Hmm it seems people are voting for sky. I could see sky being a mafia or 3rd party more then SGR and Maki. If i don't make it intime for the crunch line this will stick…
Unvote lynch: No Lynch
Vote lynch: Sky
Hmm it seems people are voting for sky. I could see sky being a mafia or 3rd party more then SGR and Maki. If i don't make it intime for the crunch line this will stick…
Unvote lynch: No Lynch
Vote lynch: Sky
Kitsune, could we please have an update of the vote count?
No Lynch [3] - Mr. Habaneroo, MagiciteKefka, Maki707
SGRaaize [5] - Shuhan1288, "Dead Bones" Brook, Sky, Silent Klabautermann, felton
Sky [5] - SGRaaize, Nectar, Vepe, m00n, Pkbaldy
Maki707 [2] - Kinalara, Harvady Alumnus
HiroVoid [1] - Malice
Vepe [1] - metteminne
Nectar [1] - Bogart
It's something like this I believe…
Sky, do you have anything to say to people believing you to be mafia?
Well I know that some people are just trying to get a bandwagon going so we can finally get a lynch, and I guess they chose me. I know that even if I'm threatened to being lynched, I won't reveal my ability because even if I live after that, it won't help anyone…
After what Bogart said, I'm thinking he may be on to something here...I mean, for 4 games as a townie? Seems illogical, same for Hiro except vice-versa. So I might decide to change my vote later if I think it'll help.
Well I leave this to voice my opinion, it may not do much, but it's what I believe
Town Vote: Sky
Also, if you are willing to give a reason to lynch two people. You are willing to discuss it. Several questions i would like an answer too;
What is your theory behind Maki being Mafia linking to me being mafia?
What will happen if Maki is lynched and mafia, will you without even thinking lynch me?
Will your trust level in everyone go up, if Maki is mafia?
What will happen to you if Maki is lynched and he is town?
Have you thought about the bad thought and suspicion people could have in you if you do so?I am not worried about being lynched, because if i do the game is over for me and 1 less townie to help you guys out. I am more afraid of being killed before we find atleast 2 Mafia.
I'l keep this questions on my mind for if Maki707 gets lynched and turns out Mafia
aaaaaaaand, no. Please dont Hanny. I know you believe that but I serious;y don't want a TV any time soon. Thanks for the thought though…
:I Gosh i wish I could edit that…
@Shuhan1288:
Well I leave this to voice my opinion, it may not do much, but it's what I believe
Town Vote: Sky
I'm curious. I wasn't really planning to vote lynch Sky anyway, but I wasn't about to TV her either. are you town-voting her just to demonstrate that you believe in her innocence, or because you genuinely believe she's innocent? both reasons are fine with me, I'm just curious. :)
I'm curious. I wasn't really planning to vote lynch Sky anyway, but I wasn't about to TV her either. are you town-voting her just to demonstrate that you believe in her innocence, or because you believe that she's useful to town and should be protected? both reasons are fine with me, I'm just curious. :)
GAH mistyped. that bold part is what I mean. :/
I seriously hate my position right now. As has been said before (although it still seems to be under debate), a Day 1 lynch is probably the best route to go. But the two people most likely to be lynched right now are SGR and Sky, and I agree with neither of these lynches. SGR to me has been perfectly logical and has been contributing to discussion. Sky has been reasonably active and I don't feel that any of the reasons for her wagon are legitimate to me, such as her posting style (which Nectar already corrected himself on lol) and the phase when she was asking about characters (which she has clarified, I think).
At this rate, I might just put my vote on HiroVoid, who's been awfully inactive. not likely to get a successful lynch, but I don't want to just jump on bandwagons to get in a lynch.
decisions decisions :/
Well I have been thinking about that…and I think that a poster like that would be an ideal lynch. I mean, we've been pointing fingures all over the place, and he hasn't really said anything other than a small hint at his ability and character. I just havent wanted to lynch someone else while the vote is so high on me...
Well, mostly because I believe her to be innocent… As far as I know, Sky is no stranger to this game. If she truly were mafia, then why would she make the rookie mistake of immediately asking for everyones abilities. Any person who's played this game (this one being my first actually ) would know asking that would throw suspicion on themselves. Sky is smarter than that...I'd hope...
I hope…? :getlost:
Nah, I'm kidding, but really. I don't believe you should TV me at the current moment.
At current, I'm leaning more towards SGR being more suspicious than Sky is– if I had to choose between the two.
