Aw son of a bitch:ninja:
Berserk
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Aw son of a bitch:ninja:
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BTW they kept the same anime team and director.
Ready for Clang 2.0?
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Dang,it is about time we get manga chapters.If Miura can't churn out some chapters in April-May,there is little chance to get another set of chapters before the year end.
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This is worse than Season 1 first PV..
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Just come to terms with the fact that Berserk is never going to get any up-to-par adaptation, and this shitty-cgi will start looking decent.
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They cleaned it up for the blu ray anyway.
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Just come to terms with the fact that Berserk is never going to get any up-to-par adaptation, and this shitty-cgi will start looking decent.
I would be happy if the likes of Pierrot or Toei pick it up.
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I would be happy if the likes of Pierrot or Toei pick it up.
Maybe Pierrot or Madhouse, but definitely not Toei.
But at this point, i have simply accepted that Berserk just can't be adapted into the anime while still retaining the overall quality of the manga both writing-wise, and art-wise.
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Cant wait how they will fuck up the fights vs Zodd, Grundelt.
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http://i.imgur.com/WxDLvcK.png
Cant wait how they will fuck up the fights vs Zodd, Grundelt.
These guys got the reverse Midas touch.
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So supposedly the magazine will be out in Japan on March 24th so there is chance that we might get the scans week or two before the anime release.
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http://i.imgur.com/WxDLvcK.png
Cant wait how they will fuck up the fights vs Zodd, Grundelt.
I can't help but think of
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PV 2
I hope that isnt the OP song, sounds horrible.
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bad news then
The official website for the new TV anime adaptation project based on Kentaro Miura's dark fantasy manga Berserk announced today that four-member Japanese rock band 9mm Parabellum Bullet provides their newly-written song "Sacrifice" as the OP theme song for its upcoming second season
it is the OP
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…aaand nothing seems to have improved.
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I'm not really liking this animation. It's too awkward a mesh of hand-drawn and CGI.
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We all gotta live with the fact that Berserk will NEVER get a faithful adaptation , be it in video game form, movie or anime.
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We all gotta live with the fact that Berserk will NEVER get a faithful adaptation , be it in video game form, movie or anime.
Yeahhhhhh that's not exactly a bad thing especially if you're not into rape.
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So in anticipation of the new chapter, I decided to read through the series from scratch again to look for things I had forgotten or otherwise missed. I just got to the Wyald subarc and I had forgotten just how much I hated this part of the series. It's baffling how crude and disgusting the whole ordeal is. I mean, if there is one improvement the anime and movie adaptations have done it is to leave this whole thing out. My god, it almost pisses me off that this stuff is in the series in the first place.
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Just found some spoilers! :)
http://www.mangasail.com/content/berserk-348
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
So in anticipation of the new chapter, I decided to read through the series from scratch again to look for things I had forgotten or otherwise missed. I just got to the Wyald subarc and I had forgotten just how much I hated this part of the series. It's baffling how crude and disgusting the whole ordeal is. I mean, if there is one improvement the anime and movie adaptations have done it is to leave this whole thing out. My god, it almost pisses me off that this stuff is in the series in the first place.
As a purist it bothers me that the arc was cut. :/ adapt everything I say.
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That imagery, and symbolism is so fucking strong.
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Thanks for the spoilers! :happy:
Still not a fan of this new digital art style. I wish that he would go back to the Conviction Arc art style soon, this one looks too…. stiff an unnatural for me, especially with those thick lines.
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korean scan.
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Hey, you need to put this under a spoiler tag. The chapter is NOT out yet.
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Sorry, i saw the english translations, and thought the chapter was out.
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Chapter is out.
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So Miura creates a metaphorical image and Schierke and Farnese meticulously explain it.
Hmm…let's hope for a bit more substance next chapter.
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And now, guts will be a dog for a years time at least.
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And now, guts will be a dog for a years time at least.
True,it won't be solved in next 6 chapters and 7 chapters are most what we can expect in a year:happy:.
