Ouch, that hand stab looks brutal. Damnit Ace, some son of the pirate king you are! Havin ur pops die for you then gettin stabbed. For shame.
Chapter 573 "The Name of this Era is 'Whitebeard'" Discussion
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! Ace
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! http://www.newporkcity.net/npcforum/images/smilies/cowabunga.gifyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!
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this ain't fairy tail; ace can't eat fire and become stronger
I dunno…Croc can control sand in a desert. Of course, I am admitedly halfassing this post ass yuou can clearly tell.
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@Corson:
Does anyone else find it funny that this thread is fifteen pages of people whining about Ace being a whiner?
This remark needed to be passed on. Seriously.
I really don't like the recent trend of getting scans of a chapter before we get a raw, but oh well. Guess I'll just have to wait to read it…
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Well most of the chapter threads compose of:
Information
Excitement and thanks
Oda = God
Complaints
Complaints
Character/Plot bashing
Forum members trading fire
and then theories and actual discussion…But oh still in such good fun.
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Ace acted the sameway as Luffy did when Blackbeard told him that he beat Ace no difference. Anyway I have a feeling Marco's Fruit power might extend beyond himself . Its either he heals Ace or Ace is gonna have a scar that looks like a fist.
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Maybe the fist will burn away the tattoo!
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i feel this is some what relevent.
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Honestly, I was thinking more of AT4W's "I AM A MAN" segment while reading this.
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My three years of Chinese class are not enough to help here, sorry guys.
Ah Akainu, such a badass.
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! Ace
! Gonna
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! http://www.newporkcity.net/npcforum/images/smilies/cowabunga.gifYou're breaking my heart, Vanessa.
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Some anon scanlated it using the Chinese scan, roughly. He doesn't read OP, but the scan is acceptable.
Quote:translating something you don't read is a bitch, half my time was wasted finding the names of each character. there was only 1 line in page 11 that should be inaccurate.
nevertheless this is moefag giving you shonenfags something.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MMWOTK9H
Also, just don't say anything about the source, please, be it good or bad. I don't want the thread to be derailed by a bunch of ignorant bickering (Though this IS Arlong Park so it probably already happened)
If posting this isn't allowed for any reason, just delete my post. I didn't post it in the scanlations forum because I thought I read somewhere a while ago to not use the jojohot scans for scanlations…But whatever.
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death to Ace!
What glorious news!!
Thanks Aohige!!!
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Ace will live, Luffy will save him, and WB will die, mark my word.
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Awesome. Thanks dofla.
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Nice! Thanks a bunch.
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Nice, thanks a lot ^^
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Keep it up. My ban-button finger is getting twitchy.
Haha xD it's ok, I don't think Ace is gonna die myself, but still… my pun still stands...
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Its still quite possible for Ace to survive, but hes in really bad shape right now. They need someone to take care of distracting Akainu and NOW!
In terms of the Magma beats fire, i looked at wikipedia and found magma can range from 700°C to 1300°C (or 1300°F to 2400°F) while orange fire, which i assume is what Ace is made of ranges from 1,100 °C (2,010 °F) to 1,200 °C (2,190 °F). It may not seem like a big difference but its a couple HUNDRED °F more. I guess it goes like this: Fire burns, but Magma melts
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Woot!
I don't know how the Chinese-English translation went, but it's always a terrible idea to translate something that's already been translated.
cross-translation often results in much getting lost.So I'll provide my own. :)
page 1
Chapter 573: This era shall be called, "Whitebeard"page 2-3
Marine: Uwaaaa!!! Stop Whitebeard!! The Marineford is in danger!!
Marine: He really plans to destroy the entire island!!Pirates: Pops!!!!
Pirates: We can't leave you here, let's go home together!! Pops!!!
Whitebeard: Didn't you hear my captain's orders!!? Get the hell out of here, idiots!!!page 4
Marines: Take down Whitebeard!!! He's almost finished!!
(Whitebeard attcks)
Marines: Gyaaaaa!!!!Pirate: Hurry!! Do as pops says!!
Pirate: Pops!!!!
Luffy: Ace!!
Ace: …...page 5
pirates: get ready to sail!!! Get the ship going!!
pirate: Commander Marco, let's go!!
Marco: pops...!!Marine: Fleet Admiral Sengoku!
Sengoku: Now that he doesn't have to worry about Ace.... he seriously plans to sink this entire Marineford!! Along with his own life....!!
Marine: Vice Admiral Garp!!! Are you alright?
Garp: He plans to finish off this era....!! It's about time....!page 6
Pirate: Captain Buggy! The video den-den mushi is back online!!
