Mikasa has had loads of interactions with others besides eren in their group. The idea shes been some one dimensional Eren Obsessed character who can fight has been false for years. This arc is actually revisiting it where the dynamic was subdued in the meantime
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Mikasa has had loads of interactions with others besides eren in their group. The idea shes been some one dimensional Eren Obsessed character who can fight has been false for years. This arc is actually revisiting it where the dynamic was subdued in the meantime
She's spoken to others. But do you have examples of those conversations? I can't think of anything she's talked about that hasn't revolved around Eren in some way. She's very bland in personality to me.
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She has a very strong bond with Armin. She threw the blade away back in Trost to not let him kill himself. She was the first in the story to tell him to be more confident in himself besides Eren. He's the only one to stop her from doing stupid things like interfering during the trial.
In the Uprising arc she's constantly protective of Armin. When he's being Eren's replacement and in that unfortunate situation with the old man, when Armin kills a person, she comforts him and during Levi's awkward speech of enouragement she jumps to his defense. She defends Armin on the roof and attacks Levi to get the serum (Hange even has to acknowledge her trauma for her to let go of defending him). Nothing to do with Eren's involvement.
That isn't even counting her relationships with other characters. She sat by Sasha's grave in the previous chapter, we see Sasha protect her and Mikasa trust Sasha's instincts. They have some sweet moments. In the cave she goes for Historia instead of Eren. She is also concerned after Levi injures his leg.
She hesitated with Reiner and Bertholt because they were friends.
It's not like she's having a overly unreasonable reaction in this particular moment. She was much worse in the beginning of the story when she had to be stopped and called out constantly. Armin just suggested they probably have to kill Eren when worst comes to worst. Mikasa also isn't Eren's doormat. She stops him from running into battles he can't win (the one time she didn't he basically died). During the battle in Marley she calls him out on killing those children.
Now it's even revealed that she is a member of an important family, giving her additional significance beyond Eren.
I think the fact that people claim she only cares for Eren at this point is complete bs. I've seen people twist this crap, too. Oh she only cares about Armin, Sasha etc because of Eren. No she doesn't. She jumps to their rescue because she cares about everyone. She's just extra protective of Eren because he saved her and he's tied to her childhood trauma of losing two families within the span of a year. (Also Eren's mother's last wish to her was that she would protect Eren.)
I still do think she is pretty basic compared to some other characters (especially since she is one of the main characters). Don't agree she's only Eren-centric, though.
Her relationship with Armin totally needs more love, though. Such an underappreciated part of the story.
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The way the story's currently going, I can't see a happy ending of any shape or form. Almost every character is influenced by the sad environment they live in and their respective traits reflect that. Eren has gone off the rails in his thirst for vengeance/equality/whatever drives him, Armin is becoming cold and ruthless, Mikasa is headed towards a point where she will have to make a big decision, Sasha's dead (
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I expect a bittersweet one because Isayama did mention that bit about dropping the meanspirited kill 'em all ending.
I think several will die, but in the end humanity inside the walls will survive and will manage to intigrate into the world.
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While probably still bittersweet, I do hope that part of the ending is the extermination of all the titans.
I think the fact that people claim she only cares for Eren at this point is complete bs. I've seen people twist this crap, too. Oh she only cares about Armin, Sasha etc because of Eren. No she doesn't. She jumps to their rescue because she cares about everyone. She's just extra protective of Eren because he saved her and he's tied to her childhood trauma of losing two families within the span of a year. (Also Eren's mother's last wish to her was that she would protect Eren.)
I still do think she is pretty basic compared to some other characters (especially since she is one of the main characters). Don't agree she's only Eren-centric, though.
Her relationship with Armin totally needs more love, though. Such an underappreciated part of the story.
Mikasa does care about other people, especially Armin, but it doesn't change the fact that she's obsessed with Eren. If she had to choose she'd probably choose Eren over all the others, even though it might break her heart.
I guess what we all want is just more characterization for Mikasa.
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Here's why it's getting good: the characters are no longer stagnant.
I didn't really like the fact that Isayama skipped years and took a shortcut for character development (for instance: Eren getting colder over the years, Mikasa being more objective)/
But looking back, that was a shallow perspective on things.
