Zoro's character change…

I don't know if you feel like I do but somebody else noticed that Zoro is calmer, cooler and colder than in the begining of the series???

In the beginning I found him hot-fired not as much as Luffy or Sanji but still a bit… Sometimes he smiles or laugh with the crew and did goofy things but with the beginning of the DBF he change... He shows no emotion even if one of his friends (Chopper) are crying or like Merry dying... and have no big realationship to others of the crew. He alwasy does whta he had to do for the crew or what Luffy says him but it seems that he doesn't care much about it..

For me he is the only one how change his character...

Luffy is still... Luffy
Nami is still... Nami
and so on...

Maybe Robin will change a bit but it will be a positive change cause all of his troubles are gone with this arc.

So my question is... Wha do yout think happened that Zoro seems to be changing???

Maybe the Kitets or lost battles like against Eneru or Ao Kiji or is he just sick of goofing arounf with the others???

Malintex_Terek

Zoro's exactly the same; an evil, tough badarse of a swordsman. Oda just hasn't spoofed him for comic relief purposes in a while; the last major one I could remember was in Jaya. In this, Zoro's in need of an update.

Kaku. 0

I think he is just the most grown up Mugiwara besides Robin and more realistic than the others. And since sky island they didn't had anything to laugh about.

AWB

Remember when Zoro made Luffy eat his own boogers? Remember when Zoro told the Usopp Pirates that they ate their captain?

I miss that Zoro.

UsoppKing

I think Oda spoofed Zoro pretty good in chapter 431 when he got lost trying to warn the crew.

dinty

Well, see, there's this thing called "adulthood" and …

Ah, nevermind.
I've already said too much about Zoro and his emotions here:

http://apforums.net/showthread.php?p=367439#post367439

edit : I agree with M.Terek though – he's long overdue for a big spoofing.

Dubanka

Despite being the most serious strawhat, his battle with Kaku was arguably the funniest of all the CP9 battles. What with the pasta machine, the gorilla move, the jajajaja, and no weak spot. If you add in Soge-sword, I don't know how much more you can ask from Zoro in terms of humor. He just has a drier form of humor than the other strawhats.

Dahna

@Dubanka:

Despite being the most serious strawhat, his battle with Kaku was arguably the funniest of all the CP9 battles. What with the pasta machine, the gorilla move, the jajajaja, and no weak spot. If you add in Soge-sword, I don't know how much more you can ask from Zoro in terms of humor. He just has a drier form of humor than the other strawhats.

Add the V-sign scene to that in one of the latest chapters (don't know the exact one right now) XD
that was also really funny.

Zoro is good as he is right now. or do you want him to be like Usopp and Luffy? O.o

Roronoa DJ

Zoro has been throuhg a lot. He was stuck on a chimney, lost few times in EL et cetera. And that katana. I'm so bitter about that katana. I liked Yubashiri, it was beautiful. And black. I like black katanas
And Zoro's forehead is perfect for tough and serious look. He rarely looks suprised and when he does look… that tough look stays. But if Zoro is funny, he IS funny. I like his humor. But it bugs me, that Zoro is sometimes kinda stupid. But that doesn't have anything to do with this.

edit: read the previous post oh god NO. I don't want him to be like Luffy or Usopp o___O

ONEinchPUNCH

Zoro's always been a serious guy but i have noticed him being a bit darker in this arc, but i think everyone's acting a bit more serious in this arc due to the situation. They were fighting for a nakama everything was a stake losing was not an option so i can see why zoro is serious he's leaving no room for error.

dinty

everything was a stake losing was not an option so i can see why zoro is serious he's leaving no room for error.

His "danger radar" has been in overdrive for a long time – and will continue to be so as the Mugiwara face meaner and stronger enemies. I get the feeling that Zoro knows his nakama are strong, but still worries about them because he cares about them.

(If he was apathetic or un-caring, why would he have been running like a madman to warn them after he spotted the WG ships?).

Polygon

**Everyone, not only Zoro, was more tense during the Eneis Lobby raid. Even Luffy. Compare the mid-W7/Arabasta SH with the SH from a chapter right after a major event. Their a whole lot more playful and stuff.

His little encounter with Mihawk is what changed him though. Compare Zoro around abd before the time of the booger scene with Zoro on the ship with Yosaku and Usopp on their way to find Nami and Merry.

I don't think he changed much really, besides the laughing and his eyebrows.**

Are you trying to say that after going through all they did, you would seriously be exactly the same? In real life, people grow and change after time… and any good story's characters would do just the same. That's just what I think...

Coup de Manthong

For all of you decrying Zoro for a lack of comedic moments:

V for Victory.

That is all.

KamenRiderNeko

@Malintex_Terek:

Zoro's exactly the same; an evil, tough badarse of a swordsman. Oda just hasn't spoofed him for comic relief purposes in a while; the last major one I could remember was in Jaya. In this, Zoro's in need of an update.

Totally agree with you on that….

@Dubanka:

Despite being the most serious strawhat, his battle with Kaku was arguably the funniest of all the CP9 battles. What with the pasta machine, the gorilla move, the jajajaja, and no weak spot. If you add in Soge-sword, I don't know how much more you can ask from Zoro in terms of humor. He just has a drier form of humor than the other strawhats.

