So much negativity. Haven't watched the episode yet, but I can see Toei messing up a good chapter.
555: ''Explosive Movement! Zoro and Sanji Head Out!''
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I watched Hunter X Hunter before One Piece today. The difference in animation quality and art is borderline rediculous. We barely got 6/10 of a chapter in this episode, and why did they let out some awesome things. Why wasn't luffy standing on a pile of died body's during that noble's fishmen speech? Or Jinbei grinning when Luffy told Hody there can only be 1 King of pirates, why was Brook's scene different? Oh yeah, and why the fuck does Luffy still use Gear 2nd on his whole body? I don't care that Sanji still spins for Diablo Jambe, I think it's pretty cool, but come one Luffy not having to use his whole body for Gear 2nd is actually pretty crucial. This is really dissapointing. Today I decided to read the manga before watching the Anime. I always thought I enjoyed the Anime better because of the music and the voice actors but this is just extremely awfull. They are ruining the fight scenes with all the flashbacks and horrid pacing, not to mention Sanji's sky walk was such a joke in comparison to Geppou. I expected it to be more awesome than Geppou not this… It was incredibly slow and with horrible sfx. Toei does such an awfull job, yet somehow everything they touch seems to turn into gold, makes no fucking sense. This is coming from someone who would defend the Anime at almost all times. This episode just killed it for me. Now I just need to find a place where they sell manga's. Anyone got some good websites?
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Is Harisenbon`s role too short to be included as a character or something?
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@D:
The ones complaining are the ones who read the manga, and like always feel like it's their job to rant the anime or someshit .
Nobody is forcing you to watch it if you don't like it .
Actually glad that you're giving up [one less fucker to deal with next week ]
Seriously, i only see people who read the manga complaining .
If that's what you think I really feel sorry for you cause it's not just the people who read the manga complaining here.. I watched the anime long before I started reading the manga, it's just gotten to a point where it's just too bad to watch.
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It's just bad directing/writing, both Chopper's and Brooks scenes were just terrible in both animation and the voice actors..The flashbacks were just pointless, and the 4 main action scenes made me cringe (which is a first)...
It just..doesn't feel like One Piece anymore which is sad because this is my favourite show..
Whether or not it's that they're doing both the movie and the tv special is stupid, because if they're going to take this much away from the actual series whats the point of doing ANOTHER version of the Arlong Park arc?? They should be focusing on the series cause' they're losing fans left and right and adding another "alternate version" of part of the story isn't going to make up for it..
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I skipped Thriller Bark and most of impel down due to what was said about them and I can say with confidence that this is the worst episode of op ive seen, just terrible, pacing and animation need to step it up
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@Nia:
Sooo. A little birdie told me that Hattori was in this episode…
Oh man, when I heard that I was picturing so many awesome things. I knew the anime was in Fishmen Island right now, so Hattori obviously could not be in it. Maybe they were starting to FINALLY animate the other cover stories? Hattori was in a cover story, that could be it!
Or maybe Hattori was just randomly placed somewhere in Fishmen Island for some weird reason? That'd be cool as well!Aaaaand it turns out it was a flashback episode. And Hattori literally appeared 1 minute before the end. …. huh.
But it was nice to see an anime episode again. Now I have some voices to associate with all those characters. And colors.I gotta say, Hattori really saved this episode. nods vigorously
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@D:
The ones complaining are the ones who read the manga, and like always feel like it's their job to rant the anime or someshit .
Agree, the flashback within a flashback was to me the only letdown of this episode .But spectrum looked pretty awesome.. and is it just me or he [Sanji] did a double DJ ?
Agreed .
Nobody is forcing you to watch it if you don't like it .Actually glad that you're giving up [one less fucker to deal with next week ]
Seriously, i only see people who read the manga complaining .
Wrong, the ones who are complaining are the ones that have something that is called "standarts".
The animation of the most successfull manga of our time is just atrocious.
Seriously compare it to older episodes or anything that comes out today.
Even Slice of Life anime (Yes the kind of anime where the most excessive movement is probably running) today has more fluid movement than any scene that you can see in recent One piece episodes.Nobody forces you to read our complains either.
