Pokemon's Fifth Generation

Bobjr

If you're using it to battle double team is illegal, I would put Drain Punch in there instead. I would also consider Shadow Sneak over Night Slash for the priority also.

Robby

@Bobjr:

If you're using it to battle double team is illegal, I would put Drain Punch in there instead. I would also consider Shadow Sneak over Night Slash for the priority also.

This is why tournament rules are retarded.

It's not even remotely a broken move, (since it takes 3 or 4 shots before the evasion becomes at all decent) and theres a ton of counters for it. "Oh no, heaven's forbid if you use a strategy that doesn't involve hitting the opponent really hard that relies on chance! Chance and risk is a terrible thing to have in a game!"

I can almost understand banning the auto-rain ability because it boosts so many things in so many different ways as a passive ability, but… if rain teams are popular... there's counters for that too and things that aren't being used can be brought into regular play as counters.

Bobjr

Well I know they ban something if it over-centralizes the competitive game, but sometimes I don't get why some things are banned. I doubt that many people would use evasion moves anyway if they were legal, but I doubt that'll ever change.

RomanceDawn

I hate the ban of double team for competitive battling. During the days of Gold and Silver I had at least one attack on my team that couldn't miss as well as Haze to get rid of the boosts.

Kaboom

I hate Double Team with a passion (chalk it up to having horrible luck with those kinds of moves), so my just now learning that it's banned in tournaments actually makes me very giddy and perhaps a tiny bit aroused.

…Not like I battle competitively anyway.

Robby

It would be significant if evasion/agility was an actual stat on the critter where you could have actual numbers and know what you were increasing it by… but instead its entirely up to the accuracy of the move. So even after wasting two rounds of not attacking you've still only lowered accuracy by 20%. I can understand if you sit there and let something use double team the maximum of seven times and just keep missing while it sets up... thats pure bad luck. (I understand people have that problem with wild emolgas?) But if you can't beat something that fast, you're doing it wrong anyway.

I mean, its such a useless move that basically everything in the game can learn it through TM, even SHUCKLE! That's how common and easily beatable and NOT broken it is. I think the Unnown and Wobbufett are the only things that can't.

(Minimize is a much much better move, but its rarer. And also banned.)

Same reason no one EVER uses sand attack. Its basically useless without many many rounds behind it, or maybe an ability boosting it.

Smogon's excuse.

Double Team is a banned move from the competitive scene. It breaks the Evasion Clause that is generically applied to all Smogon battles. It was considered unhealthy for a skill-based metagame, since it rewards luck instead of skill, while taking the battle from both players' control and making the game (even more) luck based. It often created situations where the crucial miss changed the outcome of a match. For these reasons it is never seen in this competitive environment.

Again, given that you have to use a round or two to set it up first… there's skill involved there. And really, if it was a regular feature instead of a banned thing, every team would have at least one sure-hit move to deal with it... and then it would stop getting used. Its such a stupid complaint.

And yet they don't frown upon Absol's Super Luck which gets criticals up to 50% of the time when he has a scope item attached... because they ban the scope item. What the hell.

Bobjr

I even remember when people would even ask for a "freeze clause", something that can't even be controlled.

Hiroy

This is why I love random wifi. There's rage quiters, sure… but no one cares for those dumb rules anyways. I played agianst many teams that attempted to abuse Double Team and failed. That's because I abuse the hell out of Confusion... which is basivally acts like a temp evasion boost(it's either they hit you or miss=hits self) with free damage.

That and I really feel like these rules are only made to satisfy those that just relies on sweeping without any hinderance or distraction. That... is not very interesting at all(or skillful)

Gliblord

Behold, the best battle narrator:

Bobjr

This is probably my favorite narrator, along with one of the best matches recorded out there.

Hiroy

Stall matches are fun. Especiall when both sides are aware of stalling.

There was this one match I had in where we were serfing into eachother's Water Absorbs for 15 minutes. No reason. Too bad PBR or any game with random online does not have a feature to stay in touch with opponets.

KaizokuJinbei

Anyone have a Deoxys they are willing to trade or can trade to me for Pokedex data?

Aaronrules380

With the exception of 6 event legendaries (Deoxys, Shaymin, Arceus, and the three new events that haven't been released) I have finally completed the National Pokedex.

KaizokuJinbei

http://en.pokemon-gl.com/information/?infoto=307

For those who don't have an Arceus and want one now is the opportunity to get one via Dream World

C_uggs

I have the password, but I don´t know where I have put it.

maxterdexter

Pokemon GL Page, bottom right, something like "Promotions"

KaizokuJinbei

@captain:

I have the password, but I don´t know where I have put it.

http://en.pokemon-gl.com/campaign/

If the link doesn't take you to where you need to go. Like Maxter said there is an orange rectangular box that says promotions on the Global Link main page click it then it should be easy from there.

–- Update From New Post Merge ---

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/02/02/nintendo-zone-adds-pokemon-episodes-and-game-demos/

Nintendo Zone adds Pokemon game demos and Pokemon episodes

C_uggs

I already befriended with arceus, but I can´t go to the dream world (no connection.)

Bad luck.

KaizokuJinbei

That sucks. But it's worth it lol

C_uggs

Here is my Kabutops (Lvl:55) moveset:

Mega Drain (Giga, when I found it)
Leer
Rock Slide
Scald

Any sugestions ?

