Naruto had a heart attack because of sasuke isn't that a good moment ! looooooool !
no actually my favourite moment was when sage naruto appeared and he started to defeats the pains easily one after another !
Don't Stop… Dattebaaayo! Naruto VII
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well yeah what were you expecting, quality in Naruto? There's a reason this thread has become what it is.
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I felt really sorry for Naruto hyperventilating. He really is suffering because of a selfish emo bastard. Evwen worse he is going to have to kick the shit out of the man he wants to save. On top of this because of Kishi's plot porotection, Sasuke would probably be able to defeat the rookie nins, even if in reality he shouldn't be able to.
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I;m so happy that went the way it did. Chesire cat smile
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well yeah what were you expecting, quality in Naruto? There's a reason this thread has become what it is.
Even if it were to regain its former decent plot, I doubt it could escape its past failures.
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Even if it were to regain its former decent plot, I doubt it could escape its past failures.
WRONG, Fans of Naruto are very forgiving group, not only fans but other Naruto readers aswell.
When Naruto kicked Pain's ass after his Grand entrance and cool cloacks everyone was cheering and praising how amazing Naruto series is.
If Naruto kisses Hinata after couple of chapters there will be lot of celebration even in THIS thread and Naruto will be AWESOME again.
When Naruto kicks Sasukes ass it will be best moment of entire Naruto, everyone will be satisfied and it will be epic.
It does NOT matter if we suffer 400 pointless chapters only if we get 10 epic chapters pulled out of air. Kishimoto can fix this series so easily and all this is forgiven.
Naruto is still going strong, its most popular manga/anime in USA, and if Naruto goes down then entire Anime/Manga format will go down. You too will cheer praises over Kishimoto's genious when Naruto kicks Sasukes ass, gets pointed to Hokage and marries Hinata. Because its worth it.
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I stick with Naruto being amazing- I'm not going to be convinced otherwise. However because of certain failures in the series, especially too much of damn Sasuke and that same fucking Uchiha massacre flashback (yes we get it Kishi the Uchihas were slaughtered!), because of such failures I have to raise HxH and OP on a well deserved pedestal to Naruto so it doesn't look like I'm insulting their pure untainted awesomeness. OP has obviously reamined awesome, if not got more awesome which might seem impossible to do, but Oda keeps pulling awesomeness out of nowhere lol. Togashi might have his hiatuses but that doesn't taint HxH's quality either.
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currently naruto now is good ! yup thought it was at the peak of it's epicness during the itachi hero story and the sage naruto chapters from then till now it was good not that bad !
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It will be raised in epicness once more once Naruto is able to beat Sasuke, imagine Sasuke's surprise when his sharingan can't see nature chakra!
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@Friend:
I stick with Naruto being amazing- I'm not going to be convinced otherwise. However because of certain failures in the series, especially too much of damn Sasuke and that same fucking Uchiha massacre flashback (yes we get it Kishi the Uchihas were slaughtered!), because of such failures I have to raise HxH and OP on a well deserved pedestal to Naruto so it doesn't look like I'm insulting their pure untainted awesomeness. OP has obviously reamined awesome, if not got more awesome which might seem impossible to do, but Oda keeps pulling awesomeness out of nowhere lol. Togashi might have his hiatuses but that doesn't taint HxH's quality either.
See this SMUDGE? If only we could get rid of Sasuke then Naruto would be BEST series ever, even HxH and OP would be shit compared to it. Too bad that Kishi seems to be obsessed with Sasuke…
When Sasuke was gone during Kakuzu/Hidan and Pain invasions NARUTO was most amazing manga ever, so amazing battles and rich STORY!
I think its amazing that Jiraya never took Naruto to Frog mountain for sage training during their 3 years because otherwise Pain battle would not been so damn epic... Kishimoto is best mangaka ever.
