Drake prolly gained his ephitet AFTER becoming a pirate. He has a lot of intel of the marines so he was specially dangerous for them
His epithet could have a double meaning, since there's a chance he's a marine spy.
Drake prolly gained his ephitet AFTER becoming a pirate. He has a lot of intel of the marines so he was specially dangerous for them
His epithet could have a double meaning, since there's a chance he's a marine spy.
You think Smoker is shoed in for an admiral spot at this point then?
Maybe!
All of the Admirals are animal theme.
Why not add the "hunter"?
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His epithet could have a double meaning, since there's a chance he's a marine spy.
That makes me wonder, why did Kizaru punch a hole into him, is he not informed of Drake's duplicity, or did he go that far to make it convincing? I don't think he's a marine spy, but I can see where you're coming from.
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2 Things Oda is NEVER going to do… (at least before chapter 800 issuing 2-3 breaks later)
- Show Doffy's eyes
- Give news about -Sanji-Swirlyhats-Swirly Brows- or whatever you troll-call them now
Oda is a tease, an evil blood-thirsty tease
I want Scopper Gaban to make an appearance in chapter 800 :ninja:
I want Scopper Gaban to make an appearance in chapter 800 :ninja:
Would be funny if he shows up to save Sanji from Big Mom. The 3rd guy from the old pirate king's crew saves the future 3rd guy from the future pirate king's crew…
That makes me wonder, why did Kizaru punch a hole into him, is he not informed of Drake's duplicity, or did he go that far to make it convincing? I don't think he's a marine spy, but I can see where you're coming from.
Well, he survived Kizaru's attacks, didn't he. Maybe he just went the extra mile to make Drake seem more legit. Or he simply doesn't know.
From Law's flashback, we got to see that using spies is not that uncommon for marines. For me, it would make sense that, between Drake and Kuzan, one is actually a spy. Seeing the wounds Kuzan suffered and hearing about his views, I doubt he's a spy.
Drake, on the other hand, is a lot more convincing, seeing how his father as well turned from a marine to a pirate. He also didn't waste time in NW, went for attracting Kaido's attention straight away. Almost like he's a man on a mission.
@uniaka:
Would be funny if he shows up to save Sanji from Big Mom. The 3rd guy from the old pirate king's crew saves the future 3rd guy in the future pirate king's crew…
Just like the 2nd guy from Roger's Crew saved the 2nd guy from the future PK's Crew (from the 2nd Admiral we have met yet).
But if Sanji had to be saved from BigMom's guys, fans here would whine bout his 2 yrs-Training made no sense at all…
On the other Hand when Vergo broke Sanji's leg: this doesn't mean Sanji is handicapped, but the opposite: if a bone breaks often it heals itself and makes the broken area thicker.
Kickboxers used to do that by kicking trees with their shinbones. Little cracks in the bone made the shinbones thicker.
Other martial artists do the same just with the head until they can break bricks with their forehead.
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Well, he survived Kizaru's attacks, didn't he. Maybe he just went the extra mile to make Drake seem more legit. Or he simply doesn't know.
From Law's flashback, we got to see that using spies is not that uncommon for marines. For me, it would make sense that, between Drake and Kuzan, one is actually a spy. Seeing the wounds Kuzan suffered and hearing about his views, I doubt he's a spy.
Drake, on the other hand, is a lot more convincing, seeing how his father as well turned from a marine to a pirate. He also didn't waste time in NW, went for attracting Kaido's attention straight away. Almost like he's a man on a mission.
Maybe Drake does the same as BB. Join a powerful Crew just to backstab 'em in the right Moment. BB did that for the Yami yami no mi (yomi yomi is Brook's, isn't it?). Drake maybe thought that after WB, Kaidou might be the strongest among the Yonkou. The monologue he had bout the pacifistas @ SA lets me doubt he is still among the marines.