KaizokuJinbei

Well idk if it is good but this is mine if it helps

Kabutops Male LV 100

Adamant Nature
Swift Swim Ability

MOVES
Swords Dance
Aqua Tail
Stone Edge
Aqua Jet

Bobjr

Best Kabutops moveset would be:

Aqua Jet
Stone Edge/Rock Slide
Waterfall
Swords Dance/Stealth Rock

RPGJay

Ah finally, save for those 3 event Pokemon in Black/White that haven't been officially released yet my Pokedex is full once more.

Feels good to have it full this generation~

C_uggs

Hey, I´m sorry to post here (I don´t know if I should post in the BW2 thread)…yeah..¬¬

I would like a Skarmory (Male, name: Stahleolo) and a Pichu (Male, name: Idol).

My FC:1077-4563-8861

Once again, sorry to un-dig this thread.

Many thanks.

Hekti

Sorry for bumping the thread but I am near completing my Unova Dex just need some Pokemon, I can't get via GTS because I've never seen them.
Of course, most of them are legendaries and I don't really care for them, just need the Dex entry if no one want to trade it permanently.

The Pokemon are:
Victini (Dex entry, though I like it so I wouldn't mind keeping it lol)
Vullaby (I have White so this I really need and want to keep it since I like the design)
Tornadus (Dex entry and to activate the in-game event for Landorus)

The Pokemon after Kyurem aren't released yet right?

KaizokuJinbei

@Hekti:

Sorry for bumping the thread but I am near completing my Unova Dex just need some Pokemon, I can't get via GTS because I've never seen them.
Of course, most of them are legendaries and I don't really care for them, just need the Dex entry if no one want to trade it permanently.

The Pokemon are:
Victini (Dex entry, though I like it so I wouldn't mind keeping it lol)
Vullaby (I have White so this I really need and want to keep it since I like the design)
Tornadus (Dex entry and to activate the in-game event for Landorus)

The Pokemon after Kyurem aren't released yet right?

Might be able to help with victini but i can't trade it for keeps just to let you get the data then i'll need it back

Hekti

Yeah after getting the data I can try out getting Victini via GTS so that'd be cool if you can help me with that.
I'm sending you a PM when I have time for the trade. I guess on the weekend

Jazzy Jinx

I can help you out with getting Vullaby and Tornadus (though I'd like my Tornadus back after you get Landrous). And I'd be willing to give you Victini if you have any previous gen legendaries to trade.~

Hekti

Yeah that's nice but since I skipped generation 3 and 4 I think I don't have any legendaries.
I play HeartGold atm but until I see/catch a legendary on this copy it takes time since I started a new job today.

But Dex entry is just fine for the legendaries (I don't use them anyway ;) ).
Sunday I have a day off at work so I'll PM you on saturday I guess.

KaizokuJinbei

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/08/pokemon-distribution-keldeo-incoming-finally

For those who want Keldo.

Hiroy

I wonder why does Nintendo wait so damned long to officially make these things available via Mystery Gift.

Robby

@Hiroy:

I wonder why does Nintendo wait so damned long to officially make these things available via Mystery Gift.

To keep the product fresh in people's minds, excited and thinking about it for the 2-3 years between games.

Its not really Nintendo's fault people hacked the game minutes after it came out so we've known the extra three legendaries for almost 2 years now.

GetsugaZoro

And to go along with the anime, they release one each year with a movie and promote the shit out of them.

This time they actually realeased the 3 "secret" legendaries at the same time or almost at the same time since Genosect is being released in September I believe.

Crossword

Well, now I can say that I've encountered (and caught) my third wild Shiny, a Minum. Hoping for something more impressive, but I'll take what I can get.

Hekti

Anyone got a Keldeon already? It seems all the shops in my area which should give it away don't…

KaizokuJinbei

@Hekti:

Anyone got a Keldeon already? It seems all the shops in my area which should give it away don't…

I got mine fine it's a Gamestop event were you at the right shop?

Robby

@Hekti:

Anyone got a Keldeon already? It seems all the shops in my area which should give it away don't…

Long as the gamestop you go by has wifi, you should be able to get it from thin air in front of the store, you don't even have to go in or ask or anything. But it needs to be a gamestop, they're the ones that have the promo.

Make sure your DS' wifi is setup properly though, that's key.

zachri

Apparently the Keldeo event is being held in Middlesborough tomorrow… probably won't be able to get it. it was in Newcastle a few days ago. OTL.

Nia

@Hekti:

Anyone got a Keldeon already? It seems all the shops in my area which should give it away don't…

Yepp, got mine yesterday.
We stood in front of the Gamestop, but it didn't work, so we asked them. Turns out they had to activate it first (they don't just leave it on all the time). But the Gamestop we went to is pretty deserted, so if you go to a more popular one you might not even have to talk to anyone, like Robby said.

Robby

I might actually use Keldeo in BW2. Water/fighting type is interesting, and I kinda lie the look of it… and its not as broken as some legendaries.

But... I never use legendaries in-game. Always feels too... broken.

Kaboom

I'm trying to decide on a water-type for White 2 as well, and Keldeo here is a tempting choice. I normally don't use legendaries either, but Keldeo seems like one of those not-too-overpowered "semi-legendaries." So I probably would use it, just like I used Victini in my White playthrough for a while.

But my inability to give it a nickname is a big detractor.