Strawhat Crew Theories and Prediction Thread

Superbear 22

Remember how Marco had to transform every time he wanted to use his fruit's power?

No? He just used the flames without transforming?

We have seen only two other mythical zoans and it seems they don't have he same rules, you can't just claim this aura of all-knowing smugness without anything to back it up.

He used his regen abilities without transforming pretty well here.

! Also the very first time we see him use his powers he transformed, you can see his silhouette has wings in the explosion.

! Also I've provided this and other proof earlier in the thread.

P1nk

@Superbear:

He used his regen abilities without transforming pretty well here.

! [qimg]http://dl01.mangashare.com/manga/One-Piece/568/009.jpg[/qimg]

His physical body got hurt. His zoan body doesn't seem to absorb pain. But he got sea stone cuffs put on quickly after he was shot so it's hard to tell what would have happened. Just sayin

Superbear 22

@P1nk:

His physical body got hurt. His zoan body doesn't seem to absorb pain. But he got sea stone cuffs put on quickly after he was shot so it's hard to tell what would have happened. Just sayin

That's what makes his bird power unique. He regenerates, also he's not wearing handcuffs at the time he got shot.

That would be here, after the first two shots

! He was about transform partially and he was cuffed.

P1nk

@Superbear:

That's what makes his bird power unique. He regenerates, also he's not wearing handcuffs at the time he got shot.

That would be here, after the first two shots

! [qimg]http://dl01.mangashare.com/manga/One-Piece/569/006.jpg[/qimg] He was about transform partially and he was cuffed.

I think were in agreement. To me it seems he didn't need to transform to heal, he just activated the healing flame.

Superbear 22

@P1nk:

I think were in agreement. To me it seems he didn't need to transform to heal, he just activated the healing flame.

It seems like he was partially transforming to me,like when he had wings ith a human body, also the flames weren't appearing where he got shot. Onigumo has two transformations as well, one being a partial transformations the other being kind of being a hybrid form.

Blowfish

You maybe are right for now Superbear, I fully acknowledge that fact. But Kinemon's character /Df fruit ability or otherwise can be so well developed it's not even funny.

The best part about that is he doesn't even fully "understand" his own power so who knows what else he can do with his Df.

I think that's generally why people think he'll join is because aside from being a breath of fresh air the guy has so much potential to be a great character in this series ,namely a Nakama.

I don't think we should worry about if his abilities are fire related or not imo the basic five elements is very common in this series and I think this type ability is a very creative move by Oda in all honesty i'm kinda happy I was wrong ,this Mofo made the slime explode and then slashed down the explosion that followed ,that my Friends is pretty Badass.

TheCrystalShip

@Blowfish:

I think that's generally why people think he'll join is because aside from being a breath of fresh air the guy has so much potential to be a great character in this series ,namely Nakama.

A "breath of fresh air" would be a nakama that is actually unique and is not already on the crew (Brook).

Blowfish

@TheCrystalShip:

A "breath of fresh air" would be a nakama that is actually unique and is not already on the crew (Brook).

How is he like Brook aside from being a swordsmen and df user?

Franky is just a beefed up Ussop. See we could do this type of thing all day.

TheCrystalShip

@Blowfish:

How is he like Brook aside from being a swordsmen and df user?

Franky is just a beefed up Ussop. See we could do this type of thing all day.

Kinemon is a character who is older than the rest of the crew (besides Brook), and yet, is very immature and perverted. When he was first encountered (on TB 2.0, no less), he had to find the remainder of his body, which was separated by a Shichibukai. His goal is to be reunited with his lost son. He's an elemental swordsman. If we just replace "breast band" with "panties", "torso" with "shadow", and "Momonosuke" with "Laboon"… His powers have very little to do with it, really. I just think that his personality would add nothing to the crew dynamic.

Blowfish

@TheCrystalShip:

Kinemon is a character who is older than the rest of the crew (besides Brook), and yet, is very immature and perverted. When he was first encountered (on TB 2.0, no less), he had to find the remainder of his body, which was separated by a Shichibukai. His goal is to be reunited with his lost son. He's an elemental swordsman. If we just replace "breast band" with "panties", "torso" with "shadow", and "Momonosuke" with "Laboon"… His powers have very little to do with it, really. I just think that his personality would add nothing to the crew dynamic.