Kuzan on the other Hand infiltrated BB on his own, but not to make him PK. Crews like Luffy's or BB's scare him more than other ones (what he said on LRLL) and he also said he can now do things more freely than in the navy. At least that is what I took away from his dialogue with Smoker @ PH.
Maybe Drake does the same as BB. Join a powerful Crew just to backstab 'em in the right Moment. BB did that for the Yami yami no mi (yomi yomi is Brook's, isn't it?). Drake maybe thought that after WB, Kaidou might be the strongest among the Yonkou. The monologue he had bout the pacifistas @ SA lets me doubt he is still among the marines.
Kuzan on the other Hand infiltrated BB on his own, but not to make him PK. Crews like Luffy's or BB's scare him more than other ones (what he said on LRLL) and he also said he can now do things more freely than in the navy. At least that is what I took away from his dialogue with Smoker @ PH.
Not much of a fan of plot reuse. I just don't get a backstabber vibe from Drake. And that remark about Pacifistas and Vegapunk shows precisely that he's more than just some average commodore that became a pirate.
Why would someone whose father was a pirate that betrayed marines even bother so much to raise his rank if he wasn't serious about it? Can you imagine what he must have went through? His past might have given him a perfect cover.
It's all in the open at the moment.
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- Show Doffy's eyes
- Give news about -Sanji-Swirlyhats-Swirly Brows- or whatever you troll-call them now
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@uniaka:
Would be funny if he shows up to save Sanji from Big Mom. The 3rd guy from the old pirate king's crew saves the future 3rd guy from the future pirate king's crew…
That would be badass, if he also gives Sanji some training to close the gap on the other two that would be much appreciated.
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Well, he survived Kizaru's attacks, didn't he. Maybe he just went the extra mile to make Drake seem more legit. Or he simply doesn't know.
From Law's flashback, we got to see that using spies is not that uncommon for marines. For me, it would make sense that, between Drake and Kuzan, one is actually a spy. Seeing the wounds Kuzan suffered and hearing about his views, I doubt he's a spy.
Drake, on the other hand, is a lot more convincing, seeing how his father as well turned from a marine to a pirate. He also didn't waste time in NW, went for attracting Kaido's attention straight away. Almost like he's a man on a mission.
True, he is also the one guy that seems so out of place as a pirate like what does he ultimately want to achieve? Infiltrating Kaido does seem like something a spy would do and I have a feeling he's going to be heavily involved in the next big arc and will extend the Law and Luffy alliance.
I want both Kuzan and Drake to be double agents, but Kuzan's motivations are also completely his own. He's infiltrating Blackbeard's crew independent of the Marines or any other organization in order to do good, like a vigilante, but I also think he doesn't really know his own endgame. I think he sees his position as an opportunity but doesn't necessarily have a clear idea of what he's going to do with it.
I'm less certain of Drake, but if he is a double agent he probably has clearer orders in the vein of Rocinante.
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Robin reminded me of one of AP's most heinous yet creative abominations:
! Frank aka FFotSDMDBeB: First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.
2 Things Oda is NEVER going to do… (at least before chapter 800 issuing 2-3 breaks later)
- Show Doffy's eyes
- Give news about -Sanji-Swirlyhats-Swirly Brows- or whatever you troll-call them now
Oda is a tease, an evil blood-thirsty tease
I think we'lll get a recap on the Swirlyhats at around 797.
If the third guy saves Sanji after knowing the second guy saved Zoro
Then that means Luffy gets saved later by….
Robin reminded me of one of AP's most heinous yet creative abominations:
I hope we see Robin doing something like that in Wano, perhaps with knives on a stealth mission.
I hope we see Robin doing something like that in Wano, perhaps with knives on a stealth mission.
Back to her assassin roots eh?
Even though she wasn't much of an assassin anyways.
She definetely became an urban mystery in all the Blues. The messenger of sudden backpain, triggered by thougths of trying to backstab young girls and women.
I hope we see Robin doing something like that in Wano, perhaps with knives on a stealth mission.