But still, my gut is telling me something about Maki ain't right.
Oh, I wasn't going to… I was proving a point that I trust you.
Unvote town vote: Sky
@Shuhan1288:
Oh, I wasn't going to… I was proving a point that I trust you.
Unvote town vote: Sky
Hum…..........................
Just found that tidbit interesting, nothing too concrete now
Alright….so what do you think of the advances in the votes?
Hmm….I find that odd. Why would you town vote someone to prove a point...just to un-town-vote them?
Sounds like it means something to me, like a code or a signal or something...Little fishy.
Though it could just be me over analyzing again, i'll keep that in mind...
oh he probably thinks I'm mafia now and that my display of trust was an elaborate ruse…
Looking back over the list of who wants to lynch who, I see that for the most part we're at odds. There are a few gathered people on votes, but then a ton of lone votes.
I'm not sure if we can fix or unify ourselves during the few hours we have left- though that would be nice.
Well are you still bent on Maki? What did you think of Bogart's case against Nectar?
Hmm….I find that odd. Why would you town vote someone to prove a point...just to un-town-vote them?
Sounds like it means something to me, like a code or a signal or something...Little fishy.
Though it could just be me over analyzing again, i'll keep that in mind...
If mafia can sent each other PMs, why would mafia bother with codes…
We still have 10 hours, so many stuff can change.
Not happy there are these many votes on me, but I stand by my arrogant prediction that I won't be lynched today.
Happy you have these votes on you, I am noticing a clear "Trying to look very useful while providing content that can't possibly screw Mafia" attitude (not the first time I see an attitude like this from a Mafioso), I've also noticed that you were the one to politely but almost-forcingly (is that a word?) ask the most for characters.
Vorlianis took away his vote from M00n to vote me, while that's fine, I can't help but still have in mind that he vote-lynched M00n for no reason, not necessarily a Mafia trait, but something to keep an eye on to for further in the game.
I don't see any problems on vote-lynching HiroVoid, he's been kind of lurking and didn't reveal much aside from giving his role and getting away
About Vepe, Nectar and Maki707, while I do know the reasons why one would Vote Lynch them, I don't think they're top priorities.
For the most part, I am. But I'm trying to look over all evidence at this point to see if anything sways me.
After all, My vote for Maki was partially just a gut-feeling.
As for the Bogart vs. Nectar bit, I'm reading that over now. I'll get back to you on what I think.
@Shuhan1288:
If mafia can sent each other PMs, why would mafia bother with codes…
Oh yeah– I forgot about that XD
Alright, that's fine Kina.
So yeah, I think this is fine for now…
Change Vote: HiroVoid
Hmm….Reading over the whole thing, I can see where Bogart is coming from with the whole "useless information" bit. It does seem like Nectar is talking in circles and using already backed up info to make himself look important.
And the bit about pushing easy lynches does make him seem like another way he's trying to jump on board with the town and make himself look innocent.
But...Iunno- I'll watch him closer, but right now I don't think it's enough to recall my vote.
NEW CHAPTER IS OUT~!!!
Sorry for the spam.
Alright, so any other reasons for Maki besides your gut feeling Kina?
LYNCH STATUS:
It takes 14 votes to lynch.
Sky [5] - SGRaaize, Nectar, Vepe, Pkbaldy, m00n
SGRaaize [4] - Shuhan1288, "Dead Bones" Brook, Silent Klabautermann, vorlianis
No Lynch [3] - Mr. Habaneroo, MagiciteKefka, Maki707
Maki707 [2] - Kinalara, Harvady Alumnus
HiroVoid [2] - Malice, Sky
Vepe [1] - metteminne
Nectar [1] - Bogart
TOWN VOTE STATUS:
It takes a majority to receive town vote.
All players are eligible for town vote.Shuhan1288 [12] - Maki707, Kinalara, "Dead Bones" Brook, Mr. Habaneroo, Sky, trappedolphin, MagiciteKefka, m00n, Vepe, Wooden_Giraffe, felton, Malice, Silent Klabautermann
Kinalara [1] - SGRaaize
vorlianis [1] - metteminne
Ahh, I finished reading it….it's wonderful. :wub:
SGR, i don't want to ask again. I want an answer to them questions now please.
As I said before, its nothing concrete now and I don't wanna lose time discussing this when there are far worse things to discuss later, I'l have my reasoning if Maki707 turns out scum.
Your paranoia is not helping your case, calm down here.
Or are you so sure that Maki707 is scum?
