Ah I dream of a day when a title of a thread would tell us when the next chapter is expected to come out
Kingdom
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Your dream, a forum mod's nightmare :P
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Your dream, an exercise in lack of patience of someone just posting a new chapter
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Not sure I get that last bit…
There are dozen manga out there, when someone is going to scream give me the chapter = that is lack of patience.
When someone will kindly ask when is the new chapter expected to come out = he is politely asking a question.We all have our own lives and reading manga is our hobby. Probably a lot of us are buying manga through some source or another just like how people are going to the concerts and occasionally buy a CD of some band or singer. But you cant expect people to know when all of the new albums are coming out, to own and buy all the tracks on their mp4 list and them wishing they would know some things in advance to make it easier and prevent them asking that question, is I believe perfectly normal.
I aplogize for going a bit off topic but just to clarify, there is no ill intention and let me dream of such things ey? Doesnt mean they will happen heh
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Most times when you bump the Kingdom or OPM threads, it is solely to just ask for a release date.
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[/hide]Generally when things get released, discussion starts up or someone posts the chapter. Just have a bit of patience, man
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Actually for Kingdom I would also write my thoughts on the chapters and what not, but even if I did not, would me only asking such questions be a problem?
Quite a lot of users only read what others post and while I personally am not like that, I dont see it as a problem, it is a comunity after all. In any case, politely asking for when the chapter will be released, I dont see it as a problem, naturally now that this has become an issue I will probably never ask again, cause my last wish is to cause problems, headaches for the people of this community, more like seek for information, but I understand where you are coming from.
In any case thanks for the information and help regarding the topic, I am eagerly awaiting new chapter of Kingdom
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Hey blue-san, I also await eagerly for a new chapter of Kingdom every week. I go to the scanlators site and usually they make either announcements or by checking the latest chapter's comment I find an estimate. Hope that helps.
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Hey dude,
There's a fb page
which usually posts spoilers and chapter update on weekly basis.
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When a chapter is released is when threads in this forum are typically active. From what you've written it seems that you get that having mods alter thread titles to indicate release dates is not only impractical for the mods, but implausible! In the first place, how should they know when each of the hundreds of manga that are read on this forum are going to be released by a scans group? Should they update every thread title in the Other Manga & Anime section when they know? That's a lot of work!
If finding out when the next chapter is released is your goal, you can either go to the scanlator's page & subscribe to their RSS feed, or join a Kingdom themed FB page as zeff redleg posted above.
I think those would help you solve the problem of not knowing when a chapter was going to be out much more effectively (and that goes for every manga in this section). Hope this helps! -
Thanks for the help guys. Noted!
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No problem, thanks for being so understanding, blue-san! We're all fans here!
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I hope the chapter isnt as boring as the spoilers suggest.
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Finally some badassery!
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Poor Makou, more useful dead than alive. Nice job, Hara.
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I dont know to be honest.
Firstly I get the idea behind it, but it's a bit of so so the entire come back for me. Feels too much of an asspull. Also lying to the soldiers…if it were that easy, each battle from now just lie about the results and who you have killed. And I mean every commander could shout stuff some dead superior would and what not.
Again I get it what this chapter intended to do. To show us Mouten and his general's potential. But still I hoped for something better then this. Was also too messy and not enough graphic, what was happening. To many panels of battle up close rather than from afar to showcase what exactly is happening
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Part of the problem is that Hara set the standards maybe a little too high with the whole set up leading to these battles and the initial maneuvers inside them.
Makou's death was still lazy and shitty, though.
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The stuff with the morale is too far-fetched anyway. Of course it plays a significant role but trained soldiers will not lose their will to survive and win the battle upon hearing the death of their commander.
It somewhat worked in the scenario with Sai when normal citizens upon seeing and hearing the king were motivated but these guys went through enough shit to continue fighting.
Meh…
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I would have preferred if it was Shin's words that rallied them. I guess this works to stop Zhao's momentum, but what comes next is where Shin and Mouten will be tested.