Seriously I wonder where the breaking point of people like you is. When the anime becomes a slideshow maybe? They already overuse moving stillshots anyway.
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i feel so sad, it feels like this isnt the show that i love before,
im broken hearted at one piece right.
its all TOEI's fault!
they really should stop making movies, they should just focus on making the episodes better since they are the main story. -
Watched the episode again, the art wasn't as bad as last week, but there were still some bad parts and it was even more dragged out than last week, which is understandable since it was like only half a chapter. Stuff was also skipped. Really meh episode.
i feel so sad, it feels like this isnt the show that i love before,
im broken hearted at one piece right.
its all TOEI's fault!
they really should stop making movies, they should just focus on making the episodes better since they are the main story.The funny thing is that Strong World was the last movie and that run in theaters already in like 2009. It's been like 2.5 years since the last real movie. Unless the 3D special was really expensive or something, but even then that was 30 minutes long.
I guess the best explanation for these bad episodes is that One Piece has good ratings either way or they're just pouring all their budget to Z and the Nami special.
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I've been re-watching the anime with my friends, we are around the climax of Skypeia. And it took me forever to realize why Nami looks so weird to me. It's because her eyes are so light and basically a different shape and more eye lashes lol. Dunno why it took me so long to get that.
But man I wish the anime was at the very least along the style of those episodes again. Had more character to it. In some ways I feel I'm watching a fan made video. I feel it's lost a lot of it's personality.
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Reading through this thread, I braced myself for the worst upon watching this episode, being that absolutely everyone seemed to hate it…
...And maybe it's because of all the extreme negativity here, but I didn't find it as bad as you guys made it seem. Granted, it wasn't particularly good either, but… worst episode ever? Really? Not even close.
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Dude what, this is a One Piece FORUM. Discussing One Piece episodes is what it's for, not a random message board where you spam how great the series is (contrary to popular belief)
You're saying no one is forcing the people complaining to watch the anime (which is really_dumb_argument btw), in the same way, no one is forcing you to "deal with" the people complaining
If a poster happens to think that a particular episode was a load of shit through lazy animation and horrible pacing (Like today's episode) then so be it. Hell, it's not as though the guy just said "EPISODE SUCKED. BECAUSE I SAID SO. MOVE ONTO NEXT WEEK WHERE I HOPE IT'LL BE GOOD.
Manga reader or not, he gave valid reasons as to why. If you have a problem with people's complaints atleast try tackling WHY they thought the episode was bad instead a raging at the simple fact that someone else is raging and nothing else
Gets your facts right beofore you start making shit up.. When did i spam how GREAT this episode was ?
Except most of the people complaining 1: haven't even watch the episode, 2: Were already complaining before sub was officialy out, 3: Were already complaining about this episodes since last week .
Jesus Christ would you at least recheck my reply to the guy before you start spamming irrelevant BS that has nothing to do with this ?
Manga reader ?
Exactly my point, those who read the manga feels like everything should be perfectly the same us in the manga .
The manga self didn't do any good in this arc, there were many skipped part, pacing was too fast etc .
To me, it just seem that your expectation for the anime which has always be < manga was too high for this arc which was not even One Piece standard in the manga.@Ghosty:
But this week's episode is just THAT BAD.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion man .
Or are you saying your opinion = fact ?
FYI i'm not even saying this episode was "that" good, "horrible" that it surely wasn't especially when you compare it to the shit we got last week .
Wrong, the ones who are complaining are the ones that have something that is called "standarts".
The animation of the most successfull manga of our time is just atrocious.
Seriously compare it to older episodes or anything that comes out today.
Even Slice of Life anime (Yes the kind of anime where the most excessive movement is probably running) today has more fluid movement than any scene that you can see in recent One piece episodes.Nobody forces you to read our complains either.
Seriously I wonder where the breaking point of people like you is. When the anime becomes a slideshow maybe? They already overuse moving stillshots anyway.
I think One Piece for all it's success deserves a better anime version that at the very least doesn't fall behind shows without any combat scenes at all in animation quality.Standards .
Being the most successful in manga doesn't equal the most successful in anime, does it ?
That i did " i compared this to that from last week, and this one was 1000 of times better than what we got last week " .And i said they did, right ?