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Best moment http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/02-03.jpg
A shame those frogs contributed in nothing but getting their asses kicked. Gamabunta used to be so cool tooT_T
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I wasn't sure if you were asking me a question at first Shandian lol. If you are inferring that I was saying that Naruto could be better than OP or HxH I wouldn't say that. Yes Naruto was epic without Sasuke. I really hope with all the hope I can muster that Kishi has been building Sasuke up purely as hero fodder for Naruto to either save him and be more of a hero or destroy whoever kills Naruto, by whom I mean Madara.
I agree with you on the Hidan/Kakuzu thing. Shikamaru is one of my top 10 characters so it was beautiful to see his revenge completed purely because of excellent prep. Even Naruto at it's best still can't quite reach OP and HxH level though. But do remember I class Naruto as a legendary series, one of the 7 I call Godly.
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but still without sasuke , naruto won't get stronger or have heart attacks ! then the story will just be about akatsuki ! and no hero itachi story , so you should know by now how important sasuke is !
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Yeah that was basically my point earlier, hence hero fodder lol. Sasuke is important, he is the antihero and the antihero is usually crucial in shounen. He just happens to be a fairly crap antihero, particularly when compared to say Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho, Hisoka from Hunter X Hunter and the king of all antiheroes- Vegeta from Dragonball.
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@Thousand:
A shame those frogs contributed in nothing but getting their asses kicked. Gamabunta used to be so cool tooT_T
They were taking out the other summons.
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When Naruto kicked Pain's ass after his Grand entrance and cool cloacks everyone was cheering and praising how amazing Naruto series is.
No, we mostly called out the BS powerup and the fact he was one shotting all of them, and that due to the fact we hadn't been made to hate the villain buy him mercilessly pummeling his opponents, or having any characterization or personality, it was hard to care.
If Naruto kisses Hinata after couple of chapters there will be lot of celebration even in THIS thread and Naruto will be AWESOME again.
Then we'll have to wonder "why the hell did that take 40+ chapters?" and we'll be reminded that its because of Sakura. It'll be hard to enjoy such a moment after all the BS surrounding it, when its something that should have come almost a year ago.
When Naruto kicks Sasukes ass it will be best moment of entire Naruto, everyone will be satisfied and it will be epic.
Except he'll be tossing out a "believe it" speech at him the entire time and it will be incredibly annoying. the valley of the end fight wasn't terribly good, (the anime made it better though) and Sasuke's last couple fights have been terrible and full of illusions, I can't imagine why the final confrontation would be any better.
It does NOT matter if we suffer 400 pointless chapters only if we get 10 epic chapters pulled out of air.
Yes. Yes it does matter.
Kishimoto can fix this series so easily and all this is forgiven.
Ah, the delusions of youth. I used to think that too.That he was just in a slump, that it was a weak arc. That he was in the middle of Skypeia, and after he got past it we'd be rewarded with a Water 7. But… no.
Naruto is still going strong, its most popular manga/anime in USA,
Thats why its not airing on tv anymore.
and if Naruto goes down then entire Anime/Manga format will go down.
No it won't. You are incredibly delusional if you think this. The market isn't a monopoly and theres thousands of other titles out there. The sales and profit have already been made on Naruto, it dying today wouldn't stop the sales from yeserday.
You too will cheer praises over Kishimoto's genious when Naruto kicks Sasukes ass, gets pointed to Hokage and marries Hinata. Because its worth it.
He's been hokage since the Pain battle, he just doesn't have the title yet. Everyone assumes that he's next, (Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Kakashi, the folks that matter) everyone respects him, he's leagues stronger than everyone else, and the only reason he isn't it is because there area couple adults who actually understand how the world works ahead of him. I didn't cheer when the village declared "we love you and you are our hero and hokage to be!" I don't see why it being "official" will be any more rewarding than the out of nowhere nonsense of the Pain victory.
And again, given the track record of Sasuke fights and Naruto whining about Sasuke not being evil, I'm not anticipating that fight. At all.
