having a defensive form is nice, but he needs offense right now. He might need defense against Kaido tho
Gear 4th
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His defense is being made of rubber and armament haki which he will likely eventually be able to coat his whole body in it the main purpose of the Gears is too power up his speed and attack I dont see how going purely defensive helps him beat Doffy
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Meh. That would still just make it a glorified fodder nuker in comparison.
Im intrigued by the idea that Gear 4 could be a defensive form. It being muscle enchancer wouldn't be such a bad thing on that case.
Luffy seems to be attracted to walls and the floor in the fight against Doflamingo.
It might be an "all round" up in power but might be more on a defensive level too.
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His defense is being made of rubber and armament haki which he will likely eventually be able to coat his whole body in it the main purpose of the Gears is too power up his speed and attack I dont see how going purely defensive helps him beat Doffy
I never said it would purely be defensive. He can't be "pure strength", he's gotta have some defensive attributes to him at least.
It's gonna be an "all round" gear IMO
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My idea for Gear 4 is Luffy having Shapeswifting powers like Plasticman or Mr.Fantastic
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so, as you can see it looks like luffy is biting his arm; but why that spot?
as you can see in the other picture, their is a major artery right in the place where luffy's mouth is.
THE THEORY: as you might already know, luffy bases all his techniques on things he's encountered; including his gears, G2(puffing tom), G3(giants of Elbaf)
, so how would luffy base his new gear on burgess? well i will put it in a few steps
so why wouldn't G4 follow the same formula? imo G4 is based on Jesus Burgess and his fighting style- use G2
- blow air into the radial artery expanding blood cells
- use CoC to compress those blood cells, if they weren't compressed luffy would be as big as a giant
- uses red hawk on himself(without CoA)
- at this point his compressed body cells have been destributed all throughout his body; since each of those cells have enough oxygen to create giant luffy, the oxygen would be expanding because of the heat and luffy would grow rapidly; rubber however reacts to heat differently and instead of expanding, rubber compresses. Basically at this point luffy is about to explode
- due to his body compressing while his air expands, he begins to bleed(externally and internally)
- when the blood hits the surface of his body, it explodes; this vulcanizes luffy completely
- due to his blood compressing and cauterizing and vulcanizing at the same time; luffy gains a blood armor
- all the cells in his body would be vulcanized at this point, that being said; he no longer needs to use CoC to surpress his blood cells from bursting, since vulcanization does that for him
- luffy uses life return to focus all his blood to his muscles
- the sudden rush of air, makes luffy's muscles expand and grow at the same time making him almost like nightmare luffy
- with all his muscles(organs are muscles as well) being strengthened, luffy can now increase his G2 blood pumps to a max of 4 times his original count
- once he dose this, his lungs are so powerful that they will always create the compressed blood cells i mentioned earlier
- luffy then focuses all his blood to his muscles again, untill his blood pressure is insanely high in his arm
- but instead of releasing all the air into his muscles, luffy pumps the blood directly into his bones; as then luffy releases the oxygen from his blood and sends his blood back to his lungs
- due to his blood armor+vulcanized+increased muscle arm he can withstand the pressure surging through his arm
- before i get to the last step, i want to backtrack a bit; back when he began to bleed due to the pressure, his blood made whole in certain parts of his body. When luffy uses this techniques power, he will the air will escape his body through those wholes
- finally the air escapes from holes on luffy's fist, this attack will do massive damage to anyone in the way. imo, this technique had the ability to destroy half of the noah in a single motion, this technique imo will be called gomu gomu no blast
the technique i mentioned above isn't luffy's base pistol attack, luffy's standard attacks will be the same as usual; however they will have the word blast in front of them. luffy can't stretch much in this state, but doing so will greatly increase his power. The combined hardness of his blood armor+vulcanized muscles will be hard enough that swords will do little to no damage(unless used with haki OFC). This gear has major drawbacks, luffy only used it once when he was training and it took him 5 months to recover(it won't take that long this time due to mansherry).