FYI i repeat FYI i was one of those complaining about last week episode "not on this site tho", i can tell when anime is bad, horrible, awful, unbearable etc, but this episode surely wasn't any of those .
And i think people who go in the episode with a mindset of it will be shit, shouldn't waste their time on it.. but.. hey, that's just my opinion .
@nodensuke:If that's what you think I really feel sorry for you cause it's not just the people who read the manga complaining here.. I watched the anime long before I started reading the manga, it's just gotten to a point where it's just too bad to watch.
Wait, what ?
Are you saying you have read the manga or not ?
If you haven't read the manga till this arc and are only following the anime, how do you know the pacing is slow ?
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This week was…OK....
I mean, horribly dragged out....but OK....right?Like, with the Hattori cameo and all....
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"Hattori cameo"
When ?
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Wait, what ?
Are you saying you have read the manga or not ?
If you haven't read the manga till this arc and are only following the anime, how do you know the pacing is slow ?
My post makes sense, it's just you…
I watch and read the series. I've watched the anime longer though, and that doesn't in anyway indicate that I started reading the manga this arc. I know the pacing is slow because I've been watching and reading it for quite a while.
People are complaining because not only is the pacing bad, the animation and directing is also terrible in these recent episodes..And to be honest, for me to be saying this is quite rare, because I've absolutely loved the anime up until these past 10 or so episodes and have never really complained about anything anime related.
You're right though, people who read the manga often compare it to the anime but that's pretty normal for any series so you're point is invalid and pointless)...
One Piece being such a long series, and Toei being the sole producer of the show, you'd expect the episodes to get better as they go, not worse.
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Okay, so this is the first anime episode I've watched in years, so I'm neither complaining about it or praising it, but:
@D:
2: Were already complaining before sub was officialy out
… so? There are a few people here who speak or at least understand Japanese. Why the hell would they have to wait for subs to voice their opinion.
Also (and more importantly), the Japanese used in One Piece isn't all that difficult to understand. They mostly use very common, simple words. Hell, even I understand what's going on, and I have no idea of Japanese at all. I'm sure any regular anime fan who watches a lot of subbed episodes can manage just fine. Even if you don't understand every single word it's not exactly hard to follow what's happening.@D:
If you haven't read the manga till this arc and are only following the anime, how do you know the pacing is slow ?
You don't have to read the manga to get the feeling that "holy shit, this is taking FOREVER. I've watched a dozen episodes and next to nothing is happening!!" or "This isn't going anywhere! It didn't use to be this slow back in Alabasta!"
You would only have to know the manga to say that the pacing is slower compared to the manga. But complaining about slow pacing in general doesn't require reading the manga as well.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
@D:
"Hattori cameo"
When ?
About 1 minute before the episode ends. They talk about Sanji's Skywalk and flash back to Lucci and Hattori for a few seconds.
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@D:
Standards .
Being the most successful in manga doesn't equal the most successful in anime, does it ?
That i did " i compared this to that from last week, and this one was 1000 of times better than what we got last week " .And i said they did, right ?
FYI i repeat FYI i was one of those complaining about last week episode "not on this site tho", i can tell when anime is bad, horrible, awful, unbearable etc, but this episode surely wasn't any of those .
And i think people who go in the episode with a mindset of it will be shit, shouldn't waste their time on it.. but.. hey, that's just my opinion .That's not what I said and not what I was getting at. With One Piece being such a popular franchise I'd love them to at least put as much effort/money(which it deserves) into the anime as other series that are adaption of series that are literally 100-1000 times less popular and still get better animation(again I'm not talking about direction or pacing but strictly animation which is a pure technical aspect and is subject to objective judgement).
The thing is I'm referring to most episodes since the end of the first time in shabondy. Marineford especially was really hard to watch.
No we don't go into watching every One Piece episodes with the mindset that it will be shit (at least I don't), because that would be a damn waste of time.