Buggy: Alright then!! Get a good picture of my magnificient self!! And record the moment I take Whitebeard's head!!!crowd: The visuals are back!!!
crowd: What happened to Whitebeard!?
crowd: Did the pirates under him perish, sold out by Whitebeard!?
Buggy: Ahem.
crowd: Someone's coming on!!
Buggy: Hello, men!! It's me, Buggy!! You know, the legendary one.
crowd: NOT YOU AGAIN!!! -
Thanks Aohige! I'll update the first post with your trans as you provide it.
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The Japanese raw it out, it doesn't seem to have been posted here yet…
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It was posted on this very page, it's also in the first post.
In fact, the one who uploaded it to that link you posted is the one who posted it here.
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page 6
Pirate: Captain Buggy! The video den-den mushi is back online!!
Buggy: Alright then!! Get a good picture of my magnificient self!! And record the moment I take Whitebeard's head!!!crowd: The visuals are back!!!
crowd: What happened to Whitebeard!?
crowd: Did the pirates under him perish, sold out by Whitebeard!?
Buggy: Ahem.
crowd: Someone's coming on!!
Buggy: Hello, men!! It's me, Buggy!! You know, the legendary one.
crowd: NOT YOU AGAIN!!!This has to be the most epic moment/page in the entire chapter hahahahah, thanks Aohige.
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Woot!
page 6crowd: The visuals are back!!!
crowd: What happened to Whitebeard!?
crowd: Did the pirates under him perish, sold out by Whitebeard!?
Buggy: Ahem.
crowd: Someone's coming on!!
Buggy: Hello, men!! It's me, Buggy!! You know, the legendary one.
crowd: NOT YOU AGAIN!!!ROFL. hilarious!
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The rest is nearly the same as the spoiler text I posted, but I did add few lines that were cut off from the pics, as well as rewording some lines to make it more localized. :)
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pirates: hurry, to the shores!!!
marines: Do not let the pirates escape!! Kill as many as you can!!
Whitebeard: No, the one you face… is me alone!!!
marines: ........!!!
(Whitebeard's attack shakes the marineford, and sound effects of ground shaking)Page 8:
Pirate: Commander Jozu!! You still alive, right? Let's go together.... Whoa!!
Pirate: Blenheim!! Come carry Joz for us!!
Ivankov: Strawhat Boy!! What are you standing around for!!
Luffy: Ace!!! Let's go, respect the old man's resolve!!
Ace:....!! I know!! I won't let it go to waste!!
Ace: Get out of my way, bastards!!
Marines: Whoaaa!!
Whitebeard: .....!!Page 9:
Whitebeard: I don't need any more words from you... but just tell me one thing, Ace.
Were you satisfied with me...as your father...?
Ace: Of course I was!!!
Whitebeard: Gurarara...
Page 10:
Pirates: Run!! Run for the ship!!
Jinbei: Ace!! Luffy!! Run ahead of us!!
Luffy: Jinbei!!
Jinbei: You guys are being targeted!! It is the old man's wish that as many of us survive out of this!!
Pirate: We took over a marine battleship!! Hurry aboard!!
Hancock: You must hurry, Luffy...!!!
Marine: Admiral Sakazuki!!
Akainu: Do they really think they can get away....? How stupid of them.Crowd: The execution stand is destroyed!! What happened to Ace!? Show us Whitebeard!!!
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Pirates: Watch out!! It's Akainu!!! Uwaaaa!!!
Akainu: You retreat right away after freeing Ace? Whitebeard Pirates are full of cowards, are they?
Ah, well, no wonder they are... look at their captain. Whitebeard is nothing but a "loser" of the previous era afterall...!!!
Luffy: !? Ace!!
Ace: "loser", you say.....?
Akainu: ?Page 12:
Ace: Take those words back...!!!
NW captain: No Ace!!! Don't stop there!!
pirate: Ace!?
Ace: He just insulted pops....!!!
Luffy: ACE!!!Akainu: Whitebeard is an eternal loser who couldn't become the "king", after losing to your real father Roger. Everything I said is true!
He won the respect of nothing but scumbags, having them call him pops, pops... playing a laughable pretend of "family"....
Ace: stop....!!!Page 13:
Akainu: He ruled the ocean for decades... yet he never could become a king! He gained nothing!!
In the end, he's stabbed by a fool he calls his son, just because I tricked him.
Now he will die protecting these idiots. What a wonderfully empty life he lived, eh?
Ace: stop it....!!!
Commander: Ignore his taunts!! Come back, Ace!!!
