As I step back onto the forum for the first time in a while, I'm definitely down to get back into these games. I like the idea of asynchronous games, as well as speed, and weekend games. I'm finding myself with more freetime than I've had in years and I'd love to play another game hosted by you. 
Yayy, good job everyone.
I had a really good time playing and sluething!
I'm totally on-board for a No swords lynch today, especially after Jabber explained himself a bit. I've voted already.
To be honest, if it's not No swords, it would be star. I have no doubts that the Coroner role they described was honest, especially with the detail given. At this point, its unlikely, but I think that there could've been a theif/coroner mafia team.
I say that we lynch No swords today, then if we don't end the game, Kitsune investigates star, I watch Kitsune, and we have a relatively conclusive day 4.
Actually, I made a mistake. I can only visit the dead and check their role, role description, and what items they had. I can't keep the items, I'm sorry for being confusing, I was confused too about the description, but it's cleared up now! ><
Okay, that makes more sense.
@No:
Even without investigating her, I believe that Star is telling the truth about her role, if not her alinement. It seems way too intricate and detailed to be making up out of nowhere, especially for a new player.
No problem, being more honest now will help with scum hunting. It may have been a little selfish of me to bring up keeping roles a secret just so I could have a chance to prove I'm telling the truth.
Also, this might be a crazy idea, but hear me out:
After checking the mafia wiki, it says that FBI agents usually just get a guilty reading on serial killers and no one else. And of all the players still alive, basically all of us agree that myself, Star, and Sky are the most suspicious. If we lynched one of us today, and then another of the three or Kitsune died at night, then Jabber is the safest person on the final day, since we've all seen him as getting an accurate read on Kmo. But thinking about this differently, all he would need to be "confirmed" as an FBI agent would be the knowledge that Kmo is a serial killer.
So what if Jabber is actually a mafia role cop, or similar equivalent, and just used the knowledge he gained from checking Kmo night 1?
Looking back at day 2, the momentum for lynching was almost completely on Huschel under Jabber brought up his report. It's not like it was super risky for Jabber to do it, since he would be validated when Kmo died if he knew his role. Since then, none of us have doubted or investigated Jabber. I haven't done it, Kitsune hasn't done it, heck, it Sky is telling the truth, then she was protecting Jabber both nights until now, in a way. No one here has ever double checked or suspected anything in regards to Jabber after his claim.
And while Jabber did mention the idea of Shuhan shooting Huschel, he wasn't the first one to bring it up; Sky was. But it still let Huschel have a night action he very, very likely would not have been permitted otherwise. Like, say, using the gun he stole at least once.
Plus, nobody's claimed to have any sort of protective role or used a protective item, yet everyone lived through night one. And if the mafia really do each have a night power, like Jabber just brought up, then it's very possible we've had a mafia thief/mafia role cop combo, who needed items to kill. If they decided to both target Kmo night 1, they could have then acted based on that information in addition Kitsune's report. Heck, if this is the case, then its possible Huschel was the role cop and Jabber is the thief, and they privately exchanged information after Huschel was exposed so Jabber could both get suspicion off of himself and keep the gun he stole.
This is an interesting point, and seems to have a lot of forethought on Jabber's part. It could be possible, but I'd also like to look at their posts that day for a feel. Plus, the later part of your argument could be applied to you as well, considering that you're claiming a role cop.
Thinking through this, you should almost certainly target Kitsune tonight with your ability as it's the closest thing to protection we have. He's a confirmed Townie with a powerful ability, so either you see who kills him or he's unharmed and can investigate again.
That makes sense too, and if we don't lynch the last mafia today, Kitsune can use his power on No Swords to determine guilt.
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Actually, no. That theory doesn't make sense. There's no reason that Jabber would chose to investigate night 1 instead of killing with the gun he had. A night 1 kill is almost guaranteed if the mafia has the ability, and there's no reason mafia shouldn't kill that first night over investigating a role, especially if Huschel stole kmo's gun that night.
With that, and everything we've said so far, I think we should lynch No swords, there's almost no doubt in my mind that they're the last mafia.
Sky is Not Guilty.
Vote Lynch: No swords style best style
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Unvote
Just in case we want to sus the rest of this out.
Okay. I'm glad I was cleared. I'm still down to vote out No swords today and if not them, then star?
