda decided to reveal that detail in the SBS instead of the main story. It's a way of telling us : "look, Tama might be a Kurozumi but she suffered like all the other people. Her parents died not because of the Kozuki, but because of Kaido and Orochi's tyranny. Whatever her name is, she had all the reasons to hate Orochi for what she had to live, so the fact that she's a Kurozumi is a detail now, and she's free to live her life without having to carry the weight of the past".
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RE: Chapter 1076: Old Friends
@Deicide said in Chapter 1076: Old Friends:
@Ryuga-san said in Chapter 1076: Old Friends:
If I remember well, Oimo and Kashii used to think that their captains were dead, that's what the Marines told them and why they remained at Enies Lobby.
Just a small correction: the marines told them Dorry and Broggy were imprisoned in Impel Down. Oimo and Kashi made a deal to guard Enies Lobby for 50(?) years, in exchange for their captains' freedom.
Thanks! I had forgotten about this part
@cavendishsama said in Chapter 1076: Old Friends:
@Ryuga-san
The fact is, they continued fighting for more than 2 years. Now they've stopped, so we need an explanation. If Oda wanted the duel to end because they didn't have their weapons anymore, he could have done that, but he didn't.chapter 431. "If our captains are still dueling, we can't go near that island. We're gonna stay hear for a while before returning to Elbaf"
Next time we see them: Cover of 490. Oimo and Kashi return to Elbaf.
We need a clarification from Oda, yes. Even if Oimo and Kashii didn't go to Little Garden, it doesn't sound unrealistic to me that Dorry and Broggy decided to go back to Elbaf on their own.
Maybe they got bored and it was the right moment for them.
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RE: Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
@electricmastro said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@Ryuga-san said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@electricmastro Yeah I agree with you, I have a similar point of view on the matter.
Higurashi, with her "Mane Mane" fruit could copy anyone's appearance, so technically she could have taken the form of someone like Big Mom who has the same height of Kaido and then...well I don't need to describe the rest I thinkI imagine that Kaido said "okay I'll come to your country if you can provide me weapons...but I also need a heir..you! Do it!" and Higurashi probably replied something like : "nikyokyokyo if that's the only price to pay, the pleasure is mine".
Kaido : "Let me warn you. This child will be mine, my heir, my son. You won't have any right over him, he won't know his mother, he will be an Oni"
Higurashi : "I've never liked kids anyways, not that I care, the Kurozumi family already has a successor ni kyo kyo"
Higurashi prob approached Kaido with an offer for an heir that most people before never got the courage to do because Higurashi might have known him even before the Kurozumi and Beasts Pirates allied. Higurashi had copies of Shiki’s face and possibly even Stussy’s, so it could delve into this idea that either Higurashi was part of Rocks or was a close affiliate of them.
Yes, absolutely.
It makes no doubt to me that Higurashi was either an official member of Rocks or affiliated with them. I'm pretty sure that's how she got to meet Kaido and to know about his passion for war and weapons etc.
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@onemoment said in ONE PIECE × McDonald:
I like Robin's expression. I'd like to think she knows this thing is extremely stupid and is dying inside.
Also, notice Sanji. He's holding an orange, or some other kind of piece of fruit. He's staring into it, while not really looking at anything else. You know what I think that is? Cause a chef of his caliber isn't going to waste his time or attention on greasy fast food.
The only way this advert would have made sense for me is if it was something like a "Vega" burger or some actual food directly inspired from the manga.
Like "oh cool there's a Vega cola and Vega burger exactly like in the manga" etc.I totally agree with your post honestly, this collaboration may make sense in terms of money and marketing, which is good for McDonalds, but for the rest..it's 100% stupid.
The picture of Roger about to be sentenced to death and who only thought about fulfilling his last "duty" and making sure someone will go search for the One Piece, has been turned into a picture of Roger holding what? A burger...! It's worst than a parody in my opinion.
Okay this is just marketing, I shouldn't take that too seriously, but still...
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RE: Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
@electricmastro said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@Ryuga-san said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@electricmastro said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@Ryuga-san said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@electricmastro Yeah I agree with you, I have a similar point of view on the matter.
Higurashi, with her "Mane Mane" fruit could copy anyone's appearance, so technically she could have taken the form of someone like Big Mom who has the same height of Kaido and then...well I don't need to describe the rest I thinkI imagine that Kaido said "okay I'll come to your country if you can provide me weapons...but I also need a heir..you! Do it!" and Higurashi probably replied something like : "nikyokyokyo if that's the only price to pay, the pleasure is mine".
Kaido : "Let me warn you. This child will be mine, my heir, my son. You won't have any right over him, he won't know his mother, he will be an Oni"
Higurashi : "I've never liked kids anyways, not that I care, the Kurozumi family already has a successor ni kyo kyo"
Higurashi prob approached Kaido with an offer for an heir that most people before never got the courage to do because Higurashi might have known him even before the Kurozumi and Beasts Pirates allied. Higurashi had copies of Shiki’s face and possibly even Stussy’s, so it could delve into this idea that either Higurashi was part of Rocks or was a close affiliate of them.
Yes, absolutely.
It makes no doubt to me that Higurashi was either an official member of Rocks or affiliated with them. I'm pretty sure that's how she got to meet Kaido and to know about his passion for war and weapons etc.