And at this point, Naruto has to aknowledge Hinata even EXISTS, and given how Kishi has dealt with relationships thus far, I don't forsee any romance there being worth celebrating, especially after he's needlessly prolonged the payoff on that so long already. It's just going to be an afterthought if that happens, and thats no reward, thats table scraps.
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sakura doesn't know where sasuke is also i think kakashi will catch up it to her before she finds sasuke though i would like it if she finds him and they fight ! but currently sasuke is fighting danzo , and i would prefer it if she fights sasuke handicapped from the danzo fight it will be an enetertaining fight !
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@robbybedfart:
No, we mostly called out the BS powerup and the fact he was one shotting all of them, and that due to the fact we hadn't been made to hate the villain buy him mercilessly pummeling his opponents, or having any characterization or personality, it was hard to care.
Then we'll have to wonder "why the hell did that take 40+ chapters?" and we'll be reminded that its because of Sakura. It'll be hard to enjoy such a moment after all the BS surrounding it, when its something that should have come almost a year ago.
Except he'll be tossing out a "believe it" speech at him the entire time and it will be incredibly annoying. the valley of the end fight wasn't terribly good, (the anime made it better though) and Sasuke's last couple fights have been terrible and full of illusions, I can't imagine why the final confrontation would be any better.
Yes. Yes it does matter.
Ah, the delusions of youth. I used to think that too.That he was just in a slump, that it was a weak arc. That he was in the middle of Skypeia, and after he got past it we'd be rewarded with a Water 7. But… no.
Thats why its not airing on tv anymore.
No it won't. You are incredibly delusional if you think this. The market isn't a monopoly and theres thousands of other titles out there. The sales and profit have already been made on Naruto, it dying today wouldn't stop the sales from yeserday.
He's been hokage since the Pain battle, he just doesn't have the title yet. Everyone assumes that he's next, (Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Kakashi, the folks that matter) everyone respects him, he's leagues stronger than everyone else, and the only reason he isn't it is because there area couple adults who actually understand how the world works ahead of him. I didn't cheer when the village declared "we love you and you are our hero and hokage to be!" I don't see why it being "official" will be any more rewarding than the out of nowhere nonsense of the Pain victory.
And again, given the track record of Sasuke fights and Naruto whining about Sasuke not being evil, I'm not anticipating that fight. At all.
And at this point, Naruto has to aknowledge Hinata even EXISTS, and given how Kishi has dealt with relationships thus far, I don't forsee any romance there being worth celebrating, especially after he's needlessly prolonged the payoff on that so long already. It's just going to be an afterthought if that happens, and thats no reward, thats table scraps.
Your saying your opinion has facts again. This might of been your feeling towards the fight, but the comments was all positive when Naruto started kicking pains ass at the start.
Explain your BS Powerup please.
Naruto is a busy dude. You cliam he the Hokage right. I guess hinata has to wait until he sees her again.
LOL Naruto doesn't use illusions through. Sasuke will try it once and then never again. Sasuke didn't even use illusions against Raikage. He went toe to toe with him.
LOL Naruto isn't the Hokage at all. He waned to be Hokage from the start of the manga. Why do you think it won't be rewarding to him.
Naruto still airs on TV and is the most popular manga in US. It was like top 10 in seaches on google in the US.
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Indeed there was perhaps a certain degree of fanboyism a few posts ago but I felt impolite to point it out, damn my Britishness lol. What series is popular in America actually means shit in global terms anyway. Worry not it isn't just America because how a series does in Japan is a crucial first point, without it being good there it doesn't matter.
Although even if things weren't released in volumes in our home countries, I am pretty sure that the dedicated scanlators of our various languages (be it English, Spanish, German, whatever language outside of Japanese) would continue doing an excellent job.