Yeah, I hope so too. Robin with Busoushoku would be unstoppable. But I'd really be content with her telling the crew about what went on with the Revos, Dragon and Kuma.
Even though she wasn't much of an assassin anyways.
That's what she wants you to think.
I'd really be content with her telling the crew about what went on with the Revos, Dragon and Kuma.
Same here, I think we'll get that eventually.
the first thing we will see of sanji's group, is a bloody scene where all of them are defeated, tied up and injured. probably a double page.
On the other Hand when Vergo broke Sanji's leg: this doesn't mean Sanji is handicapped, but the opposite: if a bone breaks often it heals itself and makes the broken area thicker.
Kickboxers used to do that by kicking trees with their shinbones. Little cracks in the bone made the shinbones thicker.Other martial artists do the same just with the head until they can break bricks with their forehead.
It normally doesn't heal that well in less than 2 days which is the time from Sanji's fight with Vergo to when he sighted Big Mom's ship.
the first thing we will see of sanji's group, is a bloody scene where all of them are defeated, tied up and injured. probably a double page.
Sorry, no. The only defeated thing you will see is a egg and a turtle.
Cp0 manages to get custody of donxiote family. Blackbeard crew ambush, burgess get a fruit worthy of a titan. Same hair colour and pattern, same build…. also its almost tea party...moon out, day four. heheehe. Jimbei how ever might not get the news of what sanji did to egg and turtle so if he want to leave big Mom what are the chances of getting hurt as big mom might not be too happy and jimbei is poster boy of responsibility? The only reason this might not go this way is cause of the samurai, their story might be more immediate and it heavily implied Kaido is involved. Well, im hoping both of these yonko are taken on, hit and evade, till luffy is confident he can beat them. I hope the story in Wano is more original in regard to royalty. Doffy ended up a douche to his idiot dressorosians. Will the strawhat ever beat or dethrone a monarch thats good to it people and loved by its people through and through.
More so how will future victims be presented, we already have the samurai but.......
Cp0 manages to get custody of donxiote family. Blackbeard crew ambush, burgess get a fruit worthy of a titan. Same hair colour and pattern, same build…. also its almost tea party...moon out, day four. heheehe. Jimbei how ever might not get the news of what sanji did to egg and turtle so if he want to leave big Mom what are the chances of getting hurt as big mom might not be too happy and jimbei is poster boy of responsibility? The only reason this might not go this way is cause of the samurai, their story might be more immediate and it heavily implied Kaido is involved. Well, im hoping both of these yonko are taken on, hit and evade, till luffy is confident he can beat them. I hope the story in Wano is more original in regard to royalty. Doffy ended up a douche to his idiot dressorosians. Will the strawhat ever beat or dethrone a monarch thats good to it people and loved by its people through and through.
More so how will future victims be presented, we already have the samurai but.......
CP0 are after the revolutionaries and Strawhats, specifically Nico Robin of course.
Knowing that Big Mom is on the move, there is a high chance that Kaido will go in and intercept Big Moms ship.
Remember Kaido trying to kill Whitebeard when he was going towards the war? Kaido seems to take advantage of these situations and I hope he does.
CP0 are after the revolutionaries and Strawhats, specifically Nico Robin of course.
Knowing that Big Mom is on the move, there is a high chance that Kaido will go in and intercept Big Moms ship.
Remember Kaido trying to kill Whitebeard when he was going towards the war? Kaido seems to take advantage of these situations and I hope he does.