Hahaha that seriously was an awesome fight because of that! It was refreshing to see Zoro in a less serious fight, eventhough I was hoping for something more brutal I guess… but hey, pasta machine.... best move ever.

@Coup:

For all of you decrying Zoro for a lack of comedic moments:

V for Victory.

That is all.

QFT XD

And for the record, Zoro will always be my favorite, I love him the way he is, even if he has the personality of a brick wall XD

ascalon

Zoro didn't get lost in Chapter 431. But on that note, his sense of direction gets worse with each passing arc. It's pretty funny, and comparable to some people I know in real life. However, he sometimes makes you wonder if he's developing alzheimers or something.

Greg

He shows no emotion even if one of his friends (Chopper) are crying or like Merry dying…

Zoro is a 'man' and 'men' don't cry. Of course being an ideal 'man' only works in the manga world. Which is why it's so cool.

But I agree, yeah he still smiles and goofs off but he was a lot light-hearted back then.

As far as crying, I can only recall two times he cried. That was when he lost to Mihawk and made his oath. Then of course when he was a child.

ero_seinen

Zoro is becoming a real swordman. He does have emotions, (he said nice thing to chopper when he woke up after the monster point, same thing for ussopp and the fact he was crying for the going merry…) but he can't allowed himself to show them.

He's becoming a true swordman. In the japanese way, a swordman must allways be in controle of his emotion, and be aware of the world around him at all time. He must hear the voice of his sword during combat and think to nothing else, or he would lose.

It's perhaps because of this that you feel like his heartless. But I don't think it's true. I think he's becoming fatalist (I don't mean it in a negative way, just that he accepts things appened because this his life).

Luffy's changing too. Did you think that before this arc he would be able to accept and burn going merry? He understand now that some stuff can't be changed. And I think they will face situation really drastic like those many times in the future.

Zulen

Throughout his journey, Zoro has seen the world and the dangers it holds. He needs to be physically, and mentally prepared for the coming trials, which is usually why he is suspecting of people.

Mihawk, Mr. 1, and plenty other powerful foes have changed him.

All the characters have changed. We can't forget the especially changing ones, such as Nami and Usopp. They changed dramatically.

BobTheDarkOne

As I said earlier, Zoro needs a big tickle from Robin. And I also miss when he laughed heartily and goofed off with Usopp and luffy. kind of like when he chased Usopp and luffy on the ship's deck when it was covered with soap.

Dr. Casey

Very interesting discussion we have here.

@Pass:

Remember when Zoro made Luffy eat his own boogers? Remember when Zoro told the Usopp Pirates that they ate their captain?

I miss that Zoro.

XD It's easy to forget little moments like those from early on, but those are pretty awesome.

Maybe it's just me, but I found Zoro to be a more sinister character towards the beginning of the series (mainly during the Romance Dawn and Buggy the Clown arcs; he began to come into his own during the Kuro arc, as did One Piece in general). He came off as particularly rough during the first arc; the way he treats Rika and her food is worse than anything he does later on (although I guess he was just stressed out due to his shitty circumstances). During the most recent arcs (keep in mind I've only seen through episode 251) he hasn't ever come across as unfeeling to me. He's calm, but he also seems to be giving the team a lot of guidance; his words to Luffy at the end of episode 236, for instance, and he acts as leader during the conversation they have on the rooftop before going to Iceburg's mansion. He's actually been taking on the big brother role quite a bit more than he did prior to Skypiea. He might not be quite as colorful as he was early on, but he seems a lot more trustworthy now. Also, he seems like the type to function better in small groups; he seems to be more open and talkative in a group of three or four than when the whole Straw Hat team is assembled.

And this doesn't really have much to do with anything, but I loved that part in the G8 arc where Chopper was pretending to have kidnapped Nami and the doctor chick and then Zoro grinned and starting clapping. That's a lighthearted Zoro scene right there.

I've always thought of this change in Zoro as him sort of growing into the role of First Mate. The little speech he gives to Luffy after Luffy's fight with Usopp kind of reinforces this idea. With Luffy unable to lead at that moment he took it upon himself to get him back on track.

Also, after his defeat by Mihawk he seemed to take everything more serious. Maybe he realized how far he had to go before he could really be the strongest swordsman alive and thinks that he has to have a serious attitude in order to fight to his fullest.

Tunaman

I think Zoro has not changed that much but compare to some of the other characters he does not have much time for comic relief.

Everyone is also forgetting after the Kaku fight that he told Kaku that he was fired. Also after he beat Sanji to the bridge to Enies(sp?) Lobby, he made a comment to Sanji, did you get lost. Zoro now seems most of his funnier comments are saved towards Sanji.

Also i believe that recently we have not been getting a lot of Zoro in the arc and the whole last arc was pretty serious. If Zoro was on the goofy side in W7, i think that would take away from the tension of the story, Zoro being one of the more serious character.

Ying_Yang

I like Zoro just the way he is: serious when he needs to be serious, funny when he needs to be funny and kickin' butt when he needs to kick some butt.

His sarcastic sense of humour is right for his type of character. I can't imagine him dancing around like Luffy or Usopp cuz that's just Zoro.

I agree, it has been a while since we've seen Zoro laugh heartily. I would really love to see that. He really is cute when he laughs or smiles without that I-am-going-to-kill-you look.