Kudos Robby for your comment on Naruto effectively being hokage already. The way I was seeing it, they just had to take care of some administrative stuff, fill in papers, kill Danzou etc, routine stuff for a ninja XD
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sakura doesn't know where sasuke is also i think kakashi will catch up it to her before she finds sasuke though i would like it if she finds him and they fight ! but currently sasuke is fighting danzo , and i would prefer it if she fights sasuke handicapped from the danzo fight it will be an enetertaining fight !
Since when in this series have anyone have issues of finding someone? Kazekage found Killerbee immedeatly after just 5 minutes he left from Kage-summit.
Oh yeah of course Naruto cant find Sasuke but it does not count.
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Since when in this series have anyone have issues of finding someone? Kazekage found Killerbee immedeatly after just 5 minutes he left from Kage-summit.
Oh yeah of course Naruto cant find Sasuke but it does not count.
it counts konoha ninjas always do not find what they want !
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@Friend:
Kudos Robby for your comment on Naruto effectively being hokage already. The way I was seeing it, they just had to take care of some administrative stuff, fill in papers, kill Danzou etc, routine stuff for a ninja XD
I bet that Naruto cant wait to get his Hokage position, I mean 99,8% of Hokages work is paper-work and administrative decisions I have no doubt that Naruto will emerge greatest bureacraut of Narutoverse…
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@Thousand:
So they were nothing but clean-up duty?
yep, Naruto didn't have to waste his Sage chakra on summons.
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Juju do you believe that naruto at the end of the manga will be as great as the 3rd hokage?
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Ah but Shandian can't he get someone else to do the paperwork? Someone who has excellent strategic and analytical skills? I vote Kakashi and Shikamaru as his advisors!
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WRONG, Fans of Naruto are very forgiving group, not only fans but other Naruto readers as well.
How delusional are you?
Despite it having a relatively decent plot recently, the same old slurs keep on reoccurring. People will continue to trash Kishimoto as it's the new trend, regardless of the fact that they are fans or not.
This thread alone backs up my previous post.
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Juju do you believe that naruto at the end of the manga will be as great as the 3rd hokage?
The 3rd Hokage let Oro go free and failed to stop Uchia massacre. You must be kidding me, Naruto will probably be the best Kage since the 1st. The 2nd was a decent kage through.
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The 3rd Hokage let Oro go free and failed to stop Uchia massacre. You must be kidding me, Naruto will probably be the best Kage since the 1st. The 2nd was a decent kage through.
I thought he was too weak to seal orochimarus soul. I can't recall the details though i have only good memories from him.
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I thought he was too weak to seal orochimarus soul. I can't recall the details though i have only good memories from him.
He was too weak because of his old age, but he was superior years before when he caught Oro doing experiments. He should of locked him up or killed his ass then.
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Old man Sarutobi (I'm starting to sound like Shunsui from Bleach now XD) was a legend. Even though he did die and ultimately his sacrifice was negated when Oro regained a body with healthy arms, Saru fought incredibly well. He was at a standstill with Oro AND 2 hokages, WHILE having low chakra.
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I wonder what happened to the insect controlling ninja. He recall him to be pretty cool in part 1.
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This thread alone backs up my previous post.
You're just bitter your attempt at serious discussion only lasted a weekend and everyone called it boring.
When the series does something well, I always commend it. When it does something badly, I call it out on it. I do the exact same for One Piece, Bakuman, Bleach, and Negima.
The problem is, the series has been in the "bad" category for a long time. Its moments of quality fail to shine the turn it has become. In order to make up for the last ~300 chapters of akwardness, it would have to be pretty consistently amazing to re-earn the respect it once had but aleady lost.
A moment here or there isn't going to do the trick.
I wish this series was as good as it once was. I say this all the time, I'd rather have the great series back than this lame shell that is so easy to mock. But I just don't believe Kishimoto has it in him anymore to even approach the heights he once did, let alone sustain them, or it wouldn't have been so bad and akward for so long.
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yep, Naruto didn't have to waste his Sage chakra on summons.