The 7 years might not have much that happened but the years before Erwin's death had impacted the characters a whole lot more than they themselves and us as readers realize.Eren has not been only betrayed once but twice, thrice if you count his father lying to him and using him to continue his own agency(much like he did to Zeke).
All the while humanity were more than afraid and ready to snap off his neck if he showed any sign of rebellion.
Note that all this happens in a span of a few months and less than a year or two.
Can we really blame the dude for not taking a Naruto-esque or Jesus-like approach to the situation?
Let's not forget the many times his trust in the scouts is broken.But the beautiful thing here is that Eren is not right. He is fucking flawed.
The insult and breakdown of his character given to him when he tried to justify saving Armin speak volumes about his character.
His anger is growing and a huge part of that anger seems to be getting misdirected. What exactly is he fighting for? What is his end goal?
We knew that freedom and total extermination of Titans was his dream but now that his entire world was turned upside down, what is his plan?
He once wished for humanity's freedom but now THEY are the biggest threat to said freedom.
It's intriguing precisely because we as readers are still not in the know about what he is really planning.On the contrary, Armin and Hange perspective feels naive but it's the ideal that feels the most morally right.
But we as readers know that there is no way that Marley will take them seriously. Heck they will pulverize them with or without the threat of Paradis just so their own nation can obtain the power to stand against external forces.
When you are a small island and more than half the continent wishes to obliterate you, shoving "let's be friends" just isn't going to work.
However, it is not entirely impossible but extremely complex and difficult to do so while at the same time it is the right path and the path that will can stop the cycle of hatred.It is idealistic yes but not completely impractical provided that Paradise is able to utilize all their resources and come up the right measures.
Of course idiots like the corrupted wealthy groups, stupid decisions, and rage over rationality people isn't going to help.
The problem with their side is currently this: Armin is too inexperienced and hesitant and Hange seems to have a whole bag of problems.
Until they get their shit together, whatever ideals they hold are as deep as a puddle.On the other hand, Zeke and Eren seems pretty clear about what they want to achieve and at this point of time, any means justify the ends for them.
Don't shit on Mikasa. She has grown a lot from being an obsessive character. Like Kizuchan mentioned, she is a character of her own and out of EMA, it always feels like she is the one that will be taking the "3rd perspective" on thing.
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While probably still bittersweet, I do hope that part of the ending is the extermination of all the titans.
Mikasa does care about other people, especially Armin, but it doesn't change the fact that she's obsessed with Eren. If she had to choose she'd probably choose Eren over all the others, even though it might break her heart.
I guess what we all want is just more characterization for Mikasa.
I like to think choosing to choose Eren over others despite being clear that his plan will ruin a whole bunch of stuff and turning her back on her comrades is a sign of her character and development.
It seems stupid to choose to stick with someone despite knowing that you don't entirely agree with him and that he's getting thousands killed.She is obsessed with Eren because out of anyone in the squad or in the world for the matter, she understands him the most.
Remember that she was saved because of Eren's courage and was given a home.
It's not a mental illness or anything, she understands that she is indebted to him and maybe some of those feelings are love BUT at the same time she is not so blinded to let those feelings overcome everything.
Instead she choose to believe that Eren at his core, never changed from that kind boy that saved him when she was a kid.Is it really naivety or foolishness when it really is faith? Even if that faith help sets the world on fire, I don't think Mikasa will ever regret siding with him.
People keep saying Armin is a counter to Eren or that he understands Eren the most and will be the one who stops him.
In fact, look at how fast he is able to out right decide that they will replace Eren in the off chance that he goes off what they want him to do.
Reverse the roles and I don't think Eren will do the same, not that fast anyway. Remember, he'll fight the scouts just to save his life.
Armin's not in the wrong for doing so, Isayama has been building Armin to be such: someone who places the priority of the masses over the importance of one. Calculative even.
Although he of all people(excluding Mikasa) should understand the torment Eren is going through. I think his experiences and him killing civilians has made him guilty and is now inclining towards viewing Eren more as weapon
than his old friend.
See, they are polar opposites at the very core.Mikasa is the one who understands Eren the most because she has been looking at him all this time.
It might be an obsession once but now it's more than that.….Or maybe I'm overthinking it too much and she's just another Sakura.
...Nah.
