So are we really going to keep discussing about Jinbei's joining in a Supernova thread? Come on guys, focus.
The "Worst Generation / Supernova Discussion Thread
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So are we really going to keep discussing about Jinbei's joining in a Supernova thread? Come on guys, focus.
Well the Straw hat crew is a part of the worst generation and Jinbe is being discussed as potential member of that crew. So its not really off topic.
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No, its off topic. If you want to discuss the crew then go to the strawhat crew theories and prediction thread.
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No, its off topic. If you want to discuss the crew then go to the strawhat crew theories and prediction thread.
Well said.
Sorry.Back on topic…
I predict Law's past coming soon, srsls < u >
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Law's flashback = Law joining the strawhats? :blink:
Nah just kidding. I don't think we'll be getting a full flashback on Law. Maybe just a quick mention of what happened and that's it. Unless its really important to the overall plot like on FI, then I don't think flashbacks will be used for side character development.
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He's starting to become a pretty big character, I wouldn't put it past Oda if we saw a flashback on Law. I'm not sure if now would be the time for it though, with everything being so tense. Flashbacks usually come before or after big events, and it feels like we're just right in it with Luffy being incapacitated and CC showing his true power for the first time.
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No, its off topic. If you want to discuss the crew then go to the strawhat crew theories and prediction thread.
But isn't the crew a part of the worst generation, as well as Blackbeard and the Supernova?
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"Luffy is part of the worst generation, so his crew too, and his not-yet-crewmates too…" If you think like this, soon we'll talk about Shiliew and Impel down.
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Technically, they aren't. The Worst Generation is a term coined to the pirates that caused chaos after the battle at Marineford, something the Strawhats didn't contribute to. They were hidden away from the world, secluded to train for 2 years. They were thought to be gone or dead until the reunion at Sabaody. Luffy's connection to the Worst Generation is the fact that he was part of the Supernovas and is being grouped up with them as they gained infamy. The only thing he did was return to ring the bell. The Worst Generation is mostly a plot device to explain the Supernova's infamy, so that they're 'growing' alongside the Strawhats.
In the continuity, they are part of the Worst Generation. For the sake of discussion, they didn't contribute to the generation's infamy since they spent that time training. They have no place in this thread, really (unless you're talking strictly supernovas)
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Anyway. For the person Law met, my very first thought is that's his father ( ? :"Law I am your father" ) and I think a little flashback is coming about a very little part of Law's past. I don't expect the Big part at least before the end of this arc, maybe if Law leave Punk Hazard with the crew.
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Anyway. For the person Law met, my very first thought is that's his father ( ? :"Law I am your father" ) and I think a little flashback is coming about a very little part of Law's past. I don't expect the Big part at least before the end of this arc, maybe if Law leave Punk Hazard with the crew.
Buki, you are my waifu.
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Seriously.
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I knew I wasn't alone too.
And if I had to make a prediction about him, I think he would look like Shikaku from Naruto with less scars and suit-like clothes. Like a battle casual smoking.Bref. To continue to crack, Do you think Oda is ever going to develop every supernova personnality ?
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I knew I wasn't alone too.
And if I had to make a prediction about him, I think he would look like Shikaku from Naruto with less scars and suit-like clothes. Like a battle casual smoking.Bref. To continue to crack, Do you think Oda is ever going to develop every supernova personnality ?
Or shwing us some parents ?Yea I think Oda will show us some backstory for each of the supernova though they may vary greatly in length with some being as short as Zoro's original back story was. Every single one of them has alluded to having a deeper past and reasoning behind their venture into the grandline or has an interesting aspect of their personality like Apoo's longing for experiences and to find out how tough and admiral is despite knowing he would lose. My own theory on that is that he fits his theme of being a radio broadcaster/ dj so he has some sort of set up on his ship where he can send signals and tell of his adventures and play music.
Other things I am particularly interested in:
- Drake's reasoning for leaving the marines considering that he seemingly enjoyed the thought of being one ever since he was a child.
- The reason that Kidd is so damn crazy as well as how he met Killer.
- Hawkins's goal since he seems so aloof and uncaring about everything, I can't see him dreaming to conquer the new world and be PK.
- Why Urouge left the sky island and whether his power comes from a fruit, life-return or a martial art
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Yea I think Oda will show us some backstory for each of the supernova though they may vary greatly in length with some being as short as Zoro's original back story was. Every single one of them has alluded to having a deeper past and reasoning behind their venture into the grandline or has an interesting aspect of their personality like Apoo's longing for experiences and to find out how tough and admiral is despite knowing he would lose. My own theory on that is that he fits his theme of being a radio broadcaster/ dj so he has some sort of set up on his ship where he can send signals and tell of his adventures and play music.