but the revolutionaries seem keen on leaving. Big mom is not on the move yet…. i mean despite what sanji did to egg and turtle would she move when her precious tea party is supposed to take place? What would kaido have goten from killing whitebeard, was that shiki style of let me be the one to kill him cause of respect, or what? He is already famous, and powerful, what is the benefit? According to Law all the big names have been quiet for two years so i don't see the benefit. Unless it was just speculation and there is more to this story..... the one the navy mentioned about he whitbeard and skanks.... wait what if whitebeard was not the reason for his movement but Ace? It should not have been news that whitebeard was old.... only thing that changed about that dynamic was Ace's bloodline...... so it could have beeen a separate player from whitebeard but involved him any way..... that begs the question why did shanks intervene, is Kaido that vocal about his target and intentions, was there some history, does skanks know something we don't know about that war and its players. what i do think is drake symbol with that upsside down navy symbol is imo indicative of his feeling towards the navy, how does Kaido feel toward the navy? Blackbeard wants to be the big boss, pirate king his search for power is understandable. But the powerful yonko, Hundred beast Kaido want to strenghen, when there are hardly people who could play ball on his court two years ago, why power up, there should be reason. What ever his relationship with Wano its hostile, the words Kinemon spoke about pirates was not they are cool, it was disgust, slight terror. The reaction at kaido's name... interesting. You know i wonder how women of Wano willreact to sanji?
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Dude you have sooo many questions, also from another post.. I will do my best to give my thoughts!
but the revolutionaries seem keen on leaving.
That is because the revolutionaries have gotten intel on the matter, not only that, Nico Robin is on the same island as they have discovered. I do wonder if CP0 are after Doflamingo, my opinion, probably not. I mean, if people are telling me that they couldn't have had CP0 conduct an assassin mission on Doflamingo all this time, then that would be BS. Why not send all three Admirals on Doflamingo whilst he's sleeping? He must have someone else that has this information he has that can "shake the world".
Big mom is not on the move yet…. i mean despite what sanji did to egg and turtle would she move when her precious tea party is supposed to take place?
She's got a massive ship with her commanders on it. Whether big Mom is on it or not, that is another question. But one of Big Moms ships are wide open for attack, I can say that.
What did Sanji do to egg and turtle? We haven't seen anything.
What would kaido have goten from killing whitebeard
The emperors fight against each other all the time? By killing one they would gain more territory?
was that shiki style of let me be the one to kill him cause of respect, or what?
Probably not.
He is already famous, and powerful, what is the benefit?
Blackbeard is already famous and powerful. What does he want?
According to Law all the big names have been quiet for two years so i don't see the benefit.
They've been quiet, but they have all been building up themselves like Doflamingo with his business and Kaido with his smile users.
wait what if whitebeard was not the reason for his movement but Ace? It should not have been news that whitebeard was old…. only thing that changed about that dynamic was Ace's bloodline...... so it could have beeen a separate player from whitebeard but involved him any way.....
Aces bloodline wasn't announced until the war. Kaido was already on the move. Unless Kaido already knew. But i doubt he had anything to do with Ace.
that begs the question why did shanks intervene,
Shanks actually cared about Ace and was a brother to Luffy. Shanks even went to see Whitebeard himself to tell him to stop Ace from pursuing blackbeard as it would lead to what just happened in the story. Shanks stopped Kaido from intervening Whitebeards rescue mission. That's what it looks like now.
The whole WG and Marines were shitting themselves of the emperors going together.
is Kaido that vocal about his target and intentions,
He probably is, but I am waiting to see what his true intentions are. Whitebeard didn't want to be the pirate king, Shanks doesn't seem like it.. Kaido maybe.
Hundred beast Kaido want to strenghen, when there are hardly people who could play ball on his court two years ago, why power up, there should be reason.
As Law said, "it's like you're all waiting for something to happen".
So, I'm back, good to see APforums is still the same.
Reading 4 chapters Simultaneously was way too juicy, all this hype is giving me diabetes I better come back tomorrow.
"Even the largest waves, capable of destroying cities, begin as no more than small ripples, unknown to all"
Dressrosa had such a powerful beginning. Time to marathon it.
