Chapter 537 "Okama in Hell" Discussion
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i blankly accept it lol
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I imagine we will be getting a lot more information on just how this little hideaway works. I mean, it still hasn't even been explained just how it is that they spirit away new recruits. Inazuma is apparently involved in that somehow. Perhaps he/she is very fast…as fast as lightning maybe?
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Heh, the reason for the existence of New Kama Land is simple. Magellan and Hannyabal.
Magellan works a total of 4 hours a day, spends 10 hours closed up in his bathroom, and the rest is sleeping and eating. He also is amazingly easy to seduce and distract.
Hannyabal only thinks about becoming Chief Warden. If the bureaucracy was more intelligently designed, people with high performance would rise through the ranks. Instead, we have administrators playing politics, and people gain ranks by deception as well as show of pure strength. Hannyabal is irresponsible and willing to be lax about enforcing order so that he can place blame on Magellan. In addition he likes to show how tough he is by going through level 5 without any equipment.
This leaves Sadi-chan, Saldeath, and Domino to manage pretty much everything.
As for the security monitoring, they watch, but with higher command constantly pre-occupied or irresponsible, they are clumsy.
Thus, even if Impel Down was known as the most impregnable prison in the world, management has gotten worse over the years. It seems to sustain itself on its reputation, rather than have its reputation sustained on its capability.
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The translation mentions the path to New Kama land being "from Impel Down's sewers… through the "road that can't exist". Is this perhaps a reference to the mysterious 6th level where prisons have been erased from existence?
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Heh, the reason for the existence of New Kama Land is simple. Magellan and Hannyabal.
Magellan works a total of 4 hours a day, spends 10 hours closed up in his bathroom, and the rest is sleeping and eating. He also is amazingly easy to seduce and distract.
Hannyabal only thinks about becoming Chief Warden. If the bureaucracy was more intelligently designed, people with high performance would rise through the ranks. Instead, we have administrators playing politics, and people gain ranks by deception as well as show of pure strength. Hannyabal is irresponsible and willing to be lax about enforcing order so that he can place blame on Magellan. In addition he likes to show how tough he is by going through level 5 without any equipment.
This leaves Sadi-chan, Saldeath, and Domino to manage pretty much everything.
As for the security monitoring, they watch, but with higher command constantly pre-occupied or irresponsible, they are clumsy.
Thus, even if Impel Down was known as the most impregnable prison in the world, management has gotten worse over the years. It seems to sustain itself on its reputation, rather than have its reputation sustained on its capability.
Isn't that the same for all establishments with high reputation? :O
As for the guy, I really think he was just a recently demoned away man who just fired at Ivankoff as soon as he came out. It would explain the Newkama/Newcomer line as well since that denotes that he WAS one of them but only for recently rather than just barging in out of nowhere where he wouldn't count as one of them since they never brought him to their paradise.
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Also, complaining about amount of information you get in a chapter is just acting spoiled.
Wow, this is a really bad attitude.
We're now 'spoiled' because we demand more of the greatest manga author who we know is capable of doing better.
I'm such a spoiled bitch.
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Wow, this is a really bad attitude.
We're now 'spoiled' because we demand more of the greatest manga author who we know is capable of doing better.
I'm such a spoiled bitch.
Why is he the greatest? Isn't that biased?
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Wow, this is a really bad attitude.
We're now 'spoiled' because we demand more of the greatest manga author who we know is capable of doing better.
I'm such a spoiled bitch.
Greg, what do you think about my theory? D: Isn't it reasonable and doesn't cheapen Bon Clay's hardships? Also further confirmation is him wearing casual clothes!!! It's inconceivable that he penetrated Impel Down from outside like Luffy since Luffy needed a Shickibukai with the right power and even if he could, it would cheapen his infiltration. There's no way he could have made it all the way down to the 5th floor either. Therefore he must have been a level 5 prisoner and if he had escaped, he'd have had prison garb so he must have been demoned away very recently. That's my theory anyway.
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Why is he the greatest? Isn't that biased?
One word: plastics.
Thousand,
What translation are you going by? Because his line is 'rashii' which indicates he's heard somewhere and that this is their first actual meeting. I see some people using, "So you're" which is downright wrong since it can easily be misconstrued to mean he had some prior association with the individual ie. "So YOU'RE so-and-so."
Again, I'm not saying ANY theory is wrong, right, silly, conceivable, only that us having to create such theories is absurd in the first place when it's something Oda can handle when he's strutting his best stuff. Great example, Hannyabal CLEARLY says Nami is his type of woman which helps us believe he'd go all horndog. If he just left us believing Nami would turn on Hannyabal it'd be a little hard to swallow considering his reaction to Hancock.