I watch it in hope that they'll up their standarts again. Even the old episodes (skypea, alabasta etc) weren't that amazing if you compare them to some of the things that came out at that time but it very well was at the higher end of the spectrum that one could call animation standart at that time.Again I don't know if you judge the episode as a whole which isn't that bad but also not that good but the reason for that is more thanks to the source material and the well established characters. The animation in itself is just not enjoyable to watch. Really just try counting the sliding stillshots per episode where the max animation in them is maybe moving mouths. And the main point of watching anime is seeing things in movement which a action battle anime should have more of than a slice of life anime.
Also when people say at this point they like the manga more than the anime than it might very well mean that they just don't like the "new brighter colors" toei uses and rather have them black and white since true movement animation doesn't happen as much as it should.
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@Nodesuke
So which was first for this arc, the anime or manga ?
That's what the "wait, what" was for .
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"Hattori cameo"
When ?
A little after Robin comments about Sanji`s Sky Walk.
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@Nodesuke
So which was first for this arc, the anime or manga ?
That's what the "wait, what" was for .
Anime actually.. I took a break from both and caught up with anime during the trip to Ryugu Castle, and then caught up to the current manga chapter, which was at the end of this arc.
And I really enjoyed this arc in the manga..
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@Nia:
… so? There are a few people here who speak or at least understand Japanese. Why the hell would they have to wait for subs to voice their opinion.
Also (and more importantly), the Japanese used in One Piece isn't all that difficult to understand. They mostly use very common, simple words. Hell, even I understand what's going on, and I have no idea of Japanese at all. I'm sure any regular anime fan who watches a lot of subbed episodes can manage just fine. Even if you don't understand every single word it's not exactly hard to follow what's happening.You don't have to read the manga to get the feeling that "holy shit, this is taking FOREVER. I've watched a dozen episodes and next to nothing is happening!!" or "This isn't going anywhere! It didn't use to be this slow back in Alabasta!"
You would only have to know the manga to say that the pacing is slower compared to the manga. But complaining about slow pacing in general doesn't require reading the manga as well.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
About 1 minute before the episode ends. They talk about Sanji's Skywalk and flash back to Lucci and Hattori for a few seconds.
19 posts, 19 complains, are you saying that all those 19 people are fluent in Japanese ? And as i said some of them were complaining since LAST WEEK .
That just shows how excited you are .
"holy shit, this is taking FOREVER." But what if it was exactly the same in the manga, How is that the animes fault ?"It didn't use to be this slow back in Alabasta!" To me Arabasta [anime] was very very very slow compared to this, it even "almost" made me quit One Piece, if it wasn't for wikia i would never have realized that all those episode in the desert were fillers .
Ehm.. you do know that those complaining about the pacing are those comparing it to the manga, right ?
Tnx .
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First and foremost, let me remind everyone that we all share different opinions of what makes "good standards", so I don't want this turning into a flame war here. I respect your views on hating the anime, but I just don't feel the same.
@Mr.:
108 pound cannon? Really Toei? Almost as bad as Zoro cutting through cannonballs way before his fight with Mr. 1, but this time it was the opposite and they should even know that he upgraded that move, if they read the manga that is.
I just don't get why people are getting so worked up over these small details? So they used older attacks? Who cares? They can't reveal upgraded attacks in the anime before it happened in the manga. You guys would be complaining about that as well. And it's not like Zoro doesn't still know his old attacks. Why would he care to use his most powerful attacks against some weak, no-name fodder?
Am I the only one who felt even the smallest bit nostalgic because of the music they used…?
No, I felt the same. Especially upon hearing Zoro's flashback. That music hasn't been used in AGES. I was hoping to hear Zoro's battle music from the old days, but maybe they're saving that for his main fight.
@Ghosty:
But this week's episode is just THAT BAD.
Wrong, the ones who are complaining are the ones that have something that is called "standarts".
The animation of the most successfull manga of our time is just atrocious.
Seriously compare it to older episodes or anything that comes out today.
Even Slice of Life anime (Yes the kind of anime where the most excessive movement is probably running) today has more fluid movement than any scene that you can see in recent One piece episodes.Nobody forces you to read our complains either.
Seriously I wonder where the breaking point of people like you is. When the anime becomes a slideshow maybe? They already overuse moving stillshots anyway.