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Looks interesting the only point which is weird is the ' 4 ' " use red hawk on himself " ? How would he do that ?? Otherwise looks like a good theory.
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Looks interesting the only point which is weird is the ' 4 ' " use red hawk on himself " ? How would he do that ?? Otherwise looks like a good theory.
He can do it in 2 possible ways A. He can simply punch himself with red hawk B. He stretches his feet while keeping them on the ground and elongate his neck and torso while in G2; then when he reverts to his original form his whole body would be flaming
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http://i998.mangapanda.com/one-piece/783/one-piece-5602295.jpg
Before i read this i must say.
Can you please have a somewhat sensored body. I don't need people behind me at work thinking im into interesting things
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@DHL:
Before i read this i must say.
Can you please have a somewhat sensored body. I don't need people behind me at work thinking im into interesting things
sorry, I'll change it ASAP; but all it is a diagram of arteries in the body
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http://i998.mangapanda.com/one-piece/783/one-piece-5602295.jpg
luffy only used it once when he was training and it took him 5 months to recover(it won't take that long this time due to mansherry).
While this theory was interesting as hell compared to the Gear 2 + Gear 3 rubbish, the one thing i don't like is the "recovery".
Luffy would not have spent 5 months recovering from a gear 4 experiment when he should have spent those 6 months training his Devil fruit powers and his own strength.
Their could/would be a drawback on gear 4. However I really don't see how it's going to be in a dramatic way where Luffy would need to recover like crazy. I doubt that Gear 4 is gonna be a "one time" thing because Mansherry isn't going to be around everywhere + Luffy would really need to use this technique against Top Tier characters such as YONKOU. Luffy has not got time to be "resting/healing" for the half a year. Just look at how much has happened in the new world and it's not even a week.
I commend you for your thought into this. Although;
How far in technicalities will Oda go? Is another question.
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sorry, I'll change it ASAP; but all it is a diagram of arteries in the body
Wow that's a lot better.
No harm done (i think:ninja:)
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@DHL:
While this theory was interesting as hell compared to the Gear 2 + Gear 3 rubbish, the one thing i don't like is the "recovery".
Luffy would not have spent 5 months recovering from a gear 4 experiment when he should have spent those 6 months training his Devil fruit powers and his own strength.
Their could/would be a drawback on gear 4. However I really don't see how it's going to be in a dramatic way where Luffy would need to recover like crazy. I doubt that Gear 4 is gonna be a "one time" thing because Mansherry isn't going to be around everywhere + Luffy would really need to use this technique against Top Tier characters such as YONKOU. Luffy has not got time to be "resting/healing" for the half a year. Just look at how much has happened in the new world and it's not even a week.
I commend you for your thought into this. Although;
How far in technicalities will Oda go? Is another question.
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Wow that's a lot better.
No harm done (i think:ninja:)
yeah I might have exaggerated the recovery time; but i only did that since imo luffy won't need gear 5 to defeat kaido meaning all he needs is gears 2-4. Therefore if he had already mastered G4, he would already be about yonko level, either way I believe that the recovery time would be at least 1 week if not longer and throughout wano and the kaido war arc luffy will be trying to figure out how to use G4 without reprocussions
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yeah I might have exaggerated the recovery time; but i only did that since imo luffy won't need gear 5 to defeat kaido meaning all he needs is gears 2-4. Therefore if he had already mastered G4, he would already be about yonko level, either way I believe that the recovery time would be at least 1 week if not longer and throughout wano and the kaido war arc luffy will be trying to figure out how to use G4 without reprocussions
Don't jump too far there. That's assuming Luffy would be at Whitebeards level.
We'll say Doflamingo level, because Doflamingo is on his own level very very close to an Admiral.
We really don't know what this is or what it's power is yet. So judging Luffys power for the upcoming new world will be something to talk about after this fight and usage of Gear 4.