I wish the next nakama thread was still open because I'm not going to lie, right now at the very last minute I'm starting to support the idea of Rebecca as a nakama. Despite her hated status, the more and more I thought it over, the more I came to support it. Mind you I JUST started thinking about this stuff and it all culminated in an epiphany just now…
Not going to kickstart a debate though. This isn't the place for it. But I will just mention my epiphany, the bronze statue and a "beautiful female swordsman carrying meat" were foreshadowed long before this arc. If nothing else is certain, we know Luffy wants (and will most likely get) a statue eventually and he's keen on the Kyros one right now. I used to think Kyros was the dealbreaker for her but a statue of him makes for a pretty good motivator. Just some crazy thoughts. Also, Luffy sure does love dressing up as a gladiator. =P
I know it's unlikely and a bit irrelevant but on the off chance it happens then I'm totes calling this shit.~
@Jazzy:
I wish the next nakama thread was still open because I'm not going to lie, right now at the very last minute I'm starting to support the idea of Rebecca as a nakama. Despite her hated status, the more and more I thought it over, the more I came to support it. Mind you I JUST started thinking about this stuff and it all culminated in an epiphany just now…
Not going to kickstart a debate though. This isn't the place for it. But I will just mention my epiphany, the bronze statue and a "beautiful female swordsman carrying meat" were foreshadowed long before this arc. If nothing else is certain, we know Luffy wants (and will most likely get) a statue eventually and he's keen on the Kyros one right now. I used to think Kyros was the dealbreaker for her but a statue of him makes for a pretty good motivator. Just some crazy thoughts. Also, Luffy sure does love dressing up as a gladiator. =P
I know it's unlikely and a bit irrelevant but on the off chance it happens then I'm totes calling this shit.~
Alternative: Luffy steals the statue and tries to make it his new nakama.
So, I'm back, good to see APforums is still the same.
Reading 4 chapters Simultaneously was way too juicy, all this hype is giving me diabetes I better come back tomorrow.
Don't come back. There's no chapter.
But do come for discussion!
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Alternative: Luffy steals the statue and tries to make it his new nakama.
It probably has a higher chance than Rebecca.
Hm, not that i thinks she'll be a nakama..but i think violet will accompany luffy till he is reunited with Sanji.
She is clearly not really welcomed by the population of dressrossa (or at least she thinks so),
her sight ability is OP..(coupled with usopp even more)
and she could be useful to found out what happened to Sanji & co.
Besides i think she'd want to be reunited with him even if it is temporary.
@suburbanerrorist: never seen you're sig-pic before. It blew my mind. You don't think they REALLY may be related?
Oh shiii
Shanks is Kidd's long lost father. That's why Kidd targeted Shanks, it all makes sense now:ninja:
Oh shiii
Shanks is Kidd's long lost father. That's why Kidd targeted Shanks, it all makes sense now:ninja:
Brothers in arms more like it. Shanks is not that old to have a 25-ish years old kid, the guy is only 39.
Hm, not that i thinks she'll be a nakama..but i think violet will accompany luffy till he is reunited with Sanji.
She is clearly not really welcomed by the population of dressrossa (or at least she thinks so),
her sight ability is OP..(coupled with usopp even more)
and she could be useful to found out what happened to Sanji & co.
Besides i think she'd want to be reunited with him even if it is temporary.
Where exactly does it show she think she's not welcome? So far none of the civilians that saw her treated her with any less respect that they have for King Riku.
Shanks, Kidd, Zoro, Rayleigh, Sabo, just to name a few. Can't be cool unless you've got a scar over your eye these days
Where exactly does it show she think she's not welcome? So far none of the civilians that saw her treated her with any less respect that they have for King Riku.
Besides, even if she wouldn't be welcome, this is nothing a little speech of Riku couldn't easily deal with.
@uniaka:
Brothers in arms more like it. Shanks is not that old to have a 25-ish years old kid, the guy is only 39.
Kidd is actually 23 years old.
If the third guy saves Sanji after knowing the second guy saved Zoro
Then that means Luffy gets saved later by….
a headless Roger :ninja:
I hope there's a Poneglyph here in Dressrosa somewhere otherwise Robin would've been better off with the other half of the crew.