To be completely honest, i don't have a clue about Maki. At the moment ANYONE can go either way. I can safely say that most to all who have revealed their characters are telling the truth. Having low amount of knowledge is useless at this time. Which is why i firstly wanted the No Lynch. And i still do because no-one can form an agreement. Seperate lynching creates enemies even between townies. I will safely say i will not need to use my ability tonight.
No need to worry guys-I is a townie. Why don't you just trust me?
Okay no-lynch bad idea and stuff.
Sky-no
SG-no
Hiro- Gone completely AWOL. Said his ability will activate when he dies
=> Cannot prove his ability anytime during the game if he stays alive.
We need to agree on a lynch.
Unvote: No vote
Vote lynch: Hirovoid
So what did you think of Bogart's theory on Nectar?(to anyone)
So who do you guys think we should agree to lynch?
:P Ah, just before me. ^^;
But yeah, I just hope it isnt bad for the townies when he dies…
@Sky:
So what did you think of Bogart's theory on Nectar?(to anyone)
There is truth to it but not enough to lynch him
Yeah, I wasn't planning on lynching him…at least for now. I was just curious on how credible people thought that Bogart was.
bogart is a smart person . you can see that , but i dont think for now that nectar really is mafia ,just agressive for now
and has hirovoid ever said something?
@HiroVoid:
I'm Brook, and all i'll say about my ability is that it activates when I die.
This is it I think…
Woah!! So many pages…
Sorry guys. I had run into some trouble. But I am here now and will try to keep as active as possible.
Great.
Excellent the last solider is here :) Harvady I'll answer your questions in a min.
Anyway I'm gonna try to post this to help some people out. It of course does'nt tell the full story but it might be useful to some people who have fallen behind- it's been 50 pages after all. *I hope it works
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Kefka
[hide]
Agrees with SG about not revealing abilities (30)
Town votes Shuhan. Votes no-lynch (51)
Suspects Vorlianis, PK and SG (69)
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Silent K
[hide]
Agrees with SG about not revealing abilities. It would be a waste of time trying to prove them all (30)
TV Shuhan (51)
Finds SG suspicious (58)
Votes lynch Kmohyudan (68)
Vote lynchs SG. Gives reasons (78)[/hide]
Sky
[hide]
Asks people to claim characters (32)
Town Votes Shuhan (49)
Thinks Kefka is suspicious (65)
Wonders why Nectar is 'following the crowd' (75)
Votes to lynch SG (77) [/hide]
Brook
[hide]
Disagrees with claiming characters. They could be related to abilities (32)
Town votes Shuhan (42)
Names suspects and why (73)
Wondering and questioning moon's power (75)
Votes to lynch SG (77) [/hide]
Moon [hide]
Reveals character and hints at ability (34)
TV's Shuhan. Explains why (57)
Votes No-lynch and explaind why (72) [/hide]
Nectar [hide]
Advises to lynch a no-poster (35)
Wants to lynch lurkers to avoid mod-kills (37)
Votes Kmohyudan (68)
Votes Sky (72) [/hide]
Cecila [hide]
Wants to lynch someone so there will be one less person to be suspicious of (36)
Suspects Sky. Explains why (76) [/hide]
SGRaize
[hide]
Advises everyone to not reveal character and abilities.(30)
Advises everyone to town vote users not abilities (31)
Sky gives him 'scum vibes' (33)
Says not to expect info from night 1. It is a common townie mistake to not lynch. (36)
Agrees with Nectar about lynching people with little input if a suspect is not found (36)
Small suspicion Maki is mafia (40)
Town votes Kinalara. Votes Sky. Gives his reasons (58)
Biggest suspect is Sky. Minor suspects are Maki, Vepe and Vorlianis (69)
Gives his thought Summary (78) [/hide]
PK [hide]
Asks about Maki's ability (37)
Encouarges everyone to vote no-lynch (51)
Will stay at no lynch unless someone persuades him (80) [/hide]
Kina [hide]
Questions Maki's ability (40)
Town votes Shuhan (43)
Votes Maki. Expalins why (73) [/hide]
Habaneroo [hide]
Town Votes and Lynch votes (49)
Finds SG suspicious (58)
Explains who he suspects (79) [/hide]
Felton [hide]
Asks if Nectar is a townie (49)
Suggests to not lynch without proof (69)
Town votes Shuhan and lynch votes Kmohyudan (70)
Explains his thoughts (79) [/hide]
Malice [hide]
Against role claiming and explains thoughts (53)
TV’s Shuhan, lynch votes Hiro. Explains why (71) [/hide]
Trappe [hide]
Town votes Shuhan. Explains why.(49)
Explains who she suspects (79)
Suspects PK (80) [/hide]
Vepe [hide]
Town votes Shuhan (57)
Vote lynch’s Gazzgirl. Suspects her (70) (72)
Hints at ability (74) [/hide]
Gazzgirl
Wooden [hide]
Town votes Shuhan (61)
Wants his character to remain secret in fear of revealing ability (67)
Votes to no-lynch (70) [/hide]
Mette [hide]
Suspects PK and Vepe (69)
Votes lynch Vepe (72) [/hide]
Vorlianis [hide]
Vote lynch moon (61) [/hide]
Shuhan [hide]
Reveals ability (43)
Votes SG. Explains why (67)
Says Vepe is acting suspicious (68) [/hide]
Harvady [hide]
Votes Maki. Explains why (80) [/hide]
Hiro [hide]
Half-explains ability (33) [/hide]
Sudoku
Bogart
Kmohyudin
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As the game went along I basically just referenced points of interest to make it easier.I just copied my word document over. Hopefully it can help, anyone can just check out things themselves if they want to know more
They are all based on whatever I found noteworthy though so don't trust it completely
This could be useful.