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[qimg]http://i998.mangapanda.com/one-piece/783/one-piece-5602295.jpg[/qimg]
so, as you can see it looks like luffy is biting his arm; but why that spot?
as you can see in the other picture, their is a major artery right in the place where luffy's mouth is. [qimg]http://antranik.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/arteries-of-the-upper-limb-and-thorax.jpg[/qimg]THE THEORY: as you might already know, luffy bases all his techniques on things he's encountered; including his gears, G2(puffing tom), G3(giants of Elbaf)
, so how would luffy base his new gear on burgess? well i will put it in a few steps
so why wouldn't G4 follow the same formula? imo G4 is based on Jesus Burgess and his fighting style- use G2
- blow air into the radial artery expanding blood cells
- use CoC to compress those blood cells, if they weren't compressed luffy would be as big as a giant
- uses red hawk on himself(without CoA)
- at this point his compressed body cells have been destributed all throughout his body; since each of those cells have enough oxygen to create giant luffy, the oxygen would be expanding because of the heat and luffy would grow rapidly; rubber however reacts to heat differently and instead of expanding, rubber compresses. Basically at this point luffy is about to explode
- due to his body compressing while his air expands, he begins to bleed(externally and internally)
- when the blood hits the surface of his body, it explodes; this vulcanizes luffy completely
- due to his blood compressing and cauterizing and vulcanizing at the same time; luffy gains a blood armor
- all the cells in his body would be vulcanized at this point, that being said; he no longer needs to use CoC to surpress his blood cells from bursting, since vulcanization does that for him
- luffy uses life return to focus all his blood to his muscles
- the sudden rush of air, makes luffy's muscles expand and grow at the same time making him almost like nightmare luffy
- with all his muscles(organs are muscles as well) being strengthened, luffy can now increase his G2 blood pumps to a max of 4 times his original count
- once he dose this, his lungs are so powerful that they will always create the compressed blood cells i mentioned earlier
- luffy then focuses all his blood to his muscles again, untill his blood pressure is insanely high in his arm
- but instead of releasing all the air into his muscles, luffy pumps the blood directly into his bones; as then luffy releases the oxygen from his blood and sends his blood back to his lungs
- due to his blood armor+vulcanized+increased muscle arm he can withstand the pressure surging through his arm
- before i get to the last step, i want to backtrack a bit; back when he began to bleed due to the pressure, his blood made whole in certain parts of his body. When luffy uses this techniques power, he will the air will escape his body through those wholes
- finally the air escapes from holes on luffy's fist, this attack will do massive damage to anyone in the way. imo, this technique had the ability to destroy half of the noah in a single motion, this technique imo will be called gomu gomu no blast
the technique i mentioned above isn't luffy's base pistol attack, luffy's standard attacks will be the same as usual; however they will have the word blast in front of them. luffy can't stretch much in this state, but doing so will greatly increase his power. The combined hardness of his blood armor+vulcanized muscles will be hard enough that swords will do little to no damage(unless used with haki OFC). This gear has major drawbacks, luffy only used it once when he was training and it took him 5 months to recover(it won't take that long this time due to mansherry).
He is going to need a checklist
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[qimg]http://i998.mangapanda.com/one-piece/783/one-piece-5602295.jpg[/qimg]
so, as you can see it looks like luffy is biting his arm; but why that spot?