I think One Piece for all it's success deserves a better anime version that at the very least doesn't fall behind shows without any combat scenes at all in animation quality.So I have terrible standards just because I liked this episode? I can see complaining about the art and animation last week, but I don't get the hatred for it at all this week. It looks just fine to me. Calling this the worst episode ever is just ridiculous. Atrocious. I can think of a handful of episodes that were far worse. Far, far worse. For example, the episode they had Sanji fighting in a dress… barf
I'm also a manga reader, and while I can surely get some of the complaints, I feel some of you just like to nitpick over some of the tiniest things. It gives me a headache sometimes, to be honest, but I already come here expecting it I guess.
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@D:
Ehm.. you do know that those complaining about the pacing are those comparing it to the manga, right ?
Tnx .
Stop being so thick. If your only frame of comparison is the manga than you haven't experienced enough media.
It doesn't take a genius to notice that the flashback scenes before their skill showcase is pandering and just prolonging the episode with material they already had.So I have terrible standards just because I liked this episode? I can see complaining about the art and animation last week, but I don't get the hatred for it at all this week. It looks just fine to me. Calling this the worst episode ever is just ridiculous. Atrocious. I can think of a handful of episodes that were far worse. Far, far worse. For example, the episode they had Sanji fighting in a dress… barf
First I wouldn't call them terrible but they are objectively low. You can like whatever you want I just don't understand why you're content with that if it's evidently possible to have something much better.
I don't have ridiculous demands like having animation on the level of the likes of full metal alchemist or anything similar but it should be at the very least be as good as your 0815 light novel adaption is that too much?
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I don't recall One piece episodes being consistently poor for several weeks in a row (well, except early Marineford), since One Piece has several different animation teams working on the episodes these days, at least one episode knocks it out of the park sooner or later.
The One Piece anime has had these sorts of slumps ever since that infamous string of flashback episodes on Enies Lobby. However, it is possible the episode budget isn't as high as it used to be.
And again I personally found this episode a step up from last weeks, despite a new set of caveats. Just ok, really.
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I can't quite understand how people can call the current animation 'good' despite having watched One Piece for a long time (at least it seems that way to me when reading your posts). The animation that's been used for the past few episodes was mostly bad. Simply bad. Toei can do better if they want but they're aware of the fact that fans will continue watching the series even if the animation is atrocious (ratings speak for themselves) hence the low quality continues. It's just not fair that a masterpiece like One Piece gets such treatment; especially looking at past arcs.
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Stop being so thick. If your only frame of comparison is the manga than you haven't experienced enough media.
It doesn't take a genius to notice that the flashback scenes before their skill showcase is pandering and just prolonging the episode with material they already had.It's called padding for time since they are so close to the manga. The flashbacks took maybe 5 minutes of the entire episode, so it's not as bad as you're saying it is.
I can't quite understand how people can call the current animation 'good' despite having watched One Piece for a long time (at least it seems that way to me when reading your posts). The animation that's been used for the past few episodes was mostly bad. Simply bad. Toei can do better if they want but they're aware of the fact that fans will continue watching the series even if the animation is atrocious (ratings speak for themselves) hence the low quality continues. It's just not fair that a masterpiece like One Piece gets such treatment; especially looking at past arcs.
Honestly I hope that some of you are right in their opinion that it's because of the other two big ongoing projects that the weekly episodes end up being so lousy at the moment.I can call it good (not great) because the characters were drawn well over all and I'm comparing it to what we had last week. I don't get how you can call it terrible this week when we can clearly see the difference in quality from last week to this week. Sure, I've been watching for years and I've seen what Toei can do. I'm also not so picky about this stuff that I'll call something that is B- level quality terrible when we just came from an episode with C material at its best moments and possibly D+ material at the worst moments.
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Difference with Enies Lobby is that one can choose to skip it when marathonning the arc. Same with those 'Boss Luffy' episodes from around that time.
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19 posts, 19 complains, are you saying that all those 19 people are fluent in Japanese ?
Dude, try to read my entire post. It's not that long.
I explicitly said and made it a point to emphasize that you DON'T have to be fluent in Japanese AT ALL. You could probably even watch the episode without any audio and understand what's going on, basically, especially if you've read the manga before. EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T read the manga at al and only have the most rudimentary knowledge of Japanese, like every anime watcher who regularly watches subbed episodes is bound to acquire sooner or later, will understand what is going on.And it's not a coincidence that I only quoted that one part of your argument. I did that on purpose, you know, since I only focused on that part of it because it sounded especially silly.
