I'm gonna be a pretentious asstwat and say all genres have bad and good sides. There's no genre I hate (at least not on the list).
The Music Genre You HATE
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Name one good pornogrind band. XXX Maniak does not count.
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Zephos, you say you don't get the appeal of having bands play extremely quickly, and yet you say you like Punk, which pretty much consists of that.
1. You misunderstand me. The "virtuoso speed" thing, not the "fast music sounds cool" thing. I DO think Thrash is kind of cool, and that's fast. That's not who or what I'm talking about.
2. Punk isn't really any faster than the average rock, at least not what I listen to. I'm not really into Hardcore Punk if that's what your thinking of. Either way speed has nothing to do with my interest in punk. In fact I like a lot of slower punk. Mission of Burma for instance.
As for death metal, while I prefer clean singing, I don't dislike it. I do like bands like Opeth, Gojira, and others. I'm not sure I like black metal, though. I'm not exactly sure what it consists of to be honest, as compared to other forms of metal.
Neither am I really, I'm as novice as can be.
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I guess speaking of Burzum that is one thing you're going to have to deal with if you're going to try to crack Death Metal. In case you haven't noticed, the heavier the metal gets the less shall we say, "cheery" it tends to be.
Post-Punk bro, not to mention extensive Gangsta/Hardcore rap experience. That's not a problem for me.
If anything the challenge isn't being depressed or scared by them, but to try and take them seriously. Overly dark and gruesome stuff that takes itself dead serious runs a real risk of just being goofy.
Same problem for Gangsta Rap matter of fact. Though I still don't mind it there, which shows this is a bias on my part.From my experience the Death bands I've listened to tend to be populated with a lot of nihilistic and generally pretty awful people (Though I'll admit Death is nowhere close to being my favorite subgenre of metal so I haven't listened to THAT many bands). So if you can put up with a lot of that, and I do mean a lot of it, then you can deal with Death Metal.
Just seems juvenile mostly.
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Name one good pornogrind band. XXX Maniak does not count.
Ah but that's a sub-genre. Like Holy said, sub-genres CAN be sompletely bad.
Nu-Metal, Third Wave Ska, Nerdcore, Yacht Rock…
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What even is Yacht Rock? Pleasedontinvolvetpainpleasedontinvolvetpain.
That said, anyone who can't find something they like in something as general as genre, either doesn't give a shit (which is acceptable) or are deluding themselves (which is purposefully ignorant).
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@Monkey:
Third Wave Ska
I like some Ska Punk bands… :sad:
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THIRD wave.
Not the Elvis Costello Second Wave stuff, the fucking Disney Channel original movie late 90's shit.
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Bullshit.
Third Wave Ska was a big fusion genre movement to try to fit it into these narrow frames of late nineties when music like that, mostly ska-punk or anything withheavy pop or punk influences instead of reggae, soul or funk, received unwelcome presence including as soundtracks to commercials and comedies and whatnot that I practically don't know anything about that.
And as far as I know, Costello didn't have anythingto do with ska music.
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Bullshit.
Third Wave Ska was a big fusion genre movement to try to fit it into these narrow frames of late nineties when music like that, mostly ska-punk or anything withheavy pop or punk influences instead of reggae, soul or funk, received unwelcome presence including as soundtracks to commercials and comedies and whatnot that I practically don't know anything about that.
So…how is this different from what I said.
And as far as I know, Costello didn't have anythingto do with ska music.
Never heard of The Specials huh.
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@Monkey:
So…how is this different from what I said.
I thought you mentioned Third Wave among the completely bad genres and argued against that claim.
@Monkey:
Never heard of The Specials huh.
I did. Why? I don't really remember him playing for or with them. Costello was around at the time of the 2 Tone/Second Ska Wave, but did he have any crossing with the genres of 2 tone, ska or rocksteady? I thought of him more of a pub rock or New Wave guy.
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Costello produced their debut.
And uh yeah, I still maintain Third Wave ska bows ass lol, those things you cast that net over…suck.
