Ok, old topic, new start. You know the dealio, no bashing or petty fanboy bickering, ect! keep it civil folks.
~Original Poll results - Started February 14/Closed July 10~
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I reckon Franky will stay at water7 and help iceberg rebuilt it or somethign like that
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I think my opinion is randomly know here. I think Franky will join. I leave like that. I´ll lay back and wait for the end of the arc to prove who was right and who wrong. :D
Edit: I´m not nitpicking, but since we´ve already seen both of them in the anime would anime pics of them be better then? ;)
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Nope, I think that's just fine. :)
Edit: But If you'd like to submit a 'vs.' anime pic, I'll put it up. I'm not really fussed. ;)
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Well there´s three problems that make it impossible for me to do such a thing:
1. I´m not that good with graphic programms.
2. If I would be the version I have of episode 237 won´t run on Windows Media Player so I could take no screen caps of Franky.
3. I´ve deleted all the previous episodes (other then 234 and 236) so I don´t have any good Paulie screen caps either.
So it appears that I won´t be able to do such a thing. Sorry. :(
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I'd like Franky to join because he's probably the most bizzare character Oda's come up with, and it would be a waste if he only became a rarely-appearing character after that.
Paulie's OK, but he hasn't done anything really impressive. Yet.
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I don't think either of them will join at this point. Franky is too crazy, Paulie is too bland (atleast at this point).. it's just my gut feeling it's gonna be someone else, a surprise altogether.
(i must add though that I hope Franky will join, and that if I knew one of them would join, my guess would be Paulie.. hope that makes sense lol)
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Not to be rude or nothin', but why is there a new one and was it approved?
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It's been more than 5 months since that poll was taken, I would think given the most recent chapters, opinions may have shifted since Solid's original thread in February (what's that, 20-30 chapters?). I brought up the possibility of a re-vote in the future and SHL suggested to make a new thread, in which I did.
Sorry I didn't clear it with you first Buc. :)
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Mah bad, I just read the old thread, too. Carry on.
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IloveFrankyandmybloodpressurewillnotloweruntilhejoins
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I'm still rooting for Paulie. Like I said elsewhere, I feel that Franky's personality and character design would overshadow the entire crew far too often. Paulie's got the right look and has shown a few neat character traits.. He just needs to do something to reconvince former Paulie supporters that he is still in the running since he's pretty much nothing more than a background character right now.
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I'm still hoping on Franky joining, and I've played plenty of little scenarios out in my head to try and convince myself it'll be okay. Things like I'm not so sure if Paulie would want to leave Galley-La after everything that's happened, since it would be weakened by two of their better employees leaving (Kaku and Lucci). And also, about Franky's dream ship.. maybe it's something he can't build right away, ya' know? But maybe with the resources he'll have access to once Luffy becomes the Pirate King and gains all of that wealth, fame, and power Roger talked about, he would be able to. I'm not sure if he's heard Luffy say his Pirate King line yet (someone correct me if he has), but maybe when he does, it'll click in his head that he could achieve his dream along with him.
I have no idea if anything like those have been mentioned before since I never read much of the old thread, and yeah, I know things can be twisted to support Paulie too (like the Franky Family and Franky helping out Galley-La or Franky being able to build his ship right there), but, like I said, I'm just trying to reassure myself that Franky's got a good chance.
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I still vote Paulie. If it's going to be either of them, I still feel it would be him.
Just because Paulie hasn't had a moment to shine in a while doesn't mean he won't get one.
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I say both. And none.
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I still want both to join, Because they are just alltime favorite characters. If it came down to it, I'd say that Franky will join, because If both join, I don't think they'd need two Shipwights. But it increases Luffy's vision of having 10 crewmates, All they would need left is a musician. Franky has alot more experience with being a shipwight, since he did help build the Sea-train and worked with one of the best Shipwights ever, Tom. I mean, Franky is a cyborg and can do alot of manuvers with fighting, but with Paulie, the only attack that we've seen him do is Rope action. Unless paulie brings out some new tricks sooner, My vote will shift to franky.
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id he joins, he will be one of the most unique memebrs and we actually got to see him fight luffy, so we know for sure he is strong, plus he did screw their relationship with usopp up. So he has cause alot of chaos unlike ne other crew memebr has ..besdies robin i guess who didnt cause TOO much commotion before she joined
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Franky should join cause first of all we already got our blonde smoker and thats sanji and whats paulie's dream?Plus I kno that sanji and Paulie will argue about Nami's clothes but u kno what? Zoro already argues with Sanji so it will get old.Besides The straw hats are a unique pirate crew so it will make the crew look stranger than before. The straw hats are kinda different than the other pirates out there and since Franky is so unique he should join.