Well, relooking at my description it seems I do have the items, though when I did my night action, I was told this was what was on the person. So, I guess I do have them? >.<
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So, from my understanding, I do actually have the items from my role description, but when I did my night action, I was never told what the items actually did, only that this was what was in their possession. I hope that makes sense. ^^
Okay, so your role allows you to visit the dead, take every item they had, and learn their role? That has the potential to be pretty powerful, so I'm not quite convinced, but the way you've presented the info so far has me leaning towards you being town.
So I think if we all agree, we can either lynch no swords today, or go through another night to determine if people are telling the truth about their roles. Assumably, if No swords role is real, they can visit Huschel during the night to find out their role, and star can also visit Huschel to confirm his role(and get his items).
If I also target Huschel, I would be able to see that both of them 'visited' during the night.
However, I'm still leaning towards lynching today, since we're in a good position.
Aah, perhaps the ski mask prevented me from seeing kmo visit anyone. Or rather, if I'd targeted someone who kmo stole from, I would've only gotten the knowledge that *someone had visited that person, rather than kmo himself.
To be completely honest, star's information seems to match pretty well to how the set up has been revealed so far, and makes sense when we have abilities to target the dead for things as well.
I feel as though the two cop type claims have come through well, so I think it makes sense that No swords and myself are the top candidates for the last mafia. Obviously, I know that I'm town-aligned so my bet is No swords. I think it'll ultimately be up to the town to decide, but I think that with our current numbers, even if we vote out a townie, and somehow the last mafia kills during the night, we still have another day to vote them out.
So I'm pretty confident leaving this here for now. I'll hope that Kitsune's report has something fruitful, but I think we also may be able to simply scum hunt as well.
Vote Lynch: No swords style best style
I don't think there's any way to confirm it. Shuhan admitted to stealing from Jabberwok from the first night almost at day-start, so I didn't get a chance to question him directly.
For the first night, I targeted Jabber because they talked a lot the first day, and I thought that someone would target them for something. The second night I thought that since Jabber seemed like a confirmed cop, that they would be a target for the mafia.
What is interesting about the role is that I can target someone who is alive or not, so I think it's likely that other roles can target the dead, including the thieves.
I'm not sure about Role Cop, it could make sense considering that death hasn't revealed roles, just alignment. But except for the two thieves I'm not sure what the point of it would be.
No swords, could you quote to where you alluded to this before?
Besides that, I'm okay with role reveals at this point, because I think it'll help us scum hunt.
I am a Watcher. I can target someone and determine who visited them during the night. The first night, I watched Jabberwok and saw Shuhan visit them. The second night, I watched Jabberwok again (since I thought they were a confirmed cop) but no one visited them last night.
I did not start out with any items, nor have I received any.
Alright, what a night! Kmo was a surprise third-party, so I'm glad we were able to lynch him before he caused any trouble.
So Huschel AND kmo were both anti-Town? Huh.
I think we can assume Shuhan killed Huschel last night, unless someone offers a contradictory story. That also explains why Huschel hammered so quick, which I was looking forward to following up on.
Might as well reveal this, since I've already said I have an investigative role. I got a Not Guilty result on starlalilymoon last night. However, because I'm a Town FBI Agent, it's possible that I'll only receive a Guilty result on a Serial Killer like kmo. So starla's probably clear but we shouldn't count her out.
Kirby, would you tell us if any items were found on a body?
That is an interesting role. It would make sense, especially with such a small game to have two separate roles for investigating 'guilt' for third party and mafia. However I did want to check with Kitsune that your role is a Cop and not an FBI Agent.
In terms of who we have left, I think out of the 5 who are left, we have 1 mafia and 4 town. It doesn't make sense to have any more third party or mafia, since that would've meant we only had 4 townies to start out of 8.
With that, I think we have a real opportunity to lynch today, especially if Kitsune's reports were fruitful. Even if we mislynch today and somehow the mafia has a gun, we would still have another day to scum-hunt.
Lastly I will say that I was not broken into and nothing was stolen from me.
Hmm, interesting development.
I can confirm that as a Thief, I did not start with an item. I would assume that if there were any other thieves around they would also not have an item.
Between Huchel and Kmo, I want to lean towards Huschel only because while an artificer does jibe with this set up, It seems pretty op for either side.