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The stuff with the morale is too far-fetched anyway. Of course it plays a significant role but trained soldiers will not lose their will to survive and win the battle upon hearing the death of their commander.
It somewhat worked in the scenario with Sai when normal citizens upon seeing and hearing the king were motivated but these guys went through enough shit to continue fighting.
Meh…
But that is nothing new, this concept of morale is part of the manga since the beginning. Losing the commander in chief or losing an army commander nearly all the time meant losing the battle/ battlefront.
An it also was stated that not just Makou was killed but also few other important men of the Makou army.
Chapter is online…
http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/49/534/page/1
Mouten for MVP of the first day… good strategy that still has cost them parts of the makou army...
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@K.:
I would have preferred if it was Shin's words that rallied them. I guess this works to stop Zhao's momentum, but what comes next is where Shin and Mouten will be tested.
I still hoped for some Shin/ Duke Hyou moment "im going to ignite a fire"…
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I really hope Shin gets a chance to shine soon. As it is, right now he's being depicted as all brawn and no brains. He's not even being depicted as a competent leader.
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I really hope Shin gets a chance to shine soon. As it is, right now he's being depicted as all brawn and no brains. He's not even being depicted as a competent leader.
Even though Kingdom is declared as seinen it's pretty much shonen and Shin the typical brawn and no brain. Shin is young, why those Ten not give him Tactic teachings. he doesnt need to be the best one in it, but he needs to make moves that dont risk to lose the whole battle.
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Even though Kingdom is declared as seinen it's pretty much shonen and Shin the typical brawn and no brain. Shin is young, why those Ten not give him Tactic teachings. he doesnt need to be the best one in it, but he needs to make moves that dont risk to lose the whole battle.
I think the problem is that as things currently stand, there's no reason for him to be a general let alone a captain. There's nothing he currently does better than his peers. And as you said, the actions he tries to take are forever risking not just his personal army, but entire battles.
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Ffs, he straight up forgets the entire battle plan in like half an hour. What's more, on top of forgetting, he needs it explained to him all over again. He acted more intelligent in his first ever battlefield, wearing nothing but rags. Where's Shin that sucessfully passed Ouki's test and pacified those 10 tribes in the north of Qin?
He doesn't have to be depicted as an idiot for Kyoukai to look competent.
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I still hoped for some Shin/ Duke Hyou moment "im going to ignite a fire"…
I guess the moment is saved for when his men are there to set the example.
The first day has ended, I need to know the numbers of the surviving men. I find that eventually Shin and his main squad will be similar to Shi Ba Shou, only Shin thinks everyone is there with him already. That's why he is always ready to stand there and fight. Either way, as this was Mou Ten's moment to shine and the Hi Shin Unit was just there for support, I thought it was the author's humor, look at mini Mou Ten as a reminder. I find that Ten not being so quick to grasp things before is fine, if she were at Mou Ten's level, then Mou Ten would have to do something even greater.
The author even shed a bit of light on the type of terrain with the reinforcements coming unnoticed. I wish we would have seen Riboku's vantage point. Next chapter cannot come soon enough. Now that Riboku played his hand, let's see how Ou Sen reacts.
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Cover of the new volume
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Ch535 spoilers
! In summary :
- Yotanwa says she is today in bad mood .
! - Kanki's group talk about horse meat made by maron .lol
! - The news of makou being slain by riboku himself spread to the Qin side .
! - Ouhon says that the death of anyone in the battle will not affect ousen at all since he see them all as mere "pieces".
! - A messenger comes to the left army place , he announces : [Ousen orders]
During this war , Mouten will be given the rank "General" and will be given full authority of the left army .
! - According to ousen , the ones who will ignite a fire in the next day will actually be the right army
! By Traffy-kun from Orojackson
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Please put them in spoiler tabs at least. My eyes can sometimes disobey me.
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! All that is fine and all, but I want to know the numbers. Seems like Ou Sen made Mou Ten general just so Ou Hon would gets upset. Day 2 goes for Qin.
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! @moujane:
! > - Ouhon says that the death of anyone in the battle will not affect ousen at all since he see them all as mere "pieces".