Alot of the SH back stories are just subtle repeats of each others ,it's either I wanna be the best at this or I need to find that. But I fully understand what you mean and you're right they do have an identical comparison , but as it stands Brook is a Musician. We have yet to exactly see what Kinemon's profession is and if CC knew of him he must be well known for something maybe he brings a competely new dynamic to the table that we don't know about and I think thats the best part about this character.

He just seems awesome and I think he could have a legitimate chance to join but I wont get my hopes up.

Superbear 22

@TheCrystalShip:

Kinemon is a character who is older than the rest of the crew (besides Brook), and yet, is very immature and perverted. When he was first encountered (on TB 2.0, no less), he had to find the remainder of his body, which was separated by a Shichibukai. His goal is to be reunited with his lost son. He's an elemental swordsman. If we just replace "breast band" with "panties", "torso" with "shadow", and "Momonosuke" with "Laboon"… His powers have very little to do with it, really. I just think that his personality would add nothing to the crew dynamic.

I said this about him and Jinbe, but I when say it I'm "MISTER CRAZY MAN ASKING FOR BREADS THAT AREN'T TOO BIG". I agree with you.

Blowfish

@Superbear:

I said this about him and Jinbe, but I when say it I'm "MISTER CRAZY MAN ASKING FOR BREADS THAT AREN'T TOO BIG". I agree with you.

Oh Jinbe's just like Brook too? That's news to me.

TheCrystalShip

@Blowfish:

Oh Jinbe's just like Brook too? That's news to me.

LOL, I don't think that's what he was saying.

I have prepared myself for the possibility of Jinbē joining, but it's very odd that Oda didn't have him join at FI…

Superbear 22

@Blowfish:

Oh Jinbe's just like Brook too? That's news to me.

No, where did you even? Jinbe is Zoro. A straight man, counseling, Japanese themed character (Yes the manga is from Japan you know what mean) who honors those who he is indebted to. His fighting style is unique but that's it really. Imagine if Kinemon and Jinbe both joined, the crew would look awful. No I don't mean "awfully awesome" either. It would be tacky to have three Japanese characters who all look the same.

@The CrystalShip

That's why I doubt him joining, all that set up amounted to nothing, the crew didn't even ask if he needed help the the duty he needed to do however the majority follow the wishes of a complete stranger (Law) in this arc. It doesn't make sense.

Blowfish

@Superbear:

It would be tacky to have three Japanese characters who all look the same.

Yes yes we can't have such things, Japanese characters in Japanese art. Where the hell does Oda get off…

@TheCrystalShip:

but it's very odd that Oda didn't have him join at FI…

Must mean he'll die.

Superbear 22

@Blowfish:

Yes yes ,we can't have such things Japanese characters in Japanese art. Where the hell does Oda get off…

So you don't get it, I assume?

Everyone has had different themes up to this point why in the world would anyone with this type of character set up start giving main characters the same theme? They're hasn't been an established Straw hat uniform or anything like that so giving main characters the same default out fit does not make sense.

Blowfish

@Superbear:

So you don't get it, I assume?

Nah I got it. 16 characters

Law of the sea

@Jabra:

I think Zoro doesn't want to learn Kinemons style. He has his own after all.

He simply saw a samurai from Wano kicking ass, thats it. He already snapped when the name Wano came up at the beginning of the arc - and now he witnessed the calibre of a swordsmen from said country.

I predict this will be the first time that Zoro actually demands that the crew visits a certain island, if the circumstances don't lead the SH's to Wano anyway. He always blindly followed Luffy, with no ambition whatsoever. The only condition was that if the journey prevents him from becoming the greatest swordsmen, he will leave the crew.

Nami and Chopper demanded that they finish their business on Punk Hazard, and Zoro might be the reason why they will go to Wano - which further develops on the SH'S overall theme: no hierarchy, everyones dreams and desires have the same priority. And now it is Zoro's turn, so to say.

Now to Kinemon joining the crew. Hm, difficult after this chapter, I agree. But for different reasons. His fighting style's theme is already more than covered by Sanji, and even Luffy utilizes heat to a degree (Red Hawk). Thats why I hope that Zoro doesn't become the third SH using fire (fourth if we still count Franky).

Fire is nice and all, but the only hope I have is that his abilitiy's come from the devil fruit and that cutting fire is just one aspect of his fighting style.

Zoro has said he wants a fire sword so Zoro will get one also he said this before the time skip and we know that Oda has planned ahead to the end of one piece!