I did not try to justify the complaints of others and I did not say that it was okay to complain before the episode even aired. How did you even get that idea?
The point of that entire paragraph was to explain that you don't need subs to see that an episode is horribly paced or whatever.
However, of course you'd need to actually SEE the episode to say anything about it, duh. I never said anything against THAT.@D:
But what if it was exactly the same in the manga, How is that the animes fault ?
That's the point. It doesn't have to be the anime's original fault. But you know what? Whoever watches the anime doesn't give a shit who's fault it was. If the manga's pacing sucked, the anime could have improved it. Some things work in a manga format, but they don't translate well to anime. Some things need to be changed to work in an anime format, and pacing can be one of those points. I'm not saying the manga's pacing was bad, I'm not even saying the animes is (as I made perfectly clear in my very first sentence).
Either way, if you feel like something is horribly paced, you may very well say that, no matter WHY it is horribly paced. It doesn't matter which source is to blame, in the end you're looking at a (in your opinion) horrible pacing, and you have every right to voice that opinion.@D:
"It didn't use to be this slow back in Alabasta!"
That was just a random example. I thought that would be obvious. I clearly said I haven't watched the anime in forever, so I wouldn't know how bad the pacing of the FI arc really is.
A lot of people explicilty said they are or used to be anime-only watches and still complain about the pacing. That's what this was about.
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It's called padding for time since they are so close to the manga. The flashbacks took maybe 5 minutes of the entire episode, so it's not as bad as you're saying it is.
I know and I didn't attribute it as bad if you look an my post. I took an issue with his argument that the only complainers of the pacing are people that compare it to the manga which isn't true. You can notice that it's not good pacing and "padding" with just being familiar with other media. Alas I never said the pacing is so bad it's breaking the series. If padding was the only thing they'd use to give us better animation for other parts than it is a necessary evil but for now it's just another issue (although not major) within all other issues.
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I just don't get why people are getting so worked up over these small details? So they used older attacks? Who cares? They can't reveal upgraded attacks in the anime before it happened in the manga. You guys would be complaining about that as well. And it's not like Zoro doesn't still know his old attacks. Why would he care to use his most powerful attacks against some weak, no-name fodder?
How about they just don't do it? If Zoro is capable of using more than 3x that power with just one sword now then why is he using three swords to perform a 108 pound cannon as if he hasn't improved at all and needs three swords for the attack? I'm sorry I care about details and logic. This is a big faux paux on Toei's part.
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@Nia:
I explicitly said and made it a point to emphasize that you DON'T have to be fluent in Japanese AT ALL. You could probably even watch the episode without any audio and understand what's going on, basically, especially if you've read the manga before. EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T read the manga at al and only have the most rudimentary knowledge of Japanese, like every anime watcher who regularly watches subbed episodes is bound to acquire sooner or later, will understand what is going on.
This is quite true. I'm still learning Japanese, but I started off with basic knowledge all frequent sub watchers pick up. There are certain things said in this particular episode that most sub watchers would be familiar with after hearing and knowing the attacks for so long. Since then I've learned a lot more, but it was still thanks to my exposure to raw anime and me trying my hand at subbing and looking up words that I was able to get started.
I know and I didn't attribute it as bad if you look an my post. I took an issue with his argument that the only complainers of the pacing are people that compare it to the manga which isn't true. You can notice that it's not good pacing and "padding" with just being familiar with other media. Alas I never said the pacing is so bad it's breaking the series. If padding was the only thing they'd use to give us better animation for other parts than it is a necessary evil but for now it's just another issue (although not major) within all other issues.
Okay, I missed your first post through all these posts being added. I misunderstood what you meant.
I didn't think this episode was bad, but it's not like I haven't taken issue with the pacing in the previous episodes. If you guys recall my posts about a month ago, you'll see my point.
@Mr.:
How about they just don't do it? If Zoro is capable of using more than 3x that power with just one sword now then why is he using three swords for a fodder clearing attack? I'm sorry I care about details and logic.