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Yeah, I really do want more Mikasa.
I think she's interesting because on the surface she's the typical cool badass waifu character, but her attachment to Eren and her relationship with him is quite complex and human.
Their relationship starts off as a codependancy, meaning they sort of boost each other's unhealthy behaviours. Mikasa is so protective of Eren because he keeps putting himself in danger and Eren keeps putting himself in danger because he wants to be the badass Mikasa is and prove he doesn't need help or protection from anyone.
Neither realizes this until chapter 50, when Mikasa truly supports Eren as a person instead of just always being so protective of him. By the end of the Uprising arc Eren equally realizes he should take care of himself more because his mother, Mikasa and everyone else don't consider him weak, they just want him to be safe. He admits that he was jealous of Mikasa.
You can see this newly built trust reach it's high point when Eren and Mikasa take out the Armoured and Colossal Titans. They have their part to play and they do it perfectly.
Of course Mikasa would trust him considering their growth. It's also probably part of why she's so heartbroken over his actions. Armin sort of learns to be more pragmatic in comparison. Surely he cares about Eren, but the bigger picture is much more important. Eren acting on his own is a big blow to the group's trust of him. He effectively used them because of his status and importance. They had no choice but to act, otherwise they probably could've lost their biggest weapon.
…and then they don't even understand why/the though process behind his actions.
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….Or maybe I'm overthinking it too much and she's just another Sakura.
...Nah.
Oh dear no, I would never call her THAT.
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She'd light years beyond Sakura. She gets to be up front in the action. And she's always been shown as one of the top fighters. I don't think anyone would ever think of her that way lol.
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She'd light years beyond Sakura. She gets to be up front in the action. And she's always been shown as one of the top fighters. I don't think anyone would ever think of her that way lol.
She only superior from a fighting standpoint in the sense that she's generally useful in that area. From a character standpoint Sakura is superior which is sad. Mikasa as a character is bland and boring. There isn't much to her if you take Eren out of the equation. She's hardly even an important character to the story & that's been masked only because she's the lead female.
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You can dislike her character but she's pretty dang plot important considering she's the reason most of them are still alive.
-She saved Eren from being choked to death as a kid.
-If she hadn't been there to throw that blade away from Armin, he probably would've gone and offed himself. Which would change the story a lot.
-She distracted Annie enough for her to not get away before Levi arrived.
-If she hadn't hesitated with Reiner and Bertholt, the story would be very different right now. (Again, she very obviously cares for characters aside from Eren)
-If she hadn't defeated Reiner with her attack in Shiganshina, the cast in the near vicinity would most likely be dead. (So, Jean, Connie, Sasha, Hange, Mikasa herself)
To go a little further, as a consequence, everyone would probably be killed because of Reiner.
-If she hadn't saved Eren in Marley, the story would probably be much more different as well.
-She's the connection to Hizuru.You can dislike her character, but she is actually very plot important.
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Everyone here is okay about Historia?
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The whole thing with Historia could end up a complete mess storytelling-wise if not handled carefully.
She's attracted to girls so that's one potential can of worms. Her character arc was about not being a pawn anymore so character regression is another potential problem.
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-She saved Eren from being choked to death as a kid.
-If she hadn't been there to throw that blade away from Armin, he probably would've gone and offed himself. Which would change the story a lot.
-She distracted Annie enough for her to not get away before Levi arrived.
-If she hadn't hesitated with Reiner and Bertholt, the story would be very different right now. (Again, she very obviously cares for characters aside from Eren)
-If she hadn't defeated Reiner with her attack in Shiganshina, the cast in the near vicinity would most likely be dead. (So, Jean, Connie, Sasha, Hange, Mikasa herself)
To go a little further, as a consequence, everyone would probably be killed because of Reiner.
-If she hadn't saved Eren in Marley, the story would probably be much more different as well.
-She's the connection to Hizuru.You can dislike her character, but she is actually very plot important.
You're blowing small & even hypothetical situations out of proportion & using knock on effects she had nothing to do with to make her seem more important that she really is.
She barely shows up and when she does she hardly has dialog & she rarely interacts with other characters. She slowly started fading into the background after the first arc and after the clash of the titans arc she completed her transition into a background character who's importance is barely higher than Connie's or Sasha's was. She's only good for action scenes.