And the fact that the Kurozumis got as far as having a child named Tama 8 years ago could also give leeway for there to be multiple other Kurozumi descendants to be out there in Wano too.
Exactly, and maybe they curse their name because, just like all the other people in Wano, they suffered a lot under Orochi's tyranny.
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RE: Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
@electricmastro said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@Ryuga-san said in Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2:
@electricmastro Yeah I agree with you, I have a similar point of view on the matter.
Higurashi, with her "Mane Mane" fruit could copy anyone's appearance, so technically she could have taken the form of someone like Big Mom who has the same height of Kaido and then...well I don't need to describe the rest I thinkI imagine that Kaido said "okay I'll come to your country if you can provide me weapons...but I also need a heir..you! Do it!" and Higurashi probably replied something like : "nikyokyokyo if that's the only price to pay, the pleasure is mine".
Kaido : "Let me warn you. This child will be mine, my heir, my son. You won't have any right over him, he won't know his mother, he will be an Oni"
Higurashi : "I've never liked kids anyways, not that I care, the Kurozumi family already has a successor ni kyo kyo"
Higurashi prob approached Kaido with an offer for an heir that most people before never got the courage to do because Higurashi might have known him even before the Kurozumi and Beasts Pirates allied. Higurashi had copies of Shiki’s face and possibly even Stussy’s, so it could delve into this idea that either Higurashi was part of Rocks or was a close affiliate of them.
Yes, absolutely.
It makes no doubt to me that Higurashi was either an official member of Rocks or affiliated with them. I'm pretty sure that's how she got to meet Kaido and to know about his passion for war and weapons etc.
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RE: Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !
@electricmastro said in Greg: Teacher of SUPER " OP " course !:
So although the "Kurozumi Tama" detail was revealed in SBS instead of in the manga itself, I suspect this will play a bigger role in the future of Wano in light of Oda emphasizing on how discrimination persists in society even to this day. How would you guys think this would affect Tama and those around her?
Personally, I don't think this point will be important in the story. I assume that the next time we see Wano, it will be attacked by someone who's after Pluton. So I don't think Tama's true name will matter if it's a war context.
By the way, I don't think the heroes will blame Tama for being a Kurozumi, even though Hiyori said hm..what she said. The Kurozumi clan used to support the Kozuki clan for centuries until one of them decided to betray them. Orochi, Kanjuro...they all turned totally evil because of that, but now this is history, and I'm pretty sure Kin and the others will never blame Tama for what happened in the past.
To me, it seems like everything is back to order.
The fact that Tama is a Kurozumi or not doesn't matter, and I think it may be why Oda decided to reveal that detail in the SBS instead of the main story. It's a way of telling us : "look, Tama might be a Kurozumi but she suffered like all the other people. Her parents died not because of the Kozuki, but because of Kaido and Orochi's tyranny. Whatever her name is, she had all the reasons to hate Orochi for what she had to live, so the fact that she's a Kurozumi is a detail now, and she's free to live her life without having to carry the weight of the past".
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RE: Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
@electricmastro Yeah I agree with you, I have a similar point of view on the matter.
Higurashi, with her "Mane Mane" fruit could copy anyone's appearance, so technically she could have taken the form of someone like Big Mom who has the same height of Kaido and then...well I don't need to describe the rest I thinkI imagine that Kaido said "okay I'll come to your country if you can provide me weapons...but I also need a heir..you! Do it!" and Higurashi probably replied something like : "nikyokyokyo if that's the only price to pay, the pleasure is mine".
Kaido : "Let me warn you. This child will be mine, my heir, my son. You won't have any right over him, he won't know his mother, he will be an Oni"
Higurashi : "I've never liked kids anyways, not that I care, the Kurozumi family already has a successor ni kyo kyo"
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RE: Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread v.2
My theory regarding Yamato's origins is that she's the daughter of Kaido and Kurozumi Higurashi. It would have been some kind of deal and the "only" way Kaido could have an heir.
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RE: Chapter 1076: Old Friends
@Deicide said in Chapter 1076: Old Friends:
@Ryuga-san said in Chapter 1076: Old Friends:
If I remember well, Oimo and Kashii used to think that their captains were dead, that's what the Marines told them and why they remained at Enies Lobby.
Just a small correction: the marines told them Dorry and Broggy were imprisoned in Impel Down. Oimo and Kashi made a deal to guard Enies Lobby for 50(?) years, in exchange for their captains' freedom.
Thanks! I had forgotten about this part
@cavendishsama said in Chapter 1076: Old Friends:
@Ryuga-san
The fact is, they continued fighting for more than 2 years. Now they've stopped, so we need an explanation. If Oda wanted the duel to end because they didn't have their weapons anymore, he could have done that, but he didn't.chapter 431. "If our captains are still dueling, we can't go near that island. We're gonna stay hear for a while before returning to Elbaf"
Next time we see them: Cover of 490. Oimo and Kashi return to Elbaf.
We need a clarification from Oda, yes. Even if Oimo and Kashii didn't go to Little Garden, it doesn't sound unrealistic to me that Dorry and Broggy decided to go back to Elbaf on their own.
Maybe they got bored and it was the right moment for them.
I guess we will have the answer when the straw hats go to Elbaf.