as you can see in the other picture, their is a major artery right in the place where luffy's mouth is. [qimg]http://antranik.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/arteries-of-the-upper-limb-and-thorax.jpg[/qimg]THE THEORY: as you might already know, luffy bases all his techniques on things he's encountered; including his gears, G2(puffing tom), G3(giants of Elbaf)
, so how would luffy base his new gear on burgess? well i will put it in a few steps
so why wouldn't G4 follow the same formula? imo G4 is based on Jesus Burgess and his fighting style- use G2
- blow air into the radial artery expanding blood cells
- use CoC to compress those blood cells, if they weren't compressed luffy would be as big as a giant
- uses red hawk on himself(without CoA)
- at this point his compressed body cells have been destributed all throughout his body; since each of those cells have enough oxygen to create giant luffy, the oxygen would be expanding because of the heat and luffy would grow rapidly; rubber however reacts to heat differently and instead of expanding, rubber compresses. Basically at this point luffy is about to explode
- due to his body compressing while his air expands, he begins to bleed(externally and internally)
- when the blood hits the surface of his body, it explodes; this vulcanizes luffy completely
- due to his blood compressing and cauterizing and vulcanizing at the same time; luffy gains a blood armor
- all the cells in his body would be vulcanized at this point, that being said; he no longer needs to use CoC to surpress his blood cells from bursting, since vulcanization does that for him
- luffy uses life return to focus all his blood to his muscles
- the sudden rush of air, makes luffy's muscles expand and grow at the same time making him almost like nightmare luffy
- with all his muscles(organs are muscles as well) being strengthened, luffy can now increase his G2 blood pumps to a max of 4 times his original count
- once he dose this, his lungs are so powerful that they will always create the compressed blood cells i mentioned earlier
- luffy then focuses all his blood to his muscles again, untill his blood pressure is insanely high in his arm
- but instead of releasing all the air into his muscles, luffy pumps the blood directly into his bones; as then luffy releases the oxygen from his blood and sends his blood back to his lungs
- due to his blood armor+vulcanized+increased muscle arm he can withstand the pressure surging through his arm
- before i get to the last step, i want to backtrack a bit; back when he began to bleed due to the pressure, his blood made whole in certain parts of his body. When luffy uses this techniques power, he will the air will escape his body through those wholes
- finally the air escapes from holes on luffy's fist, this attack will do massive damage to anyone in the way. imo, this technique had the ability to destroy half of the noah in a single motion, this technique imo will be called gomu gomu no blast
the technique i mentioned above isn't luffy's base pistol attack, luffy's standard attacks will be the same as usual; however they will have the word blast in front of them. luffy can't stretch much in this state, but doing so will greatly increase his power. The combined hardness of his blood armor+vulcanized muscles will be hard enough that swords will do little to no damage(unless used with haki OFC). This gear has major drawbacks, luffy only used it once when he was training and it took him 5 months to recover(it won't take that long this time due to mansherry).
This sounds to complex, how long would Luffy take to do all this??
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This sounds to complex, how long would Luffy take to do all this??
10 chapters of pre hype/build up before he unleashes that attack 18 damn steps
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10 chapters of pre hype/build up before he unleashes that attack 18 damn steps
nah just 1 chapter to explain it all; most the steps will happen simultaneously, I just broke it into 18 steps so I cou explain it better
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Whatever Gear 4th is it is most likely incredibly destructive. Luffy seems to be hinting that the entire area is going to be destroyed.
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This sounds to complex, how long would Luffy take to do all this??
Most steps happen simultaneously, in reality their are probably like 3 steps; I just broke it down into 18 so u could understand it better
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Gear 4 will be like Zombie Luffy… so he is gonna be bigger and badder!
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Whatever Gear 4th is it is most likely incredibly destructive. Luffy seems to be hinting that the entire area is going to be destroyed.
One thing I am sure of. Gear 4 is not for large scale damage. That would completely ruin Gear3.
Perhaps it's a precaution because the fight is going to get real dangerous now. Or he might even get a power where he is not adept at controlling his actions ala Gomu Gomu no Baka. -
One thing I am sure of. Gear 4 is not for large scale damage. That would completely ruin Gear3.
Perhaps it's a precaution because the fight is going to get real dangerous now. Or he might even get a power where he is not adept at controlling his actions ala Gomu Gomu no Baka.This sounds good, kind of like chopper's monster point before the time skip.
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One thing I am sure of. Gear 4 is not for large scale damage. That would completely ruin Gear3.
Perhaps it's a precaution because the fight is going to get real dangerous now. Or he might even get a power where he is not adept at controlling his actions ala Gomu Gomu no Baka.I don't think it's going to be "dangerous". But what the hell would i know.
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Whatever Gear 4th is it is most likely incredibly destructive. Luffy seems to be hinting that the entire area is going to be destroyed.
