A thread about the Tales of Series. Just wanted to open a forum for Tales fans.
The Tales of Series is kind of a low rated series in the west. But it's still one the best JRPG series I still like.
I'm still hoping for Tales of Graces to come to the states. :cheerful:
I really love this series. So far, I've only played Phantasia and Eternia. I haven't touched any of the Tales of installments in the PS2, but I definitely will if I have the console. Tales of Destiny 2/Eternia is my top favorite. The best thing about this series is undoubtedly the gameplay. It's just fuckin' great and satisfying.
I will have to agree with on the game play. It's so much fun to run around and hit the enemies. I was surprised and happy when I found out that I didn't have to wait for a bar to fill up for me to attack.
Good luck on finding the PS2 games. It took me awhile to find Tales of Legendia, but totally worth it.
Also really like the characters in the series as well.
I've only played Symphonia, Symphonia 2, Phantasia and Graces, but I really love to play without having to select attacks and wait for my turn. I'm bad at waiting.
Finally completed Graces last week. I had to go through the process of getting a reshipment 4 months after ordering since the copy I pre-ordered got lost in the post, but it was totally worth it because it was a really beautiful and great game. Had loads of fun. :happy:
That's great. I'm kind of jealous of you having Graces. But oh well. Does it play as Symphonia 2 with the wii remote and nunchuk?
I only played Symphonia, Symphonia 2, Vesperia, the Abyss, Phantasia, and Legendia.
Now I only need to get Tales of Eternia. As the remake Tales of Destiny is much better then the regular game.
Another good thing about Tales is being able to switch costumes for the characters.
Only played Symphonia, I got about 5 hours into it and stopped a good 2 years ago. It's funny that I bought a Gamecube and that's all I really played on it, now I got a Wii. I plan to restart it someday.
I heard Vesperia WAS gonna come to the PS3 in the states, but ultimately didn't. That's quite lame, the PS3 is lacking JRPGs.
It is played in pretty much the same way with nunchuk and wiimote, though they switched around and added some functions, like skits being activated with 2, + and then - for cutscene skipping, that kind of minor stuff, is a bit jarring when you're used to Symphonia 2's control scheme.
Cutscene skipping is really handy though because there's quite a lot of cutscenes in the game 
It's good, though there are very few standout games in the series.
The only game that gets everything right is Phantasia.
Battle system is always fun though.
Just Phantasia. There's something about that game I have not experienced in another Tales game yet. I didn't really like the other ones I played.. That involves Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia.
Only played Symphonia, I got about 5 hours into it and stopped a good 2 years ago. It's funny that I bought a Gamecube and that's all I really played on it, now I got a Wii. I plan to restart it someday.
I heard Vesperia WAS gonna come to the PS3 in the states, but ultimately didn't. That's quite lame, the PS3 is lacking JRPGs.
Well, from what I've read there is still a little bit of hope. But wouldn't count on it as Namco Bandai has not realesed any other Tales game
Funny, I stop play Phantasia. It's the only Tales game I own that I have not finished. I hope you restart Symphonia and enjoy playing it.
@Silent:
It is played in pretty much the same way with nunchuk and wiimote, though they switched around and added some functions, like skits being activated with 2, + and then - for cutscene skipping, that kind of minor stuff, is a bit jarring when you're used to Symphonia 2's control scheme.
Cutscene skipping is really handy though because there's quite a lot of cutscenes in the game
That's good. The controls sound like a in improvement. The cutsenes skipping sounds like great for a second play though.
It's good, though there are very few standout games in the series.
The only game that gets everything right is Phantasia.
Battle system is always fun though.
I actually stop playing Phantasia as I got stuck in a part. It aggravated me when I could not move foward.
Just Phantasia. There's something about that game I have not experienced in another Tales game yet. I didn't really like the other ones I played.. That involves Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia.
I think you might like Tales of Legendia. It has the same feel as Phantasia. Thought I only played Phantasia on the GBA.
Phantasia and Eternia are pretty exceptional but the rest get bogged down for various reasons.