Other things I am particularly interested in:
- Drake's reasoning for leaving the marines considering that he seemingly enjoyed the thought of being one ever since he was a child.
- The reason that Kidd is so damn crazy as well as how he met Killer.
- Hawkins's goal since he seems so aloof and uncaring about everything, I can't see him dreaming to conquer the new world and be PK.
- Why Urouge left the sky island and whether his power comes from a fruit, life-return or a martial art
And Apoo. Don't forget Apoo.
Looks like a little superstar as a kid XD
Wonder what compelled him to become a pirate? o u o
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And Apoo. Don't forget Apoo.
Looks like a little superstar as a kid XD
Wonder what compelled him to become a pirate? o u oPirate radio. C:
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Pirate radio. C:
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…On Air.
HURP.
what if they actually DO have a pirate radio?
That'd be epic XD
they'd be ON AIR < u > hurp
and also with an airship they'd be ON AIR ON AIR
just don't give em helium
otherwise they'll be ON AIR ON AIR ON AIR
and then Zuko would burst in like 'GTFO MY HONOUR' because he misheard 'ON AIR' as 'HONOUR' cause he's a derpenstein like that... -
And Apoo. Don't forget Apoo.
Looks like a little superstar as a kid XD
Wonder what compelled him to become a pirate? o u o
also curious to see how long he has had his fruit and whether it gave him his voice or notApoo was the main one I addressed in the post. He's my fav. And props to the guy who said pirate radio, thats my thought too lol.
Edit: I'm also a huge fan of your airship for Apoo theory, especially if its got a turntable theme and is a radio broadcasting station.
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Really? Even after what was said about the only way you can survive is to get under the wing of a yonkou or constantly war against one and you think that Drake's attack was to get him in the rankings?
tbh I think he's warring against Kaidou, he's a sensible man…Yeah I'm stupid lol drake who couldn't even beat a pasiifista obviously started off his carrer by atacking a yonkou and survived two years cause you know yonkous aren't the strongest pirates in the entire world and require both the navy and shichibukai to off set them
dude not being under a yonkou or trying to beccome one is 10000000% diffrent then starting of as a rookie and activly atacking them, there's no way, even law says it's crazy to attack them with out a plan, the whole navy and shichibukai are needed to fight one and somehow people think the supernovas will be capable of fighting them by just atacking, drake couldn't survive two years with kaidou actively seeking to destroy him right from the get go
As for Apoo being a subordinate?
Did you REEEAAALLLLYYY just categorise him thereyour right we know so much about him, he's obviously more likely to lead then urouge, I'm not saying he can't be a shichibukai or he's not just that he's less likely in my mind, I'm def not puting the idea out as he's def a canidate still in my mind but what blows me away is you acting like I'm stupid for not agreeing with when the only thing you base it of is, he's loud, he attacked an admiral and he's soooo cool don't act so cocky
@zachri:even saying 'not like the top 5'?
Theyt specificaly keep the top 5 as special group of elites even within the elites
@zachri:You're forgetting that Apoo was 6th, barely a few beri off being 5th
I wasn't basing it off the berries I was basing it of oda specifically keeping those 5 together, it's not by accident that he's making them seem like the top of the supernovas
@zachri:don't underestimate the music man, otherwise I'll constantly have to spam you guys with this:
'Sound travels through water. Every living being is made of water. Therefore sound can travel through people. Whether you can hear it or not that shit could chuff you over if the intentions are there.'Cause science is so relevant in the one piece world
so obviously apoo > then everrybody, by your standards
the only thing I'm completley confident in what i said was the kiadou thing and thjat's because there's no way in hel you survive for two years by attacking kaidou right off the bat, if your gonna say I'm wrong there you have a serious misunderstanding of the story, now if you were going to say something like he atacks his people before they can contact kaidou and tell them who's attacking or maybe trying to get the aid of someone who hates kaidou then maybe I could see that but just going off and fighting a war against a yonkou as a rookie right off the bat is absurd
I do think he has intention to double cross him one day, but maybe haki would make that impossible
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okay after having a nice coffe from dunks taking a walk and having the room to myself I'm seeing this post diffrent, when I first read it it sounds like your almost looking down on anyone who disagrees with you (which I guess in the kiadou section I may be guilty too) the way the wording goes just has me hearing my twelve year old cousin acting like I'm dumb when I say I perfer one manga over another, so if your intent was not to sound all knowing and descending then I apoligize for the rash, aggresive if not somehwt hypocritical way I put this, nothing I say do I believe is set in stone, too many things I've thought were set in stone in one piece and came back to bite me in the ass (the latest one being fishmen won't ever have a devil fruit) so i apoiligize