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This is my favorite third wave ska song
Followed by this
[hide]While I admit there is quite a bit of bad stuff in the genre there are some gems.
And wasn't Costello more of a New Wave person? I don't really know. The Specials were Two-Tone ska too I think.
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Metalcore is the only genre I really hate. I don't love a lot of them, but metalcore is the only one I can't stomach.
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This is my favorite third wave ska song
Followed by this
[hide]While I admit there is quite a bit of bad stuff in the genre there are some gems.
And wasn't Costello more of a New Wave person? I don't really know. The Specials were Two-Tone ska too I think.
I also love Streetlight Manifesto , can't see anything really wrong with that group
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@metteminne:
I also love Streetlight Manifesto , can't see anything really wrong with that group
Being Third Wave Ska is a strike against them.
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I've always said that I've pretty much liked every genre ever. Metal is probably the one I have the weakest relationship with, but honestly…
Dubstub. I 99% hate dubsteb.
I can finally hate something.
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I hate it's FANS anyway, bunch of annoying people who don't give a shit about anything else dance or electronic. The Nerdcore fans of Dance music. Gross.
As for the actual music….pretty indifferent to Electronic music that sounds like that myself (see also whatever the Prodigy is).
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I definitely used to hate country, but I started listening to Hank Williams, then kept looking for people that were not in the 'pop country' vein. I tend to appreciate it more now.
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If you guys are talking about dubstep like Skillex, so many people say that's not real dubstep. I don't know the difference between it or other kinds of electronic music so I can only post stuff others have linked for me. This is apparently dubstep, but doesn't sound much like what Skrillex does.
I need to listen to all the different types of electronic music.
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There are two different types of dubstep for the record and whenever people complain about dubstep, what they're really complaining about is brostep which is an Americanised variation that puts emphasis on different elements to make a boring club sound.
The original dubstep was derived from 2-step music's irregular rhythms and, oh I don't know there was kind of a
DUB influence.
Remember dub
It was the original form of DJing from Jamaica where reggae was stripped of its vocals and they would extend its grooves and beat patterns.
Dub music is basically instrumental reggae music.
it's not like dubstep sounded exactly like an evolution directly of dub music, but the influence was there.
Actual dubstep is heavier on atmosphere in its irregular rhythms, or lower frequencies, but it's significantly more minimal and "quiet" in comparison to like Skrillex stuff.
Burial was probably the most significant and unique entity in dubstep and his stuff was "spookier" and more urbane. you could fall asleep to it, or maybe creep yourself out at night if you wore headphones and took late walks. But Burial is one of those guys who kind of had his own spin on things.
Most other dubstep artists were like Boxcutter or Digital Mystikz who had more definable roots and sounded pretty 2-steppy.
Introductory dubstep 101
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@Monkey:
I hate it's FANS anyway, bunch of annoying people who don't give a shit about anything else dance or electronic. The Nerdcore fans of Dance music. Gross.
As for the actual music….pretty indifferent to Electronic music that sounds like that myself (see also whatever the Prodigy is).
My thoughts exactly. Also I fucking HATE new country if only for the most part it sounds the fucking same and all of the singers that basically look like models models that seem like they have no personality. Add in the fact that most of their songs have no meaning behind it and are basically made to try to get to the top of the charts adds to my hatred for it.
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@Monkey:
I hate it's FANS anyway, bunch of annoying people who don't give a shit about anything else dance or electronic. The Nerdcore fans of Dance music. Gross.
As for the actual music….pretty indifferent to Electronic music that sounds like that myself (see also whatever the Prodigy is).
Agreed on the dubstep thing. That's the only instance where I can say it's popularity ruined the genre for me. I still love a lot of dubstep, but not the current trend that dubstep must have the biggest drop and deepest bassline possible. Also not liking the fact that many pop songs now have a 'dubstep part' in them, like it's a necessity, which completely breaks the flow of the song.
