The only problem is the "my Auntie lived in Ohara, where is she?" people.
World Government's response?
She was killed by the criminal, Nico Robin.
The only problem is the "my Auntie lived in Ohara, where is she?" people.
World Government's response?
She was killed by the criminal, Nico Robin.
Either that or saying "She got executed because she was a Demon that tried to destroy the world".
I mean if that could be sait to guys like Clover who would be in the "I had an Grandpa at Ohara…" corner then the same propaganda could be spread about everybody in Ohara. And make the unlce´s and auntie´s children demons too. If they could make an 8 year old Robin a demon, why couldn´t the same apply to the other kids in her age? The only difference would be that she survived while all the others didn´t.
I have a question, is there any possiblity that Tom was the one that build the Buster Call ships ?
And is Buster Call really a challenge to one big Battle Franky (that will probably be given to Strawhats) ?
Buster Call seems to drawn their power from the men that command it
That's why Nico Robin is so afraid (Ao Kiji and Aka Inu)
Principally Aka Inu since he destroyed a ship full off innocent people just in the case some one was a law breaker
Maybe I'm wrong but that's at it seems to me until the present chapter
Something that called my attention.
The Buster Call was already "on the move" even before Spandine presses the golden button. The ships were already there, the target was clear even before they left the marine headquarters. Pressing the button was just a way to sign to the fleet that the attack should commence.
My point is: what about the current threat of Buster Call. Where are the ships? They do not seem to be close to Enies Lobby. Also, no one could foresee that the Strawhats would go to Enies Lobby.
So, I was thinkink… if Spandam presses the button, will the Buster Call respond as quickly? I would think yes, because the forces of the call are already amassed and waiting for the order. But I think they do not know that the target has moved to Enies Lobby. I believe that they would attack Water 7.
I have a question, is there any possiblity that Tom was the one that build the Buster Call ships ?
Even if he built them, they wouldn´t be as special as the the Oro Jackson. True we haven´t seen what Oro Jackson is capable of doing but it was Tom´s masterpiece. The Buster Call battleships however are mass production. They don´t have the unique masterpiece characteristic.
And is Buster Call really a challenge to one big Battle Franky (that will probably be given to Strawhats) ?
This is what I´m thinking the whole time when it gets to confront the Strawhats with the Buster Call. My opinion is no, one Buster Call ship wouldn´t be a challenge to Franky´s dream ship. Remember that a regular Battle Franky was able to take down a large Sea King. Just imagine what his dream ship would be able to do if you would let Usopp be the sharpshooter.
I´m not saying the dream ship could take down the entire fleet, but 2 or three ships would be a go. You have to think that this is a pirate story and we´ve yet in almost 400 chapters never seen a classic sea battle. I don´t think that Oda will let that one out.
Buster Call seems to drawn their power from the men that command it
Well its fire power is impressive even without those guys. But those guys make sure that strong dudes can´t destroy the fleet. If there wouldn´t have been any Vice Admirals on board I think Saul would have raped the entire fleet.
That´s why I think the Strawhats could take the Buster Call after they´ve all grown in their fight with CP9. Let Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Robin and Franky take out one Vice Admiral each (including the ship they command) and Usopp, Nami and Chopper could work on the other five ships with the dream ship and the Perfect Clima Tact (lighting should work wonders agains ships that are made of wood).
Something that called my attention.
The Buster Call was already "on the move" even before Spandine presses the golden button. The ships were already there, the target was clear even before they left the marine headquarters. Pressing the button was just a way to sign to the fleet that the attack should commence.My point is: what about the current threat of Buster Call. Where are the ships? They do not seem to be close to Enies Lobby. Also, no one could foresee that the Strawhats would go to Enies Lobby.
So, I was thinkink… if Spandam presses the button, will the Buster Call respond as quickly? I would think yes, because the forces of the call are already amassed and waiting for the order. But I think they do not know that the target has moved to Enies Lobby. I believe that they would attack Water 7.
Well I don´t think that the ships have already began to move. But I´m sure that they are on standby at the Marine HQ. With Ohara it was the plan all along to destroy the island, here however it seems so far that it Kiji gave Spandam the authority to use that power as a method to put their opponents under pressure. Having a fleet waiting at Water 7 already would mean that they already had a plan to destroy the entire city from the very beginning and I doubt that they would have good enough reason to do that.