I agree apoo is loud and bold even attacking an admiral, so the possibility of him being a shichibukai or trying to become a yonkou is definitely high (maybe the highest of the group based off personality) but I definitely see him as being brooks rival, a guy who uses music and is in the long arm tribe I no doubt think they'll have an epic encounter, it's just I can't see brooks rival being a shichibukai unless he's like luffy was to enel, which would be pretty damn cool, but I guess stuff like that doesn't mean much
but hawkings also plays his cards straight, he seems to be extremly powerful, confident and is regularly mentioned in the top 5 which I think is more then just bounty price
but I'll acknowledge that I was just being more defensive there as you could easily be right
the kaidou thing on the other hand I'm not sure of, a yonkou is the top tier there suboridantes have thepowers to burn islands to the ground, it took the netire shichibukai and navy to fight one, drake would need large amounts of allies to fight him and lots more power something I don't think he had when he started of in the new world, as were seeing now even law and luffy aren't invincible right after the time skip, and no one they've encountered is a yonkou yet (unless that's kaidou in the last chapter)
I'll need to be convinced of how he could survive two years when he pissed off a yonkou from the begiining, remember trying to become a yonkou is like what law is doing, making huge plans getting strong allies and something strong enough to give you a chance, actively going up in their face and saying lets do this shit is entirely diffrent (of course luffy's a bit of an idiot)
again I apoligize for the way I phrased it before
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I agree apoo is loud and bold even attacking an admiral, so the possibility of him being a shichibukai or trying to become a yonkou is definitely high (maybe the highest of the group based off personality) but I definitely see him as being brooks rival, a guy who uses music and is in the long arm tribe I no doubt think they'll have an epic encounter, it's just I can't see brooks rival being a shichibukai unless he's like luffy was to enel, which would be pretty damn cool, but I guess stuff like that doesn't mean much
but hawkings also plays his cards straight, he seems to be extremly powerful, confident and is regularly mentioned in the top 5 which I think is more then just bounty price
Whether or not Brook fights Apoo, is dependent on whether or not Apoo is an antagonist.
Brook could also be the one who DEFUSES any conflict with Apoo, considering his TS adventures.With that being said, I would not be disappointed if Hawkins were Shichi instead of Apoo.
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Yeah I'm stupid lol drake who couldn't even beat a pasiifista obviously started off his carrer by atacking a yonkou and survived two years cause you know yonkous aren't the strongest pirates in the entire world and require both the navy and shichibukai to off set them
dude not being under a yonkou or trying to beccome one is 10000000% diffrent then starting of as a rookie and activly atacking them, there's no way, even law says it's crazy to attack them with out a plan, the whole navy and shichibukai are needed to fight one and somehow people think the supernovas will be capable of fighting them by just atacking, drake couldn't survive two years with kaidou actively seeking to destroy him right from the get go
your right we know so much about him, he's obviously more likely to lead then urouge, I'm not saying he can't be a shichibukai or he's not just that he's less likely in my mind, I'm def not puting the idea out as he's def a canidate still in my mind but what blows me away is you acting like I'm stupid for not agreeing with when the only thing you base it of is, he's loud, he attacked an admiral and he's soooo cool don't act so cocky
Theyt specificaly keep the top 5 as special group of elites even within the elites
I wasn't basing it off the berries I was basing it of oda specifically keeping those 5 together, it's not by accident that he's making them seem like the top of the supernovasCause science is so relevant in the one piece world
so obviously apoo > then everrybody, by your standards
the only thing I'm completley confident in what i said was the kiadou thing and thjat's because there's no way in hel you survive for two years by attacking kaidou right off the bat, if your gonna say I'm wrong there you have a serious misunderstanding of the story, now if you were going to say something like he atacks his people before they can contact kaidou and tell them who's attacking or maybe trying to get the aid of someone who hates kaidou then maybe I could see that but just going off and fighting a war against a yonkou as a rookie right off the bat is absurd
I do think he has intention to double cross him one day, but maybe haki would make that impossible
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okay after having a nice coffe from dunks taking a walk and having the room to myself I'm seeing this post diffrent, when I first read it it sounds like your almost looking down on anyone who disagrees with you (which I guess in the kiadou section I may be guilty too) the way the wording goes just has me hearing my twelve year old cousin acting like I'm dumb when I say I perfer one manga over another, so if your intent was not to sound all knowing and descending then I apoligize for the rash, aggresive if not somehwt hypocritical way I put this, nothing I say do I believe is set in stone, too many things I've thought were set in stone in one piece and came back to bite me in the ass (the latest one being fishmen won't ever have a devil fruit) so i apoiligize