! That is such bullsh*t. He just lost his right-hand man, and his left flank has only barely escaped total destruction (you know, a tiny bit of reinforcement wouldnt have hurt, Ousen) cancelling his one and only strategic move of the day; and this all while fighting outnumbered deep in enemy territory.
But of course its just a “piece”, it wont affect anything, nothing to worry here.
! @K.:
! > Seems like Ou Sen made Mou Ten general just so Ou Hon would gets upset..
! Or it had something to do that Mou Ten has clearly exhibited the most leadership qualities on the whole battlefield that day and safed that wing almost singlehandedly, besides leading the remnants of the Makou army thus gaining their trust while noone else in that army had shown anything comparable (and if Ousen had any other leading officers in reserve, he probably needs them urgently at the center, now that all independent units and probably a lot of manpower as well has been removed from there) -
! @phoenix_fire:
! > Or it had something to do that Mou Ten has clearly exhibited the most leadership qualities on the whole battlefield that day and safed that wing almost singlehandedly, besides leading the remnants of the Makou army thus gaining their trust while noone else in that army had shown anything comparable (and if Ousen had any other leading officers in reserve, he probably needs them urgently at the center, now that all independent units and probably a lot of manpower as well has been removed from there)
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! How else to respond? Its a serious matter after all
! But you are probably also right, it will incite Ouhon to leave a mark on the field as well, especially now with the focus on the right field on the second day. -
! If I were really serious I would imagine that Ou Sen would have made Shin a general, that would have really incited the fire.
! It was just Ou Sen's words about the second day focusing on the right flank. That could even be him thinking about Akou. -
! Ch535: (missing title) link: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5376630445?pn=2 Summary: -As dusk approaches, the battle between the Qin and Zhao mountain folks halted and both return to their respective camps for now. Yontawa is pissed about that battle. -At Kanki’s camp, Kanki and his men are enjoying a horse meat meal outside Gyou, cooked from the horses killed in battle. -Kanki asks his men how they feel about the war on the first day. Raido says that if Riboku or someone approaches with a huge army it would be impossible to them to hold the defensive lines, which Maron agrees. -Over at Ouhon’s camp, the news of Makou’s death and how it happened has been spread around by the officers. While Kanjou thinks that Makou’s death is a big psychological blow to Ousen, Ouhon disagrees as he rebutted that to Ousen, losing Makou is just like losing a pawn and someone from the main army could easily replace him. Ousen is just an emotionless person who keeps his cool and think of his next step to achieve his goal. Kanjou still seem worried as they need a competent commander for the left wing against the troublesome Kisui. -Over at the left wing camp, Makou’s officer thank Mouten for saving them in the battlefield and vowed to avenge Makou tomorrow. -While Makou’s officers are confident that Ousen will send a replacement commander tonight. -(some pages seem to be missing here) -Mouten seem to be rejecting the officers call for him to lead them again the next day as he was just lucky today and with his lack of experience as a general combined with the lack of knowledge of the strength of Makou’s army, it is a dangerous attempt to lead the army against Kisui. -A messenger from the HQ arrives at the camp. -(some pages seem to be missing in the middle) -The messenger continues to read the message, emphasizing that the battle at the left and right wing will affect the result of the entire war. As 5000-men commander does not qualify to command an entire army in this war, Ousen is using his special authority as a commanding general to temporarily promote Mouten to the rank of “General” to take full command of the left wing. -Back in Ousen’s camp, Ousen thinks that Mouten is able to observe the entire battlefield just like Riboku and himself despite his young age. He also predicts that the focus of the second day will be on the right wing where Ouhon is. Credits to 夜之焰痕 from tieba for the Chinese translation. https://magaxking.wordpress.com/2017/10/18/ch535-summary/ Edit: Ouhon is at the right wing, not left
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The new chapter is out. Congratulations Mouten
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Mou Ten was the first one to get there. Shin falling backwards made me laugh, he will probably go all out the next day because he already got beaten by Mou Ten. Ou Sen thinks that the right wing will bring attention, and I am sure it will. But if Mou Ten takes control and Shin is allowed to have his remaining men. Then I wouldn't be surprised that both Batei and Kisui bite the dust.