Ace: Pops gave us a place to live!! What the hell would you understand about the greatness of him!!
Akainu: Humans don't deserve to live unless they live in justice!! You pirates don't deserve a place to live!!
Akainu: "Whitebeard" will die as a loser!!! A perfectly fitting end for a king of TRASH!!
Ace: Whitebeard is a great pirate that BUILT this era!!!
(Don't you dare diss the man who saved us!!!)Page 14-15:
Ace: The name of this era!!! IS Whitebeard!!!
Luffy: Stop, Ace!!!!
Pirates: Ace!! Ace has.... been burned!?
Akainu: Aren't you letting your guard down, just because you're a logia?
You're just "fire". But I'm "Magma" that can burn down your fire!! My ability is completely above yours!!Luffy: A....ce.....!!! argh...!!!
Jinbei: Luffy!! You're already past your limit!!
Luffy: panting Oh..!! Ace's Vivre card....Akainu: "Pirate King" Gold Roger. "The Revolutionarist" Dragon!!
Nether did I think that the sons of these two were sworn brothers...!!
Your bloodline is already a grand sin!!! Even if we let anyone else escape... I will not let you two brothers leave!!
Akainu: Watch carefully.....
Ace: ...!!! Wait!!! Luffy!!!
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(Akainu punches through Ace)
Luffy: !!!!
Lufy: wha....t.....
Ace: GAAHH!!! (coughs blood)
(Vivre card is nearly burned out)Enjoy!
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thank you SO MUCH Aohige __
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The first post is updated with Dragon's raw link that dofla provided us and Aohige's full script. All three of you are greatly appreciated!
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So Ace sacrified for Luffy. This is how I see it.
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After thinking about it, this is all Marco's fault. He has his cuffs off. If he followed Whitebeard's orders and protected Luffy, Ace wouldn't be dying right now.:ninja:
P.S. Thanks Aohige for translation. I still don't get what the camera thing is about for the Marines and what Buggy's role is going to be. This war is far from over. Too many elements that need connecting.
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Thanks Aohige for the trans.,2 <small-rant>but Oda's logic about magma over powering fire is exasperating the hell outta me. I know it's suppose to be a simple kids manga and it's all good hearted fun but at least keep the logic ethical. First the 20 month pregnancy now this. Hope Oda isn't going over the deep end with his ideas.</small-rant>
Anyway, cool chapter, wish Ace would stop whiny and just had escaped with everyone else. But now the question lies….will this be Oda's first death in the manga? Or will he pull out a current/ new character to step up and distract Akainu? Find out next time on the next episode of One Piece
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Thanks Aohige.
Ace is such annoying… Full of himself once again and owned once again.
Same case like with BB. he should let Marco fight an admiral. He was much more capable than Ace
Who is Bellheim?
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Ah, the visual thing is pretty big. If the marines don't know that it is on, who knows what they might say or do that might disillusion the watchers around the world (or just Shabaondy, but I doubt it) to "justice."
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This event with what happened with Ace will trigger something within Luffy. Although Luffy is already past his limit, i can't imagine him crowling into Jinbei's hands and start crying.
Something will happen and i hope that we would perhaps see a aspect from the King's haki that we haven't seen yet. This could be the very reason why it's so special and it doesn't have to be a outburst or something. Why do i think this? It's because Ivankov stated that the power within Luffy still lies dormant so i'm kinda hoping that we could see a little bit of a temporarily full awakening because there are no experienced Haki users around who could make Akainu back away now and Whitebeard is too busy.
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i think luffy is going to be overshadowed in this war by WB's last stand
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<small-rant>but Oda's logic about magma over powering fire is exasperating the hell outta me. I know it's suppose to be a simple kids manga and it's all good hearted fun but at least keep the logic ethical. First the 20 month pregnancy now this. Hope Oda isn't going over the deep end with his ideas.</small-rant>
LOL what? you have sword chopping ships in half, people sinking islands and you speak of logic…......... just funny that's all
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This event with what happened with Ace will trigger something within Luffy. Although Luffy is already past his limit, i can't imagine him crowling into Jinbei's hands and start crying.
Something will happen and i hope that we would perhaps see a aspect from the King's haki that we haven't seen yet. This could be the very reason why it's so special and it doesn't have to be a outburst or something. Why do i think this? It's because Ivankov stated that the power within Luffy still lies dormant so i'm kinda hoping that we could see a little bit of a temporarily full awakening because there are no experienced Haki users around who could make Akainu back away now and Whitebeard is too busy.