@Huschel: were you able to put the vest on or not?
This post makes a lot of sense to me, in terms of thieves not starting out with any items. So with that logic the thought that kmo was stolen from and also apparently stole from Huschel doesn't line up.
Seems the more I learn about Huschel the more guilty they are. With Kitsune's report and kmo saying he stole a lock pick, makes it seem that Huschel is the third thief. Maybe Huschel stole from kmo and vice versa showing that Huschel was the third thief who got the vest from kmo. Hmmmm, this is getting very interesting, quite indeed.
It was flavor text, so I'm sure it was a ghost or something trying to scare me… >_<
This doesn't make sense to me at all. There is no reason you would've gotten a nighttime PM informing you of a break-in if it wasn't someone's action. This implies that there was a third thief, and that kmo's claim of being one becomes more unlikely. Especially since I don't think there would be 4 thieves in a game like this.
I don't think you are the third thief. The lock pick doesn't seem like something a thief (in this setup) would have, since neither I nor Shuhan had it. Rather, I feel as if its meant to open locked doors.
To be honest, my message was a bit ambiguous. Now that I have read it again, it doesn't actually say that any item was stolen from me, but just that some item is missing (paraphrase). I assume it was stolen (being a thief myself), but now that I think about it, it could be that I am NOT allowed more than one item at a time? Although, I wasn't informed if that's the case and I doubt that it is.
No, I can confirm that I never had a vest.
Based on this, I believe it's still likely kmo was stolen from, especially since his wording matched up with Jabberwok’s, however I still think it's quite unlikely you stole anything from Huschel, especially since Huschel didn't claim that anything was stolen, even after the Guilty report.
I don't have a ton to add right now, but since kmo and Huschel are directly contradicting each other we definitely need to lynch one of them. Like I said, I believe kmo had an item stolen from him, but I don't necessarily believe he's telling the truth about it being a gun or that he's on the Town's side.
Beyond that, I don't have too much to offer sooo… where's everyone from? I'm from the Pacific Northwest. Not as much blue sky as one might expect given our infamously rainy weather, but beautiful green towns everywhere full of trees and flowers. Nice place, a lot better than this basement.
I agree, and honesty I'm leaning towards kmo at this point. While Huschel's item and ability descriptions got a little hazy, I think they were detailed enough to seem truthful and the artificer ability(if true) definitely seems like a town-aligned role. Plus if it turns out that kmo is town, I think we can safely have Shuhan shoot Huschel during the night(or if that fails lynch them on Day 3).
Also, I'm from New York, and it's getting quite warm for not even being summer yet…
Has AP always been this impossible to navigate?
I'll be at work for another hour, then I can weigh in, offer takes, and try and help with the hunt.
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This is an interesting point you're making and leads me to a question: did you actually target Kmohyudin? And follow-up question, are you 100% certain your report was on Kmo?
Hey thanks for breaking that down! I had just casually noticed him mention your name a couple and it gave me pause.
This sounds highly highly unlikely. Unless someone claims having a use for a lock, this is honestly the most suspicious thing we've uncovered today.
More to come.
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I'm a flop detective because I am done fighting with AP's broken ass multi-quote system.
I feel like there's a lot of things getting thrown up in the air but there's a very important piece of information that SHOULD be told to us as soon as humanly possible.
What does the lockpick do?
My guess is absolutely nothing because it's not real, which is why if we're going to lynch one guilty boi or the other, I'm leaning kmo.
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That said, I'd like to say that while I may be clear in Jabberwok's eyes, he's not yet clear in mine. There's no possible way both of us are sane cops, though, because that would be kinda broken with eight players.
It COULD be possible we're both insane, but that's highly unlikely.
Yes, it's terrible, especially trying to do multi-quotes spanning multiple pages on a mobile device. ^-^;
As for the lock pick, I agree with you. I think there could be a possibility of a lockpick being able to steal from someone once, but with a game with this many thieves, I still think it's unlikely..
With both guilty reports, I think its fair to assume either Jabberwok or Kitsune is insane, and right now, kmo is looking more and more suspicious. So for right now, I will leave my vote here. However I'm willing to change it if we as the town decide on Huschel instead.
Vote Lynch: kmohyudin