I agree apoo is loud and bold even attacking an admiral, so the possibility of him being a shichibukai or trying to become a yonkou is definitely high (maybe the highest of the group based off personality) but I definitely see him as being brooks rival, a guy who uses music and is in the long arm tribe I no doubt think they'll have an epic encounter, it's just I can't see brooks rival being a shichibukai unless he's like luffy was to enel, which would be pretty damn cool, but I guess stuff like that doesn't mean much
but hawkings also plays his cards straight, he seems to be extremly powerful, confident and is regularly mentioned in the top 5 which I think is more then just bounty price
but I'll acknowledge that I was just being more defensive there as you could easily be right
the kaidou thing on the other hand I'm not sure of, a yonkou is the top tier there suboridantes have thepowers to burn islands to the ground, it took the netire shichibukai and navy to fight one, drake would need large amounts of allies to fight him and lots more power something I don't think he had when he started of in the new world, as were seeing now even law and luffy aren't invincible right after the time skip, and no one they've encountered is a yonkou yet (unless that's kaidou in the last chapter)
I'll need to be convinced of how he could survive two years when he pissed off a yonkou from the begiining, remember trying to become a yonkou is like what law is doing, making huge plans getting strong allies and something strong enough to give you a chance, actively going up in their face and saying lets do this shit is entirely diffrent (of course luffy's a bit of an idiot)
again I apoligize for the way I phrased it before
I legit cannot think of how to respond to this really…
tbh it's 8am but still I doubt even at 8PM I'd be able to think of anything
So this is all I shall say - I wasn't talking down on anyone (or at least I didn't have the intentions to do so, if I did then I apologize for thatfeel free to shoot the fangirl), aaaaaand yeah.
you killed my mind @ A @ so many words and I don't even know how to handle this I don't even-
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My poor Zachri, our fangirlings can't stand against rational arguments.
So take this to warm yourself
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My poor Zachri, our fangirlings can't stand against rational arguments.
So take this to warm yourself
! http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5nfw3678d1r26jgqo1_1280.jpg
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My poor Zachri, our fangirlings can't stand against rational arguments.
So take this to warm yourself
! http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5nfw3678d1r26jgqo1_1280.jpg
Lol what do you mean ratinal arguments
the whole point of the post was he boasted stuff like it was fact with out giving even one good argument
in fact I argued his side beter him in that post
here's how the situation went down"
a) I got back from work sat down, too much going on in the damn house
b) I read his arguement and then argue against it that he's being a loud abnoxious fan boy and litteraly gave no good reasoning whatsoever (which is apparently what you thought he had so your on my 'not the brightest' list)
C) go for a walk then drive to get a nice cup of joe
D) come back to empty house reread post and editin my edit I
a: apoligized
b: explained how I could see things his way on the apoo segment
c: gave my 'I'm still in the grey about appoo being a shichibukai'
d: gave why I think it's could be hawkings
e: went on to argue against his drake vs kaidou idea which I still think is ridiculous, but even so I gave a few ways it could be possible (because I was in a very nice mood)
f: apoligized againWhat I want to know is where his reasoning was?
the kaidou one I had reasoning and he just told me your wrong and drakes not like that, and acted like that wins the argument, which it doesn't and neglected why I said drake was for kaidou (again a newbie rookie who can't beat a pacifista actively seeking out to attack an Yonkou and then surviving two years with no protection is the most laughable argument I've seen next to AGOG or juju)
and apo he siad nothing but "yeah right apoo wouldn't do that, sound travels through water the one piece world is filllecd with water and people are made of water so obviously apoo equals strongest character ever no fanboy! which was really a bad argument, so please newbie tell me where the reasoning was, actually who are all you people! I've litteraly never seen any of you before this comment weird
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I'm gonna be decent and put this rant into a small itty bitty box for you guys…
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I'm a girl.
Fangirl.
That's who we are.
Crazy bitches who spout out theories, some of which they can explain some of which they can't and some of which they try to explain but fail epically.
I apologized if I sounded like a douche but then you went and flipped the tables by the look of things.
I forgive you for constantly referring to me as a guy - I'm used to that.
But saying downright that my arguments are 'bad'?
I try my damn best with my arguments.
Sometimes my mind derpswell not really sometimes I mean it derps quite a lot to be honest but that ain't the point
Everyone has moments where their mind is derping and they can't think of the right words.
I have lots of those for your information.
Seriously.
I almost didn't put a gif since I thought that would make things seem not serious, but a gif is required.