@Lady:

From what Kinemon said, the ability to produce and cut fire comes from the sword itself. How this is possible might need to be explained but from it's basic description I'm going to guess that Zoro will ultimately Inherit the fire-sword or upon rescuing Kinemon's son / visiting Wano, will inherit a different element sword. The latter is less preferable, I'd prefer if this fire-sword were very unique and not something that was similar to many other swords in the NW. It would beg the question why we've never heard of such weapons despite Zoro's dream. Kinemon having a son is too strong a tie to be broken by adventures of helping Luffy become the Pirate King, I suspect he'll pass on the sword to Zoro. Kitetsu has served him well but in the NW, with everyone having become stronger, Zoro may well need a Sword upgrade to go along with his much improved skill.

I already said how the sword can do after all his island has dragons on it.

@Law:

Add to the fact Zoro has been wanting a fire sword for a long time and that he will most likely get it after the straw hats fix the problem on his island because Zoro will most likely lose a sword before that wano arc is over!

I think the fire sword is made from a real dragon's tooth!

TheCrystalShip

To be honest, part of me thinks that Jinbē will join just because Oda wants the crew to look as unorthodox as possible.
A fat blue fishman would certainly fit the bill, LOL. I'm still pretty amazed that Bon Kurei or Perona never joined.

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Superbear 22

@TheCrystalShip:

To be honest, part of me thinks that Jinbē will join just because Oda wants the crew to look as unorthodox as possible.
A fat blue fishman would certainly fit the bill, LOL. I'm still pretty amazed that Bon Kurei or Perona never joined.

Bon-chan I agree with you on, Perona's chances weren't really that definite powers were cool but then Brook learned how to turn into a ghost.

Jinbe just seems so confusing, the body work on him is fine I just don't like his theme, and the personality is well invigorating. Everyone on the crew is so diferent why would we need multiple main characters with the same theme, but this is apparently a ridiculous matter to discuss, its not like comics are visual medium or anything.

Blowfish

I think Oda wanted to play the whole take out a Yonko angle and tbh the only real way to give them a reason to go after Big Mom was adding the element of the SH's flag protecting FI and having Jinbe join. It's not really that hard to see.

Superbear 22

@Blowfish:

I think Oda wanted to play the whole take out a Yonko angle and tbh the only real way to give them a reason to go after Big Mom was adding the element of the SH's flag protecting FI and having Jinbe join. It's not really that hard to see.

They didn't go after Big Mom they let Jinbe handle his business and they went off to adventure. Any other person they help right away, that person's problem is the main goal, take Vivi for example: Drum Island and Little Garden were on the way but the ultimate goal was to get to Alabasta and stop Mr.0/Crocodile.

Blowfish

@Superbear:

They didn't go after Big Mom they let Jinbe handle his business and they went off to adventure. Any other person they help right away, that person's problem is the main goal, take Vivi for example: Drum Island and Little Garden were on the way but the ultimate goal was to get to Alabasta and stop Mr.0/Crocodile.

I was speaking under the assumption of whoever Law will be attempting to go after. I think Luffy said yes because it's Big Mom.

TheCrystalShip

One thing I DON'T think will happen is Jinbē's death.
It would be better to juxtapose the situation with Ace's death, by having Luffy save Jinbē.

Strelok

As I said before, Jimbei probably won't die.

! Brook will.

Kubihige

Going back to the zoan powers transforming thing,

http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-578/page015.html Marco seems to be using the flame and it doesn't look like he's transforming at all.

Superbear 22

@Kubihige:

Going back to the zoan powers transforming thing,

http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-578/page015.html Marco seems to be using the flame and it doesn't look like he's transforming at all.

Then again Marco can use partial transformations and the flames don't burn so their not used for attacks.

Noqanky

I don't get why people want Brook to die, or think that he will. Personally I think the most likely is Sanji. He got outdone by Zoro when he knocked him out to take on Kuma, and his dream is simply getting to the All Blue. Also, there was that throwaway Robin line of "someday he'll meet an interesting end", not to mention his theme of honor and all that stuff.
And no, it's not because I hate the character, it's because I think it's something he would do. Zeff sacrificed his leg to keep him alive, and Sanji is the sort of character who feels debt too strongly, which is why he tells kinemon to not feel indebted to him. So I feel it would be consistent for him to sacrifice himself for the crew.

Meanwhile, Brook needs to get to Laboon and spend his remaining years with that whale singing about his stories.

About Jinbe, definitely think he'll join, and it would make sense for Luffy to have been happy to agree with Law if the yonkou was Big Mom, as to him that would translate to getting his nakama's freedom.

Kubihige

@Superbear:

Then again Marco can use partial transformations and the flames don't burn so their not used for attacks.

