Koby will be the next GARP i think. And BTW
Boa > Koby
Hey. I'm Just Sayin:ninja:
(Yes we keep digging deeper)
And I also think Koby will prevent the Marines capturing him.
Koby will be the next GARP i think. And BTW
Boa > Koby
Hey. I'm Just Sayin:ninja:
(Yes we keep digging deeper)
And I also think Koby will prevent the Marines capturing him.
where's your obligatory smiley to indicate sarcasm :getlost:
Koby wants to be a marine and an admiral. Expect him to achieve this goal end-story.
When did Koby specifically say he wants to be an admiral?
When did Koby specifically say he wants to be an admiral?
After Enies Lobby, when they're resting at Water Seven, he meets Luffy and says something like "next time we meet, I'll be a marine admiral", I think.
Yeah coz we already had like fullscale discussions about her personality, oda's quotes and all other stuff. There is nothing left.
Could you recap to me how many of those full scale discussions that Boa Hancock literally failed at?
I completely lost count after the first seven hundred… That's in terms of "mistakes" that you kept piling up and down the thread.
Last time I seriously debated on here, the only anti-Perona things that came were pointless trivial fandom matters:
In other words, I never failed at any Perona argument that was worthwhile…
@JERK:
Hey Sammsy I can't help but notice how many many piles of rebuttal debt you've amassed and have routinely neglected to pay back? I mean, I'm patient, and rich with these, but I do like people to respond back? Just a reminder!
Another ban?
You need to stop getting banned, sir… :getlost:
Could you recap to me how many of those full scale discussions that Boa Hancock literally failed at?
I completely lost count after the first seven hundred… That's in terms of "mistakes" that you kept piling up and down the thread.
Last time I seriously debated on here, the only anti-Perona things that came were pointless trivial fandom matters:
- She hasn't been shown in the plot for however long.
- She sucks… [fandom]
- Everyone hates AGOG, so they hate her… [fandom]
- Everything else is just "trivial" stuff that was discarded on account of people not wanting to read…
In other words, I never failed at any Perona argument that was worthwhile…
Another ban?
You need to stop getting banned, sir... :getlost:
All ure arguments comes to this. ´´SHE IS WITH ZORO, SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY1 ELSE AND ZORO IS SO STUPID HE NEEDS PERONA FOR ´´READING´´ THE VIVRE CARD ´´
HANCOCK CAN´T JOIN COZ SHE HAS HER ISLAND AND HER LOVE SICKNESS DOESNT COUNT COZ ODA SAID SO. ´Even though Oda put another panel (No more than a whole page) in chapter 582 about her lovesickness' WHY would he do that?. Why would he waste 1 whole page over the ''love sickness'' if he doesnt want love in a manga.
This is youre argument : ''It's necessary for the plot coz he needed to go to AL ''eventhough I (as in me AGOG) said he wouldn't go to AL in the first place'' to regain his strength. Than he can move on and Hancock isn't necessary anymore for the plot.
Hey, I´m just saying:ninja:
AGOG's arguments are about as weak as someone trying to prove if God exists or not.
He has like no proof for, but we have about just as much against. there is just nothing to discuss with her, not enough information. You either believe that she is or that she isn't and based on that belief the little info you have seems SUPER IMPORTANT to you.
She is with Zoro. Whoopity do. That's it, there is nothing else to discuss.
She is with Zoro. Whoopity do. That's it, there is nothing else to discuss.
This, this and more of this.
This is youre argument : ''It's necessary for the plot coz he needed to go to AL ''eventhough I (as in me AGOG) said he wouldn't go to AL in the first place'' to regain his strength. Than he can move on and Hancock isn't necessary anymore for the plot.
Be a little smart, I never said shit. I just spoke that according to what outstanding find (which is now wrong) Urouge configured, the idea that they would head anywhere but Fishman Island is wrong.
Speaking of where Luffy ends up after the war, I never made any such claim to fuss over the result. You, due to the inability to read properly, figured the wrong end and assumed IT was what I said, obviously: false.
Furthermore, yes… Love Sickness isn't important, you can't grasp comprehension so that's your fault. Her island is important and cannot be thrown out like a piece of stale meat, it's going to loom there until Oda decides to work on it. Obviously, he's yet to even start doing that and rather than doing that, he worked against it!
So, rather than whining how much you think your incomprehensible grammar is "cool" or whatever, try to counter the island stuff-- please try!
All ure arguments comes to this. ´´SHE IS WITH ZORO, SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY1 ELSE AND ZORO IS SO STUPID HE NEEDS PERONA FOR ´´READING´´ THE VIVRE CARD ´´
Hey, I´m just saying:ninja:
Just to let you know, in case you couldn't figure this: "this is not a counterargument– it is just a whine!"
Now, why not expand on "what" unimportance being with someone that cannot and should not be able to read the direction the Vivre Card points to, as well as being the ONLY capable helper known to the plot yet, in that situation... Explain why it's so wrong to make an argument which projects her to the next place where she has her gaily old boring JOINING or TEMPORARY BULLSHIT going on...
Yes, I have argued this sort of stuff to provide her a logical passage towards the future-- something no dumbass like you [Boa Hancock supporter] has ever given to explain why Hancock can happily leave her island to die, or not to die!
Can't get the point yet, GO TO PRESCHOOL!!
AGOG's arguments are about as weak as someone trying to prove if God exists or not.
The irony is that they're the best damn arguments here, yet!