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With Drake there are only two possibilities as Law highlighted - he's either at war with Kaidou or he's under his wing. Now it was also mentioned going against a Yonkou would be idiotic without a plan… Drake is a smart guy and he probably does have some kind of plan up his sleeve. he didn't get to Rear Admiral just by being a motherchuffing dinosaur
dinosaurs are cool. He seems to know a fair bit of useful information (e.g. about Vegapunk and the Pacifista), so yeah… there's a possibility he is against Kaidou and has some form of plan. If he ends up being one of his subordinates then so be it, I'm not Hawkins for the love of chuff. -
Obviously I wasn't clear enough - I just said that Apoo wouldn't be a subordinate, but not because of his power, damn it! I'll explain a bit more - Apoo seems like an ambitious guy, and judging by his personality I doubt he'd be a subordinate... yet again, if he ends up being one, then so be it. If he ends up a Shichibukai, then so be it. If he doesn't end up a shichibukai then so be it. I'm. Not. Hawkins.
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Speaking of Hawkins I must agree that he'd be quite good for the role but he's a mysterious guy and it's hard to tell his motives... yet a part of me doesn't really see him in any form of alignment to be honest. I couldn't see him as a subordinate or as a shichibukai. I don't know why. Yet again, if he ends up/doesn't end up as either, then SO. BE. IT.
So the next time you decide to rant and decide to bitch at people just because they have mind derps ever so often and perhaps didn't explain things as best as they could have, don't be a douche, please.
I've even apologized for goodness sake and then you still bitch at me.
Well chuff it.
I don't care.
It's not like it'd affect my life in anyway.
It's not like it'll stop me sleeping at night.
It's not like I could really give enough of a shit.
Heck, I've probably mind derped a lot in this post without really knowing it - so what?
And did you seriously just call someone a newbie... really? You 'rank' people due to their join dates? You judge their intellect on their join date? You believe that the earlier you joined the more knowledgable and apparently 'right' you are? Really? Correct me if I'm mistaken about this by the way, it was just the impression I was getting like you somehow got the impression I was speaking down on you.
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Obviously I wasn't clear enough - I just said that Apoo wouldn't be a subordinate, but not because of his power, damn it! I'll explain a bit more - Apoo seems like an ambitious guy, and judging by his personality I doubt he'd be a subordinate… yet again, if he ends up being one, then so be it. If he ends up a Shichibukai, then so be it. If he doesn't end up a shichibukai then so be it. I'm. Not. Hawkins.
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Speaking of Hawkins I must agree that he'd be quite good for the role but he's a mysterious guy and it's hard to tell his motives… yet a part of me doesn't really see him in any form of alignment to be honest. I couldn't see him as a subordinate or as a shichibukai. I don't know why. Yet again, if he ends up/doesn't end up as either, then SO. BE. IT.
I can't see Apoo being a subordinate either, nor a Shichibukai (although it'd be cool)..His actions at Sabaody made him really interesting how he wanted to stay and check out everyone's power, and really you can't tell if he's in the "Good" or "Bad" group yet, but he seems like he's just there for adventure..Which is why I don't see him as a Shichibukai.
Hawkins on the other hand (to me) fits very well with the mysterious..ness of the Shichibukai, but like many of the Supernovas his motives are unclear at this point..He's definitely not the subordinate type though, or doesn't seem to be.
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and apo he siad nothing but "yeah right apoo wouldn't do that, sound travels through water the one piece world is filllecd with water and people are made of water so obviously apoo equals strongest character ever no fanboy! which was really a bad argument, so please newbie tell me where the reasoning was, actually who are all you people! I've litteraly never seen any of you before this comment weird
As Zachri said also. We're not trying to arguing, we are FANGIRLING, do you know what it means ?
Bref, and the I havent't seen you anywhere comment, is rather useless, even stupid. I don't care if you seen us or not. Next time you''l open your eyes, this thread and "Fan" threads are full of Zachri.Zachri's everywhere.
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I really hope all the remaining Supernovas end up getting as much focus as Law is getting right now, or at least 75% of it.
This includes their goals. Right now, I would say:
Kidd: to be the Pirate King, but through brute strength.
Hawkins: ???
Drake: to oppose the Marines.
Law: to be the Pirate King, but through clever scheming.
Apoo: to be famous and influential, but not necessarily Pirate King.
Killer: to help Kid with his goal, or just kill people.
Bonney: to have material things, like food and money, like a traditional pirate. Oh, and escape the government.
Capone: to be the Pirate King, but through number of subordinates, or maybe just famous and influential like Apoo.
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As Zachri said also. We're not trying to arguing, we are FANGIRLING, do you know what it means ?
Bref, and the I havent't seen you anywhere comment, is rather useless, even stupid. I don't care if you seen us or not. Next time you''l open your eyes, this thread and "Fan" threads are full of Zachri.Zachri's everywhere.
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Well if its Fangirling over my boy Apoo, then I approve.