I'm hard on Oda because I know how good he is.
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One word: plastics.
Thousand,
What translation are you going by? Because his line is 'rashii' which indicates he's heard somewhere and that this is their first actual meeting. I see some people using, "So you're" which is downright wrong since it can easily be misconstrued to mean he had some prior association with the individual ie. "So YOU'RE so-and-so."
Again, I'm not saying ANY theory is wrong, right, silly, conceivable, only that us having to create such theories is absurd in the first place when it's something Oda can handle when he's strutting his best stuff. Great example, Hannyabal CLEARLY says Nami is his type of woman which helps us believe he'd go all horndog. If he just left us believing Nami would turn on Hannyabal it'd be a little hard to swallow considering his reaction to Hancock.
I'm hard on Oda because I know how good he is.
Personally, I think it will be mentioned in an SBS one day. It's a prime SBS material question. Like those 2 twins on Brook's ship. An apparent error with a funny explanation:P
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Wow, this is a really bad attitude.
We're now 'spoiled' because we demand more of the greatest manga author who we know is capable of doing better.
I'm such a spoiled bitch.
I'm talking about people who demand information, like what blue was doing. Information is not quality. Pages of grunting can be quality. So unless you mean to imply the blanket statement otherwise, and draw attention to a spoiled nature that you might be harboring, I suggest you read/understand a bit more carefully.
To end on a positive not, your SBS translations are great, so lets be friends again .
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Whether it was blue or me, I actually agree with blue's attitude.
I think we should be hard on Oda because we know what he's capable of.
Even if some of blue's questions may easily be addressed or dismissed, I just think it's important we never blid ourselves to thinking OP is awesome just because it's OP. That's all.
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Well that's obvious. Enjoyment is subjective, though complaining seems selfish when in terms of things we don't necessarily get anyways. I don't care if you complain about the chapter because you didn't like it, but new info isn't something we always have so we should be happy when it's here rather than miserable when its gone. It's like with mallomars. You shouldn't be disappointed when they're out of season, but delighted when they're in stock!
The complaining just reminds me a tad of the end of Water 7, where we had an abundance of information as well as a surplus of criticism when the levels sank.
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When something doesn't go wrong, its human nature to relax. Sure any place of work can in theory have security checks, safeties, and checklists of things they're suppsoed to do, and when something is first implemented, everyone will stick strictly to it. Especially if its immediatley following a mistake.
But, if 3 or 4 weeks go by with nothing bad happening? It seems like the system is better oiled and you get more lax about the checklist.
If a year goes by without problems? People forget the checklist ever existed and just do their jobs based on routine and what their daily rounds consist of.
if 20 years went by with only a single escape? Its pretty easy to imagine everyone getting cushy jobs. Security camera guard is intense and interesting for about 10 minutes, and then when nothing happens you start moing the camera around to see the neighbors arguing. Human nature to get lazy and bored when nothing interesting happens.
That might at least a little explain ID's lack of tracking stuff down/keeping level 5 in check… but hopefull tere will be a fully explanation for how the hideaway works and is reached in the next chapter.
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@robbybevard:
When something doesn't go wrong, its human nature to relax. Sure any place of work can in theory have security checks, safeties, and checklists of things they're suppsoed to do, and when something is first implemented, everyone will stick strictly to it. Especially if its immediatley following a mistake.
But, if 3 or 4 weeks go by with nothing bad happening? It seems like the system is better oiled and you get more lax about the checklist.
If a year goes by without problems? People forget the checklist ever existed and just do their jobs based on routine and what their daily rounds consist of.
if 20 years went by with only a single escape? Its pretty easy to imagine everyone getting cushy jobs. Security camera guard is intense and interesting for about 10 minutes, and then when nothing happens you start moing the camera around to see the neighbors arguing. Human nature to get lazy and bored when nothing interesting happens.
That might at least a little explain ID's lack of tracking stuff down/keeping level 5 in check… but hopefull tere will be a fully explanation for how the hideaway works and is reached in the next chapter.
damn I hurried with finishing this drawing and then the 538 fake spoiler - april first thread was closed already.
It isn't a good drawing at all cause I hurried with it to share it with all of you ASAP.
enjoy…
it's only kidding anyway
what do you think of my "art"? -
Dude… at some point this Luffy girl business has to stop.. hahaha.. or we'll get fan art with Ace having sex with Luffy...
Don't even think about doing it.. you will be banned from AP forever!!!