He has like no proof for, but we have about just as much against. there is just nothing to discuss with her, not enough information. You either believe that she is or that she isn't and based on that belief the little info you have seems SUPER IMPORTANT to you.
Proof that Perona can join: I hold that.
Proof for a reasonable way to have her join: have that.
Proof that she's able to further the plot and so on: not really, but I can level with that…
Proof that Oda is working her to that point: given the thought some "thought" and then I can happily say "yes" to this...
In other words, I have more proof than any Hancock fan wishing upon a damn star that's long past dead! You either can predict that the star is DEAD, or you'll be in for a glamor of surprise when your ass notices it's gone!
That's the reality of this...
She is with Zoro. Whoopity do. That's it, there is nothing else to discuss.
Yes, she can be with the Thousand Sunny in the not-so-far future… Where, probably, she can join them then.
I can add details and comparisons concerning her and the true female SH crew members, in the end showing that she's being worked on as we speak to join.
Comparing everything with Boa Hancock, who never even had a damn chance to join; her island held her back, Perona's a far better fit and a sure bet.
Again, only a simpleton can't grasp what the point of her being where she is is... Only a simpleton, a superficial one-- yup!
Last time I seriously debated on here, the only anti-Perona things that came were pointless trivial fandom matters:
- She hasn't been shown in the plot for however long.
- She sucks… [fandom]
- Everyone hates AGOG, so they hate her… [fandom]
- Everything else is just "trivial" stuff that was discarded on account of people not wanting to read…
In other words, I never failed at any Perona argument that was worthwhile…
She's also barely interacted with Luffy (the main character, who ultimately decides whether or not someone joins), and none of those interactions have been positive in any way. (all she's done is hit Luffy with Negative Hollow) As well, she'd have no reason to join (her possessions? In that case, Buggy would have as much of a chance to join!), and there was nothing shown in Thriller Bark that had her showing any amount of sympathy to the Straw Hat Pirates (unlike Robin or Franky during Alabasta and Water 7, respectively)
No point trying to debate with someone who will not budge on his views.
She's also barely interacted with Luffy (the main character, who ultimately decides whether or not someone joins), and none of those interactions have been positive in any way. (all she's done is hit Luffy with Negative Hollow)
Luffy saw interest in her fucking ability– Think of it as a Chopper syndrome... The guy will just ACT IMPULSIVELY and invite the little snob.
Do you seriously believe in this even being prominent? It won't matter in the process of being a temporary; Oda can just ADD her like he added Brook even though they just met.
This is LUFFY we are talking about, he doesn't recruit honor students, he gets the luck to have an honor student get sent in by a godsend and then somehow pick that fool, out of whoever stands in front of him <---- FORCED PLOT!
Of course, no one here seems to understand this shit at all.....
Be a little smart, I never said shit. I just spoke that according to what outstanding find (which is now wrong) Urouge configured, the idea that they would head anywhere but Fishman Island is wrong.
Speaking of where Luffy ends up after the war, I never made any such claim to fuss over the result. You, due to the inability to read properly, figured the wrong end and assumed IT was what I said, obviously: false.
Furthermore, yes… Love Sickness isn't important, you can't grasp comprehension so that's your fault. Her island is important and cannot be thrown out like a piece of stale meat, it's going to loom there until Oda decides to work on it. Obviously, he's yet to even start doing that and rather than doing that, he worked against it!
So, rather than whining how much you think your incomprehensible grammar is "cool" or whatever, try to counter the island stuff-- please try!
Just to let you know, in case you couldn't figure this: "this is not a counterargument-- it is just a whine!"
Now, why not expand on "what" unimportance being with someone that cannot and should not be able to read the direction the Vivre Card points to, as well as being the ONLY capable helper known to the plot yet, in that situation... Explain why it's so wrong to make an argument which projects her to the next place where she has her gaily old boring JOINING or TEMPORARY BULLSHIT going on...
Yes, I have argued this sort of stuff to provide her a logical passage towards the future-- something no dumbass like you [Boa Hancock supporter] has ever given to explain why Hancock can happily leave her island to die, or not to die!
Can't get the point yet, GO TO PRESCHOOL!!
The irony is that they're the best damn arguments here, yet!
Proof that Perona can join: I hold that.
Proof for a reasonable way to have her join: have that.
Proof that she's able to further the plot and so on: not really, but I can level with that…
Proof that Oda is working her to that point: given the thought some "thought" and then I can happily say "yes" to this...In other words, I have more proof than any Hancock fan wishing upon a damn star that's long past dead! You either can predict that the star is DEAD, or you'll be in for a glamor of surprise when your ass notices it's gone!
That's the reality of this...
Yes, she can be with the Thousand Sunny in the not-so-far future… Where, probably, she can join them then.
I can add details and comparisons concerning her and the true female SH crew members, in the end showing that she's being worked on as we speak to join.
Comparing everything with Boa Hancock, who never even had a damn chance to join; her island held her back, Perona's a far better fit and a sure bet.
Again, only a simpleton can't grasp what the point of her being where she is is... Only a simpleton, a superficial one-- yup!
Youre wrong in the past and ure wrong now. Go read chapter 582 . I think she doesnt even CARE if shes a princess or not. She's bending the rules WAY to much for such a country that excist only of strict rules. I think the Old hag will take the place of Boa. She is prbly very strong.
You go to Preschool, youre arguments are nothing. infact WTF are u doing here anyways. Youre just in denial, common m8 ure arguments of Perona were JUST as strong as the arguments about not going to AL ''again''. That proves that they are shitty as hell.
Btw U can SHIT on my Grammer no matter howmany times u shit on it it will always be better than ure argumnts of Perona.