Never played Eternia. It looks like a good Tales game.
Eternia is good. Especially on the PSP.
I love the Tales series, especially Phantasia and Abyss, but I haven't played a new one SINCE Abyss. I've been following throughhim's translation patches, though, so I might actually be able to play Innocence or Destiny 2 in my future.
That's good. Do you play the Tales games with a English patch or no and just play head on with Japanese text?
I think the only Tales game I would not play would be Tales of Tempest. It really sounds bad when a game was going to be part of the mother ships but turn out so bad the company made it a escort title.
I've played a lot of Tales games. Phantasia, Destiny, Eternia, Narikiri Dungeon 2 & 3, Destiny 2, Rebirth, Symphonia, Legendia and Abyss, whether by having to import them or emulate them. I loved Phantasia (and to a lesser extent Destiny) but good lord did those random battles suck. Eternia was my second foray into the series and me and my sister played it together. It was probably our favorite. We played Symphonia and Abyss together too - that's generally what determines which we love best. Epic battle moments, intentionally letting characters we hated die (Keele, Colette, Anise), marveling at the occasionally awesome AI, rolling our eyes at the ridiculous plot twists.
That's what makes the Tales series for me. That, and genuine party interaction. …The mediocre storylines and recent stream of consistently lame main villains, not so much.
I have to agree with on everything you said Silence. As me and my sister played the games together. Though she hated when Marta left the party in Symphonia Dawn of the New world she would have reselect her arts.
The party interaction are the best part of the Tales series.
Though I still love one villain. Good old Zagi.
So many epic moments.
I had played a few hours into Phantasia on ZSNES, some years before - but when I saw Eternia, I thought it was something my sister and I both could get into, so I bought it. And we played the crap out of it. So there we were, on my second playthrough: we were playing Eternia on the HARDCORE difficulty and fighting against Sekundes (Dhaos). I had recently picked up a multi-tap, so myself, a friend, and my sister squared off against him. I was controlling Reid, my sister Farah, and our friend was Keele, because in our experience, Keele's AI was freaking atrocious, repeatedly cancelling spells we ordered him to do to go run up and melee when people needed reviving, and getting himself oneshot - no matter what we set his tactics to do.
We left Meredy on AI. She was me and my sister's favorite character, and often my sis would play her when she wasn't playing Farah (even ended up cosplaying her once or twice). While in the game Keele was a whiny, arrogant bigot who was almost utterly unlikeable, Meredy was sweet without being annoying, endearingly spacey and yet probably smarter than the entire main cast. In battle, Meredy seemed to take care of herself well, smartly exploiting weaknesses and being an overall awesome contributer to the team. We loved Meredy. Keele, was a tool.
We had all the upgrades, the best equipment we could get and were VIKINGS at the combo strings. This was at around the time that Eternia had just come out (2001), so we didn't have the benefit of Youtube or dedicated Tales communities. We didn't spam Max's Aqua Laser, nor would we have, had we known about how OP it was. All we had were some vague Gamefaqs suggestions and a lot of grit.
But man that fight was tough. SekunDHAOS spammed the Maxwell extensions, his cheap combos, Million Assault, Sekundes Corridor - the works. He broke us. We fought a hard fight, trying our best to bait him and leap out of the way of his attacks. Revives were desperate, often with the whole party but one wiped out, a rez going out only for the rezzer to die just as the rezee rose. My sister had to use Farah's resurrection skill more than a few times. Ugly. It was ugly.
And then we ran out of life bottles. All hope seemed lost. It was Reid and the Meredy AI, against the onslaught of the Greater Craymel of Time, with little more than a fourth of his HP left. It seemed like we'd made the wrong decisions, and would have to try again, after a half-hour of tense battle. Honestly, none of us were up for it. I ran up to deliver my final attacks, and promptly - Reid, too, was struck down. The party, save one, lay broken.
Meredy stood alone, a full screen away from Sekundes as he hovered closer, the grim reaper to whom all ultimately bow. And then, undaunted, she started chanting a lightning spell:
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and that became my favorite game victory of all time.