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I was thinking the same, it is just perfect that Cabbage stays wih Law, if Luffy goes berserk then Cabbage can just use Hakuba's speed to get the hell away along with Law, the only problems are Koala and musterious guy. -
@DHL:
I don't think it's going to be "dangerous". But what the hell would i know.
Dangerous in the sense that collateral damage from Gear 4 moves could be high. Thus, risking the lives of Bystanders.
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Dangerous in the sense that collateral damage from Gear 4 moves could be high. Thus, risking the lives of Bystanders.
I don't know about that, but I guess it's not like it can't be considered.
Maybe gear 4 would actually make Doflamingo use his devil fruit more.
Doflamingo has been playing with Luffy. Doflamingo was expected to spam his devil fruit, instead he's been pretty much outclassing Luffy with what Luffy does best with, just kicks, punches and blocks.
I hope we see a crap ton more moves from Doffy. I think that's what will put Luffys gear 4 to the test.
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@DHL:
I don't know about that, but I guess it's not like it can't be considered.
Maybe gear 4 would actually make Doflamingo use his devil fruit more.
Doflamingo has been playing with Luffy. Doflamingo was expected to spam his devil fruit, instead he's been pretty much outclassing Luffy with what Luffy does best with, just kicks, punches and blocks.
I hope we see a crap ton more moves from Doffy. I think that's what will put Luffys gear 4 to the test.
Yeah, Many are waiting for Doffy's counter to Gear 4 more than Gear 4 itself.
It has been long time since Luffy was outclassed in Brute Force. -
Would be funny if after all these complicated speculations it would just be some funny stuff like the gomugomu octopus he used against Enel
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Would be funny if after all these complicated speculations it would just be some funny stuff like the gomugomu octopus he used against Enel
Luffy used Octopus stamp against Doflamingo already
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Yeah, Many are waiting for Doffy's counter to Gear 4 more than Gear 4 itself.
It has been long time since Luffy was outclassed in Brute Force.!
Dofla didn't even boost himself with Haki on this Kick. That destructive force is incredible. Doflamingo vs Sanji in a kick battle? Sanji bye bye
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I think gear 4 must have something to do with the rubber powers and friction combined like red-hawk just stronger, the real question is how?
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I think gear 4 must have something to do with the rubber powers and friction combined like red-hawk just stronger, the real question is how?
The faster you move the hotter the flame. It will be blue.
AOOOOOO KIJIIIIIIIIII will be his new attack.
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Would be funny if after all these complicated speculations it would just be some funny stuff like the gomugomu octopus he used against Enel
As long as Oda goes for the pun TakoHaki I can accept anything.
By the way, I fund this on Deviantart. Obviously inspired by HxH. It's from Dika-Brew.
http://img10.deviantart.net/b50b/i/2015/105/5/d/gear_4_by_dika_brew-d8pvew4.jpg http://pre03.deviantart.net/b7b4/th/pre/i/2015/106/b/d/gear_4_page_2_by_dika_brew-d8pvgip.jpg
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I think we are still unoriginal with these techniques. I am reading the spoilers and chapter discussions from 2005 and no one came even remotely close to the right conclusion and mind you, people had something to go off to making these claims. Their predictions are basically the same as ours. Vulcanization in chapter 387 was one of the main things discussed as a power-up and someone talked about gear 3rd being about muscle compression causing harder rubber and thereby more powerful attacks…...sound familiar???????
Granted they didn't have nine years to predict the next gear, so I am sure someone is close.
I like the rubber band theory with sound waves and everything, and nervous system one with electricity part too.
For me, no haki please Oda!!! The 4th gear is going to be more effective when haki is put on top it then it being a gear itself.
It could be a super stretching ability that maybe allows Luffy to stretch any part of his body and stretch out a second hand...I don knowwww.
As long as Oda put a lot of time into this gear, then I know we will get something special.
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As long as Oda goes for the pun TakoHaki I can accept anything.