Not that the reason for destroying Ohara was a good one but it was at least some sort of a motive whereas there wouldn´t be such a thing for the destruction of a large metropolis.
I think that the signal would in this case summon the fleet first.
Does that mean that the fleet appears faster when the targets are in the grand line?
Does that mean that the fleet appears faster when the targets are in the grand line?
What do mean by that? Eversince they´ve passed Reverse Mountain they are on the Grand Line. Enies Lobby and Water 7 are also there. I don´t understand the question.
What do mean by that? Eversince they´ve passed Reverse Mountain they are on the Grand Line. Enies Lobby and Water 7 are also there. I don´t understand the question.
What I meant to say was if the buster call could be used in North Blue, East Blue, South blue and West Blue
I don't think it depends on that. IMO there are places in Grand Line which are further from the HQ than E,N,W,S Blue, but who knows. The distance is always a problem, because we are talking about ships that have to reach their destinations like the others, WG decided Ohara's destruction long before the flashback began, they know the island's location and sailed long to reach it.
Hey I was right. Something big did happen in the Buster Call!
Well just my thinking of big is different now. Buster Call is really powerful. Someone like Fire Fist Ace could destroy all those battleships in an instant, but then you have the admirals to deal with. If all the admirals had powers like Kiji, then they wouldn't even need those huge ships that practically continuously rain fiery explosions. The admirals could cover up the evidence by flattening any landscape with their elemental powers (don't all have to be Logia, but they have those colors to their names so it has to be something), while still being able to fight someone like Fire Fist. It's all basically a big multi-layered barrage of some of the most powerful attacks in the WG where one layer is wiped out, and then the next wave comes.
People like Ivotas have probably already said things along what I just said, but I figured I would put it in different terms in combination with my own realization. Plus, there could still be something more, which would make it even more powerful.
What I meant to say was if the buster call could be used in North Blue, East Blue, South blue and West Blue
Ah, now I get it. Well it depends on where the Marine HQ is located. If it is at the place where the Red and Grand Line meet for the second time and if that place has channels that connect to the four Blues then I think that it doesn´t take that long to get to targets in the Blues.
Within the Grand Line however it depends on where the target is. Enies Lobby aren´t that far away from the HQ so it shouldn´t be to difficult to get there.
If you however want to send a BC fleet to Raftel then I think it is much harder to get them over there.
The fundamental limiter is technology. If they had steamboats or the like, I could see it being a more imminent threat, but aren't sailing vessels limited to a few hundred km a day, in ideal conditions?
If you want to destroy a given town x000 km away, you'd have to plan it well in advance, esp. if it involves being against the wind.
I'm also a bit iffy if they need the same Admirals for each BC. What if two are requested at once?
Perhaps they have several BC-calibre groups ready for deployment, one per Blue, a few at spots along the Grand Line (because of the difficulty of navigation)
Except that the Buster Call also neccesitates the appearance of vice admirals and the like. So it'd be impossible to have that many Buster Call fleets waiting unless there are a LOT of vice admirals.
has it ever been mentioned how many vice admirals are in the navy
has it ever been mentioned how many vice admirals are in the navy
At a guess, the Marines probably have a pyramid shaped hierarchy with each tier having such and such a greater amount than the level above it so it's probably somewhere between nine to fifteen of them.
The fundamental limiter is technology. If they had steamboats or the like, I could see it being a more imminent threat, but aren't sailing vessels limited to a few hundred km a day, in ideal conditions?
If you want to destroy a given town x000 km away, you'd have to plan it well in advance, esp. if it involves being against the wind.
I'm also a bit iffy if they need the same Admirals for each BC. What if two are requested at once?
Perhaps they have several BC-calibre groups ready for deployment, one per Blue, a few at spots along the Grand Line (because of the difficulty of navigation)
There must BE steamboats though, because Nami recognized the sea-train as a steam-powered ship.
Maybe steamboats are hard to make, so the navy only has a few of them for real emergencies?
Maybe there are steamboats, or some sort of alternative propulsion.
I'd consider the Buster Call of remarkably low strategic value if it weren't immediate.
Imagine if we knew 9/11 was coming 24 hours in advance, or even 12. Or Pearl Harbour.
If you can even see that many battleships on the horizon, you've got probably an hour or more to evacuate or develop a response. And that eliminates some of the threat the BC causes.