Prodigy is mostly big beat, although they have touched upon many genres. They even appeared on 'Rock am Ring' in Germany for whatever reason, probably because they have a hint of punk in them. I like big beat myself, like the Chemical Brothers, but I couldn't listen to it for days. -
@Monkey:
Being Third Wave Ska is a strike against them.
Anything else besides that ?
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Also not liking the fact that many pop songs now have a 'dubstep part' in them, like it's a necessity, which completely breaks the flow of the song.
Like the songs that have an acoustic singing part (usually by a woman) and then goes into a rap for some god forsaken reason. I don't mind mixing genres like that but they don't seem to flow at all and it's really jarring.
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Dubstep is something you can listing to at a party for 10 minutes and then you should get bored of it really. Never enjoyed it like other people of my age do/did .
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That's the thing though. Like Holy said, the stuff you're talking about isn't "actual" dubstep. It's some sort of bastardization of what it originally was.
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@The:
There are two different types of dubstep for the record and whenever people complain about dubstep, what they're really complaining about is brostep which is an Americanised variation that puts emphasis on different elements to make a boring club sound.
The original dubstep was derived from 2-step music's irregular rhythms and, oh I don't know there was kind of a
DUB influence.
Remember dub
It was the original form of DJing from Jamaica where reggae was stripped of its vocals and they would extend its grooves and beat patterns.
Dub music is basically instrumental reggae music.
it's not like dubstep sounded exactly like an evolution directly of dub music, but the influence was there.
Actual dubstep is heavier on atmosphere in its irregular rhythms, or lower frequencies, but it's significantly more minimal and "quiet" in comparison to like Skrillex stuff.
Burial was probably the most significant and unique entity in dubstep and his stuff was "spookier" and more urbane. you could fall asleep to it, or maybe creep yourself out at night if you wore headphones and took late walks. But Burial is one of those guys who kind of had his own spin on things.
Most other dubstep artists were like Boxcutter or Digital Mystikz who had more definable roots and sounded pretty 2-steppy.
Introductory dubstep 101
I actually really really like Dub, so I was kind of wondering about the whole "how the fuck is this dub related thing" lol. I've seen that Burial album lauded lots of places, and I can see the dub influence for once!
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Like the songs that have an acoustic singing part (usually by a woman) and then goes into a rap for some god forsaken reason. I don't mind mixing genres like that but they don't seem to flow at all and it's really jarring.
What combo exactly? Singing and rapping don't go together how?
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I can't name any songs right now but think of something like Adele. I don't particularly like her but she does that solo singing thing. But then there are other songs that start out like an Adele song and then all of a sudden out of nowhere it goes from that soft singing to someone rapping and it just seems off somehow to me.
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I can't name any songs right now but think of something like Adele. I don't particularly like her but she does that solo singing thing. But then there are other songs that start out like an Adele song and then all of a sudden out of nowhere it goes from that soft singing to someone rapping and it just seems off somehow to me.
I agree it's become a badly done overdone cliche by this point, but you're talking like rap is inherently hard or something. As if it could never mix with softer stuff. Not that I'd exactly call Adele soft.
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It probably could be done well but what I'm saying is that what I've heard isn't done well . I have heard a song with a woman singing in English and then a man rapping in Russian which I thought was pretty cool but i can't find the video again :sad: .
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Maybe I don't hate dub or dubstep, but I'm certainly hating whatever this new thing is that everyone calls dubsteb. I get nothing from it. No emotion. No feeling. I feel like my mother: it's just noise. I don't even know how to dance to this.
I can't name any songs right now but think of something like Adele. I don't particularly like her but she does that solo singing thing. But then there are other songs that start out like an Adele song and then all of a sudden out of nowhere it goes from that soft singing to someone rapping and it just seems off somehow to me.
Something like this?
Yeah, I'm guilty of liking this song.
But honestly, this is common. Not Flo Rida, just smooth music chorus mixing with rap. Do you have issues with the rap, or issues with the singer?
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It could be because I don't like most rap I hear but the combination of them just doesn't click with me.