Hey, I am just saying:ninja:
Robin and Franky both got serious beatings before becoming crew members. Hancock has never received a single injury. Only she, Dofla, and Mihawk are capable of this feat.
Except that DoFlamingo fought Oars and Crocodile and Mihawk fought Crocodile, Luffy and Vista. Hancock fought fodder, Pacifistas that were probably not fighting back and Smoker, who didn't even try a single attack against her.
There's a big difference of scale there.
Robin was a BW member, Hancock was a Shichibukai. Of course her petrifying will only work on no names, broken attacks like that are usually designed for fodder characters. Odas not going to let Boa OSKO a Vice Admiral. She still left him slightly injured and on his knees. Also, she was clear the superior fighter when confronting smoker. Not only did she display the Haki neccessary to injure him, she destroyed his jutte with one kick. Smoker made not attempt to retalitate ( as he did with other superior fighters such as Dragon) because he knew he knew victory was not guaranteed.
So, because Smoker didn't try to fight proves that she's super-powerful? Smoker is far from the top fighters in the world and rellies heavily on his logia powers, which Hancock can negate. It's like saying Luffy's powers are unstoppable because he could hit Enel.
Also, regardless, it took all the straw hats to beat a 1 pacifista, while Hancock destroyed them left and right.
Off-panel, and when the only one she attacked on-panel was not fighting back.
I have no doubt that Hancock is powerful, after all she's a shichibukai. But people have no base to define how much powerful she really is. There was a whole world of difference between her exploits in the war and DoFlamingo's or Mihawk's.
Luffy saw interest in her fucking ability– Think of it as a Chopper syndrome... The guy will just ACT IMPULSIVELY and invite the little snob.
Do you seriously believe in this even being prominent? It won't matter in the process of being a temporary; Oda can just ADD her like he added Brook even though they just met.
This is LUFFY we are talking about, he doesn't recruit honor students, he gets the luck to have an honor student get sent in by a godsend and then somehow pick that fool, out of whoever stands in front of him <---- FORCED PLOT!
Of course, no one here seems to understand this shit at all.....
Luffy has either shown major interest in, or the character has had major interaction with Luffy, Luffy hasn't shown enough interest (just by wanting to catch the ghost once… he didn't chase the ghost for nearly a chapter as he did w/ Chopper or go out of his way to meet the ghost like he went out of his way to meet Zoro) nor has him or Perona had any interaction at all such as when Ussop was recruited Ussop interacted w/ Luffy the whole time on the island. Also all SHs have a good heart, which Perona doesn't, and all SHs have had something bad happen in the past, Perona hasn't. No SH failed to join in their introductory arc, Perona faded to the background, Y can't you see that Perona has the same chance of joining as the old guy in Weather Island, or Herakles or anyone that is near the scattered SHs. Zoro isn't the captain, so why would Perona follow him, cuz she has no where else to go, that was already used by Robin. She has no reason to follow Zoro and she likes where she is if she can find some slaves so why would she leave the place she wants to be to go on a dangerous trip w/ a crew that has the Marines constantly after them and be under a captain that is completely reckless?
It almost seems as if Oda is trying to hold back on displaying a fight for Hancock, like saving it for some use later.
Youre wrong in the past and ure wrong now. Go read chapter 582 . I think she doesnt even CARE if shes a princess or not. She's bending the rules WAY to much for such a country that excist only of strict rules. I think the Old hag will take the place of Boa. She is prbly very strong.
Alright, what's your point? Will the writer, who writes (god that was hard to figure!!), care the same nonsense that she cares? Will he kill off the people like it is foreshadowed if she were to ignore the treaty, or will he give off a fake pointless made up reason to "cover" this?
Cause, for fuck's sake, if he does what you want, then the manga looks pitiful.
You go to Preschool, youre arguments are nothing. infact WTF are u doing here anyways. Youre just in denial, common m8 ure arguments of Perona were JUST as strong as the arguments about not going to AL ''again''. That proves that they are shitty as hell.
Once again, the idea that you think I had any "argument" which said "going to AL" when the war progresses is on account of your inability to grasp comprehension. I've said this like a good hundred times already, we were arguing about the Logpose being broken and the crew having to reset it somewhere…
Then, rather than bickering like a crybaby, prove them as wrong as your grammar... I reckon that you don't even understand the arguments at all.
Btw U can SHIT on my Grammer no matter howmany times u shit on it it will always be better than ure argumnts of Perona.
Hey, I am just saying:ninja:
Oh, you're "just saying?"
Please, show this then; "do it!!"
<–-- I'll turn into this:
In other words, I'll laugh my ass off listening to your arguments (which you don't even know how to make...)
Alright, what's your point? Will the writer, who writes (god that was hard to figure!!), care the same nonsense that she cares? Will he kill off the people like it is foreshadowed if she were to ignore the treaty, or will he give off a fake pointless made up reason to "cover" this?
Cause, for fuck's sake, if he does what you want, then the manga looks pitiful.
Once again, the idea that you think I had any "argument" which said "going to AL" when the war progresses is on account of your inability to grasp comprehension. I've said this like a good hundred times already, we were arguing about the Logpose being broken and the crew having to reset it somewhere…
Then, rather than bickering like a crybaby, prove them as wrong as your grammar... I reckon that you don't even understand the arguments at all.
Oh, you're "just saying?"
Please, show this then; "do it!!"
<---- I'll turn into this:
In other words, I'll laugh my ass off listening to your arguments (which you don't even know how to make...)