I know its a popular theory for Apoo to fight Brooke, but I honestly think that it is far more likely that when they meet, Apoo will ask Brooke to join him in a humorous fashion. He's got a DJ theme so he obviously knows most artists with TD records and Soul King is one of the most popular.
Edit: @ King Cannon
Yea I agree completely, these guys are supposed to be rivals so I am hoping for each one to at least have one arc where they encounter the strawhats and interact in some way whether it be as an ally, enemy, or something else. Some might say that would get old but their personalities and powers are different enough to keep things fresh. Also, I have no idea what Hawkins's goal might be either, he does not seem to be a very ambitious individual. -
Now that we know Law has Haki, which other Supernova do you think might have obtained in the past two years?
I think if Drake has it, along with how offensive his Devil Fruit seems to be, it could have made him a force to deal with in the New World.
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I know this might not be a popular oppinion since so many people don't want everyone having haki but I think all of the Supernovas have it to some degree. They would serve as crappy rivals if the strawhats had three people who knew haki yet most of the SN did not.
I know I will probably get flamed for this but Rayleigh did say everyone had the ability to learn the two main types of Haki and these are guys that are straight up determined to make it in the new world where Haki is desperately needed to be able to make it any significant distance and there is no real legitimate reason to not learn it since it can be implemented in every fighting style and greatly strengthens fighting ability. As for how they learn it? Well Drake probably already knew about haki since that was the reason he was a rear-admiral and not a vice-admiral so it is a popular theory that he tracked down Kaidou to learn from him.
Now as for the others, if all the Vice-admirals know haki, there has to be plenty of New world pirates who know it as well. Maybe individuals saw promise in them the same way Rayleigh saw promise in Luffy and taught them. They all tore their ways through the first half of the GL so I wouldn't doubt that they could learn haki in two years if Luffy learned it in one(or was it a year and a half?), especially after the troubles some of them faced upon entering the New World. The only one I can't see being taught by someone is Kidd because of his rather err… strong personallity but it would be a dissappointment if he still couldn't rival luffy. I hope every one of them is a force to deal with in the new world, it would make the race for Pirate King so much more exciting than it already is with Luffy and BB.
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I know this might not be a popular oppinion since so many people don't want everyone having haki but I think all of the Supernovas have it to some degree. They would serve as crappy rivals if the strawhats had three people who knew haki yet most of the SN did not.
I know I will probably get flamed for this but Rayleigh did say everyone had the ability to learn the two main types of Haki and these are guys that are straight up determined to make it in the new world where Haki is desperately needed to be able to make it any significant distance and there is no real legitimate reason to not learn it since it can be implemented in every fighting style and greatly strengthens fighting ability. As for how they learn it? Well Drake probably already knew about haki since that was the reason he was a rear-admiral and not a vice-admiral so it is a popular theory that he tracked down Kaidou to learn from him.
Now as for the others, if all the Vice-admirals know haki, there has to be plenty of New world pirates who know it as well. Maybe individuals saw promise in them the same way Rayleigh saw promise in Luffy and taught them. They all tore their ways through the first half of the GL so I wouldn't doubt that they could learn haki in two years if Luffy learned it in one(or was it a year and a half?), especially after the troubles some of them faced upon entering the New World. The only one I can't see being taught by someone is Kidd because of his rather err… strong personallity but it would be a dissappointment if he still couldn't rival luffy. I hope every one of them is a force to deal with in the new world, it would make the race for Pirate King so much more exciting than it already is with Luffy and BB.
You bring up an interesting point, in who would teach them. It makes me wonder who Taught Law how to use Haki.
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I know this might not be a popular oppinion since so many people don't want everyone having haki but I think all of the Supernovas have it to some degree. They would serve as crappy rivals if the strawhats had three people who knew haki yet most of the SN did not.
No its perfectly reasonable to think that all the Supernovas have haki. In fact they should. Most of the New World fighters seems to have haki. Even Big Mom's subordinate who went to FI had haki. I don't know about people not being happy that everyone has haki but they have to accept it. The prominent people in the New World definitely have haki and that includes people from the "Worst Generation", the ones that wreaked havoc around the world.
I really hope all the remaining Supernovas end up getting as much focus as Law is getting right now, or at least 75% of it.
The reason Law had most of the focus is because he was chosen by Oda to be the person that saves Luffy's life. That skyrocketed his importance in the manga. Also I think Kidd will be the other one who gets the main focus. These 3 people, Law Luffy and Kidd, was foreshadowed to have an epic relationship between each other during the attack of the auction house. Whether it'll be rivals or alliance, those 3 will be the "main characters" compared to the other supernovas.
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Haki is learnable. 'Kings Disposition' is the one where you have to be born with it… some people might be mad because they misunderstand it.