Ironic, because that's exactly what I think of you, lol
Alright, Nectar, but let's remember that, in every other game aside from the second, the Townies made clear mistakes, even if they won, you yourself, along with Kitsune Inferno, were pointing them out in the Dead Topic of the last Mafia game.
No-Lynching falls in another one of those mistakes
I'm acting the same. If I have a strong suspect, I go after him/her.
Lots of stuff. Glad to see it.
I'm going to point a finger at this time, and it's on Nectar. There are too many things being said that don't make sense, and there's a distinct lack of helpful information (or even cooperative attitude, but I suppose that's something else entirely).
I don't have a lot of information. I'm mostly observing and calling people out when if something doesn't make sense to me.
I'm pretty sure someone's already covered this particular fact, but I'm re-stating because it's part of the puzzle.
Sure, it's bad- if the inactive player's a Townie. What if they're Mafia? Furthermore, if you're convinced inactives are Townies, why the heck would you lynch them? They die either way, but we waste a chance to go for Mafia.
Dead people give information. We learn their powers and group association.
I use that to help me make decisions.
Either way, you're trying to lynch a member who's 1. Not around to defend themselves, and 2. Not even warranting suspicion, since you've stated that you don't even care that they're Mafia or not. It just looks like you're going for an easy kill, one that might not even happen. So why push for it to happen? Not helpful at all.
You think randomly pointing fingers is helpful? Is that what I should do?
Sorry, I don't work that way. I find it easier to catch people in lies and to do that I need them to post "normally". Once I feel they slipped up is when I attack.
I don't think that's the problem. If you see someone not posting who's active somewhere else, yeah, you have a lurker, and they need to be punished. But being flat-out absent just means they wouldn't get a chance to use powers anyway. Giving a prediction solely as an excuse to disregard other concerns on the chance it comes true is kinda uncooperative.
I'm going after possible no-shows on Day 1 because every or most of the previous games had one AND I don't have a major suspect.
I have people I suspect, yes. But, not enough to go full "bad cop" mode on…yet.
Every game here on AP started with a no lynch = fact
Every game here on AP was eventually a Town victory = fact
Town won every game because they started with a no lynch = ???That's a possible misuse of logic there, and it needs to be clarified. Those two factors may be true, but they have little to nothing to do with each other. Franky, Moria and Whitebeard/Akainu were major contributing factors, and their actions didn't depend on the lynches at all. One vigilante'd a mafia to victory, one turned mafia into zombies (and escaped being lynched anyway), and the last two became unnightkillable vocal Townies.
That there was a no lynch every game after the first was most likely just an unspoken agreement based on habit.
I understand what you're saying, but I feel the Townies can win whether or not we vote lynch on Day 1. As I said, I'm in observation mode right now. I don't care how we vote today. Yeah, I'm cynical about catching a Mafia on Day 1. I won't apologize for it.
The reasons for lynching day one is the same as the reasons for lynching every day after- to catch baddies. We have a chance to mis-fire, of course, but that's possible every day, and it's no reason not to try.
For the record, I have never said we have/should/must No Lynch. If that's how everyone wants to do it, they can.
