I know it's probably stupid but was anyone else upset that sanji had to use DJ while zoro could kill the pacifista in his base form?
other opinions I doubt those two brothers could beat a pacifista that would mean they were stronger than luffy's entire crew when they got their or urouge drake etc.
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I know it's probably stupid but was anyone else upset that sanji had to use DJ while zoro could kill the pacifista in his base form?
other opinions I doubt those two brothers could beat a pacifista that would mean they were stronger than luffy's entire crew when they got their or urouge drake etc.
Sanji's a bitch. get over it.
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I know it's probably stupid but was anyone else upset that sanji had to use DJ while zoro could kill the pacifista in his base form?
other opinions I doubt those two brothers could beat a pacifista that would mean they were stronger than luffy's entire crew when they got their or urouge drake etc.
Luffy that loser had to use gear 2… And I'm dissapointed that Zoro used all 3 swords! 1 would be more epic. BTW ASura is an illusion and not power boosting the stats. or dou you even saw him using it all the time as Luffy his Gear 2 or Sanji is DJ?
Really the Sanji hate is uncool... gear 2 Luffy is OK but DJ Sanji is not
I know it's probably stupid but was anyone else upset that sanji had to use DJ while zoro could kill the pacifista in his base form?
Zoro's 'base form'? If he really has one, I think that'd be using just one sword.
Sanji is cool and Strong.
But Zoro is stronger than Sanji I think.
Sry. I like Sanji… But I like Zoro better.
I agree. Maybe Oda wanted to one-up all the people who originally said Zoro had only one arm? :P
Really why Gear 2 Luffy is OK and no one is saying… I'm dissapointed that Luffy had to use Gear 2 but Zoro not his Asura, who is just a one hit techniquw and nothing similar to DJ and Gear 2
Obviously it isn't the case that Pacifista are complete fodder, as in the monster trio can't just destroy them in their sleep. It doesn't take much effort to defeat them, but it does take effort. Hence Luffy going G2, Sanji using DJ, and Zoro using all three swords.
So what if they're leaving? That doesn't mean something can't happen that would require the Strawhats to take care of the brothers. It would be a good way to showcase some of the lesser Strawhats new found skills as well. Also, what exactly are you trying to say with "a Pacifista is far more impressive?" The lesser Strawhats didn't take one the Pacifista so I don't see why that's important.
I agree with this sentiment I think people want the monster trio to stay weak. They shouldn't have improved after being defeated and trained by some of the strongest people in the Op world. Nor should they be able to keep up in the new world.
Really why Gear 2 Luffy is OK and no one is saying… I'm dissapointed that Luffy had to use Gear 2 but Zoro not his Asura, who is just a one hit techniquw and nothing similar to DJ and Gear 2
Like you said, Asura was an illusion based move, no?
Luffy and Sanji using Gear 2 and DJ is them going all out….I seriously think Zoro using all three of his swords is him going all out, but to a lesser extent.
(You don't see Zoro using Asura a lot when it doesn't boost his power.)
Of course....the Monster Trio beating the Pacifista effortlessly kind of contradicts my point…...
So Luffy only activated 2nd gear on his arm?
Or am I just seeing things.
Because I thought to activate 2nd gear he'd pump blood, wouldn't the blood flow into the rest of his body?
People still don't get and reading the Asura wiki article, were they are saying his power is trippled xD
It is an illusion and part of certain powerful attacks. Not like DJ or Gear 2. Or do you have seen him stay longer in this form as for one move. Read Databook Yellow
And even if Ssnji and Luffy ised DJ and Gear 2. Have they used their most powerful attacks with it? No
Sanji's a bitch. get over it.
sanji's awesome one of my fav straw hats
Luffy that loser had to use gear 2… And I'm dissapointed that Zoro used all 3 swords! 1 would be more epic. BTW ASura is an illusion and not power boosting the stats. or dou you even saw him using it all the time as Luffy his Gear 2 or Sanji is DJ?