I only play them in English text. I can't read two words of Japanese. I've actually beaten three of the four versions of Phantasia, all with different translations.
Well, I'm calling Tales of Destiny 2(US), Tales of Eternia for the sake of not confusing anyone. Tbh, I bought Destiny 2(JP) and Rebirth at a time when I thought I would be learning Japanese so I could play my imports. I saw videos of the hi-ougi exhibitions of those two, and thought the battle system and translation guides could carry me through the games. …They couldn't really! It wasn't the same, though I really enjoyed what I played of them anyway.
And so they sit unfinished on my shelf.
Amazing story Silence. Sounds like epic battle took place. Also from what I heard Rebirth was another well made game. The main character is so different then the usual. Who could ever forgot Veigue's((Main Character of Rebirth)) catch phrases.
"PEACH PIEEEEEEEE!"
Sorry for the double post and bring back a dead forum, but there seems to be a tiny hope for Graces to come to state side. Really the only news about it as well.
http://www.vgreleases.com/wii/ReleaseDate-297689.aspx
Article
http://gamesand.me/2010/04/tales-of-graces-arrives-in-the-us-in-2011/
And all is right in the world.
Yes. Yes it is. So if Namco is able to get the downloadable content, are you guys going to get any?
I'm planing on getting this costume for Asbel
http://gallery.abyssalchronicles.com/displayimage.php?album=229&pos=416
Something about in Nintendo magazine
http://gallery.abyssalchronicles.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=68&pos=4
for Europe. So it looks like that Europe could just get the text change into English while the voices stay in Japanese.
woa sweet i see summer 2010. that is right now right?
so is tales of graces coming to america sometime in jume/july/august?
Ill just download the Japanese version and apply the English patch, easy.
Only tales of games I played were Phantasia, Vesperia and the second Symphonia. Fun series, wish I could play the rest.
It's sad that it's hard to find a old Tales of game. But if your lucky, it a joy.
Voices remain japanese? You're asking for the impossible. Not once has overseas Tales had japanese voices. So don't expect it with Graces.
Only games with dual languages come from NIS America's games. You can dl Graces. But it's not advisable
If anything is like the scanslations sites shutting down (30 of them), due to the U.S/Japanese coalition, then the illegal dl game sites would no doubt be next on japanese companies list. Just be lucky you don't live in Japan.
Cops in Japan even arrest people for illegally dling copyrighted items. Think I'm lying? ANN (Anime News Network)'s reported numerous articles of people getting arrested in Japan for illegally dling/uploading copyrighted items.
worst characters
worst stories
best battle system
best games
Played 'em all except for Graces. Phantasia really sucks–the battle system is way archaic and painful compared to the many followups. Destiny remake on PS2 is probably the best. Hearts (on DS) is the best on the handhelds. I'm partially convinced that they're slowly running the series into the ground in America because rather than bringing over the brand new titles that they put all their effort into, they try to bank on the popularity of older previously-translated titles by choosing the shitty pseudo-sequels and spin-offs instead (Dawn of the New World, Radiant Mythology etc). So NA gets the crappy ones and people think, gee... I remember this series used to be good. Guess I'm not getting the next one! Good jorb Namco.
woa sweet i see summer 2010. that is right now right?
so is tales of graces coming to america sometime in jume/july/august?
Sorry, it's form the Europe Nintendo power. From what I heard it is expected to came to the states until the 1st quarter of 2011.
There isn't any announcement about a north american release (personally I wouldn't hold my breath). The link you posted way up at the top about a Q1 2011 release is dated April 2nd and is probably a recap of this APRIL FOOLS DAY update.
That was a bad April fools joke…. I always liked the ones that seemed impossible for apirl fools jokes. Like Akuma in Resident Evil 2. But still I want hold in some hope. Then again if another Tales of series comes in into the states, a company has to pay for Namco Bandia to bring their own game over to the states. Well thanks for the info stephen.