Who's still in the 'Burgess will leave Dressrosa with a DF' bandwagon? I still see that, and whatever he did all that time in tghe palace searching likely is related to it.
Also, since marines are after the pirates now, Burgess looks defeat, it's likely that Aokiji could show up to save him, since he was at PH, he can likely show up in thi s country too. Burgess said he doesn't trust him and this could gain him his trust.
Also, Aokiji's clash with Fujitora would be great, could also give luffy and co time to get away.
isnt there still the problem that half of dressrosas citizens are simply assholes ? Just look at their behavior at the colloseum and especially towards rikus granddaughter…. thats something which should be addressed
"Even the largest waves, capable of destroying cities, begin as no more than small ripples, unknown to all"
Dressrosa had such a powerful beginning. Time to marathon it.
The sexism in your avatar
isnt there still the problem that half of dressrosas citizens are simply assholes ? Just look at their behavior at the colloseum and especially towards rikus granddaughter…. thats something which should be addressed
Meh, that'll just be the classic fiction "We're all sorry, please forgive us." routine.
Hm, not that i thinks she'll be a nakama..but i think violet will accompany luffy till he is reunited with Sanji.
She is clearly not really welcomed by the population of dressrossa (or at least she thinks so),
her sight ability is OP..(coupled with usopp even more)
and she could be useful to found out what happened to Sanji & co.
Besides i think she'd want to be reunited with him even if it is temporary.
I agree. I think Violet will offer her help to find the rest of the Straw hats. Otherwise there's no way of knowing where they are exactly, unless Luffy receives a message that they were kidnapped or something.
isnt there still the problem that half of dressrosas citizens are simply assholes ? Just look at their behavior at the colloseum and especially towards rikus granddaughter…. thats something which should be addressed
Their excuse is being hoodwinked by Doflamingo. It's implied that he changed the culture of Dressrosa to something more shallow and perverse, and that the return of their full memories and the following Birdcage trauma purged them of Doflamingo's culture and returned their peaceful desires.
The best example is the coloseum. Under the rule of the Rikus, the coloseum was used as a place to celebrate people's martial talent and, in some cases, a means of public service and discipline to criminals. It was fairly easy for Doflamingo to remove the no-bloodletting rule and shift the focus to death, pain, and savagery. The idea is that this was more entertaining and appealed to the audience's baser instincts, thereby distracting them from whatever else was wrong or unfulfilling about the country. It was basically an opiate of the people.
You bring up a good point about the citizens as a group. One of the pet peeve's about One Piece I have is that Oda frequently portrays large groups of people as of a single, easily-swayed mindset. You could ask, "what do the people think?" and often answer with an incredibly simple single answer representing everyone. It basically feels like large faceless groups become a single character in terms of actions and emotions. This portrayal has seemed more egregious in this arc and in general post-Timeskip, which coincides with Oda's increased focus on making Luffy a hero of the people.
isnt there still the problem that half of dressrosas citizens are simply assholes ? Just look at their behavior at the colloseum and especially towards rikus granddaughter…. thats something which should be addressed
No, it really doesn't. Doula Mongo incentived that kind of behavior by changing the rules of the Colosseum, manipulating the people and erasing the rebels. With people remembering stuff and suffering from the Birdcage, they probably have grown out of that.
You bring up a good point about the citizens as a group. One of the pet peeve's about One Piece I have is that Oda frequently portrays large groups of people as of a single, easily-swayed mindset. You could ask, "what do the people think?" and often answer with an incredibly simple single answer representing everyone. It basically feels like large faceless groups become a single character in terms of actions and emotions. This portrayal has seemed more egregious in this arc and in general post-Timeskip, which coincides with Oda's increased focus on making Luffy a hero of the people.
What, you never heard of mob mentality?
That's because those large groups of people tend to be found within situations where there's really no better alternative.
If a giant ship is about to fall and destroy you, your friends and your homeland, it is hard to not root for the guy that is trying to stop it.
Dressrosa also justifies this as having the people who are not as easily-swayed erased and forgotten.