Oh well.
if Apoo put haki into his music then-
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Haki is learnable. 'Kings Disposition' is the one where you have to be born with it… some people might be mad because they misunderstand it.
Oh well.
if Apoo put haki into his music then-
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[/dead]While Kid, Law, Hawkins, Drake, Luffy and BB are the clear stars of the "Worst Generation" I feel like Apoo and Urouge(especially if his fruit makes him stronger the more damage he takes) are the dark horses of the struggle for power. Apoo doesnt seem like the type to flatten a military base and Urouge could still have been getting used to the blue seas or only spent a short time there before he got his bounty. Both of them would be extremely dangerous with Haki, especially Apoo who would may even be able to beat Luffy since he is so easily influenced by hypnotism and music. Though I don't think they would fight beyond Apoo just testing his strength.
By the way I can't really think any supernova's with the charisma/intimidation to have latent CoC Haki, what do you guys think?
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While Kid, Law, Hawkins, Drake, Luffy and BB are the clear stars of the "Worst Generation" I feel like Apoo and Urouge(especially if his fruit makes him stronger the more damage he takes) are the dark horses of the struggle for power. Apoo doesnt seem like the type to flatten a military base and Urouge could still have been getting used to the blue seas or only spent a short time there before he got his bounty. Both of them would be extremely dangerous with Haki, especially Apoo who would may even be able to beat Luffy since he is so easily influenced by hypnotism and music. Though I don't think they would fight beyond Apoo just testing his strength.
By the way I can't really think any supernova's with the charisma/intimidation to have latent CoC Haki, what do you guys think?
I could picture Kid with it. His personality seems like the type. Just to be menacing, determined. Maybe Law with his ambition.
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By the way I can't really think any supernova's with the charisma/intimidation to have latent CoC Haki, what do you guys think?
I am pretty confident that Kid Will hace CoC Haki, he is just so much like Luffy. Law has big chances to have it too, since he is with Kid Luffy's main rival among the Supernovas, but I am not that sure about him. As for the rest…Who knows, but I am pretty confident we will be surprised with someone having Haoshoku who we dont expect, like for example Bege or Urouge. SInce Rayleigh has CoC, if Zoro is going to mirror him he might have it too.
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You have to train for a long-ass time to master Haki, though.
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You have to train for a long-ass time to master Haki, though.
How would ALL of the Supernovae develop those skills over the TS?Practice everyday. Even Luffy hasn't mastered it fully yet.
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My only prediction is that Kid will replace his arms with mechanical ones and that with his abillity he will be able to create much stronger magnetic forces than he used to.
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The 3 strongest Supernova's bounties post-timeskip
1. Eustass Kid(d) 520,000,000 to 540,000,000 (million) beli
2. Monkey D. Luffy 480,000,000 to 500,000,000 (million) beli
3. Trafalgar Law 440,000,000 (million) beli; confirmed!And wait…zachri is...A GIRL!?
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The 3 strongest Supernova's bounties post-timeskip
1. Eustass Kid(d) 520,000,000 to 540,000,000 (million) beli
2. Monkey D. Luffy 480,000,000 to 500,000,000 (million) beli
3. Trafalgar Law 440,000,000 (million) beli; confirmed!And wait…zachri is...A GIRL!? http://i.imgur.com/D3lON.gif
Eh, we tend to have a bias towards those three because of them all happening to be in the auction house. I feel like Drake will have the highest bounty of the 11 because both the threat he would undoubtedly pose towards the marines in terms of inside info since he was a Rear-admiral. He also likely had a head start on learning Haki since that was what would be required for him to learn to earn a promotion.
Also, as to how everyone would learn haki, these guys are the most talented rookies in the world all with strength and drive comparable to Luffy and Zoro, so I am sure they would find a way even if none of their crew has it. Another thing to remember is that the Supernova were originally supposed to appear after the timeskip in the new world as rivals, so it is safe to assume that Oda likely removed some strength and haki when he decided to introduce them earlier.
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Eh, we tend to have a bias towards those three because of them all happening to be in the auction house. I feel like Drake will have the highest bounty of the 11 because both the threat he would undoubtedly pose towards the marines in terms of inside info since he was a Rear-admiral. He also likely had a head start on learning Haki since that was what would be required for him to learn to earn a promotion.
Also, as to how everyone would learn haki, these guys are the most talented rookies in the world all with strength and drive comparable to Luffy and Zoro, so I am sure they would find a way even if none of their crew has it. Another thing to remember is that the Supernova were originally supposed to appear after the timeskip in the new world as rivals, so it is safe to assume that Oda likely removed some strength and haki when he decided to introduce them earlier.
Especially from Apoo, a dead Borsalino would not have been good.