Hmm they are better than youre arguments. And yes he CARES for the nonsence she cares. U wanna know why? ITS 1 FKN PAGE IN CHAPTER 582 HARD TO MISS UH??. That part only is saying enough. Oda cares about Hancock if he DIDNT he wouldn't put her in so much interaction with LUFFY!.
Oneman: Save yourself the trouble. He has his views, and you have your own. It's better to agree to disagree with Agog.
Oneman: Save yourself the trouble. He has his views, and you have your own. It's better to agree to disagree with Agog.
AGOG typically doesn't respond to my posts, I wonder how he will try and refute my last one…
Nah he cant win his arguments. Coz his are bad. His arguments are only based on ''she is lonely and she can be easily invited without trouble'' and he still thinks he got good arguments.
God even Franky left his family. For his dream
So will Boa for her dream
AGOG u know what u should do? CONVINCE ODA of Perona. hahahaha
Luffy has either shown major interest in, or the character has had major interaction with Luffy, Luffy hasn't shown enough interest (just by wanting to catch the ghost once… he didn't chase the ghost for nearly a chapter as he did w/ Chopper or go out of his way to meet the ghost like he went out of his way to meet Zoro) nor has him or Perona had any interaction at all such as when Ussop was recruited Ussop interacted w/ Luffy the whole time on the island.
Find, let's do this part… When he said, "I want Vivi to join!!" he didn't run after her like you claim he does.
When he saw Robin first time, he didn't chase after her... Same with every other trash that heads around.
Furthermore, even though he saved Nami, if she wanted to stay behind, he would have happily let her.
This means, the "interaction" you want doesn't matter... It's just there because you think it's there. There is NO criteria to have an "interaction" like you make it out to be.
It has and always will be "Meet Luffy to get an invite!!" then "Accept or Reject!"
Concerning Perona, as long as she heads and helps Zoro, she's bound to be in that position to have a chance to ask/ be asked/ or whatever... This is something you can argue over all you like, "will she be in that position, or will she not!"
Also all SHs have a good heart, which Perona doesn't, and all SHs have had something bad happen in the past, Perona hasn't.
Perona has a good heart, you're ignorant for judging at what stage it is now; there's no answer to her "character" yet, you're just too stuck-up to understand.
Furthermore, Robin and Nami didn't have their "sad/bad" shit happen until after, Perona can do what they did ~ as what all women of the SH crew end up doing; having their past revealed after they join up with Luffy.
You are ignorant, and dense…
No SH failed to join in their introductory arc, Perona faded to the background, Y can't you see that Perona has the same chance of joining as the old guy in Weather Island, or Herakles or anyone that is near the scattered SHs.
Why are you so superficial. Robin didn't join in her introduction arc. Neither did Franky, nor did Nami.
You can't grasp this so keep on "keeping on!!" like always.
Second, unlike those newly introduced characters, Perona isn't like them and unlike them, she doesn't have a reason to stay there… Furthermore, unlike them, she has a SH character that's as dense as you are to help move to the next island since she's the only shown character with anything important... You, however, get lost because you're an idiot.
Zoro isn't the captain, so why would Perona follow him, cuz she has no where else to go, that was already used by Robin.
Alright. How about the fact that you're a moron?
I think that works… Why do you even ask stupid questions?
She has no reason to follow Zoro and she likes where she is if she can find some slaves so why would she leave the place she wants to be to go on a dangerous trip w/ a crew that has the Marines constantly after them and be under a captain that is completely reckless?
God, the idea that you could think even exists is beyond this time!!
No, dipshit, she's been a pirate before, which means she's FREAKING aware of this stuff… Furthermore, she's faced marines before, obviously, since a shadow was stolen from one.
What this means is that since she has no reason to stay and the world to gain from helping Zoro and then going with him, she'll do that rather than remain where she has no desire to stay at anymore... Furthermore, you ought to join OneManCollectablez in his preschool class.
Nah he cant win his arguments. Coz his are bad. His arguments are only based on ''she is lonely and she can be easily invited without trouble'' and he still thinks he got good arguments.
God even Franky left his family. For his dream
So will Boa for her dream
don't say boa dream, just get everyone to jump on you and say she has no dream.
yet perona obviously can achieve her dream with sh's right. i mean a dark dreary castle filled with cute zombie animal servants were she can sing curesed songs all day long is totally achievable with the strawhats right?
Hmm they are better than youre arguments. And yes he CARES for the nonsence she cares. U wanna know why? ITS 1 FKN PAGE IN CHAPTER 582 HARD TO MISS UH??. That part only is saying enough. Oda cares about Hancock if he DIDNT he wouldn't put her in so much interaction with LUFFY!.
The page where Oda just implies that "it" was strong?
Is that it? I wonder what purpose that left us with? Nothing.
I don't see how he cares when he cared far more with her island in danger and her being the only one… I bet, though, that you missed that since it wasn't something you cared to look for, and something Oda did care for!
How absurd, no?
Nah he cant win his arguments. Coz his are bad. His arguments are only based on ''she is lonely and she can be easily invited without trouble'' and he still thinks he got good arguments.
God even Franky left his family. For his dream
So will Boa for her dream
Yes, she'll leave for her "dream" which can be debated to end up as "Being Kuja Empress!!" – way to go!!
Let's expand here, you ought to know better...
Franky was "alone" and he had no reason to stay at his island since he had a bounty, it was only time he left anyway, it's pretty obvious how he HAD to go. Boa Hancock can't go because she's like the Iceberg of that whole island... She's not able to cast aside her responsibilities like Franky can just leave easily. In other words, she has a "life" and Franky didn't... Plain and simple!