All I'm saying is it didn't bother me because I don't get my undies in a bunch over the most miniscule of details. And I care for details and logic, but not to the point of obsessing over them.
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Difference with Enies Lobby is that one can choose to skip it when marathonning the arc. Same with those 'Boss Luffy' episodes from around that time.
I wasn't just talking about the filler in those episodes latter Enies Lobby episodes. From the Rocketman crashing into the Tower of Justice onward episode quality just got more spotty in general (with exceptions, of course), along with being mostly one chapter/one episode pacing from then on.
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Anime quality :
Hodi <3
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taht franky made my day, thanks
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@Hancock:
Anime quality :
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/1834917001.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/4962558002.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/9516748403.jpg http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/9091191801.jpg
Hodi <3
Just perfect isn't it ?Pfffff, Hodi is spot-on. But I think I like Nami better, somehow.
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All I'm saying is it didn't bother me because I don't get my undies in a bunch over the most miniscule of details. And I care for details and logic, but not to the point of obsessing over them.
I'm happy for you. Just don't condescend me for caring about details.
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No, this episode was actually really crap. We had high hopes for epic fast paced action. This is what we got: Zoro/sanji starts atack–>3 minute flashback-->Mediocre animation and art during atack(skywalk....)-->Crowd shots of people going omfgfgxlkfjg;lfdkjg;. The horrible pacing ruined all the action.
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And to think they had that awesome dynamic entrance by Luffy just a couple of episodes back.
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@Mr.:
I'm happy for you. Just don't condescend me for caring about details.
Why, oh why, must it always come down to this? Can I please just state my opinion and have a debate with you guys without you thinking I am personally attacking you? I was just making light humor in my response to lighten the mood a bit.
Anyway, those shots were pretty bad, actually. Most of those were from far away shots though, weren't they? One Piece always does bad with those. Most anime, actually, do. Even in the best of episodes the distant shots are always meh at best. I love that Hody one though, and that's pretty much how I feel about the idiot.
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And the main point of watching anime is seeing things in movement which a action battle anime should have more of than a slice of life anime.
Not necessarily.
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To be honest, I watch the anime more for the character voices and the music. Though I do love to see stuff in motion when it's done well.
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Not necessarily.
care to elaborate? I'm not saying everyone enjoys the same things when watching anime but there is a reason it's called "anime" and not "colored slideshow with music". Don't know what you're getting at.
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@Hancock:
Anime quality :
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/1834917001.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/4962558002.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/9516748403.jpg http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/9091191801.jpg
Hodi <3
Just perfect isn't it ?Oh God that's hilarious. I swear those could be used as internet memes- especially the Franky one lol
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This thread….
I swear, this is more entertaining than the entire episode.
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@Hancock:
Anime quality :
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/1834917001.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/4962558002.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/9516748403.jpg http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/9091191801.jpg
DAT FRANKY.
No seriously, I think that was one of the hardest laughs I've ever had on these forums. -
Franky looks like he's channeling his inner Vander Decken.
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@Hancock:
Anime quality :
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/1834917001.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/4962558002.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/9516748403.jpg http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/9091191801.jpg
Hodi <3
Just perfect isn't it ?It's funny when you realize that most of these pictures were from far away shots..
And I'm keeping that Franky. -
It's funny when you realize that most of these pictures were from far away shots..
And I'm keeping that Franky.Lookin' good, man.
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care to elaborate? I'm not saying everyone enjoys the same things when watching anime but there is a reason it's called "anime" and not "colored slideshow with music". Don't know what you're getting at.
I am saying that that battles scenes aren't the only way to flex animator's "muscle" so to speak.There is huge amount of animation detail to be had in seemingly mundane things.Even with people just talking there are things like body language and stuff.
What,I'm getting at,is that I don't believe that things with fighting scenes have better animation quality as a rule of thumb.Titles don't focus on fight scenes can be just as well animated as those that do.It depends on who handles the content and how much effort and money is put in.Atleast,that's how I see it.
Not that fight scenes aren't a good and easy outlet for high-level animation,mind you,but they are far,far from being the only way.Plus,there are lot's of action scenes that didn't necessarily involve people hitting each other.