Marco is ble to use it and seems fully OK. And Boa as well
But speaking of haki… It's really strange to see. Ace was sensing it in Luffy... so he knows about it. But he (Ace) never has shown that he has it as well. Not against Smoker (if he would, he could hurt him), not against BB and even not against Akainu fully in rage.
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My other point that support this theory is the following:
We all know that Luffy would go extremely past his limits in fights to protect his crew like with Lucci and Moria.
But this is different.. in fact: Luffy chose Ace over his entire crew and that means a lot. That's why we'll perhaps see him using the last bit of his remaining strength in a special way to bring both in safety.
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he doesn't have to fight anyone he just has to grab ace and gum gum rocket on to the ship
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My other point that support this theory is the following:
We all know that Luffy would go extremely past his limits in fights to protect his crew like with Lucci and Moria.
But this is different.. in fact: Luffy chose Ace over his entire crew and that means a lot. That's why we'll perhaps see him using the last bit of his remaining strength in a special way to bring both in safety.
That's the best difference between Ace and Luffy… Ace never has shown go behind his limits and just get owned
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I can see this going two ways, and neither involve Luffy.
First, Assuming that Blackbeard had to win the fight against Ace for the sake of the story, this is the first chance that Ace has had in the entire manga do overcome the odds and do something great. He could do… just that.
Second, there are close parallels between what Ace did in this chapter and what Luffy did in chapter 1 when he was saved by Shanks (twice). Comparatively, Whitebeard could save Ace through sacrifice. We know he's sacrificing himself for his crew, anyway. I don't think it'd be very hard to write this extra bit in.
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Marco is ble to use it and seems fully OK. And Boa as well
But speaking of haki… It's really strange to see. Ace was sensing it in Luffy... so he knows about it. But he (Ace) never has shown that he has it as well. Not against Smoker (if he would, he could hurt him), not against BB and even not against Akainu fully in rage.
I don't expect anything from Boa at this point, it would be rather foolish and especially if the spectator would be Akainu. It would only mean that Akainu would order a buster call on Amazon Lilly after the war, Boa would be likely attacked and in the end executed.
Maro is a 50/50. It wouldn't make sense if Akainu would focus all his power on marco instead of the 2 brothers in front of him. I also wouldn't pay attention to a weakling who's kicks don't do shit if i could counter them easily with lava like WB's haki bisento attacks. Luffy and Ace are his main priorties and he wouldn't leave them even if he had to chase them to the end of the world.
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I can see this going two ways, and neither involve Luffy.
First, Assuming that Blackbeard had to win the fight against Ace for the sake of the story, this is the first chance that Ace has had in the entire manga do overcome the odds and do something great. He could do… just that.
Second, there are close parallels between what Ace did in this chapter and what Luffy did in chapter 1 when he was saved by Shanks (twice). Comparatively, Whitebeard could save Ace through sacrifice. We know he's sacrificing himself for his crew, anyway. I don't think it'd be very hard to write this extra bit in.
As much as I would love to THAT of the son of the pirate king I doubt… He will be rescued... which would be lame... Ace has to rescue or save himself only once
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I'm wondering if Buggy didn't already record what Akainu said about Whitebeard and what he said to Ace… wouldn't that be wonderful if all that was heard? How an admiral played dirty and lied to a pirate? or something like that xD surely it's been said a million times by now.
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Btw, i wonder why Garp didn't seem surprised that Ace was freed… Did he had so much high expectations from Luffy (again)?
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Ace, you fucking idiot.
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Thanks for the chapter and the translation…..
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Btw, i wonder why Garp didn't seem surprised that Ace was freed… Did he had so much high expectations from Luffy (again)?
I'm more interested in the fact that Garp seems to agree with WB that the old geezer era he lived needs to come to an end.
Edit: my 2 cents on Ace.
I don't dislike Ace, and definitely not interesting in hopping on a Ace-hate-bandwagon.
But what he did this chapter was obviously portrayed by Oda to be an inexperience, inmature manner.
Ace isn't the only one proud of their great captain, the other commanders are no less proud of their leader.
But they all saw through Akainu's trap, and called out to Ace to "dude ignore the f'kn troll and beat this joint!!"I think it's understandable, considering Ace is still a newcomer to Whitebeard pirates, and possibly the youngest member of them all.
He's not seasoned and level headed enough to shrug off worthless insults for what they are.Luffy is, as idiotic and innocent as he is, far more mature in this manner than his bro, I think.
He doesn't heed the words of someone like Bellamy, as he knows those words have no bearing on him, and the insults are empty coming from someone who doesn't understand.