I liked Naki going with Shin though, even if he remains with his 800~ men, we will surely see some great things. Can we please get the numbers of remaining troops on each side.
Yo Tan Wa is great as always…Heki-bro do your best.
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Fitting that it was Mou Ten that got there first, Shin needs to really awaken as an instinctual general before he gets his promotion. Shin's gag fall was hilarious too :). Good stuff!
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This arc isn't doing any good on Shin.
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Shin's moment to shine will come.
The right side lost 1500 men. Curious to see what the left side results were. Shin is going back to the middle, I wonder what does Ou Sen have planned for him during the second day. All in all, I am expecting one of the generals on the right side to die on Zhao's side. Gakuei is the one I suspect the most.
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I'm completely with you, I need the numbers.
The right side is pretty even, 23,5k vs 26k, with the Qin having lost 4k, mostly from the Gaku'Ei army and the Qin just 1,5k. I would have guessed a highter body countThe left side started with 25k Qin (Akou and Mouten) vs 30 Zhao, but once Shin intervened the Zhaos were already down to 25k but shortly after Akou was killed. I would blindly guess that their numbers should be around 20k. If we go with half of the Akou army being killed during the battle, then its 20k vs 15k (minus the losses of Mouten).
But that leaves an interesting question: If Ousen had shifted further troops to the left, his 38k (including the Hi Shin Unit) would sink even lower, especially if he plans to intervene in some way on his right front, then he would lose at least 8-10k in the center during the second day.
But that leaves him with just half the numbers of the Zhao center (60k, and these bastards are rested). Riboku could simply try to crush the exposed Qin center with weight of numbers, or send the "excess" numbers to the other battlefields. 15k intervening on the left and 15k on the right could easily decide the battle.Obviously we will have a big Qin victory on the second day to even out the numbers and 1 or 2 Zhao generals killed but even then I still believe that the battle will be a draw at best or even lost (but Gyou in the back captured, making it a strategic win for Ousen)
btw, there is a break, so no chapter this week
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I think 10,000 men is the amount of people they lost and Kisui must have lost a similar amount, so I agree. Mainly because the report said failed. It would be hard to believe that they lost between 5-10,000.
I think the main idea is that it is all about the flanks. However, I do assume that if Riboku does not reinforce either side. Then he will charge for the center, that is why Shin was called back. Hi Shin units day to fight will probably be the third? I would have loved if Shin had been stationed in the middle for 2 days without doing anything, he would have been pissed.
Ou Hon has two generals to kill here. I do not want to believe that Akou would lose to Bananaji. Just because I would hope that he is not as expendable as Makou.
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@K.:
I think 10,000 men is the amount of people they lost and Kisui must have lost a similar amount, so I agree. Mainly because the report said failed. It would be hard to believe that they lost between 5-10,000.
I think the main idea is that it is all about the flanks. However, I do assume that if Riboku does not reinforce either side. Then he will charge for the center, that is why Shin was called back. Hi Shin units day to fight will probably be the third? I would have loved if Shin had been stationed in the middle for 2 days without doing anything, he would have been pissed.
Ou Hon has two generals to kill here. I do not want to believe that Akou would lose to Bananaji. Just because I would hope that he is not as expendable as Makou.
Im with you, Akou also getting killed would make Ousens Generals a joke and thats not what i think will happen…
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I'm completely with you, I need the numbers.
The right side is pretty even, 23,5k vs 26k, with the Qin having lost 4k, mostly from the Gaku'Ei army and the Qin just 1,5k. I would have guessed a highter body countThe left side started with 25k Qin (Akou and Mouten) vs 30 Zhao, but once Shin intervened the Zhaos were already down to 25k but shortly after Akou was killed. I would blindly guess that their numbers should be around 20k. If we go with half of the Akou army being killed during the battle, then its 20k vs 15k (minus the losses of Mouten).