Yeah, there was a lot of backlash on that site's forum after that. The site managers tried to be tough and say "boo hoo, looks like somebody can't take a joke," but the argument was that it wasn't even a joke in the first place, they just said "Hey! This game is coming to America get ready! Okay actually, fuck you, it's not." Talk about missing the point of April Fools Day.
I will agree with the apirl fools day joke. I fell kind of stupid for not looking at the date. But I'm not going to whine and complain to the site for trying to have some fun. I wonder if Nintendo would just pay them to bring Graces over. It seems like Nintendo was the one who brought Tales to the states. So I say thanks to Nintendo for bring over the first Tales of game to the states any ways. I have a question on the Tales of Destiny. Was the original PS1 game bad or the remakes just make it better?
The original Destiny is a lot like Phantasia. SD characters, slow battle system, not so deep. The remake is a lot like the other PS2 era sprite-based titles like Tales of Destiny 2 (the real one, not Eternia) and Tales of Rebirth. Very smooth and deep battle system that is much more like a fighter, very customizable, lots of added gameplay systems and the story/dialogues are fleshed out. Also the Director's Cut version of the remake has a second playable campaign where you control the main antagonist character Leon/Lion. It's just much better in every way. My friend and I are playing it 2-player right now and it's a ton of fun.
Of course ToP has an archaic battle system– it was their first game. Overtime the games' battle systems became much better.
That said, I'd really like to have some of the new Tales games translated, but they were never that popular here in the states. :/ I didn't really like Dawn of the New World, so the only way I could play them is the Japanese ones we have-- and I can't even understand them!
I wish that article weren't an April Fools joke.
The original Destiny is a lot like Phantasia. SD characters, slow battle system, not so deep. The remake is a lot like the other PS2 era sprite-based titles like Tales of Destiny 2 (the real one, not Eternia) and Tales of Rebirth. Very smooth and deep battle system that is much more like a fighter, very customizable, lots of added gameplay systems and the story/dialogues are fleshed out. Also the Director's Cut version of the remake has a second playable campaign where you control the main antagonist character Leon/Lion. It's just much better in every way. My friend and I are playing it 2-player right now and it's a ton of fun.
That sounds really good. Good luck to you and your friend. Also do you hate all the characters in the Tales series?
Of course ToP has an archaic battle system– it was their first game. Overtime the games' battle systems became much better.
That said, I'd really like to have some of the new Tales games translated, but they were never that popular here in the states. :/ I didn't really like Dawn of the New World, so the only way I could play them is the Japanese ones we have-- and I can't even understand them!
I wish that article weren't an April Fools joke.
Same here. There seems some kind of hope. As Europe is getting Graces this summer. I'm guessing that only the text has changed into English and the voices kept in Japaneses.
Same here. There seems some kind of hope. As Europe is getting Graces this summer. I'm guessing that only the text has changed into English and the voices kept in Japaneses.
Good good…wait, what? We are?
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You better not be getting my hopes up.
It was in Europe Nintendo. Here's the link to the page.
http://gallery.abyssalchronicles.com/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=68&pos=4
Latest news from Japan on the next year's Tales schedule:
Tales of Graces PS3 - Winter 2010
New Tales game for PS3 - no date
Radiant Mythology 3 for PSP - 2011
This is in addition to Phantasia X: Narikiri Dungeon PSP which is coming out in a week or so. Stoked as FUCK for Graces on PS3, now I won't have to mod my Wii or buy an import console, and I won't have to worry about getting a properly patched version of the game either. It probably even has a chance of being localized for North America on PS3. Good news all around. Radiant Mythology 3 seems like an awfully quick turnaround from the 2nd but I guess if the games keep selling they'll keep spinning em off.
Neat news.
Again with porting to PS3. Looks like Tales of moved to the PS3 now. Looks like I might have to get PS3 in the future.
Will this Graces have a child pirate that could not be added because of the lack of free space or enough time?
Ive played Symphonia 1&2 and the GBA ver. so far
i may play Tales of the Abyss once i can find it
That's good. Abyss is a fun game. I loved how much of a jerk Luke was in the start of the game.