But healing flames are still a special ability of his mythical zoan.

Superbear 22

@Kubihige:

But healing flames are still a special ability of his mythical zoan.

And that special ability is activated when Marco transforms, being engulfed in the healing flame can be called transforming partially because the Phoenix is made of the same flame, similar to how Onigumo sometimes just sprouts arms in his hair. The transformation is minuscule but its there.

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@Noqanky:

I don't get why people want Brook to die, or think that he will. Personally I think the most likely is Sanji. He got outdone by Zoro when he knocked him out to take on Kuma, and his dream is simply getting to the All Blue. Also, there was that throwaway Robin line of "someday he'll meet an interesting end", not to mention his theme of honor and all that stuff.
And no, it's not because I hate the character, it's because I think it's something he would do. Zeff sacrificed his leg to keep him alive, and Sanji is the sort of character who feels debt too strongly, which is why he tells kinemon to not feel indebted to him. So I feel it would be consistent for him to sacrifice himself for the crew.

Meanwhile, Brook needs to get to Laboon and spend his remaining years with that whale singing about his stories.

About Jinbe, definitely think he'll join, and it would make sense for Luffy to have been happy to agree with Law if the yonkou was Big Mom, as to him that would translate to getting his nakama's freedom.

I don't know why either and personally I would trade Brook for Jinbe any day, Brook to me is just a more interesting character.

CaptainKid

The odds that any SH will die before they reach Raftel is slim to none. Odds are Luffy will die in th end like Roger. Robin's comment is just because she's naturally morbid and macabre. Only way Sanji dies is we found out Scopper died before the crew reached Raftel (which I doubt HIGHLY). What type of F***IN retard wants Brook dead? His powers have gotten more interesting and he's hilarious. If Jinbe joins won't die but if not then he could die before joining. Even Franky who is probably the least liked SH, has no reason to die because he is useful and has a purpose as shipwright. So yeah the idea of any Strawhat dying except Luffy after finding One Piece is very stupid IMHO

I'm about to go to the gym (though considering how badly I eat it does much less than it could) but I have to clear up the idea Kinemon's SWORD is a fire sword, it's his FIREFOX STYLE geez. Zoro wouldn't wan to go with him if he had a flaming sword, he said he was interested in how he fights not his sword. People need to READ the manga

TheCrystalShip

@Noqanky:

I don't get why people want Brook to die, or think that he will. Personally I think the most likely is Sanji. He got outdone by Zoro when he knocked him out to take on Kuma, and his dream is simply getting to the All Blue. Also, there was that throwaway Robin line of "someday he'll meet an interesting end", not to mention his theme of honor and all that stuff.
And no, it's not because I hate the character, it's because I think it's something he would do. Zeff sacrificed his leg to keep him alive, and Sanji is the sort of character who feels debt too strongly, which is why he tells kinemon to not feel indebted to him. So I feel it would be consistent for him to sacrifice himself for the crew.

While I think this entire conversation was sparked by a misinterpreted joke (Brook is already dead, YOHOHOHO!), I have to ask… Why does Sanji's dream make it more likely for him to die? He still needs to get there, it's not any less important to him...

Also, since when is Franky the least liked Straw Hat?

CaptainKid

@TheCrystalShip:

Also, since when is Franky the least liked Straw Hat?

It's not scientific but every time I hear someone complain about their least favorite SH or the one who isn't needed, Franky is always #1 and sometime Brook. I didn't like Franky when first introduced but in the end I love him as a member, because Oda can make that work (that's why he's a f*ckin genius).

Kinemon won't join how retarded would it be to have 3 swordsmen? Not to mention he's gonna find his son and return to Wano then when the Strawhats arrive be like "Oh I know you were kidnapped but I'm leaving with them for a while". Odds are since his son wasn't with the main group, his son is possibly special in some way. Kinemon also doesn't have a flaming sword, he has a flaming sword STYLE (like to reiterate this because people don't get it or don't/can't read)

Noqanky

@TheCrystalShip:

While I think this entire conversation was sparked by a misinterpreted joke (Brook is already dead, YOHOHOHO!), I have to ask… Why does Sanji's dream make it more likely for him to die? He still needs to get there, it's not any less important to him...