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I think most of that stuff effects the plot pretty massively - if she wasn't there the story would be very different. That is what plot importance means.
How much would removing that particular character change the story? In Mikasa's case a lot. She helped in a bunch of stuff in crucial ways which I really don't think is blowing stuff out of proportion.
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Oh, Mikasa is definitely important to the story (if nothing else, we wouldn't have taken down Annie without her). It's just the characterization we want more of.
As for Historia . . . I dunno. On the one hand you can consider it one of those heavy duties of royalty to keep the bloodline going, on the other hand, you have to wonder what made her decide to do it now.
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You're blowing small & even hypothetical situations out of proportion & using knock on effects she had nothing to do with to make her seem more important that she really is.
She barely shows up and when she does she hardly has dialog & she rarely interacts with other characters. She slowly started fading into the background after the first arc and after the clash of the titans arc she completed her transition into a background character who's importance is barely higher than Connie's or Sasha's was. She's only good for action scenes.
Yeah you can say the same for idk every single of the recruits?
Following your logic: every side character are shallow cutouts, why is Connie and Jean still needed? They had their moments already. Damn, must be underutilized characters and terribly developed.
What's the point of Levi? He didn't have much of a development either.
Let's insert "life transforming scene" here for Mikasa and then we'll slap it on and call it development.
Of course she's only good for action scenes! Why else would we need someone to point out Eren's changing behavior, why else would we need her perspective and see her subtle changes? Obviously it is not necessary for her to give her viewpoint because it contributes nothing to the plot at all.
She's just a stalkerish stereotypical female in your eyes that obviously only fight for Eren and only care about Eren in your eyes.
Screw those interractions she had with the other soldiers and people besides Eren for once and screw her being hesitant in defending Eren.
She's just a midget titan spinner amirite.Sasha was fun but she had no stake in the upcoming events.
She is well loved by the fans and the characters but Isayama didn't think her through or felt it unnecessary to develop her further since many, many chapters ago.
Her death helped moved the plot and keeping her alive won't unless Isayama spent a large amount of time to do so which he chose not to.
In the case of Mikasa, Isayama had set up various stuff for her long ago. He had been inserting relevancy into her character on purpose.She's not a deep enough character that we can debate a huge number of posts about but neither is any single one of the characters in AoT.
All form of drastic character developments was only used to move the plot and the world-building/history. It's a pattern that you have been used in story-telling albeit Isayama has been overdoing so.
If you are going to raise up the fact that she feels like a one-note character and a background deus ex machina, you better raise points to make it sound reasonable instead of twisting stereotypical assumptions to suit your argument.
Because from how things are going, every single one of them feels stagnant as fuck until now and that's not entirely on the author's because he chose to take the plot in this direction.
Eren is a walking plot device because that's the entire point. He's being developed the most because I don't know, he's the main character and probably Nuclear Hitler.
Comparing anyone to him in terms of development is impossible.
All those "developed" characters with "thick" backstories and characterizations are either- dead
or 2) Reiner(for PLOT).
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Hmmm. Some odd musical choice happened this episode. Did they do rap music before? It feels out of place lol.
Also Eren is the worst at this point lol.
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! Okay. I'm not much into crazy cartoon conspiracy theories. But if this one turns out to be true even after what's currently happening in the manga. I have to question how the hell can you plan this shit the moment Eren is born?!?!? http://yaboylevi.tumblr.com/post/177729619276/yaboylevi-my-theory-has-been-for-a-while-now
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I haven't looked into this series in years, is Eren still the angriest anime character of all time?
I mean seriously, that kid needs a fucking chill pill.
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I haven't looked into this series in years, is Eren still the angriest anime character of all time?
I mean seriously, that kid needs a fucking chill pill.