Really the Sanji hate is uncool... gear 2 Luffy is OK but DJ Sanji is not
I'm sure asura makes him stronger or did not read the fight between him and kaku and why the hell would he use it if it just makes an illusion it clearly helps cut things, and why am I fine with luffy doing that but not sanji, well I'm fine with both to be honest but it was mainly because sanji and zoro were always considered rivals on close to equal plains, i just thought it would have been cooler if he only kicked him in his normal state is that so bad?
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How do people know what move sanji did when he did same the name of his attack ?
I'm sure asura makes him stronger or did not read the fight between him and kaku and why the hell would he use it if it just makes an illusion it clearly helps cut things, and why am I fine with luffy doing that but not sanji, well I'm fine with both to be honest but it was mainly because sanji and zoro were always considered rivals on close to equal plains, i just thought it would have been cooler if he only kicked him in his normal state is that so bad?
Ashura is just an illusion, it doesn't really boost Zoro's power or anything. The strength of Ashura lies in the fact that it basically gives Zoro the chance to land a clean hit on his enemy, and in a sword fight one clean move usually decides the victor.
sanji's awesome one of my fav straw hats
I'm sure asura makes him stronger or did not read the fight between him and kaku and why the hell would he use it if it just makes an illusion it clearly helps cut things, and why am I fine with luffy doing that but not sanji, well I'm fine with both to be honest but it was mainly because sanji and zoro were always considered rivals on close to equal plains, i just thought it would have been cooler if he only kicked him in his normal state is that so bad?
Cuz Asura is totally confusing the opponent and you can't read the swordsplay. Illusion is not like DJ and Gear 2. Please read Databook yellow and now Shittypedia
But yeah it is OK for Luffy to go into Gear 2 but not for Sanji that much… That double standard...
But probably a no name DJ kick and a jet pistol are the strongest moves of Sanji and Luffy... even after 2 years
An illusion?
I'm fairly positive that it isn't an illusion, maybe I can roll with "He makes illusions come true", but there's no way in hell those 6 extra slashes don't exist and are there just for show
Don't bs, Kishido
Edit: Where have you guys read this? Who told you this?
How do people know what move sanji did when he did same the name of his attack ?
His leg was on fire. That's Diable Jambe
People still don't get and reading the Asura wiki article, were they are saying his power is trippled xD
It is an illusion and part of certain powerful attacks. Not like DJ or Gear 2. Or do you have seen him stay longer in this form as for one move. Read Databook Yellow
And even if Ssnji and Luffy ised DJ and Gear 2. Have they used their most powerful attacks with it? No
lol i'm sure it's an illusion but to say it does nothing is stupid reasoning zoro wouldn't have been able to turn kaku's attack into mist or cut a pacifista like that back before the time skip without it, where can I read this yellow book does it specifically say it doesn't increase power? or is that you just summing things up
and if so what's the point of it?
lol did he say it's only used to confuse opponents or are you just thinking this cause read illusion gives us the source
and it's not wikipedia it's just common reasoning
What is Sanjis strongest attack?
Anti-Manner-Kick-Course?
An illusion?
I'm fairly positive that it isn't an illusion, maybe I can roll with "He makes illusions come true", but there's no way in hell those 6 extra slashes don't exist and are there just for showDon't bs, Kishido
Edit: Where have you guys read this? Who told you this?
DATABOOK YELLOW
But yeah Zoro can just create the same swords and is Robin².
OK so why 2 years ago Zoro first used the pund canon but Luffy and Zoro Gear 2 and DJ?
Why his Sanzen Senkai is still an Ougi if Ashura is stronger?
For all we know, Sanji might have a whole set of new moves that are much more powerful than DJ
What is Sanjis strongest attack?
Anti-Manner-Kick-Course?
I just grabbed Databook Yellow… Do you mean Page 41? But there is only a small text to Asura (altough my Databook Yellow is in German, so what does it says in english
An illusion?
I'm fairly positive that it isn't an illusion, maybe I can roll with "He makes illusions come true", but there's no way in hell those 6 extra slashes don't exist and are there just for showDon't bs, Kishido
Edit: Where have you guys read this? Who told you this?