By the way, I fund this on Deviantart. Obviously inspired by HxH. It's from Dika-Brew.
http://img10.deviantart.net/b50b/i/2015/105/5/d/gear_4_by_dika_brew-d8pvew4.jpg http://pre03.deviantart.net/b7b4/th/pre/i/2015/106/b/d/gear_4_page_2_by_dika_brew-d8pvgip.jpgHaha awesome
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100% sure that gear 4 will have power close to gear 3 but not equivalent to G3 power since Luffy hasn't landed a single hit on Dofla with G3 because it's slow, so G4 is something that has close to that power but half fast as G2..
So gear 4 will be a half/power of G3 plus half/speed of G2 combined, this way G3 and G2 won't become unnecessary.
Now imagine a normal looking Luffy with a punch near as powerful as G3? You remember how Dofla kick crumbled half side of the building they were on? Now luffys one punch in G4 will destroy the whole damn building and this will be another reason Luffy wanted Robin and co to step back.
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@KNAAL, how did you come up with that idea of yours? I doubt it would be possible but this is a cartoon. One more thing, do you think gigantic macrocytic rbc would be most ideal? Even compressed, what effect on the shearing forces and even flow of the blood in the vasculature would that morphologic change have? Air can be useful, but air can be destructive as emboli. Btw fellow forum users, how did luffy manage to blow air in his bones? Yes he is rubber human, but would'nt there need an opening?
Knaal, i like the creativity of the cell, you got me thinking of organelles like mitochondria, then coupled with his appetite and air containing and vaccuming, i want to challenge you to make a second theory using a different cell or organelle. One of your theory's might be right or neigher, but since you came with the first one, i wanna see what you can come up with next.
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It's definitely going to be something easy to perform. Luffy isn't that smart
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Since I read the manga I do not care but I think we should probably change the name of the topic or make it not visible outside the manga subforum.. it's kind of a big spoiler for anime-only fans
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Since I read the manga I do not care but I think we should probably change the name of the topic or make it not visible outside the manga subforum.. it's kind of a big spoiler for anime-only fans
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Gear 4 is achieved by a pirate taking in the energy of five other pirates with pure hearts.
Pirates who are currently fetuses can be used.
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You telling me?
My whole life i had a dream of a proper manual LuffyMobil.Soon i'll be able to drive one at proper speeds: (just 2 to go)
http://s21.postimg.org/lpldhs1l3/gear_shift_stickers_r609c2ccb2837440ea6892e6ce0c.pngi.e.
Hm, my car has Gear 6.
Hoping OP doesn't last long enough to need it.
Or not.
I'm not sure.
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I wouldn't want Gears to be the next Super Saiyan. Imagine a Gear God, then a Gear God Gear.
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I know everyone is super hyped about gear 4 but i have a feeling that it might not be badass like g2 and might let a lot of fans down. I think it could be something very simple and not visually appealing to the fans. Oda has trolled us many of times before.
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I wouldn't want Gears to be the next Super Saiyan. Imagine a Gear God, then a Gear God Gear.
I saw that there was a Super saiyan for super saiyan god coming up
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Gear fourth is gonna be very destructive.
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Gear fourth is gonna be very destructive.
Probably not. If it was he could have used it on noa back at the fisherman island arc.
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Trebol is not dead.
As soon as Luffy activates his Gear 4 form, Trebol will come back.
Trebol will be bleunified for hype.
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Probably not. If it was he could have used it on noa back at the fisherman island arc.
But what he used seemed to have been doing just fine don't you agree? He i think was stated to have destroyed half of noah right? And well plot reasons also, too soon to just reveal all of luffy's card. You know i doubt luffy will reveal gear fourth maximum capabilities against doffy. Unlike noah thou, doffy has proved that luffy's gears 2 and 3 ineffective.
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Probably not. If it was he could have used it on noa back at the fisherman island arc.
why people assume luffy learned G4 during time skip? he might have come up with it since then, some gears where just ideas that he came up with, no training needed