He's gone from firecracker " I hate the titans" to more of an ice cold "victory by any means necessary" type
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It feels more like "Those soulless murderous Titans must die!" to "Those humans/scum must die because of my heritage!". He probably inheritted some of those extreme thoughts from his former Titan users I guess, but considering his very character… yeah
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A nice comment I found on reddit about Mikasa's turmoil in this chapter
! > Ah, so it’s as many of us suspected. Louise, the new recruit, is in fact the little girl that Mikasa saved at the Trost gates, so many years ago. And her little speech here… it’s just dripping with references to Mikasa’s personal story and predicament. So let’s break it down bit by bit, shall we?Ever since you saved my life that day, I have not changed. After seeing you defeat a titan with human strength, I realized that you can’t protect anything without strength. I learned that when faced with senseless violence, you can fight. You were saved too, right? By Mr. Yeager. Starting about halfway through, we see that Louise’s backstory parallels Mikasa’s. As a child, Louise was placed in a terrible position, seconds away from being trampled to death by a monster with no regard for her life, helpless to fight back. But she was saved – saved by a girl who, as far as Louise knew, was a person just like herself. One that chose to fight back against an impossible-seeming threat, rather than let herself meekly die. If you do not fight, Louise learned, you cannot win. Since that day, I’ve wanted to be near you. I… What’s the reason you joined the Survey Corps? And like Mikasa, Louise seems to have latched on to her savior, the person who inadvertently caused her to adapt this philosophy, almost immediately. And from what I can tell, it’s being heavily implied that she joined the SC primarily to be near Mikasa, the woman who taught her the philosophy she’s come to live by. The woman who taught her to fight. Their backstories, it seems, are nearly identical. And both women in that room know it.
Now let’s jump back to the start.Have you been in this cell as well? This line is interesting, because Louise isn’t really asking her if she’s visited that particular cell. She’s asking if Mikasa’s ever been locked up – specifically, if Mikasa’s ever done anything along the lines of what Louise just did. Here, Mikasa says she hasn’t. But we all know that that isn’t true, right?….Is that so. That’s a pity. But still, I don’t regret breaching military conduct. If victory is the Survey Corps’ ultimate goal, some rules have to be broken to achieve it. Louise is in this cell because she went against orders. Breaching military conduct. And that’s also what Mikasa was locked up for, so many years ago. Lashing out against Levi, and disobeying the orders of her superior officer. I suspect that Louise, who worships Mikasa and who follows Floch, must know that Mikasa’s lying. That Mikasa once broke the rules as well. She must think herself quite like Mikasa, with the matching philosophies and joining the SC and the disobeying of orders. To me, it seems as if she’s attempting to copy her – right down to flashing her the military’s salute as Mikasa leaves the cell.Unfortunately for Louise, she has some things about Mikasa all wrong.If it was for Mr. Yeager, his freedom…
So let’s answer Louise’s question, shall we? Why did Mikasa join the SC? We were told this in the very first volume – Mikasa joined to be with Eren. On the porch, the night of graduation, she told him that she would follow him into the SC, or the MP, or the Garrison, if that was his decision. It was an act of love, not valor. And this is also true of Mikasa’s reason for going against orders – not to achieve the SC’s goal, but to protect and save Armin, her important friend. It was not an act done with the intention of bettering humanity, but again, one of love.So Louise is wrong. Mikasa never wanted to be a hero, and she never desired freedom - at least, not the way Eren sees it. The freedom Mikasa sees is different. Mikasa’s freedom is a peaceful life with her loved ones - with Eren, and Armin, and JSC. Mikasa’s freedom is freedom from cold and loneliness. Mikasa’s freedom is not Eren’s freedom, exactly – it might be more accurate to say her freedom is Eren himself.And so she sees this girl, so similar to her and yet so different, and she wonders. If this girl, who only wanted to be near me and who lives her life to follow me, can be so wrong about me, could I have been wrong about Eren, too? Have I made a grave mistake?Cue the headache, as she realizes. Remember what Mikasa’s headaches mean:_This again. I’m losing my family again._Oh, Mika. Hang in there, girl.
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Interesting bit with Mikasa and Louise.
Gabby is straight up stupid.
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I hate Gabi!
Great bit on the Mikasa parallel.
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This is what happens when people are raised by the government or the church to believe one thing without ever being allowed to think otherwise. Poor Gabi has always been told Eldians are devils, she has never been told to think otherwise. It's like old Christians who were convinced Jews were devils because they abandoned Jesus, never thinking that "hey, these guys have never even met Jesus". Hell there are still Christians who believe Jews are evil.
