If the general feeling is right and Kaku at a Saru Saru no Mi (Monkey Monkey Fruit) Then what model do you think it is? My vote: Baboon. Suggestions and pictures are welcomed ^_^
Kaku Monkey-Zoan
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is a baboon a monkey or an ape? Will it likely make a differnece? Can "saru" refer to either?
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Baboons' face have long noses xD
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It seems to me that there can only be one logical choice:
Saru Saru no Mi: Model Proboscis! -
I hope thats not true… that's kinda suck >_o did you just asume this from that shape of the fruit he ate? or does it say? ^^'
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Actually, I was just basing it on the fact that they both have big noses. That was the first thing that popped into my head when I thought about Kaku turning into a monkey.
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@Son:
Actually, I was just basing it on the fact that they both have big noses. That was the first thing that popped into my head when I thought about Kaku turning into a monkey.
It just doesn't seem to suit..him for some reason? I mean personality [sp] wise.
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is a baboon a monkey or an ape? Will it likely make a differnece? Can "saru" refer to either?
I think they all count as monkeys, though baboon are called "manto."
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@Son:
It seems to me that there can only be one logical choice:
Saru Saru no Mi: Model Proboscis!Perfect… Proboscis monkeys are native to my home country. I never realized we got a lot of Kakus...
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"Manto," is also a beef dish with vermillion rice from Afghanistan…
Uh, on topic, we can all assume Kaku as a monkey fruit, although I wouldn't be surprised if the name was based on onomatopea as well. I think Oda only resorts to basic words when he cannot think of onomatopea.
A proboscis monkey transformation would be interesting.
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Does this really need it own thread? I mean isn´t this discussion what we have the "Enies Lobby DF" thread for? The thread was not just for speculations on who might eat them but also on what powers they might have.
And as far as the DF is concerned, people already seem to take it for granted that Kaku´s power will be a primate zoan one. Just imagine the WOW effect here if actually other components from Kaku´s real nickname will be his powers; Mountain or Wind. :laugh:
Not that I think it will be one of them, but with Oda you never know.
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I posted it before I realized it didn't need it's own thread. Oh well it's here now.
I still say baboon.
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Gorilla Mode! XD -
Does this really need it own thread? I mean isn´t this discussion what we have the "Enies Lobby DF" thread for? The thread was not just for speculations on who might eat them but also on what powers they might have.
ZOMG THE MIGHTY IVOTAS HAVE SPOKEN!
Seriously, lighten up. If the mods don't see the thread as necessary, they would've merged it.
My prediction.
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ZOMG THE MIGHTY IVOTAS HAVE SPOKEN!
What´s your problem lately? I was just making an observation. There was nothing hostile in my message on which you had to tell me to lighten up. You got some personal affinity to get back on me all the time? It´s as if you´re waiting that I´m making a controversial post to which you can reply.
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You had a point with your SECOND sentence, changsho. Your first one wasn't really very necessary, was it?
I'm of the mindset that this should be merged with the Enies Lobby DF thread… But the last time I tried merging it fucked up. =/ May as well leave it be for now.
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I observe that you take things a bit too seriously. And … wait, was that post edited? :ohmy:
Point is, it's not that everytime someone talks back to you they mean something personal, okay?
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Well it ok in all fairness I have to admit that I don´t hear that for the first time. Rest assured that it actually isn´t meant like that most of the times. Ok I agree, I was on the verge of it in the Franky vs. Paulie thread. And maybe in the chapter 384 discussion with my response to Green Hair. But other than that I actually don´t mean it like that.
If it often gets taken like that, then I´m sorry. It actually isn´t meant as anything else then adding my two cents. -
I understand. I look forward to the merging of the threads…
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I think they all count as monkeys, though baboon are called "manto."
"Manto," is also a beef dish with vermillion rice from Afghanistan…
(this is a little offtopic)
new meanings for my nickname! XD
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ZOMG THE MIGHTY IVOTAS HAVE SPOKEN!
Ok there's only one way to settle this..
Both drop your pants and start measuring!
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@jackvance:
Ok there's only one way to settle this..
Both drop your pants and start measuring!
borrows a measure stick
What more can I say, a Monkey-Zoan sounds like a too obvious and a mountain fruit would rock. But a hair hair fruit that is.
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I would like for him to be a proboscis monkey. Because (according to Tezuka's Hino Tori/Phoenix manga anyway), the proboscis monkeys might have inspired the legends about the mythical Tengu goblin (which I think would be cool for Kaku…) You know...the Saruta-Hiko mythical figure and stuff.