Yuudi: No details about the port yet. It's not even on the official pages–in fact I don't know where the info is coming from at all, probably an advance leak from Jump or some other weekly mag that carries video game info.
It is kind of intriguing to choose to port that one over. Vesperia on 360 was a semi-failure, at least for Japan. Nobody wants the 360 there so moving it to PS3 was a big boost in exposure and probably a wider consumer base. But Graces sales on Wii were not good either and Wii has by far the widest base. On the other hand, the technical quality of the game should be way higher on the PS3, especially if they augment it to take advantage of the system. Probably more dialogue and I assume at the very LEAST more skits and such, not even counting the possibility of extra playable characters.
It could also be a bit of a make-up with fans after the fiasco with the bugs in the original version. If its bad enough to require a recall of discs, that's a big hit to the company/series' reputation. And since there apparently wasn't much in terms of pure Wii functionality (i.e. screen pointers, wiimote functions), the move to PS3 should result in a much-improved game. Who knows, maybe the plan to port it was set in motion fairly quickly, and Bamco decided to hold back on sending it to North America once they knew they could sell a superior PS3 version?
I agree with you Stephen. Just wanted to make a little bit of joke. There are some updates of it.
Besides the better graphics, there are more spacial moves or BCs and post story events. Then there's another costume for Sophie.
As long as they don't make another Shirley character for the new game or if possible the port. I think Shirley is the only main character that I hate in the series.
Graces for PS3? It'd be ok if they don't add a ton of extras but that seems unlikely… "exclusive" means nothing anymore. I'm just cheap and don't want to buy the same game on a different platform to enjoy the extras, lol. Hurray for the people who don't have Wiis though.
It could also be a bit of a make-up with fans after the fiasco with the bugs in the original version.
The only bug I came across (and somewhat liked) was when the boss barely moved and stopped crushing me in one hit kills.
The first attempt was devastating… -.-
Underleveled ftw
Played Symphonia, Symphonia 2, and Phantasia. I liked both Symphonia and Phantasia, while the sequel to Symphonia was . . . strange. It just wasn't that fun for me.
My god, I hated Collette and Lloyd in Symphonia, though. That's why I liked Phantasia better.
Graces for PS3? It'd be ok if they don't add a ton of extras but that seems unlikely… "exclusive" means nothing anymore. I'm just cheap and don't want to buy the same game on a different platform to enjoy the extras, lol. Hurray for the people who don't have Wiis though.
I don't usually care enough to get it again if I already have the game (i.e. I didn't get Vesperia PS3) but it's great news for people who didn't already have it.
The only bug I came across (and somewhat liked) was when the boss barely moved and stopped crushing me in one hit kills.
The first attempt was devastating… -.-
Underleveled ftw
"In the announcement, the publisher listed all of the bugs it hopes to address with replacement discs, mostly occurring in "New Game +" replays. Apparently, certain enemies, team conversations, and even key items may not appear in subsequent playthroughs. In addition, bugs in shops can randomly change the types and numbers of items in player possession, and pausing during cutscenes may result in other item glitches."
Maybe not game-destroying, but those are still fairly crappy things to occur…especially when the New Game+ features are there to attract players who are intentionally trying to unlock that extra content for titles and whatnot. Kind of destroys the whole purpose of having it…
Well here's a page from Jump about the TOG port.
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! source http://tales.namco.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=84471. They seem to be a good source for any updates for Tales games.
Nice art for the Tales of game. I wonder why they added F, it reminds of the Wild arms remake for PS2. Also I messed up a bit part for the TOGF they are going to have more story events before the games ending.
If ToG Wii doesn't get a release date for US/EU (and seemingly, it won't), then the chances for the PS3 port getting localized are pretty much 0.
Next PS3 game might get localized, but only if it's from team Symphonia/Vesperia, but I also wouldn't bet on that.
Fuck Namco. Why are they refusing money of about 300k fans? It doesn't make any sense
(Good announcements for people that are able to read Japanese, though…)