I'm waiting for Day 2. Why? Because, I want to use my night power on Night 1 and see my and everyone else's result. That's when I start to work.
Other than that, and a few fishman harassment issues, Nectar has simply commented on what other people have said and given orders/statements that aren't that relevant or helpful. It's a lot of not much, which is the case for a lot of people. However, Nectar is also pushing for easy lynches with poor reasoning, pressing cases that are either unimportant or already have backing (like cooperating with SG with Sky).
Really? Confirming beyond doubt Pkbaldy doesn't have a power linked to the way he posts isn't helpful?
I cooperated with SGR because I was giving him rope to hang himself. If Sky was a townie then I can continue to work my own angles without him or anyone else accusing me of not being a team player.
When did I "cooperate" with Sky? If you mean my Masha/Sky mix up, that's on me. Not like we're buddies because I made a mistake.
Maybe Nectar is just waiting to use abilities because that's how the game was played. However, I'd like to point out to everyone that we don't need powers to lynch Mafia. His general suspicious actions and lack of helpful comments are enough for me to suspect him. And so, I punctuate my suspicions with this here vote.
Vote: Nectar
You're right, I'm waiting to use my ability. I'm also waiting on the "twist" (multiple townie deaths, finding out we have no doctor, etc) and general night results.
Look, I wasn't kidding when I say the Townies would be screwed if I was Mafia. You think going after no-shows is the best I'd come up with? You'd think I'd debate with SGR and not follow along with him? Please!
If I was Mafia, I'd be pretending to point my finger at a lurker type player like a good little soldier. I'm standing my ground and I'll continue to.
Ok, I've caught up now and I have a suicidal thought in my head now.
My top priority right now is to find out who is Kid and is he a mafia, townie or possibly a third party. Since if he ISN'T a townie, lynching me could be a wise decision.
Could this be a "twist"?
@Sky:
Well I know that some people are just trying to get a bandwagon going so we can finally get a lynch, and I guess they chose me. I know that even if I'm threatened to being lynched, I won't reveal my ability because even if I live after that, it won't help anyone…
After what Bogart said, I'm thinking he may be on to something here...I mean, for 4 games as a townie? Seems illogical, same for Hiro except vice-versa. So I might decide to change my vote later if I think it'll help.
Yeah, I was surprised I was a Townie too, but I doesn't change the fact that's the role I was given.
Hmm….Reading over the whole thing, I can see where Bogart is coming from with the whole "useless information" bit. It does seem like Nectar is talking in circles and using already backed up info to make himself look important.
And the bit about pushing easy lynches does make him seem like another way he's trying to jump on board with the town and make himself look innocent.But…Iunno- I'll watch him closer, but right now I don't think it's enough to recall my vote.
I thought I started the no-show lynch bandwagon.
I don't have a major suspect yet. Get over it people.
Alright, to be honest I'm still leaning towards no lynching. While people have been acting suspicious i thinkits more paranoia on everyones part more then anything else. so unless something new comes up or everyone can agree on one person. As far as hirovoid goes I'm guessing that his ability is akin to that of a hunter, so lynching him without there being sufficient evidence on anyone might not be helpful.
Hehehehe, Nectar.
Allow me to tell you, that, if you're a Mafia, this is gonna be a very interesting game.
LYNCH STATUS:
It takes 14 votes to lynch.
Sky [5] - SGRaaize, Nectar, Vepe, Pkbaldy, m00n
SGRaaize [4] - Shuhan1288, "Dead Bones" Brook, Silent Klabautermann, vorlianis
HiroVoid [3] - Malice, Sky, Maki707
No Lynch [2] - Mr. Habaneroo, MagiciteKefka
Maki707 [2] - Kinalara, Harvady Alumnus
Vepe [1] - metteminne
Nectar [1] - Bogart
TOWN VOTE STATUS:
It takes a majority to receive town vote.
All players are eligible for town vote.Shuhan1288 [12] - Maki707, Kinalara, "Dead Bones" Brook, Mr. Habaneroo, Sky, trappedolphin, MagiciteKefka, m00n, Vepe, Wooden_Giraffe, felton, Malice, Silent Klabautermann
Kinalara [1] - SGRaaize
vorlianis [1] - metteminne
6.5 hours left
If we are planning to lynch. Can we all please confirm on an agreement?? I will be unreachable within 4 hours.
I'm gonna keep my vote on Sky, although I don't mind going for HiroVoid
I refuse to vote for myself, obviously, and I don't wanna vote for Vorlianis, Maki or Nectar yet