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And now, guts will be a dog for a years time at least.
Is there supposed to be a difference? :ninja:
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@Count:
Is there supposed to be a difference? :ninja:
Yeah there is. Dog Guts is his 10% forme which has an emphasis on his speed stat.
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@Purple:
Yeah there is. Dog Guts is his 10% forme which has an emphasis on his speed stat.
I suppose this revelation means that Guts' bebe is the Core Form.
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does this mean that Perfect Guts will become huge enough to combat the threat of the Ultra Hands?
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@Purple:
Yeah there is. Dog Guts is his 10% forme which has an emphasis on his speed stat.
Okay that's a +1.
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Yeahhhhhh that's not exactly a bad thing especially if you're not into rape.
haha huhu hehe, yeah funny. take that aside and they still won't adapt anythig else correctly.
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I'll at least give the 90s anime props for focusing on what actually mattered in the Golden Age at least
that is to say, the character dynamics of Guts, Griffith, and Cascathere was some plot holes here and there (Skull Knight where are you), but it's still a good watch if you want character politics and not just buff man tuff guy action
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I still don't expect that we will see the end of the story,but at least Casca issue is now going to be resolved…
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I still don't expect that we will see the end of the story,but at least Casca issue is now going to be resolved…
Why wouldn't we? Muira still manages a volume a year more or less, and the man is only 50 so he's got time. And after Griffith merged the worlds, and Guts has his best armor and weapons and Caska is healed, we're pretty much ready to jump into the endgame.
Said engame will obviously take a while, and if you expect Muira to adress every single last thing and have Guts fight every single last battle one by one, that'll take forever sure… but if we assume the world is getting a timeskip (and they must since elf island is set up to allow just that) to give time for Rickerts and the other kids to grow up...) then they just need to run into Falconia, have an army battle some big monsters, face Griffith, and then eventually go to fight the source of evil.
Really if you assume fighting the source of evil will be the way to deal with things, rather than fighting each unstoppable god individually in their own five year arc. then we could be finished in as little as about 100 chapters, a decade or so. (And I know, 100 chapters may seem lke nothing in terms of One Piece or Naruto, but the entire Golden Age arc was about 100 chapters. Can do a lot in that space.)
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haha huhu hehe, yeah funny. take that aside and they still won't adapt anythig else correctly.
Of course they're not going to adapt anything else correctly, as when adapting a story it's not going to generally be a 1:1 adaptation.
And given where most of the criticism over the movies and the new show lie no one seems to really care.
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Honestly, Wyald doesn't even contribute anything beyond providing a means for Guts to break his sword before the Eclipse
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While we're on the topic: Were there any specific reasons why the 90s anime's ending was so shit?
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Why wouldn't we? Muira still manages a volume a year more or less, and the man is only 50 so he's got time. And after Griffith merged the worlds, and Guts has his best armor and weapons and Caska is healed, we're pretty much ready to jump into the endgame.
Said engame will obviously take a while, and if you expect Muira to adress every single last thing and have Guts fight every single last battle one by one, that'll take forever sure… but if we assume the world is getting a timeskip (and they must since elf island is set up to allow just that) to give time for Rickerts and the other kids to grow up...) then they just need to run into Falconia, have an army battle some big monsters, face Griffith, and then eventually go to fight the source of evil.
Really if you assume fighting the source of evil will be the way to deal with things, rather than fighting each unstoppable god individually in their own five year arc. then we could be finished in as little as about 100 chapters, a decade or so. (And I know, 100 chapters may seem lke nothing in terms of One Piece or Naruto, but the entire Golden Age arc was about 100 chapters. Can do a lot in that space.)