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This is what happens when people are raised by the government or the church to believe one thing without ever being allowed to think otherwise. Poor Gabi has always been told Eldians are devils, she has never been told to think otherwise. It's like old Christians who were convinced Jews were devils because they abandoned Jesus, never thinking that "hey, these guys have never even met Jesus". Hell there are still Christians who believe Jews are evil.
There are also many current religions who view other people as devils. I like how this manga tries to show us how stupid and naive such way of thinking is.
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! Okay. I'm not much into crazy cartoon conspiracy theories. But if this one turns out to be true even after what's currently happening in the manga. I have to question how the hell can you plan this shit the moment Eren is born?!?!? http://yaboylevi.tumblr.com/post/177729619276/yaboylevi-my-theory-has-been-for-a-while-now
Seems like the post is gone, mind explaining in spoiler tags what it was about?
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Yah, can't be mad at Gabby right now. Retroactivelly I will if she dares to hurt the new girl, but that stupid hate that trascends generations? I don't understand it, but I can't say that it is stupid or illogical, these adjectives fall short against the face of indoctrination. That we were raised with ethical core beliefs (Do onto others how you want to be treated, don't make enemies, be kind, etc) wouldn't make it less painful, awful or paralizing to see those beliefs torn down.
What I want to see is how this secret madagascar kingdom and the crimes of the Eldian empire go with the imperialist tone of the early series.
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Anyone else like me thinks Gabi should be the one to inherit the Attack Titan? She's no different than Eren was back then, so full of bitterness and a desire for revenge. But unlike him, Gabi doesn't know the whole truth, the real reason behind Marley's attack on the Eldians.
It would be the ultimate irony. And it would also no doubt cause Gabi such a massive breakdown she would do a 180 and turn against Marley. For someone who has been indoctrinated since her childhood, the backslash would be brutal.
Just my two cents.
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By no means I think Gabi is being portrayed wrongfully under the indoctrination view, I just find the way she express herself in the situation she is in idiotic and suicidal. She is basically begging to be shot.
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That is fair, she's being very unsubtle, and considering their cover of war orphans, she is getting by with the implied simpathy from others, but she should easily dial it back, or do something more isolation oriented to keep the facade.
But that is nitpicking.
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By no means I think Gabi is being portrayed wrongfully under the indoctrination view, I just find the way she express herself in the situation she is in idiotic and suicidal. She is basically begging to be shot.
Which is what basically what nearly all the Marley people would love to see happen to the Eldians.
But again this is also part of the fact that Gabi is just a kid. She's even younger than Eren and co. were when they joined the military. It's practically like turning children into suicide bombers.
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Seems like the post is gone, mind explaining in spoiler tags what it was about?
WHAT! It's gone…
Dangit!
Well, it was a theory on how Eren can connect his Titan past lives somehow in some weird time travel crap. It makes more sense if you had read the link. But since its gone. I don't know why they remove it.....
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tldr; Whenever Eren blacks out, that's future Eren doing stuff.
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This chapter hurts me so much.
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This chapter hurts me so much.
Sasha you sweet innocent child.She was too good for this world.
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Gabi is about to have a meeting with the Braus family. Surely things cannot go further south for her, right?
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I wonder if Sasha had to go for the sake of Gabi's development or if the author simply figured it was time to take one of the main cast… either way, wrong choice :/
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Weren't you all "Sasha has no more place in this manga anymore" a while ago?
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Ugh, watching the new anime episode while eating definitely wasn't a good idea.
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Jesus Christ. Episode 46 was extremely gory and fucked up to watch lol.
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Eren has come a long way.
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Levi is not popular?
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So S3 is the peak of historia do we consider what happened to her lately character regression or misplaced strength? Because it sort of feels like she's not doing what she wants after throwing away her reckless persona but maybe she's just more dedicated to ending this war after fonding out the history. Looking for opinions?
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I don't think we've seen enough of her to judge tbh. We saw one scene.
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Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the monthly release schedule is really making it hard to follow the story at this point. I'm at a loss as to how a revolution with Eren as the central figure has formed and why they go against the eldian military. If it's because he's seen as a hero by the broad population for his actions in Marley, how did they even get this information? And still, why go against their own government? For not pushing the war efforts against Marley enough? I really need to reread the current arc in one sitting once it's finished. Also, was that Pieck at the end of the chapter? How did she get into Paradis?