So, Perona is like Franky who can "leave" because she already lost everything that held her back.
Now, I expect you to provide some "Ha Ha" retort that lacks any substance, like usual!:blink:
don't say boa dream, just get everyone to jump on you and say she has no dream.
yet perona obviously can achieve her dream with sh's right. i mean a dark dreary castle filled with cute zombie animal servants were she can sing curesed songs all day long is totally achievable with the strawhats right?
Isn't her dream…
Here's a question.
Why do we believe that Perona will just go with Zoro? What's to say that she just won't stay behind?
It almost seems as if Oda is trying to hold back on displaying a fight for Hancock, like saving it for some use later.
Yeah. He often do this for other big characters. We almost see nothing of DoFlamingo's fighting style, for instance. However, in DoFlamingo's case, we know he will be a villain and Oda's saving surprises for the fight against him. Hancock, on the other hand, is an ally.
I don't have that much crackpot ideas for future crewmembers, like who will be the 11th crewmember but I do honestly hope to God, Jesus, Buddha & Mr. McMahon that Perona never joins. But, that's just me, I guess.
Find, let's do this part… When he said, "I want Vivi to join!!" he didn't run after her like you claim he does.
When he saw Robin first time, he didn't chase after her… Same with every other trash that heads around.
Furthermore, even though he saved Nami, if she wanted to stay behind, he would have happily let her.
This means, the "interaction" you want doesn't matter... It's just there because you think it's there. There is NO criteria to have an "interaction" like you make it out to be.
It has and always will be "Meet Luffy to get an invite!!" then "Accept or Reject!"
Concerning Perona, as long as she heads and helps Zoro, she's bound to be in that position to have a chance to ask/ be asked/ or whatever... This is something you can argue over all you like, "will she be in that position, or will she not!"
Perona has a good heart, you're ignorant for judging at what stage it is now; there's no answer to her "character" yet, you're just too stuck-up to understand.
Furthermore, Robin and Nami didn't have their "sad/bad" shit happen until after, Perona can do what they did ~ as what all women of the SH crew end up doing; having their past revealed after they join up with Luffy.You are ignorant, and dense...
Why are you so superficial. Robin didn't join in her introduction arc. Neither did Franky, nor did Nami.
You can't grasp this so keep on "keeping on!!" like always.
Second, unlike those newly introduced characters, Perona isn't like them and unlike them, she doesn't have a reason to stay there... Furthermore, unlike them, she has a SH character that's as dense as you are to help move to the next island since she's the only shown character with anything important... You, however, get lost because you're an idiot.
Alright. How about the fact that you're a moron?
I think that works... Why do you even ask stupid questions?
God, the idea that you could think even exists is beyond this time!!
No, dipshit, she's been a pirate before, which means she's FREAKING aware of this stuff… Furthermore, she's faced marines before, obviously, since a shadow was stolen from one.
What this means is that since she has no reason to stay and the world to gain from helping Zoro and then going with him, she'll do that rather than remain where she has no desire to stay at anymore… Furthermore, you ought to join OneManCollectablez in his preschool class.
Wow using harsh words ure 1 bad loser huh? Hey since you are hammering on my Grammer go look at the top.
If she's aware than why the HELL IS SHE RISKING HER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME for luffy? She's about to be kicked from the throne if u asked me.
Please grow up. You got 1 thick shield of denial in front of youre face.
First saying like '''AL is very important'' than saying '' That she's aware of this stuff''. This all makes it an argument of NOTHING. Since she already risked all her ppl for the love of luffy.
U got NOTHING my friend. ;-D
Here's a question.
Why do we believe that Perona will just go with Zoro? What's to say that she just won't stay behind?
http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=67906
All right there….
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OneMan, I need to warn you. Discussing with AGOG is like trying to headbutt a stone wall. You will get a headache and a lot of pain, and gain nothing in return. Don't tempt him, or you will be overwhelmed by his "logic"-filled giant post sooner or later.
http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=67906
All right there….
Holy shit! My warning came too late!
Yeah. He often do this for other big characters. We almost see nothing of DoFlamingo's fighting style, for instance. However, in DoFlamingo's case, we know he will be a villain and Oda's saving surprises for the fight against him. Hancock, on the other hand, is an ally.
Yes, I am curious about that as well, we saw a bit of her arsenal of stuff in Marineford, but not as much as some of the other warlords.
Mihawk and the Don are obviously being saved up for later use. Mihawk for his fight with Zoro, and Don for some future arc, whatever, though if Hancock doesn't join now, I doubt we'll be seeing her again anytime soon, and she won't be an enemy, so there is most likely more to come..
OneMan, I need to warn you. Discussing with AGOG is like trying to headbutt a stone wall. You will get a headache and a lot of pain, and gain nothing in return. Don't tempt him, or you will be overwhelmed by his "logic"-filled giant post sooner or later.
Holy shit! My warning came too late!
I know I had a discussion withhim a long time ago:P. Dont wory. His Arguments of hancock NOT joining and PERONA joining are nothing.
And weve seen ALL of peronas skills so it's even more boring if she would join.
THOUGH the onlything good about her is that she could Neg holo the crew to create party moments.
Wow using harsh words ure 1 bad loser huh? Hey since you are hammering on my Grammer go look at the top.
You wish for me to take the effort for this? Fine. I state: no more grammar mistakes from here on out!