The sexism in your avatar
Oh come on, she gets her own back in my signature, it evens it out :)
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Shanks, Kidd, Zoro, Rayleigh, Sabo, just to name a few. Can't be cool unless you've got a scar over your eye these days
What about my man Fujitora, I think Akainu has one now too lool
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You bring up a good point about the citizens as a group. One of the pet peeve's about One Piece I have is that Oda frequently portrays large groups of people as of a single, easily-swayed mindset. You could ask, "what do the people think?" and often answer with an incredibly simple single answer representing everyone. It basically feels like large faceless groups become a single character in terms of actions and emotions. This portrayal has seemed more egregious in this arc and in general post-Timeskip, which coincides with Oda's increased focus on making Luffy a hero of the people.
Oda's portrayal of nameless people in general is this way you're right, they seem to become one unified front/entity but it's also the harsh reality that exists in real life where the majority are easily swayed by what information is fed to them by news reports/media. Look at all those halfwits that were cheering that Whitebeard died and they thought it was a huge win for them in the sense that the "fearsome" Whitebeard could no longer harm them. It had only the opposite effect, pirates (especially the trashy kind like Brownbeard) started rioting. Point is people are very fickle and tend to roll with the punches. If they believe that a certain body are the most powerful they will take their word as to what is good and what is bad to be the law that governs the world. Similar to what my man Doffy said in Marineford. Whoever is the winner will decide what is good and what is bad, because they can simply rule over others with an iron hammer and keep them in check. I'm not saying the issue is wholly representitive of what it's actually like in real life, but a lot of themes in One Piece are a caricature of life/history so yes it is exaggerated because you would think every individual in a crowd would be somewhat different to the other but it's not so unbelievable that I'd call it a recurring issue that needs to be addressed.
No, it really doesn't. Doula Mongo incentived that kind of behavior by changing the rules of the Colosseum, manipulating the people and erasing the rebels. With people remembering stuff and suffering from the Birdcage, they probably have grown out of that.
is that any justification thou? From a literature point of view, this is symbolic of two different, regimes, two different rulers: Doflamingo and Riku Dold 3. However the only people who can make that claim or have that claim made about them as far as Doflamingo incentives are concerned, belong to the gladiators as we even see how he personally treated them for not shedding blood. But how does that clear the wider population? With Bartolomeo we see selfishness, with the fake bomb, how does Doffy fit into that equation? We see how they enjoyed it, despite pretentiously covering their eye when blood flashes. The only part Doffy had was making it law and norm in their society. They consciously made individual choices of spectating that part was not an obligation. Even with Kyros, who they came off initially as being disgusted at, comes to love the action, blood or no blood. Riku dold and family might be the only true pacifist people on dressorosa from my Pov.
@Jazzy:
I know it's unlikely and a bit irrelevant but on the off chance it happens then I'm totes calling this shit.~
Not trying to argue or debate but it begs the question, if Rebecca isn't the Vivi of this arc (the character that becomes nakama but doesn't journey with them) then who is?
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is that any justification thou? From a literature point of view, this is symbolic of two different, regimes, two different rulers: Doflamingo and Riku Dold 3. However the only people who can make that claim or have that claim made about them as far as Doflamingo incentives are concerned, belong to the gladiators as we even see how he personally treated them for not shedding blood. But how does that clear the wider population? With Bartolomeo we see selfishness, with the fake bomb, how does Doffy fit into that equation? We see how they enjoyed it, despite pretentiously covering their eye when blood flashes. The only part Doffy had was making it law and norm in their society. They consciously made individual choices of spectating that part was not an obligation. Even with Kyros, who they came off initially as being disgusted at, comes to love the action, blood or no blood. Riku dold and family might be the only true pacifist people on dressorosa from my Pov.
Are you guys discussing the enjoyment expressed by the viewers of the coloseum fights during this arc? People of Dressrosa were enjoying the coloseum fights long before Doffy invaded, it's a form of entertainment for them.