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The 3 strongest Supernova's bounties post-timeskip
1. Eustass Kid(d) 520,000,000 to 540,000,000 (million) beli
2. Monkey D. Luffy 480,000,000 to 500,000,000 (million) beli
3. Trafalgar Law 440,000,000 (million) beli; confirmed!And wait…zachri is...A GIRL!? http://i.imgur.com/D3lON.gif
This amuses me greatly.
Nice prediction but you're forgetting the others and the fact that Luffy got his raised by 100,000,000 pre-timeskip and it appears Law has been laying lowish and got his more than doubled and then became a Shichibukai so it got frozen…
the others could be much higher.
I will have if any of then end up with 696,969,696 < < -
Luffy's bounty is currently 400,000,000, which is a bit lower than Law's, so all bets are off.
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Then again, Law had two years to collect several hearts and creep the bejeesus out of the world, while Luffy's froze at 400 after the marineford events and will probably rise soon due to the events at Sabaody (people knowing he now has haki and can one-shot pacifistas) and soon Punk Hazard (being in an illegal island, and possibly capturing a dangerous criminal).
And even though Law is special in that he saved Luffy's life, I do think other supernovae will have similar things to set them appart. Bonney I can see as being important following her talk with Akainu. I'd say in terms of history, these two and Drake are the ones I'm expecting the most potential from.
I also somewhat wonder why Urouge has the whole fallen angel theme to him and if it will connect in some way to Enel destroying his home island.Kidd I also imagine will have something in his past that made him so goddam crazy and murdery. I'd be inclined to say his past could reflect similar themes as Luffy's past, to make a parallel, but I'm not entirely sure about that because Blackbeard has also demonstrated himself to be a dark mirror of Luffy.
Out of curiosity, btw … does anyone here actually care in any way about Killer? I feel that he's such a bland and uninteresting character, even the fact that Oda just flat-out named him killer instead of trying to use a pirate name like with the others. So it's hard for me to really see him as being anything but a rival for Zoro.
edit: Oh, another point. I really really doubt Hawkins is a shichibukai, simply because I feel that if he was it would have come up when Browngator was talking about his past.
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Out of curiosity, btw … does anyone here actually care in any way about Killer? I feel that he's such a bland and uninteresting character, even the fact that Oda just flat-out named him killer instead of trying to use a pirate name like with the others. So it's hard for me to really see him as being anything but a rival for Zoro.
edit: Oh, another point. I really really doubt Hawkins is a shichibukai, simply because I feel that if he was it would have come up when Browngator was talking about his past.
Killer must have some special power/moves which Oda hasn't shown us yet. Going simply with what we saw in manga before, he's a fearsome combatant and very agile. The fact that Killer being a Supernova even if he does not look like one, makes me curious about his power.
I also feel that Hawkins has a high potential. On the other hand, I have no faith in Capone Bege.
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Then again, Law had two years to collect several hearts and creep the bejeesus out of the world, while Luffy's froze at 400 after the marineford events and will probably rise soon due to the events at Sabaody (people knowing he now has haki and can one-shot pacifistas) and soon Punk Hazard (being in an illegal island, and possibly capturing a dangerous criminal).
And even though Law is special in that he saved Luffy's life, I do think other supernovae will have similar things to set them appart. Bonney I can see as being important following her talk with Akainu. I'd say in terms of history, these two and Drake are the ones I'm expecting the most potential from.
I also somewhat wonder why Urouge has the whole fallen angel theme to him and if it will connect in some way to Enel destroying his home island.Kidd I also imagine will have something in his past that made him so goddam crazy and murdery. I'd be inclined to say his past could reflect similar themes as Luffy's past, to make a parallel, but I'm not entirely sure about that because Blackbeard has also demonstrated himself to be a dark mirror of Luffy.
Out of curiosity, btw … does anyone here actually care in any way about Killer? I feel that he's such a bland and uninteresting character, even the fact that Oda just flat-out named him killer instead of trying to use a pirate name like with the others. So it's hard for me to really see him as being anything but a rival for Zoro.
edit: Oh, another point. I really really doubt Hawkins is a shichibukai, simply because I feel that if he was it would have come up when Browngator was talking about his past.
I think he just wanted to set both crews apart from the rest and set up the rivalry between them.
Like, "look, The Straw Hats are not the only crew notorious enough to have another Supernova apart from the captain"
So I agree there, seems Killer is just there to show the fame of the Kid pirates.
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Or…Killer is Sabo.
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My only prediction is that Kid will replace his arms with mechanical ones and that with his abillity he will be able to create much stronger magnetic forces than he used to.
In his supernova picture it looks like he lost his arms so i am thinking that big mom ate his arms which is why he hates her so much after all she eats her crew mates!