Because it's the kind of thing where he can go "I have seen All blue and know it's real" and then make a sacrifice for the crew. Luffy also has the thing with his dream implying he can fulfill it and die, like Roger. However, other dreams interfere with death.
Chopper has to remain alive to be the best, cure-all doctor, and I assume his knowledge will keep Luffy from dying.
Nami has to remain alive in order to see the rest of the world and chart it.
Zoro I guess could die, but to be the best swordsman I feel he'd need to remain alive to hold his title.
Usopp is supposed to return to Kaya to tell her the stories of all his adventures.
Robin is the only Oharan who remains alive, and the only great archaeologist. Once the veil of truth is lifted, I can only imagine she'd lead a new generation of truth seekers, maybe even become a mother. Not to mention her declaration of wanting to live would make her death really really awful.
Franky's fate is linked to the ship, which has to survive for his dream to be fulfilled.
And, as mentioned, Brook should be able to return to Laboon and play that whale some songs.

Granted, this is all assuming that Raftel would be endgame and anything after that epilogue, since most dreams are linked to getting there. However, it's not unlikely there's more after that revolving on what was found at Raftel, so that maybe most of the dreams linked to Raftel, like Brook's and Franky's, would have technically been fulfilled before endgame fights and their deaths could happen. Of course, it's also assuming that someone in the crew will die, which may not be necessarily true. However, I'd be surprised if Ace was Luffy's only major loss, and even though I think Shanks will also die I feel nothing would hit Luffy as hard as losing a nakama.

TheCrystalShip

I have to admit, I almost thought Zoro would die on TB…

Strelok

If Sanji dies Luffy will die of hunger. And you missed the joke about Brook.

CaptainKid

@TheCrystalShip:

I have to admit, I almost thought Zoro would die on TB…

I'm waiting for Luffy to do some type of self-sacrifice, why is Zoro the one always willing to die? Ok Luffy did fight Aokiji 1 on 1. But he's the captain and he needs to have a moment where he is willing to die for the whole crew as the captain. I do understand Zoro's sacrifice was showing his change from saying if Luffy got in the way of his dream he'd kill him to he'd die for his captain even if he doesn't fulfill his dream.

Jabra

@CaptainKid:

I'm waiting for Luffy to do some type of self-sacrifice, why is Zoro the one always willing to die? Ok Luffy did fight Aokiji 1 on 1. But he's the captain and he needs to have a moment where he is willing to die for the whole crew as the captain. I do understand Zoro's sacrifice was showing his change from saying if Luffy got in the way of his dream he'd kill him to he'd die for his captain even if he doesn't fulfill his dream.

Ehm, what?

Luffy constantly puts his life on the line, basically in every major arc. There is always this one super powerful villain only Luffy can take on, and would have slaughtered the rest if it wasn't for his sacrifice. Lucci is the most prominent example.

Cymelion

@CaptainKid:

I'm waiting for Luffy to do some type of self-sacrifice, why is Zoro the one always willing to die? Ok Luffy did fight Aokiji 1 on 1. But he's the captain and he needs to have a moment where he is willing to die for the whole crew as the captain. I do understand Zoro's sacrifice was showing his change from saying if Luffy got in the way of his dream he'd kill him to he'd die for his captain even if he doesn't fulfill his dream.

Luffy doesn't "believe" in dying for his crew - he Believes in fighting to the death for his crew.
He has frequently taken on responsibility for his whole crew trying to shortcut fights just so his crew avoid having to fight - it's written to be a great big story and Luffy is enjoying the adventure.

infinite

Luffy self sacrificed for many random strangers in one piece, like margharite, vivi, etc.

I'd imagine he'll give his life away for his crew if there's no other way.

CaptainKid

I'm talking about a Zoro on Thriller Bark moment. Where everyone is defeated, and Luffy offers his over his crew's. I understand he's fought for his crew but Zoro's plans at that moment were to die for the crew and his captain. Lucci is a great example but again Zoro and Sanji were not knocked out like Luffy was in Thriller Bark

Czechmate

@Superbear:

Geez, say anything aganist Jinbe joining and people start cutting into you like a slab of beef at the deli.

…I'm not sure what message you're reading, but all he said was "Hence "Strawhat Crew Theories and Prediction Thread". Think you're being a little sensitive there. Slash making things up.

Superbear 22

@Czechmate:

…I'm not sure what message you're reading, but all he said was "Hence "Strawhat Crew Theories and Prediction Thread". Think you're being a little sensitive there. Slash making things up.

I just responded humorously to his snark. Is that a problem civility officer?