If it wasn't an illusion, then are you saying Zoro can actually grow limbs? I think it does power him up in the sense that his aura gets stronger. So strong that people start to see things. Like Like that Ebi Mayo onigiri he did in Enies Lobby.
And were asking you where we can read it
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If it wasn't an illusion, then are you saying Zoro can actually grow limbs? I think it does power him up in the sense that his aura gets stronger. So strong that people start to see things. Like Like that Ebi Mayo onigiri he did in Enies Lobby.
I agree that it's an illusion but I'm saying it somehow powers him up, or was this to confuse the opponent as Kishido says
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2617-19/one-piece/chapter-510.html
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lol I've tried I can't find them anywhere, I've wanted it for a long time
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If it wasn't an illusion, then are you saying Zoro can actually grow limbs? I think it does power him up in the sense that his aura gets stronger. So strong that people start to see things. Like Like that Ebi Mayo onigiri he did in Enies Lobby.
No Zoro will now create swords for Nami than she can sale them.
It's possible that Ashura involves Haki and it powers up his attacks that way or something. But Ashura itself is an illusion, and it's main advantage comes from being able to land an almost guaranteed attack on the enemy.
No Zoro will now create swords for Nami than she can sale them.
Then he can finally pay off that debt to her~
Asura is Zoro building up his demon aura. The appearance of 3 Zoros is just a side effect…
Kishido: CAn you give me the page in the Yellow Databook?
I have it right in my hand but I can only find 2 sentences. That basically say: Enemy encounters 3 headed demon, enemy scared.
I understand Asura in the sense that he focuses his inner Demon. I always picture something like Kame-Hame… ;D
I agree that it's an illusion but I'm saying it somehow powers him up, or was this to confuse the opponent as Kishido says
http://www.mangareader.net/103-2617-19/one-piece/chapter-510.html
lol I've tried I can't find them anywhere, I've wanted it for a long time
Why not… Do you think a PX can't be confused? He can still react to attacks... And if he can't read them Zoro can land a really clean hit with all 3 swords.. Same as his Ougi Sanzen Senkai.
But he isn't growing body parts or something like that which boost his power x 3
Then he can finally pay off that debt to her~
Asura is Zoro building up his demon aura. The appearance of 3 Zoros is just a side effect…
I'm fine with that if it's true, I figured he releases haki when in that form or something when in this form I didn't actually think he grew arms and identical swords
Why not… Do you think a PX can't be confused? He can still react to attacks... And if he can't read them Zoro can land a really clean hit with all 3 swords.. Same as his Ougi Sanzen Senkai.
But he isn't growing body parts or something like that which boost his power x 3
why would he need to confuse a pacifista was it said it's only use was to confuse people give me the direct quote from the yellow book
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what IS the technique Zoro used? The final posture is different from all the techniques I have ever seen him perform.
I'm fine with that if it's true, I figured he releases haki when in that form or something when in this form I didn't actually think he grew arms and identical swords
Well OK I can't find it anymore on the interweb, but it was translated from the japanese one as far as I remember and it is much more logical than the boosting the power x 3
But still. Even if Ashura powers him up a little for one attack… It is still completly different to DJ and Gear 2. It is a move specific power up. Gear 2 and DJ are like power boosting stats which you can use for a long period of time.
Points stays still. Even if Sanji used DJ or Luffy Gear 2. Did they used their best move?
I would say: Sanji used the strongest of his pre-timeskip moves.
By the looks and the place he hit it was Diable JAmbe Flambage (used first time against to finish Jyabura) and I would say that was the strongest kick he had.
Luffy certainly didn't (even pre-timeskip he had a lot stronger attacks. it looks like he used Jet pistol.)