But that leaves an interesting question: If Ousen had shifted further troops to the left, his 38k (including the Hi Shin Unit) would sink even lower, especially if he plans to intervene in some way on his right front, then he would lose at least 8-10k in the center during the second day.
But that leaves him with just half the numbers of the Zhao center (60k, and these bastards are rested). Riboku could simply try to crush the exposed Qin center with weight of numbers, or send the "excess" numbers to the other battlefields. 15k intervening on the left and 15k on the right could easily decide the battle.Obviously we will have a big Qin victory on the second day to even out the numbers and 1 or 2 Zhao generals killed but even then I still believe that the battle will be a draw at best or even lost (but Gyou in the back captured, making it a strategic win for Ousen)
btw, there is a break, so no chapter this week
It never made sense for Riboku to kill Makou and not sending reinforcement to Kisui, he has so many more men he could have sent 20000 men to the right Zhao side and crush de Makou Army entirely.
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I must say that the only reason that Riboku was able to move around so freely was because his detachment was small. Even though I suspect the middle to send troops accordingly as soldiers die, sending 20,000 reinforcement is a big number for Ou Sen's scouts not to notice. At the start of the battle, the whole idea of Ou Sen's formation was for Riboku's spies to not be able to recognize the quantity of troops and facilitating moving troops. Makou doing a wave attack allows for the decrease in numbers to be less noticed.
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[http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/50/537/page/1
! So it seems ouhon got his big break true, now its up to shin to prove something similar](http://sensescans.com/reader/read/kingdom/en/50/537/page/1)
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I really don't see Shin pulling off something similiar to this; I guess he will do the usual "shonen willpower push-trough" to kill some important people again, which is really getting stale. After this chapter he really seems to pale in comparison to Ouhon and Mouten in terms of capabilities required for becoming a general, which is a shame. He really needs to expand his move set beyond being a "glorified brawler genius".
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Really cool chapter. My favorite part was when they showed the results of Ou Hon's tactic, the little shot of the entire battlefield. Considering the Akou army, the detachment that has gone to support the Ou Hon's unit will probably start overpowering the right side.
I am assuming that the Zhao commanders will put a fight, but one of them is dead.
In regards to Shin, I think that the situation he will be put will have much higher stakes. The big moment is when Shin deviates from the plan and makes Ou Sen and Riboku have the face of Bananaji this chapter.
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Interesting stuff, lets see hwat awaits ;)
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I really don't see Shin pulling off something similiar to this; I guess he will do the usual "shonen willpower push-trough" to kill some important people again, which is really getting stale. After this chapter he really seems to pale in comparison to Ouhon and Mouten in terms of capabilities required for becoming a general, which is a shame. He really needs to expand his move set beyond being a "glorified brawler genius".
He will push through Ri Bokus Rindou with instinct and you will like it :getlost:
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Ouhons plan was nice, but with the chapter before its kind of a joke. Picturing de Unit like theyre possibly to be wiped out and the reaction of Ouhon is giving the shit job to Banyou and taking the best soldiers with him to the other side of the battlefiled. I know that there is a backup from Akou, but if thats enough to save the Unit without Ouhon or any other good leader i dont buy that the situation in the last chapter was that critical.
But nonetheless the chapter and the drawing and showing off the plan was great work. thats everything that lacked Ribokus killing of Makou…
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I really don't see Shin pulling off something similiar to this; I guess he will do the usual "shonen willpower push-trough" to kill some important people again, which is really getting stale. After this chapter he really seems to pale in comparison to Ouhon and Mouten in terms of capabilities required for becoming a general, which is a shame. He really needs to expand his move set beyond being a "glorified brawler genius".
It makes sense, considering the differences in their upbringing. Shin was a slave in a village who never went to school, while Ouhon and Mouten were surrounded with best teachers most likely, and have been brought up to lead armies. He will probably never be able to think of different strategies like the 2 of them, not until he grows up or any time soon, anyway.
But his instinct is bound to start working properly in this campaign. This is a classic shonen tease before the hero's move makes everyone drop on their asses.