(but what a way to go right?.. hahaha LOL)
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Hey, Oda started it himself by even HINTING at the idea that there was someone who could turn a man into a woman–oh wait, it wasn't even a hint, IT HAPPENED. XD At this point its merely a question of "will he or won't he?" Plus I think he needs to leave room a bit more to explain the properties of the attack in general, like, if it's even permanent or not. If it is, I doubt he would pressure that upon Luffy and then have to come up with some miracle cure for things to return to normal. As mentioned before, he's not gonna permanently change the gender of his main character just for a few laughs. If he does it at all it's gotta have some solid reasoning behind it, or make it some 1-2 panel gag at best (also previously mentioned).
Anyway, now I'm just waiting for the REAL spoilers just because I'm freakin' curious now. If they wanted to be really funny they'd put up another fakey just to piss people off. XP lol. Seriously, though, if I had seen that thing BEFORE it had been spoiled, I know I probably would have believed it. @_@ Props to Eggy on that part, good job thumbs up
EDIT: BTW Gol, now that you've said it.. you know it's going to happen. >< And I fear it. Lolz
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I don't see why Luffy would need to be a woman, it would just be a lame joke if Oda did it…
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hahaha.. or we'll get fan art with Ace having sex with Luffy…
Don't even think about doing it.. you will be banned from AP forever!!!
(but what a way to go right?.. hahaha LOL)
Our "gyojin-shipwright" Tom-san would say:
"However you may leave AP, do it with a 'DON'!"
Guess THAT would be a 'DON', of course.
But I'm not drawing such "deep" stuff. I pushed my limit by doing this rubber-boob-pic. Thought it would be a funny fanpic. Isn't it?If it is, I doubt he would pressure that upon Luffy and then have to come up with some miracle cure for things to return to normal. As mentioned before, he's not gonna permanently change the gender of his main character just for a few laughs. If he does it at all it's gotta have some solid reasoning behind it, or make it some 1-2 panel gag at best
I also think that state wouldn't last permanent. Think of nightmare Luffy - 3 minutes (or so?).
But Luffiko would really be funny, and it seems possible.
We saw gear 3rd partly giant-luffy, afro-boxer-luffy, chibi-luffy, knight-luffy (short time @ TB), nightmare luffy.
I still like the idea turning luffy into a girl for a short period of time, so Oda can go wild with his creativity. -
I don't see why Luffy would need to be a woman, it would just be a lame joke if Oda did it…
Its kinda an unwritten rule in this series. If something sounds outrageous, it probably will happen, especially to Luffy. After Water Luffy and Baka Luffy, expect the unexpected in each arc to Luffys new (temporary) looks. The very fact that Oda even hinted at the possibility just by Iva doing it to someone else, usually means at some point it will happen, maybe not neccesarily for the healing process but highly likely before the end of the arc.
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Its kinda an unwritten rule in this series. If something sounds outrageous, it probably will happen, especially to Luffy. After Water Luffy and Baka Luffy, expect the unexpected in each arc to Luffys new (termporary) looks. The very fact that Oda even hinted at the possibility just by Iva doing it someone else, usually means at some point it will happen, maybe not neccesarily for the healing process but highly likely before the end of the arc.
Agreed, not forgetting Nightmare Luffy and Afro Luffy too!
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Iva said "through a passage that doesn't exist, you come to Newkama-Land!"
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Enjoyment is subjective, though complaining seems selfish when in terms of things we don't necessarily get anyways.
Is there something I missed then? Because blue's list seemed like a reasonable evaluation. Was there something else said elsewhere?
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The more I think about it, the more the line "It's disappearing" is horrifying. That poor bastard. That poor, poor fem-bastard.
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…and I thought that guy/gal was clutching at his/her crotch to keep those thick pants from falling off. How wrong I was...
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Is there something I missed then? Because blue's list seemed like a reasonable evaluation. Was there something else said elsewhere?
His wasn't bad in particular, mind you, but he reminded me of certain recurring useless bitching about not seeing Luffy in the chapter an such, like:
- It was great that we saw Magellans "progress" on the toilet but we saw none of luffy, buggy and mr3 or the marines…
Lumping in stuff like that with complaints just seems overall silly to me.
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The more I think about it, the more the line "It's disappearing" is horrifying. That poor bastard. That poor, poor fem-bastard.
…and I thought that guy/gal was clutching at his/her crotch to keep those thick pants from falling off. How wrong I was...
That has to be the worse feeling ever.
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That has to be the worse feeling ever.
I guess you've never been in a pool with really cold water?
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I guess you've never been in a pool with really cold water?
"It" never disappears and morphs into a vagina.
I'm cringing after read these last few posts.
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Oh well, at least now he can know what a female orgasm feels like.
If his lover is ever capable of giving him one.
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O_O wtf…...........?
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+1 on the WTF???
Time to close thie baby down? LOL
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-1 on the wtf
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