Also Franky had a interesting past just like the others so He should join not Paulie.Anyway he's already helping the straw hats save Robin so yea he should join :)
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I'm all for Franky. Could end up being neither, I suppose. But whoever it turns out to be, I'm sure I'll be happy with it in the end, because I trust that Oda knows what he's doing with his story.
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I really, really want it to be Franky. But it probably won't be. It seems that history might repeat itself for the Straw Hats, with Franky being incredibly cool, yet only making the Pirate King's ship, just like Tom. However, Paulie hasn't really done anything, and we don't know any backstory or ongoing dream of his, so maybe it will be Franky. But it just seems to me like Oda is just thinking up and all crazyh things for Franky to do because they'll have no reprecussions in the future.
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Franky's the man so him.
the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
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i voted paulie because although we havent seen him fight yet i cant see franky joining and i cant see them not getting anyone since luffy said he wanted to get a shipwright
i like franky i just dont see him in the crew i see him more as a bon clay type characterI am now on DevantART so come cheak out my art i demand it of you :laugh:
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Originally posted by COWMAKAZE@Jul 10 2005, 03:41 PM
I really, really want it to be Franky. But it probably won't be. It seems that history might repeat itself for the Straw Hats, with Franky being incredibly cool, yet only making the Pirate King's ship, just like Tom. However, Paulie hasn't really done anything, and we don't know any backstory or ongoing dream of his, so maybe it will be Franky. But it just seems to me like Oda is just thinking up and all crazyh things for Franky to do because they'll have no reprecussions in the future.
[snapback]86617[/snapback]Well judging from volume 38's sbs, Paulie passed the galley workers exam. Probably one of the only back stories we know (not exactly directly ^^; ).
I don't really have any good guesses. I love both characters and seeing all of Franky's newest actions makes him even more loveable. But then again, Oda is a very surprising man and thats not surprisng at all ^^
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I've been trying to pick up on any clues of who will join. I'm pretty sure it will just be one of the two that will join, since it would be…odd for Iceberg's apprentice AND Tom's other apprentice to leave Water 7 when Gallery-La Company is in ruins after two skilled workers and Iceberg's secretary revealed themselves to be CP9 along with a bartender, injured many more workers, attacked Iceberg and set the HQ on fire. Not to mention the collaterial damage caused by Franky's Coup De Vent.
I don't think Luffy will not take a shipwright either. He said he wanted one and goofy demand for a 5 meter wide one aside, when he says he is going to do something, he does it.
With Franky, you have the most unique character ever created at this moment. A cola powered cyborg with a dream of building a ship and armed with melee weapons in his right arm and ranged weapons in his left arm. He would fit the "Student of a highly skilled person" trait that's in most of the crew, seeing how he is Tom's apprentice. You have two distinct weaknesses, his back and his inability to attack when his cola reserves run low. Not to mention, he is being hyped up with merchandise, like his appearance in two games.
Possible arguments against him joining is that he is too wacky, even for the Straw Hats, despite recent sightings of a more serious side. Also, the Franky Family, comprised of those who wished to be shipwrights but failed could keep him at Water 7.
With Paulie, you have a person who attacks using rope coming from an unknown area inside his jacket. No dream has been shown and only quirks present is the need for money to pay his debt and his disapporval of women wearing little to no clothing. Has an never ending loyalty to Iceberg, his teacher (which fits the "Apprentice from a highly skilled person too), so that could be an argument against him not joining. Also, there is the non-factual arguement that Sanji would be ganged up by Zoro and Paulie (which could be considered as the polor opposite of Sanji) about when it comes to women. Not to mention that rope attacks leave not very much to the imagination.
My money's on Franky joining. And Paulie did have some "moments" like around when Aqua Laguna was about to hit Water 7 for the first time, and when Luffy and Zoro were stuck inside various parts of buildings.
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My vote goes for Franky until Oda changes my mind.
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how far are you guys in one piece? over here we just started the arlong arc.
man i wish we could speed it up a bit. -
i think both. but if not both, i'm goin with ma boy paulie B) .
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I still think Paulie is more likely to join, but Franky has grown on me a lot these past months so I'm gonna say both.
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IMHO, I think (and want also) Franky will join.
Ever since the "Warehouse under the Bridge" and "Klabauterman" chapters where he has a heart-to-heart and throwdown with Usopp, I've really enjoyed his character.
Because Franky's personality and look (also powers to a lesser extent) is so different from the existing Strawhats (an eccentric cyborg thug!), I think he would be a really neat/fun addition to the crew.
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I'll go for both because it's not really annouced yet and the chance of the two is 50-50. If it can't be both, I will go with Paulie because the quote "I won't mind if you take one of my carpenter if they want to go, but I'm not sure if there is anyone who want to go with a pirate." can maybe some kind of foreshadowing that Paulie will join.