If she's aware than why the HELL IS SHE RISKING HER PEOPLE ALL THE TIME for luffy? She's about to be kicked from the throne if u asked me.
Subject was Perona, not Hancock. Sorry, it seems you're mistaken on who the subject of that sentence actually is…
Please grow up. You got 1 thick shield of denial in front of youre face.
So, here's the retort I expected…Thanks!
First saying like '''AL is very important'' than saying '' That she's aware of this stuff''. This all makes it an argument of NOTHING. Since she already risked all her ppl for the love of luffy.
Not at all, when you actually understand the real subject of each clause, then you'll be able to grasp what it means. I mean, this is preschool stuff, no?
U got NOTHING my friend. ;-D
An encore? I love illogical retorts!! Keep 'em coming, please!!
http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=67906
All right there….
No thanks, I refuse to read something that is 99% fan theory, that last 1% being only that she is with Zoro.
No thanks, I refuse to read something that is 99% fan theory, that last 1% being only that she is with Zoro.
Your loss…Ignoring my entire written compilation on the "basis" of what points to her joining is fine-- just don't bother expecting me to summarize it for you. If you ever have any question about why I think she joins, return to that very post and click on that link. The answers are all there!
I know I had a discussion withhim a long time ago:P. Dont wory. His Arguments of hancock NOT joining and PERONA joining are nothing.
Yeah, I know they're nothing. It's just that arguing with him will never make him change his opinion or stop posting. Ignoring him is more effective.
Yeah, I know they're nothing. It's just that arguing with him will never make him change his opinion or stop posting. Ignoring him is more effective.
Ignore your "Current Theory" since it's baseless…It is, after all, what you ought to do...
No skin off my bones, now...
Your loss…Ignoring my entire written compilation on the "basis" of what points to her joining is fine-- just don't bother expecting me to summarize it for you. If you ever have any question about why I think she joins, return to that very post and click on that link. The answers are all there!
I'll gladly read your theories once Perona acutally returns to the manga and become a part of the story again, which to your luck (and our dismay) is probably coming.
I'll gladly read your theories once Perona acutally returns to the manga and become a part of the story again, which to your luck (and our dismay) is probably coming.
Most of that "theory" speaks about her doing just that, not "beyond that" since the "beyond that" part is quick and pointlessly random to accurately predict. In fact, it's safer to say "something something" leads to another "something something" due to that massive amount of randomness.
I do give respect to how Robin joined, and Brook joined before we [fans] could evaluate or create any real "theory" that explains this…After all, it was far too sudden to predict. The latter times weren't, however.
Ignore your "Current Theory" since it's baseless…It is, after all, what you ought to do...
I see no problem with you believing something may happen and I must agree that it's not impossible, just improbable right now. You, however, acts like an ass and dismisses whatever displeases you.
I'm not asking people to ignore your theory. I'm asking them to ignore you. There's a big difference between the two.
You wish for me to take the effort for this? Fine. I state: no more grammar mistakes from here on out!
Subject was Perona, not Hancock. Sorry, it seems you're mistaken on who the subject of that sentence actually is…
So, here's the retort I expected...Thanks!
Not at all, when you actually understand the real subject of each clause, then you'll be able to grasp what it means. I mean, this is preschool stuff, no?
An encore? I love illogical retorts!! Keep 'em coming, please!!
WHoops sorry.
But it's just true that Oda cares about Hancock. And really the only 1 yes ONE thing holding Boa back from joining is her Island. But there are many ways to get that burden off her back.
Thats the Only thing, and ODA is Deffo building to that. (chapter 582 page 7)
What Deicide said.
I got nothing against Perona, could she join? I wouldn't be shocked if Oda pulled a Robin on us, and although I disagree heavily, I'm not going to simply dismiss the chance. Howvever I and the rest of us have a problem with you acting as if you've seen the Matrix of One Piece and know exactly what Oda is thinking and doing, then decend into a rage if any of us attempt to debunk your claims.
It would be best to do what most of us do here, and keep your personal feelings at the door.
Don't you just love how everyone gets so bent outta shap over virtually nothing?
I mean it's _virtually_nothing.
There is no direct evidence saying this or that.
And at this point in time, I 'Believe' that Hancock has a better chance of joining just on the sole fact that we've seen some of her backstory.
Don't you just love how everyone gets so bent outta shap over virtually nothing?
I mean it's _virtually_nothing.
There is no direct evidence saying this or that.
And at this point in time, I 'Believe' that Hancock has a better chance of joining just on the sole fact that we've seen some of her backstory.
Many believe it my friend.
I see no problem with you believing something may happen and I must agree that it's not impossible, just improbable right now. You, however, acts like an ass and dismisses whatever displeases you.
I'm not asking people to ignore your theory. I'm asking them to ignore you. There's a big difference between the two.
Actually, you're asking for both. Not only do you act like an ass and advise them to ignore my existence, but you feel that ignoring Perona is just as effective, and mandatory. You preach, "IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE!!" like the Priest would preach "FOLLOW THY COMMANDMENTS!!"
I, however, don't ask them to ignore you and all your wacky ideas, I merely ask YOU to ignore your theory…Allowing and basically making no comment on any other individual's own unique "choice" in anything they wish to "acknowledge" or whatever. I merely tell you that "Your THEORY is crap, ignore it!" and in the tone that this was my personal point of view speaking.
You, don't. Rather than doing what I was doing, and addressing my theory, you address me and the character I choose to support. In other words, god you're full of yourself...
WHoops sorry.
Just hope you can notice the parallel between Franky and Perona, rather than the one you suspected between Boa Hancock and Franky (more like Iceberg).