And…you don't see anything wrong with that?...>.>
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Ah MagneticMonkey that was a side effect of Kishi ignoring characters with names not beginning with Sasu and Naru. Ok that was an exaggeration there I grant you that, but Shino (the bug guy) only had one brief fighting appearance against Madara for seconds, then he passed right through him while attacking.
A relative of Shino's appeared in the past few chapters though, AND actually fought shock horror XD
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I wonder what happened to the insect controlling ninja. He recall him to be pretty cool in part 1.
You mean ABURAME SHINO!? He is member of Aburame clan of Konoha and one of Rookie 9! He is 176 cm tall and his blood type is AB!
Fool!
Shino Is amazing! RMeber when he, Hinata and Kiba with Team 7 had that epic double page when they were launching Save sasuke vol 2.0 mission?!
You and RObby are awfully pessimistic about Naruto manga, you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga, even if Naruto is their only manga besides Bleach but NARUTO IS AMAZING!
OK OK, enough sarcasm for this year, I filled my every post today with MAX sarcasm but avast, my sarcasm does not reach people.
I swore that I shall not make sarcasmic posts in this year anymore.
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i prefer shino part 2 more ! i like his talking about he has no friends and nobody likes him !
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you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga,
you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga,
you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga,
you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga,
you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga,
you two should visit NarutoFan and Animesuki to see how people really appreciate good manga,
Sarcasm or not, that's a painful thing to say man.
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Shino has one of most broken abilitys in Naruto, he can control chakra devouring insect swarms with pin point precision and has defeated all his opponents in in this manga.
He would crushed Madara aswell if not his space time teleportation stuff.
But I am glad that he did absolutely nothing during Pain invasion because he would only been at Naruto's way…
I swore that I shall not make sarcasmic posts in this year anymore.
Oh sh*t.
Well pardon my lapsus here…
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i understand why people here bash Naruto and Bleach, because I do it a lot. Someone has to counter Bleach and Narutards. You know some of them won't even respect other manga series even if they don't like it? Petty fools
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I'm a proud member of Narutofan for cleaning the garbage they have in their op section.
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i like both naruto and one piece ! they are the best out there !
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I still say Shino could have easily gotten past Pain's auto-wall defense. The thing takes a hit, then it goes down for a couple seconds. Dude would have trouble dealing with millions of bugs.
And hey, Shikimaru's shadow hold probably coulda done him some harm. Let alone an entire family of shadow hold users?
Rock Lee could have used his superb speed and done a replay of the Gaara fight, where he attacked from the front got defelcted, then attacked from the rear.
Kiba and Akamaru could have uhm… peed on him. That woulda annoyed him.
Ten Ten could have thrown hundreds of weapons.
Sakura could have smacked the ground and unleashed a swatch of boulders.
Ino could have TRIED to attempt that body control/switching thing she's got going on.
And if not these kids doing those things, then their parents with the same, but better trained, abilities!
But no, they would have all "gotten in Naruto's way."
Ironically, Hinata, the only one that DID attempt atnything, was the least suited for battling Pain since her attack style requires physical contact and hitting precise pressure points, which may not have worked on the rod controlled corpse anyway, even if she had landed a hit.
(And lets not go into the other bodies with their vairety of weakness. No, it was SO much cooler for Naruto to throw a single fireball at each of them and poof them with a skill he only managed to achieve by training with his clone cheat... AGAIN.)
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@Friend:
Old man Sarutobi (I'm starting to sound like Shunsui from Bleach now XD) was a legend. Even though he did die and ultimately his sacrifice was negated when Oro regained a body with healthy arms, Saru fought incredibly well. He was at a standstill with Oro AND 2 hokages, WHILE having low chakra.
he could of killed Oro when he was ounger.
@robbybedfart:You're just bitter your attempt at serious discussion only lasted a weekend and everyone called it boring.