(Although, yes, I'm aware that Tengu are most often referred to as birds (karasu/crows), not monkeys...but I like the monkey version best - I mean, some stuff I read says the Tengu's ancestor was Saruta-Hiko...and if you've ever seen those Tengu masks with the big nose (not the bird-beak masks), it looks like a proboscis monkey kind of).
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Okay, think: What made Oda design Kaku's nose like that? (I dunno what the answer is).
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to make him look like usopp.
though, I don't think it's a monkey zoan..
why? because it's too obvious ^___^ -
I'm still hoping for a Rabbit Zoan.
Don't mind me, really..
And I agree that a Monkey Zoan would be too obvious… meh, I just don't really like the idea. But whatever Oda does will be wonderful, I'm sure. =)
A paramecia would be cool for Kaku and Kalifa... but its really anyone's guess.
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The actual question is whether or not it wouldn´t a bit to boring (if feel very wrong to use that word in context with One Piece actually) if the top three CP9 guys will all be zoan types.
Lucci elaborated that only zoans increase your speed etc. and I guess that´s why Lucci and Jabura are so big in their zoan form because the combination of Rokushiki and the zoan power boost makes their body mutate to an enormous size. Which means actually if Lucci and Jabura are big because of the Zoan-Rokushiki combination, wouldn´t the same actually happen to Kaku? And wouldn´t it then be really boring if the top three guys are all the same. Or to say it differently, wouldn´t it be boring if the top three Strawhat fighters would take on guys with the same transformation?
Just putting in some food for though, but at the same time I leave it with my standard statement that if somebody can make it awesome then it is Oda. And actually if Kaku would have a primate zoan then this would really be a tough challenge for Oda to have three antagonists with the more or less same power appear completely unique when it gets to fighting abitilies, skills and tactics. Oh well, now I`m all excited to see how it´ll turn out. :steve:
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Well, although I also don't know if it will be a zoan, I'm just saying that if it is a Zoan, I'd like for it to be a proboscus monkey/tengu type creature. Because that way he could keep his long nose in his Zoan form, which would be logical. Any other kind of animal just wouldn't make that much sense in my opinion. I mean…I know that the devil fruit power he gets is unknown (and if this were reality, then it would probably be something totally random that would have nothing to do with how he looks), but I just like when character designs and abilities go with each other. I'm all for "order" like that I guess.
But that's only if it's a Zoan. If not, that's fine with me, as long as it's something cool.
Of course, I was thrown off big time when Lucci's abilities were revealed. Because he dressed as a bull (when he was in disguise)...he had a bird on his shoulder...but somehow he ended up being a cat...so I guess Oda doesn't really work that way. He doesn't do the "orderly" thing I guess....
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I just have a question. What the hell would a Yama Yama no Mi do ? I mean, I'm getting this image of the stone creature from Kirby's Adventure or something, only on a scale of 1:10000000… O_o
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I'd like for it to be a proboscus monkey/tengu type creature. Because that way he could keep his long nose in his Zoan form, which would be logical. Any other kind of animal just wouldn't make that much sense in my opinion.
well look a t chopper: his nose is still blue in all his forms…
I think that the nose would be one of his personal features that would stay there no matter wha he turns into -
I just have a question. What the hell would a Yama Yama no Mi do ? I mean, I'm getting this image of the stone creature from Kirby's Adventure or something, only on a scale of 1:10000000… O_o
I was kind of wondering that myself. Maybe like a strength/defense boost… not to sure. Not like anyone in CP9 really needs that, considering their Rokushiki abilities.
He could become like a Thing-Kaku.
… but that would be terrible.
And I agree with you Ivotas, having another one of the top three CP9 members obtaining another Zoan would be a bit repetitive- but if anyone could, Oda would work it out. Maybe like a uniform sort of thing, being a government organization and all (disregarding Blueno for a moment).
As for other possibilities, I see Logia as being a bit far-fetched, I'm still hoping for a Paramecia for at least one of the two.
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well look a t chopper: his nose is still blue in all his forms…
I think that the nose would be one of his personal features that would stay there no matter wha he turns intoMaybe. But I was talking about in a "design" sense. You know…it wouldn't make sense for him to be, say, a giraffe with his nose looking the same. Going by logic...he ate bananas, he already looks kind of like a monkey...you know.
Anyway, I already typed a whole post about my reasoning, so I won't go into it again.
But, if he's not going to be a proboscis monkey/tengu thing, then I also don't think he will get an ability pertaining to his nickname (the Mountain Wind thing) either...because that would be just as "convenient" (if that's a good way to put it). I wouldn't complain if it happened though...but I dunno.
Kaku's still my favorite CP9 member, so I just hope his ability will be cool
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It's gonna be something totally random and way out there. We all know it, I'm sure, no matter how much any of us want it to be something else. Oda wouldn't have been that obvious with the banana-shaped-DF.