But it's just true that Oda cares about Hancock. And really the only 1 yes ONE thing holding Boa back from joining is her Island. But there are many ways to get that burden off her back.
Once again, you have to understand the point of that one thing being introduced when her very character is introduced; to automatically prevent her from joining completely!
Oda could have easily planned for her to never leave her island, and therefore, he creates a complex, yet simple, controversy to keep her glued to it.
With this, Oda doesn't have to deal with that island, or force her to join; he's free to leave her behind when he's done messing around.
Thats the Only thing, and ODA is Deffo building to that. (chapter 582 page 7)
No, he isn't. What he built over the past series of arcs was her Shichibukai title to remain, not be revoked. He created a series of events to cover up her title and have her keep it, easily.
In other words, he strengthened the protection of her island through the entire Whitebeard War arc and the preceding arcs.
He hasn't made any effort to "dismiss" her title yet, he only strengthened it recently…The fandom still awaits for him to work on that title.
In Perona's case, though, he has already removed Perona from her former "employer" and threw all her personal belongings out of the way; leaving only the need to put her into a position to join and have her accept. That's "food for though" for you-- take it!
Don't you just love how everyone gets so bent outta shap over virtually nothing?
I mean it's _virtually_nothing.
There is no direct evidence saying this or that.
Like I said, I don't think people bash AGOG because of what he believes, but because of how he acts about it.
And at this point in time, I 'Believe' that Hancock has a better chance of joining just on the sole fact that we've seen some of her backstory.
She does have a lot for her joining and few things against it. She has a past that can be explored and is linked to the main story; She's already willing to follow Luffy and he trusts her, and the story right now is revolving around her: we're back at Amazon Lily and even Luffy's flashback has links to the Tenryuubito.
The two big no-nos said against her are her island's safety and her power. The first can be solved in-story; the later is just an assumption based on unexplained powers, off-panel battles and beatings of no-name mooks.
All the other candidates right now have far less. Jinbei has a lot of potential since we still haven't reached Fishman Island, but so far he has shown very little of himself; all others, like Perona or Margaret, are far shots based on thin evidence.
Find, let's do this part… When he said, "I want Vivi to join!!" he didn't run after her like you claim he does.
When he saw Robin first time, he didn't chase after her... Same with every other trash that heads around.
Can you even read, all SHs situations were different, I said that all SHs have either Luffy showing extreme interest or they had major interaction w/ Luffy
Zoro - Luffy went out of his way to meet and find out his character, also major role from when he was introduced to when he joined
Nami - after knowing she is a navigator he wouldn't take no for an answer, also major role from when he was introduced to when he joined
Ussop - major role from when he was introduced to when he joined
Sanji - Major role from when he was introduced to when he joined
Chopper - Major role from when he was introduced to when he joined, Luffy yelled at him to join
Robin - Had major interaction w/ Luffy in the tunnels showing her character
Franky - Major role from when he was introduced to when he joined, Luffy also stole his undies to when he joined
Brooke - Instantly asked, played a major role from the time he was shown till when he joined.
Now-
Boa - Major role from the time she was introduced till now….
Perona - Major role in TB, went away..... showed up when Zoro was sent flying nearly 60 chapters in the future
See the difference
Furthermore, even though he saved Nami, if she wanted to stay behind, he would have happily let her.
Remember she did leave and he went after her because "SHE IS MY NAVIGATOR"
This means, the "interaction" you want doesn't matter… It's just there because you think it's there. There is NO criteria to have an "interaction" like you make it out to be.
Look above, as you can see interaction with Luffy is a must
It has and always will be "Meet Luffy to get an invite!!" then "Accept or Reject!"
Has Luffy said no to anyone yet…. I can't remember, and Luffy hasn't asked everyone he has met or the SHs would nearly be 100 strong right now... Luffy has asked everyone for a reason and had interaction with everyone except for Brooke which Brooke turned him down at first, then the interaction and then what do you know, he asks to join.
Concerning Perona, as long as she heads and helps Zoro, she's bound to be in that position to have a chance to ask/ be asked/ or whatever… This is something you can argue over all you like, "will she be in that position, or will she not!"
We can argue, why would she leave her dream place? All that place needs is a slave and boom its paradise. Why would a person that fears for her life leave with Zoro and stay with him for long enough to meet up with her nemesis and the guy who beat the shit out of her captain?
Perona has a good heart, you're ignorant for judging at what stage it is now; there's no answer to her "character" yet, you're just too stuck-up to understand.
Yes because aiding in stealing peoples shadows and stuffing them into zombies is of course, no big deal.
Furthermore, Robin and Nami didn't have their "sad/bad" shit happen until after, Perona can do what they did ~ as what all women of the SH crew end up doing; having their past revealed after they join up with Luffy.
You know saying furthermore doesn't make you sound smart, it makes you sound like a prick who thinks that he is smart, and Robin and Nami each had bad shit happen to them before, we didn't see it till after they joined though, another thing that you failed to include when trying to compare, Perona LIKED Moria, while neither Nami nor Robin LIKED Arlong or Croc. They were both FORCED to join from their circumstance, Nami was forced to join him to save her island, and Robin was forced to join him so she wouldn't have to run anymore
You are ignorant, and dense…
So now you are resulting to insults again, you are a sad creature, I am not dense, if a character looks as if they may join, I'll say it, sadly Perona hasn't shown anything that points to her joining, for someone who goes on and on about plot, you should see that of all the character mentioned here she has the lowest chance of joining
Why are you so superficial. Robin didn't join in her introduction arc. Neither did Franky, nor did Nami.