My problem is that i still can't see a way for them to fight Griffith.My guess is a unrestrained use of Berserker armour(imbued with some magics of Elf king) should take care of all the apostles,but God Hands seems to be in different league(granted now they are not in astral plane any more and have real bodies).To create a army against Griffith from the scratch will need lots of plot points and developments.Then we need backstories of Gaeseric/Skull Night and for sure it will happen;Miura made him instrumental to the story.Also i too don't expect a fight with individual God Hands,but if fighting against Idea of The Evil is going to take care of everything then we need some sorts of introduction of those four.Miura generally doesn't cut corners.Then there is the behelit that Guts carries and the question of what purpose it serves…
I hope you are right and Miura definitely can neatly wrap this up in 100-120 chapters(by that time he will be 68-71 years of age),but such a unpredictable story always gives uneasiness to me.
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My problem is that i still can't see a way for them to fight Griffith.My guess is a unrestrained use of Berserker armour(imbued with some magics of Elf king) should take care of all the apostles,
Between the merging of the worlds, the stuff Guts already has, wizards, skull knight, magic, etc. he can probably hit them now. And again, I suspect it won't actually be Guts fighting them one on one at all but being dragged into a void to fight the essence of evil itself.
To create a army against Griffith from the scratch will need lots of plot points and developments.
That's already done. Rickerts is being set up with a rebel army and a timeskip. And if the secondary cast leaves the island while Guts and Caska heal they can grow up and build an army too. I'm almost certain Zodd will be on his side at the end rather than against. Plus, thats what Guts has friends for. He doesn't have to fight every single enemy when his allies can get some of the battles.
Honestly, getting to elf island and being told "Time moves quicker on the outside" was the narrative shortcut to cut out 200 chapters of meandering, training, subquests and army building. . ANd Griffith merging the worlds and giving the godhand physical bodies was another huuuuge shortcut to the endgame.
Then we need backstories of Gaeseric/Skull Night and for sure it will happen;Miura made him instrumental to the story.
That in and of itself won't take that long. He's not going to get a Golden Age length arc all to himself. If this was One Piece I would say "Yeah, we're in for a 20 chapter flashback on that" but we're not. A handful of chapters going over his life quickly will do.
Also i too don't expect a fight with individual God Hands,but if fighting against Idea of The Evil is going to take care of everything then we need some sorts of introduction of those four.Miura generally doesn't cut corners.
He generally doesn't, but I imagine that much like Oda, he will start leaving some things on the floor to move the story along. If it was still 20 years ago I'd say "yeah sure we're guaranteed all that stuff" but that's just not the case now. There are tricks and cuts and things an author can do. The final arc will never live up to what's in your head, but I imagine he could do a hell of a lot with 70 or 80 chapters dedicated to it.
Then there is the behelit that Guts carries and the question of what purpose it serves…
That's what lets him get in at the godhand/source of evil/final powerup. There's a ton of little things left to cover and if it were a weekly series on chapter 900 I'd say we're getting around to all of it, but we're not going to. Toss that hope out the door and just hope for a satisfactory conclusion.
I hope you are right and Miura definitely can neatly wrap this up in 100-120 chapters(by that time he will be 68-71 years of age),
Dude only just turned 50. It's not going to take him 20 years. He generally manages a volume a year. He slowed down a lot and did a couple other projects the last couple years including the anime stuff and an entirely different manga, but he still manages about a volume a year. They had him on a monthly schedule for a chunk and that almost worked, but it apparently still takes him about 5 weeks to do a chapter.
7 years ago he was still managing 2 volumes a year. I figure he'll either pick up more assistants or subtly cut back on the art to help speed things up at some point. Just switching to digital format probably increased his pace significantly, I know it did for every single other artist I've worked with.
As for final arc lengths.
For a reasonable comparison. Fullmetal Alchemist. Gave the lengthy origin of its main villain in chapter 74. Between then and the final chapter 108, it had the entire cast reunite, a full scale invasion battle of armies, a third army of mindless soldiers, had full blown major final battles with Greed, Wrath, Envy, Sloth, Pride and Father.. had shining moments and callbacks for basically every single character in the series, tons of action and generally brought about a satisfying end for all the characters. (Your mileage may vary depending on the character.) But it was an epic all out war with tons of characters and it was done well, and in the course of 44 chapters. (And actually the final day didn't start till chapter 83 so… 35 chapters.) Of course, FMA's chapters are a little longer than Berserk's and that final chapter was extra long, but in terms of page count.