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Just like Tom's comment about it being possible that Franky's real parents who left him behind were pirates. Maybe that is some kind of foreshadowing. ;)
Anyway, I just find Franky to be more interesting and we have been shown quite alot of Franky's past and ambitions so I would rather have him as the new crewmember. It definently would add to how unpredictable One Piece is since the very first time we were introduced to Franky none of us would have predicted him to be a new strawhat crewmember. B)
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I'm voting for Franky cos most of the signs somehow point to him joining and he seems to be getting more exposure than Paulie somehow..
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there should be 'unable to decide' -option. at first, i was totally rooting for paulie, but lately franky has started to really grow on me.
on the other hand, i think franky's just too over the top, and on the other hand, i feel like paulie's not over the top enough.
i just don't see the situation so black and white i'd jump into definite conclusions and totally make up my mind which one i would like to see sail away with the strawhats in the end.
sure, the 'none' and 'both' -options fall in the grey area, but then again, i really want another of them to join, because they've had so much screentime already, and dealing with even more options makes my head hurt.
as for both of them joining, that i don't want to see happening, because why the hell would they need two shipwrights. i had another excuse as well, but i went and forgot.
but there better be a new member, or else i'll like.. chop my fingers off. -
dont chop your fingers off, how will you be able to post on the forums? :P
but i agree i would really like to see them get another crew member B)
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I voted Franky, mainly because I like him better than Paulie….. I feel that he will add more flavor to the StrawHats since he seems to have that 'crazyness' :P
Then again, both Franky & Paulie joining won't be so bad either.
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Christ, I had written a really long rant, but then I was stupid and accidently closed the window before it was done submitting the post. Lessee how much I remember of it…
My vote hasn't changed during the last few chapters, despite what theories I've read on the forums and what's been in the manga. I still think Paulie is the man to join the crew.
First, let me address the point brought up that Paulie's ropes are too plain of a fighting style. I'd have to disagree; I have faith in Oda to make it into something grand. If you hadn't seen One Piece, I'm sure you'd think that a fighting style revolving around kicks would be lame, but Sanji has proven time and again that it can be pulled off, not only well, but with style. I expect to see the same thing from Paulie and his rope fighting. It might sound lame on paper, and perhaps what we've seen isn't the greatest; but I'm sure that Oda has all the real tricks saved up for the future, and when he pulls them out, we'll all be left saying "How cool is that?!"
Secondly, I shall address the point of Paulie's character; in short, people say his character is too bland, not unique enough. His quirks are negligible, or they clash or what have you. Well, first off, he might have one or two we've yet to see that can make him more interesting. Oda hasn't delved in depth into Paulie's character, choosing instead to go into Franky's, the reason for which, in my opinion, is that after Water Seven, he won't get to go into Franky's character; AKA, he's left behind.
At any rate, even going by what we know now, I still think Paulie would be a fien addition to the crew. Why, you ask? Because his quirks can cause some good scenes between the pirates. His gambling problems, amusing as they are on their own, are sure to compound in amusement when coupled with Nami's vast amount of cash, and her money-hoarding ways. She can cheat him out of his, only to be begged into letting him borrow more to fund his habit. Also, of course, is how he treats women; this is sure to cause some debate between him and Sanji. Not only that, but others, especially the girls themselves, and possibly Zoro, can get dragged into it as well. In short, his personality can compliment the other Straw Hats well.
Now, in response to reasons Franky will be the crew member.... As I stated, I believe he's being fleshed out so well because he won't have another chance to be fleshed out after Water Seven. He'll be the builder of the new ship, for sure, taking Tom's place. In my opinion, Luffy is travelling the same path as Gol D. Roger did; the polyglyph on Skypiea as an example. This would be another comparison between the two journeys. And, while Franky is being fleshed out very much, so was Vivi, and she didn't join, now did she? Heh, if I didn't know better, I'd say Oda did this on purpose, just to confuse people on who would be joining.
At any rate, that's my two and a half cents. Feel free to comment, criticize, or even build off of them.
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The hat-wager still stands with me XD
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Here's my answer: GO FRANKY!!!!
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Voted Paulie. If his rope techniques aren't original for you, how come you find Franky's to be original while they're only just things Usopp could do (fire, wind, nails, bombs…)? Ropes can come in handy anytime, not just in combat. Paulie has a less freaky design too and I love his interactions with the crew.
Franky is funny, but kind of repetitive. It's still ok in this arc but might get really annoying if he joins and repeats the same puns (guitar, poses, crying...). Paulie is much more of a versatile character like Sanji or Zoro.