Robin joined during the Alabasta arc and Franky joined during the CP9 arc. When Robin was first introduced the SHs were already on their way to save Alabasta and when that finished, she joined. Franky gets introduced and then CP9 show their face which leads to Enies Lobby and when they were done there, he joined. So yes, they each joined during their intro arc.
You can't grasp this so keep on "keeping on!!" like always.
Second, unlike those newly introduced characters, Perona isn't like them and unlike them, she doesn't have a reason to stay there… Furthermore, unlike them, she has a SH character that's as dense as you are to help move to the next island since she's the only shown character with anything important... You, however, get lost because you're an idiot.
She has plenty of reason to stay there, Kuma sent her exactly to the place she described but she is spoiled and wants a slave. The real question is why would she want to join the SHs who lives are almost always in danger?
Alright. How about the fact that you're a moron?
Again with the insults, and its always the same, saying someone is a moron for have conflicting views, its surprising how immature you are.
I think that works… Why do you even ask stupid questions?
Why do you make stupid theories?
God, the idea that you could think even exists is beyond this time!!
You know it might be better to plead to God that he helps Perona join so that the rest of this forum's view is confirmed, that you, are the idiot.
No, dipshit, she's been a pirate before, which means she's FREAKING aware of this stuff… Furthermore, she's faced marines before, obviously, since a shadow was stolen from one.
O she has faced a Marine… a big scary fodder Marine, I'm guessing Luffy and the SHs will see not only Aokiji but also Kizaru and Akainu who all three are scarier than Oz. So again, why would she join?
What this means is that since she has no reason to stay and the world to gain from helping Zoro and then going with him, she'll do that rather than remain where she has no desire to stay at anymore… Furthermore, you ought to join OneManCollectablez in his preschool class.
You may see that she has the world to gain from helping Zoro, but the keyword here is "helping" which she as the spoiled brat wouldn't do, she likes slaves, not doing things herself so why would she even help him in the first place?
Actually, you're asking for both. Not only do you act like an ass and advise them to ignore my existence, but you feel that ignoring Perona is just as effective, and mandatory. You preach, "IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE!!" like the Priest would preach "FOLLOW THY COMMANDMENTS!!"
I, however, don't ask them to ignore you and all your wacky ideas, I merely ask YOU to ignore your theory…Allowing and basically making no comment on any other individual's own unique "choice" in anything they wish to "acknowledge" or whatever. I merely tell you that "Your THEORY is crap, ignore it!" and in the tone that this was my personal point of view speaking.
You, don't. Rather than doing what I was doing, and addressing my theory, you address me and the character I choose to support. In other words, god you're full of yourself...
Just hope you can notice the parallel between Franky and Perona, rather than the one you suspected between Boa Hancock and Franky (more like Iceberg).
Once again, you have to understand the point of that one thing being introduced when her very character is introduced; to automatically prevent her from joining completely!
Oda could have easily planned for her to never leave her island, and therefore, he creates a complex, yet simple, controversy to keep her glued to it.
With this, Oda doesn't have to deal with that island, or force her to join; he's free to leave her behind when he's done messing around.
No, he isn't. What he built over the past series of arcs was her Shichibukai title to remain, not be revoked. He created a series of events to cover up her title and have her keep it, easily.
In other words, he strengthened the protection of her island through the entire Whitebeard War arc and the preceding arcs.
He hasn't made any effort to "dismiss" her title yet, he only strengthened it recently…The fandom still awaits for him to work on that title.
In Perona's case, though, he has already removed Perona from her former "employer" and threw all her personal belongings out of the way; leaving only the need to put her into a position to join and have her accept. That's "food for though" for you– take it!
No youre wrong. Introducing her that way gives more character development. When Robin was introduced first she coudnt join. When franky was introduced he coudnt join.
YES i am comparing Franky with Boa why? Coz i think it's the same thing I think Franky's Family is even a better arguement for NOT letting franky join.
U need to know 1 thing. if a QUEEN doesnt do her job properly she gets rejected from the throne.
Just as u suspecting Perona to follow Zoro, I suspect the old hag will be the new Princess. Here a quote to why she could be rejected as a queen.
'' I forbid it! The laws of this island has been passed don for generations Since it's fromation THEY MUST BE OBEYED!!! ''
U see Agog?
Tho Old lady know MORE about the laws and EVRYTHING than Boa. Boa is starting to act wierd because of her Love. In my Eyes the OLD LADY would be a MUCH better princess than Boa!!.
The Old lady will tell Boa to FOLLOW HER HEART and that SHE WILL TAKE CARE of the ISLAND like she did with the WB war AND when she was away Piracing the Oceans!!.
Edit:
Also Boa has a diffrent PROBLEM like the usual problems Like ''Nami and Robin'' <–- Weve seen her sad pasts AFTER they joined
Boa <--- We've seen the sad part BEFORE she joined.
Having 3 girls joining and revealing the sad parts after they joined is just plain BORING.
Edit 2:
@ ElementNick I 100% AGREE!
As much as i'm getting tired of the knee-jerk "Her island's safety." and "She's too strong." arguments that keep getting brought up. These are in postions to be resolved since we are back in Amazon Lily.
And I'm pretty damn sure Oda won't just leave a plot thread like that dangling, not after her "title in question." has been brought up.
Though, I could see Oda making a cover story out of it.
I know you're all havin' a serious discussion an' all but this thread is pretty damn retardeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.