Noqanky

@CaptainKid:

I'm talking about a Zoro on Thriller Bark moment. Where everyone is defeated, and Luffy offers his over his crew's. I understand he's fought for his crew but Zoro's plans at that moment were to die for the crew and his captain. Lucci is a great example but again Zoro and Sanji were not knocked out like Luffy was in Thriller Bark

Thing is, Luffy has done that, he just doesn't phrase it like that. With Aokiji I'm sure he realized the difficulty of the enemy in front of him, which is why he phrased the challenge so that Aokiji would not touch his crew after he was dealt with. I don't think it matter whether anyone is knocked out or not, and I assume that, especially after that situation in Sabaody in which he saw each and every member of his crew get defeated and taken away from him, he wouldn't let it get to the point at which all his crew has been left unconscious.

Also, regarding a moment like that, I'm still adamant that Sanji will have one, as he is somewhat indebted to Zoro for having knocked him out when he was ready to put his honor on the line.

Brizan

@CaptainKid:

I'm talking about a Zoro on Thriller Bark moment. Where everyone is defeated, and Luffy offers his over his crew's. I understand he's fought for his crew but Zoro's plans at that moment were to die for the crew and his captain. Lucci is a great example but again Zoro and Sanji were not knocked out like Luffy was in Thriller Bark

There actually is one moment where he did sacrifice himself for the sake of his crew when they were fighting Aokiji and he told them to run knowing that Aokiji would let them get away since they agreed to a one on one.

CaptainKid

@Brizan:

There actually is one moment where he did sacrifice himself for the sake of his crew when they were fighting Aokiji and he told them to run knowing that Aokiji would let them get away since they agreed to a one on one.

Yeah but the crew wasn't on the brink of death which is different compared to being able to get away. Also after Aokiji beats him he says (paraphrasing) "So you did this to let your friends get away? Or did you actually think you could win?" which knowing Luffy possibly thought he could win and let him friend's get away.
@Noqanky Sanji shared the moment with Zoro, but Zoro knocked him out. I think Sanji might save Zoro to repay him but I don't think he'll have a moment like that for the crew. That moment makes Zoro seem more like the leader of the crew, or you could say it's the fact that the crew has so much respect for Luffy as a leader/captain that they'd all die for him and each other. Luffy already let his crew get beat or knocked out by CC, he really needs moment like that but maybe instead of giving up he uses CoC's true power and owns someone.

Brizan

@CaptainKid:

Yeah but the crew wasn't on the brink of death which is different compared to being able to get away. Also after Aokiji beats him he says (paraphrasing) "So you did this to let your friends get away? Or did you actually think you could win?" which knowing Luffy possibly thought he could win and let him friend's get away.

Yea I remember that and agree with you, but if that is the case Luffy will never have a moment of self sacrifice because he will never be that overpowered ever again. Kuzan is on a fleet admiral level after all and regardless of how strong BB gets, current Luffy has passed what I like to call the Haki gap, once people pass that, their strength increases greatly.

Edit: This of course is only counting human enemies, not ancient weapons which may have the power to easily defeat PK Luffy.

Drazgoon

Let's just hope none of the ancient weapons cause explosions, cause we've all seen where that's going…

CaptainKid

@Brizan:

Yea I remember that and agree with you, but if that is the case Luffy will never have a moment of self sacrifice because he will never be that overpowered ever again. Kuzan is on a fleet admiral level after all and regardless of how strong BB gets, current Luffy has passed what I like to call the Haki gap, once people pass that, their strength increases greatly.

Edit: This of course is only counting human enemies, not ancient weapons which may have the power to easily defeat PK Luffy.

He was able to beat Moria he just was exhausted and when Kuma came he couldn't even put up a fight. Much like on SA, granted Kizaru could have owned all of them by himself but if Sentoumaru and the Pacifista hadn't shown up then they probably could have escaped. I think another situation will arise where the SHs are exhausted and then another enemy arrives like if they beat Big Mam, the fact that they even fight her would make massive news in the WG quickly. So Akainu could show up when the crew is exhausted from fighting Big Mam or even having to fight CC then Virgo and take care of the Slime. But I do understand that them being outmatched by opponents to the level of Aokiji or Kizaru or Sentoumaru (if Luffy were to fight any of those 1v1 pre-TS) might not happen but seeing them get beaten could happen. I mean Law was owned by Virgo and remember what the pirates Kid beat said "Let us go back to the first half, compared to the New World it's paradise". I think the New World is going to be a constant barrage of opponents that challenge Luffy apart from Hordy I think there won't be many Don Krieg or Kuro opponents (meaning people Luffy has no trouble with).