@MasterKingJC:
Good Lord! A spin-off novel about one of the most popular characters who I don't like?!!!!!
We must protect the world from this abhorrent optional, side material that would otherwise be forgotten in a few months!!
How dare Oda be forced to sign off on something that is OBJECTIVELY SHIT!! Because it is. Fact!
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How massively arrogant can you be to believe you can tell a company on the other side of the world what they can or cannot do with a popular character in a popular franchise?
How massively arrogant must you be to compare a fictional character whose actions don't affect the real world to Donald Trump?
I think we know the answer.
My answer to you, at least, is an apology.
Because i can't really grasp a little piece to start an interesting discussion, so i would just ignore you until you can come with something interesting. Aside a talk about me, if wasn't that clear.
@Kaido:
So? Just because Ace did it too doesn't mean either one is cheapened. Sabo's death showed Luffy that the world is a dangerous place and, if he wants to protect others' lives in addition to his own, he'll have to get stronger. Ace's death showed how the New World posed a threat greater than Luffy's imagination and ten years of childhood training could handle, and it was especially effective since Luffy's initial promise as a child was specifically directed at protecting Ace. It's clearly meant to be a follow-up, and it does so well.
I know… as i said; Luffy is stupid because Oda want to, Sabo supposedly died and everyone related had a miss because Oda wanted to, Ace died to give more determination to Luffy and to be buried with his 'father' and release the Mera no mi because Oda wanted to.
Those actions are for the help of the plot, because Oda made the character of Ace as another stupid haughty boy, bold and tough for everyone but ended like a pussy for plot-sake. I deny that very contitution of him. Can't disacredit your comments because his character is made for plot-sake and nothing more.
He started the whole thing and was the direct impetus for all of its events happening. Just because he was not the one to directly transform the pirate age does not mean that he meant nothing in the grand scheme of things.
You'll have to excuse, but the mastermind here is Teach. He didn't had the brains to start something, not even his life course.
Did you…just ignore what I said earlier about Ace apologizing and going out of his way to convince both his crew and Luffy from trying to rescue him? How is that not caring? Not to mention that the direct reason he died was to atone for the mistake he made in going after Akainu by protecting Luffy from Akainu's trap. Your argument makes absolutely no sense.
Oh no, i meant the moment of Akainu's taunt. He stopped fleeing Marineford only to teach him some manners, that's the moment when he didn't gave a shit. Saying sorry is a good thing, but facts tell other thing when talking about Ace.
SPLASHES? Do you really expect me to take your argument seriously with such a statement?
What can i say… Jinbe is strong on a water-styled karate, just as how a fat and rather slow Mizu Luffy hit in some chances to Sir Crocodile.
Luffy is essentially the same as Ace, except with a Paramecia fruit, but is still not at that level.
Luffy is, at least, twice as strong than Ace. Just for facts i can show you that, just whether you feel like arguing it.
This is one supplemental novel. This is not a new manga series aiming to milk more of a dead property. Plus this is only being released as part of a huge anniversary. You're making this a bigger deal than it is
You are right here, but i couldn't keep quiet. Ace is such a blunder, i can't help but think that are characters much more intriguing than him.
What is there to learn about Clover? He was only a historian. We're not going to learn lost history in a supplemental novel.
Rayleigh's and the Roger Pirates' past is relatively unknown for a reason. We'll learn more later in the series. Same with Dragon and the Revolutionaries.
Noland is a relatively minor posthumous character who got an entire volume's worth of a flashback that pretty much showed all we need to know. We could learn more about his discovery of the dwarves, sure, but he's not really a character readers care much about knowing more about.
And a story about Rouge would just be a story about Ace, since that's the entire purpose she served in the story.
Clover could makes us an entry to the very world of researchers in One Piece. How they find stuff and are ransacked, locations of Poneglyphs on the Blues, a story about how the World Government after its foundations started changing the world.
How Rayleigh lived before meeting Roger and Dragon's childhood could help too, what happened for those men categorized as the strongest of the world… that is interesting!
Noland could present the work of the herbologists of One Piece, flora on different islands, he reached the New World too, how he was that strong to catch gigantic fishes by himself, how the kingdoms interacted and how his story became a tale.
Rogue is the only female D.'s, lived on South Blue... how the Portgas family survived to the eons -like Trafalgar's- and how she met Roger and fell in love with him. Ace is a piece without value, he can appear at the end of that story.
Ultimately, your argument and overall opinion about Ace seem to be based on a couple of major things he did while you ignore basically everything else he did that rounded him out as a character and made him such an effective plot device.
My opinion of Ace is simply the most overrated character in One Piece, getting all the features for be liked… and Oda put it out politely and smoothly. Which is the only and one reason for him to be an effective plot device.
For people to go an revive him is like a stupidity for me. I repeat, i'm against Oda working on him (if such case happens) and for how characters far more interesting him don't get the chance to get an interesting review. He's a mere plot device with the most basic personality ever used.