The entirety of Nausicaa and all its characters and wars is 60 chapters, 1100 pages. (Around 7 volumes.) To be fair, Nausicaa was jam packed full of panels and dialogue and it would have been longer under other circumstances.
Then you look over at One Piece where 50 chapters is basically just a typical arc at this point and I'll be amazed if its final arc is shorter than 150 chapters.
It varies, but he can absolutely wrap it in if he feels the need. He can't and won't deliver everything we ever dreamed of seeing, so put that hope aside now. But he can do a big epic final battle and resolution in fairly short order with the pieces he has in place already. He can and will take a couple shortcuts if he needs, he already put two huge ones in play.
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Between the merging of the worlds, the stuff Guts already has, wizards, skull knight, magic, etc. he can probably hit them now. And again, I suspect it won't actually be Guts fighting them one on one at all but being dragged into a void to fight the essence of evil itself.
That's already done. Rickerts is being set up with a rebel army and a timeskip. And if the secondary cast leaves the island while Guts and Caska heal they can grow up and build an army too. I'm almost certain Zodd will be on his side at the end rather than against. Plus, thats what Guts has friends for. He doesn't have to fight every single enemy when his allies can get some of the battles.
Honestly, getting to elf island and being told "Time moves quicker on the outside" was the narrative shortcut to cut out 200 chapters of meandering, training, subquests and army building. . ANd Griffith merging the worlds and giving the godhand physical bodies was another huuuuge shortcut to the endgame.
That in and of itself won't take that long. He's not going to get a Golden Age length arc all to himself. If this was One Piece I would say "Yeah, we're in for a 20 chapter flashback on that" but we're not. A handful of chapters going over his life quickly will do.
He generally doesn't, but I imagine that much like Oda, he will start leaving some things on the floor to move the story along. If it was still 20 years ago I'd say "yeah sure we're guaranteed all that stuff" but that's just not the case now. There are tricks and cuts and things an author can do. The final arc will never live up to what's in your head, but I imagine he could do a hell of a lot with 70 or 80 chapters dedicated to it.
That's what lets him get in at the godhand/source of evil/final powerup. There's a ton of little things left to cover and if it were a weekly series on chapter 900 I'd say we're getting around to all of it, but we're not going to. Toss that hope out the door and just hope for a satisfactory conclusion.
Dude only just turned 50. It's not going to take him 20 years. He generally manages a volume a year. He slowed down a lot and did a couple other projects the last couple years including the anime stuff and an entirely different manga, but he still manages about a volume a year. They had him on a monthly schedule for a chunk and that almost worked, but it apparently still takes him about 5 weeks to do a chapter.
7 years ago he was still managing 2 volumes a year. I figure he'll either pick up more assistants or subtly cut back on the art to help speed things up at some point. Just switching to digital format probably increased his pace significantly, I know it did for every single other artist I've worked with.
As for final arc lengths.
For a reasonable comparison. Fullmetal Alchemist. Gave the lengthy origin of its main villain in chapter 74. Between then and the final chapter 108, it had the entire cast reunite, a full scale invasion battle of armies, a third army of mindless soldiers, had full blown major final battles with Greed, Wrath, Envy, Sloth, Pride and Father.. had shining moments and callbacks for basically every single character in the series, tons of action and generally brought about a satisfying end for all the characters. (Your mileage may vary depending on the character.) But it was an epic all out war with tons of characters and it was done well, and in the course of 44 chapters. (And actually the final day didn't start till chapter 83 so… 35 chapters.) Of course, FMA's chapters are a little longer than Berserk's and that final chapter was extra long, but in terms of page count.
The entirety of Nausicaa and all its characters and wars is 60 chapters, 1100 pages. (Around 7 volumes.) To be fair, Nausicaa was jam packed full of panels and dialogue and it would have been longer under other circumstances.