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ok, bear with me cos ive had a few drinks, but what about a healing type fruit where after he takes damage, he just peels away his outside layer and the inside is himself totally healed!
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0_0 No, no, nobody could tell you've had a few drinks. Not at all. Really. Now crack a raw egg in some V8, drink it all, and go lie down. Now.
would like for him to be a proboscis monkey. Because (according to Tezuka's Hino Tori/Phoenix manga anyway), the proboscis monkeys might have inspired the legends about the mythical Tengu goblin (which I think would be cool for Kaku…)
Woah wait a minute…SOMEBODY should have suggested this by now, I feel stupid for not thinking of it before...
Long nose..."wind" in his name..
Why not a Tengu Tengu no Mi? We know they have the same kinds of legends in OP as they do in modern Japan (oni etc) so why not a Tengu fruit?
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Yeah, I was heading in the Tengu direction at first (as soon as the "saru saru" fruit was mentioned, I thought of Saruta-Hiko…and then somebody mentioned the Proboscis monkey, and I thought of a page in Tezuka's Phoenix that has an explanation thing about how the myth of the Tengu was possibly based on early Proboscis monkeys seen by people)...but now I've convinced myself that he will probably have a power unrelated to his appearance.
But I still think it would be neat.
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ok, bear with me cos ive had a few drinks, but what about a healing type fruit where after he takes damage, he just peels away his outside layer and the inside is himself totally healed!
You know, that sounds like a fruit Oda would use… Not only can the user peel himself off, he can peel any kind of matter...
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And he could even peel bananas if he felt like it. So it would be the next best thing to being a monkey.
Edit: changsho, I just noticed that both of our avatars (Skeleton Kaku and Clark) are holding their hats. There's no reason why I'm posting about this observation though. I just thought it was worth everyone's time to point it out.
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Hmm. I really like a Tengu form for Kaku. Minimal physical change, AND he could get wind powers too
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____>; Common… a monkey... you guys look at it to simplistically... it is all a distraction to keep us from guessing the true DF power... he can now turn into a bannana at will. >O
Peeling Power!Haha…jk
I honestly have no idea what it is going to be... maybe something none of us expect. Although a monkey does seem the more obvious guess.
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But that's bordering Logia. When CP9's fruits were revealed, it was obviously supposed to be a reward for their hard work, but people kept theorizing that Spandam/Nami'sTact/Usopp'sStaff/Paulie would eat it. Guess what happened, the most obvious thing happened.
I'm 99% sure it will be a monkey zoan. Whether it be a proboscis monkey or orangutan or gorilla or spider monkey I don't know though.
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Edit: changsho, I just noticed that both of our avatars (Skeleton Kaku and Clark) are holding their hats. There's no reason why I'm posting about this observation though. I just thought it was worth everyone's time to point it out.
Hehe, yeah. That pose is cool. I made my own avatar ^^
DF usually doesn't change appearance, no? The only exception is Alvida, and that fruit beautifies her. It's usually impossible to guess a person's DF from appearance, too.
Except maybe for Enel.
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Alright, I've been thinking about it and here's my new prediction:
Oda is going to fool us all by revealing a fourth kind of devil fruit.
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Let's just all understand that this is within a certain context. That is to say, me being a dreamer.
Now, I'm sure many of you are familiar with the Japanese mythological creature the Tengu. It has been proposed that Tengu were actually based on sightings of Probiscus monkeys.
Secondly, take a look at Kaku's eyelashes. They're similar to Usopp's which are already pretty close to a Tengu's thick eyebrows and/or lashes.
Ok, so this is me just being a wishful thinker but I can see a lot of fun stuff if Kaku 'becomes' a Tengu or rather, looks very close to one.
That's just me thinking logically which really doesn't work too well when applied to Oda's surprises.
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Ok all this Tengu talk just made me post this picture:
Ok, now be honest, in context with this thread who thinks immediately of the two names "Kaku" and "Frankfried" before anything else while looking at that picture? raises hand :laugh:
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Forgot about Tengu. That'd be cool, I guess. But I still don't want him to be stronger than Jabura….
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I'll second that!
Somehow I feel that Jabura deserves to be second strongest…
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Nah, I hope Kaku'll be stronger now (although I wouldn't mind seeing Zoro beat the hell out of a Taopaipai wannabe ).
And btw, I hope Kaku gets logia powers.
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A "wood" logia would be appropriate.. but somehow I think it's gonna be something more wacky. Or atleast Califa should get a really wacky one so she can "screw around" together with Nami in their fight ^^