Well OK I can't find it anymore on the interweb, but it was translated from the japanese one as far as I remember and it is much more logical than the boosting the power x 3
But still. Even if Ashura powers him up a little for one attack… It is still completly different to DJ and Gear 2. It is move specific power up. Gear 2 and DJ are like power boosting stats which you can use for a long period of time.
okay agreed good
Points stays still. Even if Sanji used DJ or Luffy Gear 2. Did they used their best move?
lol i never said they used their best moves, I doubt those are even a tenth of what they can do when they use their full power with their most powerful attacks
and I think luffy may have more gears but this just a fan made prediction
plus since they made them instantly it could mean if they went about their regular procedures/stance it would be a lot stronger, who knows
anyways I can't wait to see them in a real battle now
I would say: Sanji used the strongest of his pre-timeskip moves.
By the looks and the place he hit it was Diable JAmbe Flambage (used first time against Jyabura) and I would say that was the strongest kick he had.
I think a the attack he used to reflect a fully stretched Oars Bazooka was much more powerful
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what IS the technique Zoro used? The final posture is different from all the techniques I have ever seen him perform.
It was likely 3000 Worlds. The only change was that the swords' directions were inverted and that doesn't really make it a different move.
It'd be like calling Gomu Gomu Whip two separate things depending on what leg was used by Luffy. 
You're stupid.
Really harsh… xD
It was likely 3000 Worlds. The only change really was that the swords' directions were inverted and that doesn't really make it a different move.
It'd be like calling Gomu Gomu Whip two separate things depending on what leg was used by Luffy.
Probably and it is one of his strongest attacks
Well OK I can't find it anymore on the interweb, but it was translated from the japanese one as far as I remember and it is much more logical than the boosting the power x 3
But still. Even if Ashura powers him up a little for one attack… It is still completly different to DJ and Gear 2. It is a move specific power up. Gear 2 and DJ are like power boosting stats which you can use for a long period of time.
Points stays still. Even if Sanji used DJ or Luffy Gear 2. Did they used their best move?
I'm pretty sure that Ashura is a form since he has multiple moves under that style. He obviously gets stronger when he uses it.
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Zoro's used two different moves while going into the stance for Asura actually_:_ One Mist Silver against Kaku and Nine Demon Flash against the Pacifista.
WONDERFULL CHAPTER :D :D
Have been waiting so long for luffy to finally own everyone in his path again :D
Really missed that :)
So why he never used besided for one attack? Not as Luffy and Sanji… but maybe in the future
He hasn't used his gorilla arms either, even though that one is clearly a power up. I think Zoro's power ups require more concentration than Luffy or Sanji who just pump or spin themselves.
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If this sort of thing is given as the explanation, I'll accept it. It'd be wrong biologically, but at least it means Oda would have thought about it and came up with a half-plausible concept. Any blood going into 1 part of the body has to come from other parts of the body at that same rate. Which means whole body blood pumping. Pretty much what semil said at the start of that quoted bit.
My issue isn't with partial Gear Second as a whole, although that concept itself is a bit silly. It's that at the moment we don't have the facts to understand it against the backing of what we know about how Gear Second actually functions, and my worry that we may not get an explanation.
Scientifically, you are right and partial gear 2nd is simply impossible. Regardless of whatever speeding up/slowing down/constricting blood flow method, the end result is that there is going to be huge lack of blood in other areas of Luffy's body. Looking at his frame, I estimate him around 160 lbs which would be an average of 5 litres of blood in his body. Deprived of blood carrying oxygen, Luffy's brain would cease to function in less than half a minute.
But why kill yourself over needing a logical explanation? You could also say that Gear 3 is rubbish. Imagine slapping someone with a deflated balloon. Not much damage. Blow up the balloon and tie the end. Slap someone with it. Won't hurt much would it? Force = Mass x Acceleration. The mass basically remains the same, and the acceleration actually gets slower. So in reality, gear 3 would inflict less damage than normal hitting. Why not complain about that either?
tl:dr - just enjoy the story.
I reread the chapter and noticed that the Fsh Rider who pick up Brook looks like Brook!!! With the hair and sunglasses on the forehead they really look alike.
Can't wait for them to get to Sunny!, Franky might unleash a new weapon for Suny as they escape Saobody. Maybe a laser similar to the Pacifistas????