Then you look over at One Piece where 50 chapters is basically just a typical arc at this point and I'll be amazed if its final arc is shorter than 150 chapters.
It varies, but he can absolutely wrap it in if he feels the need. He can't and won't deliver everything we ever dreamed of seeing, so put that hope aside now. But he can do a big epic final battle and resolution in fairly short order with the pieces he has in place already. He can and will take a couple shortcuts if he needs, he already put two huge ones in play.
I have already accepted that the amount of exploration of the story i would like to see(since it's world building is so rich) will never happen and Miura will limit his focus.
Also having the story wrapped up in another 100 chapters is entirely possible(though not certainty,i will come to that point),but the first issue is the duration which i beg to differ with you.
You are assuming that Miura will henceforth only focus on Berserk and won't seek to draw short story like Gigantomakhia any more.Let's assume we will get on an average 7 chapters a year(a very high estimation since in last six and half year we got some 33 chapters).At this rate 100 chapters will take roughly 14 years.It is hard to believe he will constantly draw Berserk that long without some diversion,so i add couple of years for such projects.Then as he ages,he will face medical conditions beyond his control(most of the senior mangakas faces it at some point,Akimoto is notable exception),add couple of years more.So i was not illogical when i said he would be around 68 at least at that rate.Now comes the topic of amount of chapters he is going to utilise to end this story.I have already conceded that it is possible to close the story in some 100 chapters,but the question is does Miura really want to do that?After Griffith got his kingdom we got a arc spanning some 25-30 chapters regarding a group of zombie pirates and a sea god.Was that arc really needed for the story purpose?Other than a mermaid girl Isma(don't know what her future purpose is in the story),was there anything that really could have a effect in the story or essential to be carried forward?Unless you think Fernese getting a hang on the witchcraft was the intention of the arc…see,it shows Miura is still comfortable in indulging in filler arcs as the journey continues. This is where my fear lies.
As for hiring more stuffs,i wonder why he didn't do that already.We are approaching the 30th anniversary and his assistants are all old guards as far as i know.Any new comer will take time to get accustomed with Miura's style(even if the art is digitalising).
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The pirate arc was one last fun adventure arc before it all goes to full time plot again, one final breather to build up anticipation for elf island and one last bit of fun before its full time serious. Draw and do something a little different before it settles in on the same stuff for the last 10 year stretch.
And yes, pretty sure Miura will just focus on Berserk to the end. He took a break to work on Gigant because after 25 years, of course he needed a break. But now with the end run potentially in sight? Miura has said he wants to do other things after Berserk is done, and has also indicated that its overall actually pretty far along. Once Caska is restored there's really nothing major holding back the end of the story. A hundred little things, but nothing major.
I imagine they'll hide out in paradise for a while and then it gets attacked dragging them right back into things.
.Let's assume we will get on an average 7 chapters a year(a very high estimation since in last six and half year we got some 33 chapters)
Since 2010 we've gotten 42 chapters. Plus Gigant which was 6 chapters. And now in April of this year, we just got off a hiatus, so that number is going to increase by a bit over the next couple weeks by another 4 or 5 chapters probably. So it's more like a bit more than 50 chapters over the last 7 years. (Plus three movies and two tv series, however much involvement he had on those.)
And then probably some more near the end of the year.So yes, about 7-8 chapters a year, generally in 3-5 chapter chunks twice a year. Just not quite a monthly pace. And that is with big giant movie development eating his time for a chunk which shouldn't happen again. Hopefully there won't be another 4 year stint with only two volumes, because that really drags the average way down.
(Back in 2006 he was doing 20 a year, but yes, given that its been 10 years, lets concede he's never going back to that speed.
Considering they tried putting him on monthly last cycle, it sure seems like he and his editors thought he could do a chapter a month but he still couldn't quite manage that and it caught up after what, six chapters? So it's probably taking him about 5 weeks per chapter generally. so it should be closer to 9 or 10 a year… which has basically been his average if you ignore the patch with the movies.