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Nah, I think I get what he means. It's a mainly smooth music song that has a random chorus of rap. I've heard that a couple times.
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Yeah, but smooth and slow choruses have been in plenty of rap songs for a long time. Even without female or guest singers.
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I have to admit though, there has been a huge trend of male rappers with guest female singers, or female singers with guest male rappers. And the quality has very much varied. Hell, I can't even believe Taylor Swift/B.O.B. is a thing that happened (haven't fully heard the song yet though).
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Yeah, but smooth and slow choruses have been in plenty of rap songs for a long time. Even without female or guest singers.
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I have to admit though, there has been a huge trend of male rappers with guest female singers, or female singers with guest male rappers. And the quality has very much varied. Hell, I can't even believe Taylor Swift/B.O.B. is a thing that happened (haven't fully heard the song yet though).
See, what you first mention is way different than what I'm thinking of. Taylor Swift/B.O.B. is closer.
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True. I can't think of many examples of that female singer/male rapper combo off the top of my head that's absolutely awesome.
Except Stan with Eminem and Dido, although I think that's a very different case as well.
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True. I can't think of many examples of that female singer/male rapper combo off the top of my head that's absolutely awesome.
Except Stan with Eminem and Dido, although I think that's a very different case as well.
There are lots of rap songs with sung choruses, women or men. That's almost as old as rap itself.
I'm really boggled that people see it as oil and water, hip-hip is the most flexible genre of them all, partly because of sampling, but also because the fundamentals are so basic.
Rock pretty much has to have guitar. Electronic has to have electronics. Most genres can be said to be based on the instruments to some degree.
But hip-hop…well you can rap over anything. You don't need a DJ, turntables, samples, you don't even need more than yourself when you pare it down to the most naked thing possible. You could probably even classify beat boxing as hip-hop, and that's just a dude making sounds into his hands lol. -
True. I can't think of many examples of that female singer/male rapper combo off the top of my head that's absolutely awesome.
Except Stan with Eminem and Dido, although I think that's a very different case as well.
^hell it doesn't even have to be mainsteam^
There's tons of great rapper/female singers collaborations. Rap is a lot more versatile than lot's of people give it credit for.
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I dislike no genre really. Though, I dislike at least 1 song in every genre I've listened to–I'll give any song a listen or 2 before I pass judgement.
But...if I had to pick a genre...I'd say country. I seem to dislike more country songs then any other genre. Because I don't care about tractors, or bloodhounds getting hit by cars, or if my cowboy hat is sitting on my head properly etc. etc; yes...I went there with the stereotype.
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I'm not doubting hip-hop or rap. I just couldn't think of an example at the time. Sorry.
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I'm not doubting hip-hop or rap. I just couldn't think of an example at the time. Sorry.
Nah I get a little over excited when talking about hip hop, lol. I don't want to sound like I was talking down to you or anything.
As for this thread, seeing as how I'm pretty inexperienced with music as a whole other than Hip Hop I'm not sure. I guess I don't really like Crunk or Nerdcore, and whatever type of hip hop Canibus falls into. Basically I don't really care for Conspiracy theory type rap, barring a few acts like Dead Prez. And yes I know conspiracy rap isn't a subgenre, I guess I'm mostly attacking subject matter.
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I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe what I'm gonna say has been brought up before, but… whatever :P.
Anyway, I don't think I hate any genre completely. In my opinion there are nice artists and/or songs in every type of music; you just have to come across them somehow (which understandably doesn't happen if you're not really looking for them anyway in genre's you're not too fond of). Of course there are quite some genre's that are generally not my favorite and it's true that I don't like most of the music in those genre's, but I've always found that there are at least a few artists or songs that I really do like - even in those genre's. Something I don't like most of the time (from the list above) is electronic music, but even though that's the case there are still some electronic songs that I actually find really awesome.
Although, maybe if you're gonna narrow everything down to smaller subgenre's, then I guess there are some things I don't like at all. Most notably black metal, death metal and other stuff with growling, screaming or otherwise distorted vocals (even some opera songs or stuff like that, where some women sing so high that it's almost not singing anymore). And also some really bad music from my own country with lyrics so absolutely lame that there just are no words to describe how terrible they are.