When the series does something well, I always commend it. When it does something badly, I call it out on it. I do the exact same for One Piece, Bakuman, Bleach, and Negima.
The problem is, the series has been in the "bad" category for a long time. Its moments of quality fail to shine the turn it has become. In order to make up for the last ~300 chapters of akwardness, it would have to be pretty consistently amazing to re-earn the respect it once had but aleady lost.
A moment here or there isn't going to do the trick.
I wish this series was as good as it once was. I say this all the time, I'd rather have the great series back than this lame shell that is so easy to mock. But I just don't believe Kishimoto has it in him anymore to even approach the heights he once did, let alone sustain them, or it wouldn't have been so bad and akward for so long.
Tell us are you really feel.
@Thousand:And…you don't see anything wrong with that?...>.>
What the hell is wrong with that??? Jman summons did the same things too.
@Friend:i understand why people here bash Naruto and Bleach, because I do it a lot. Someone has to counter Bleach and Narutards. You know some of them won't even respect other manga series even if they don't like it? Petty fools
Onepiecetards always come off has petty fools to me, but hey.
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Tell us are you really feel.
Ok.
When the series does something well, I always commend it. When it does something badly, I call it out on it. I do the exact same for One Piece, Bakuman, Bleach, and Negima. (And if you actually looked in any thread other than this one, you'd know that. I chastized the latest OP chapter heavily for being so predictable.)
I wish this series was as good as it once was. I say this all the time, I'd rather have the great series back than this lame shell that is so easy to mock. But I just don't believe Kishimoto has it in him anymore to even approach the heights he once did, let alone sustain them, or it wouldn't have been so bad and akward for so long.
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Juju whatifs dont remove badass feats of a character. Sarutobi still fought well. I'm not arguing what he could have done to prevent what happened.
All tards are fools by definition, I just find Narutards the most annoying. I'm glad I'm not one of them.
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@robbybedfart:
I still say Shino could have easily gotten past Pain's auto-wall defense. The thing takes a hit, then it goes down for a couple seconds. Dude would have trouble dealing with millions of bugs.
And hey, Shikimaru's shadow hold probably coulda done him some harm. Let alone an entire family of shadow hold users?
Rock Lee could have used his superb speed and done a replay of the Gaara fight, where he attacked from the front got defelcted, then attacked from the rear.
Kiba and Akamaru could have uhm… peed on him. That woulda annoyed him.
Ten Ten could have thrown hundreds of weapons.
Sakura could have smacked the ground and unleashed a swatch of boulders.
Ino could have TRIED to attempt that body control/switching thing she's got going on.
And if not these kids doing those things, then their parents with the same, but better trained, abilities!
But no, they would have all "gotten in Naruto's way."
Ironically, Hinata, the only one that DID attempt atnything, was the least suited for battling Pain since her attack style requires physical contact and hitting precise pressure points, which may not have worked on the rod controlled corpse anyway, even if she had landed a hit.
(And lets not go into the other bodies with their vairety of weakness. No, it was SO much cooler for Naruto to throw a single fireball at each of them and poof them with a skill he only managed to achieve by training with his clone cheat... AGAIN.)
LOL first of all, Gai team was not in the village until it was too late. Everyone in the village was freaking injured and shikiamaru was on one leg.
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@robbybedfart:
Ok.
When the series does something well, I always commend it. When it does something badly, I call it out on it. I do the exact same for One Piece, Bakuman, Bleach, and Negima.
I wish this series was as good as it once was. I say this all the time, I'd rather have the great series back than this lame shell that is so easy to mock. But I just don't believe Kishimoto has it in him anymore to even approach the heights he once did, let alone sustain them, or it wouldn't have been so bad and akward for so long.
Hey Popular things always gets mocked. I went to a Naruto board and mentioned OP and all them started posting stupid pics and saying it's kiddy. They say Oda won't kill anyone etc….
Also pls tell me how Naruto got a BS powerup like every shonen character.