As said, if Franky is shown so much now is probably because Oda uses this character as much as he can while he still can and so that we have a background and personality for the new ship.
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Originally posted by Roman Zaenom@Jul 11 2005, 01:14 PM
Voted Paulie. If his rope techniques aren't original for you, how come you find Franky's to be original while they're only just things Usopp could do (fire, wind, nails, bombs…)? Ropes can come in handy anytime, not just in combat. Paulie has a less freaky design too and I love his interactions with the crew.
[snapback]87010[/snapback]I have no interest in debating who will join. But I think I should point out that if you already start argumenting on original/unoriginal fighting styles, then you should mention all of Franky´s diverse fighting skills but yet you just mentioned the "unoriginal" stuff above and left out original stuff such as taking off the skin to punch with an iron fist or the very unique centaur mode. B)
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I voted Paulie. It's about time Nami learns how to dress properly.
Shameless woman….
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Yeah, the rodeo fighting style is really original… he can tie stuff up! And...uh...
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i don't know if this could be a clue, but a lot of the strawhats seem to embody one of the seven deadly sins.
gluttony - luffy
sloth - zoro
lust - sanji
greed - nami
pride - usopp
envy - chopper
wrath - ?i'm not sure who could represent wrath (i don't think robin really does, but who knows), but the others seem to be about right. maybe whichever of franky or paulie fits wrath better is the one who will join? of course if robin is wrath, then this theory doesn't work.
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I decided to look at this from a different angle.
If Paulie joins, there'll be an explosion of bondage yaoi doujinshi which could be a good or bad thing depending on who you talk to.
But then again Franky yaoi… :blink:
My curiosity is of the morbid type. So I still go for Franky.
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My vote still goes to Paulie. no special reason though, I just like him better than Franky. sure Franky is such a great character, not to mention very unique, but if I have to choose, I choose Paulie. I don't mind if Franky joins either, but I believe he will be the one who made the boat, and stay :)
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Originally posted by Unchipu@Jul 11 2005, 09:29 AM
**i don't know if this could be a clue, but a lot of the strawhats seem to embody one of the seven deadly sins.
gluttony - luffy
sloth - zoro
lust - sanji
greed - nami
pride - usopp
envy - chopper
wrath - ?i'm not sure who could represent wrath (i don't think robin really does, but who knows), but the others seem to be about right.**
That's a pretty cool theory actually.. chopper's envy isn't too clear though, and like you said Robin and wrath don't really match either, but the others are pretty much spot-on.
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couldn't paulie's additude toward women be envy
it seems franky is quite proud of himself
ive always thought of the seven deadly sins as the shukibaki though (cause i was listening to flogging molly while reading about them)
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Originally posted by Roman Zaenom@Jul 11 2005, 09:14 PM
Voted Paulie. If his rope techniques aren't original for you, how come you find Franky's to be original while they're only just things Usopp could do (fire, wind, nails, bombs…)? Ropes can come in handy anytime, not just in combat.
[snapback]87010[/snapback]Because of style. Pauly has ropes. He throws them at you. That's it. Sometimes he'll tie things to them. Then throw them again. If they land, he….throws you. Most strong fighters can find ways out of this, like Lucci did, but still, he's gonna throw you.
Franky is a living weapon. He uses his fists a lot, but instead of trying to punch you, he'll vary it. He wrecked the Yagara carriage to throw Luffy for a loop (much smarter move than people think), suckered Nero, and took off his skin to make his punch harder. He'll even shoot a fist at you, but if it doesn't work, he moves on.
He seems to believe in two great things: set-up, and shot. He didn't just fire away at Nero, he tricked him and then pinned him for the Ultimate Hammer. You can't just keep throwing things and hope it works, you have to set up. It's not strong moves that make him good, it's his technique.
And about Usopp: they can play off each other! Imagine Franky shooting Coup De Vent, and everyone avoiding it except Usopp, who can charge a dial with it. It'd be really cool for Usopp to have a lab partner, who knows ships and weapons like the back of his hand. Which is a weapon. That fixes ships.
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My vote goes to Franky. He has a tragic past, he has a dream, (And I'm sure he wants to see that ship fulfill his dream). He has a strong shipwright ability, and his cyborg ability is going to put Luffy in a state of excitement that my surpass that state when he was watching Choppers 7-level transformations. (And he's also formed a temporary alliance with Franky Family.)
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Yeah, I agree that o far Paulie's fighting style hasn't really much variety at all, but I kind of do thing that if you sit back and think hard enough, you could come up with some pretty interesting moves for Paulie. Maybe some sort of attack with names that contain snake/wire/worm etc..
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Originally posted by jackvance+Jul 11 2005, 07:59 AM–>QUOTE(jackvance @ Jul 11 2005, 07:59 AM)
 