Something that always surprises me, by the way, is the huge amount of hate that there seems to be for country music. I never really understood why so many people find country so unlikeable. It's not that different from some other styles that seem to be much less hated; and it's also quite diverse, so while you might not like some of it, there are plenty of styles within the country genre that are radically different.
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For all the people saying death and black metal because of the vocals, I felt that way at first too but it eventually just got easier to listen to to the point of me being able to enjoy it. I think that black metal however can be less abrasive than death metal and for me it's better.
For example:
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This is on the heavier end of black metal and is called tongue in cheek as "trve" or "kvlt" It is kind of hard to listen to even for me just because of how much of a wall of sound it is.[/hide]But
[hide]There are more atmospheric and experimental black metal that is less about assaulting your ears and m ore about setting a mood. This is my personal favorite black metal band right now:
Here's another song by another band. I don't even know if there's any vocals in this song at all .
So yeah, if you want to get into black or death metal you could just try listening to it every once in awhile and it might grow on you like it did to me.
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I've never understood the hate for black and death vocals. I took to them immediately. I dove into dudes like Emperor when I had just started listening to Black Sabbath for the first time, haha. And that was right after I got into Jimi and Zeppelin, too. I always tell people that vocals are another instrument and both growling and screaming are different tones and tunings. Imagine hearing sung melodic vocals in death metal. It's like sticking a flute section in a punk band. Granted it can work in the right hands (Opeth), it mostly sounds awkward and inconsistent.
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For all the people saying death and black metal because of the vocals, I felt that way at first too but it eventually just got easier to listen to to the point of me being able to enjoy it. I think that black metal however can be less abrasive than death metal and for me it's better.
For example:
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This is on the heavier end of black metal and is called tongue in cheek as "trve" or "kvlt" It is kind of hard to listen to even for me just because of how much of a wall of sound it is.[/hide]But
[hide]There are more atmospheric and experimental black metal that is less about assaulting your ears and m ore about setting a mood. This is my personal favorite black metal band right now:
Here's another song by another band. I don't even know if there's any vocals in this song at all .
So yeah, if you want to get into black or death metal you could just try listening to it every once in awhile and it might grow on you like it did to me.
I've never been that much a fan of PURE death metal or PURE black metal; the vocals can be too harsh for me, and their lyrics make me feel like a serial killer (not really). However, I really like subgenre(s) of the two: Melodic death metal and melodic black metal, symphonic black metal and symphonic death metal etc. I like more PURE death metal over PURE black metal though; I can stand it for longer.
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Death metal is incredibly tongue and cheek about the gore thing. Gore in death metal draws attention to the very absurdity of violence while also acting as an outlet for or morbid curiosities and pent-up aggressions. Pure black metal is a lot more serious about its lyrical content, which is very much punk-turned-conservative in nature. For either of them, it's hard to pay attention to what they're specifically saying and they express their statements more through their sonic assaults.
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Not to mention that there's plenty of death and black metal (black metal at least, it might be harder to find death metal like this) that talks about nature and stuff like that. If you haven't, try listening to Gojira, their songs talk about the environment and global warming and stuff. I don't know if I've ever listened to a black metal band that talked about murder and stuff actually.
Edit: And to feel like you said you do you'd have to understand the lyrics anyway, which would most likely mean you're looking them up. Just stop doing that :P .
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Has Bieber's voice dropped yet? If he so much as makes another godamn album I'll CASTRATE HIM IN HIS SLEEP!!!
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Has Bieber's voice dropped yet? If he so much as makes another godamn album I'll CASTRATE HIM IN HIS SLEEP!!!
The kid receives widespread vitriol about himself on a personal level with comments fueled by homophobia and general crassness on a daily basis and there is no way he isn't aware of it
He got booed at a basketball game once just for being there and watching it
Do people really need to think about him all the time so negatively just for existing