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[Viz Hater]

I say NO, anime is for teens and adults. Ignorant children are why One Piece is hated in America and why the Adult Swim has to be on so late at night. Any parents who let their tots watch anime should have the kids taken away and put in foster homes because one day a kid is going to copy somethng he saw on an anime and hurt/kill someone and it will be blames on anime. Do we really want Anime to have everything bad that kids do blamed on it like GTA and shooting games??

What do you think about the matter?

[Satsuki]

sigh Not all anime is for teens and adults, there's plenty of stuff out there that's perfectly all right for kids, even American ones, to watch. You need to expand your horizons more and see all the different anime that's out there.

An example? An anime that I watched as a kid myself (and realized years later that it was an anime) was Serendipity the Pink Dragon. Completely suitable for almost any age.

My Neighbor Totoro? Made specifically for kids.

Hello Kitty? Also for kids.

Doraemon? The equivalent of Sesame Street in Japan.

The list goes on . . .

[GoAnderson]

… I find myself at a loss for appropriate words, as usual.

It depends on the anime. Some, like Kiki's Delivery Service, say, are kid-oriented, I think. But things like LA BLUE GIRL AND BATTLE ROYALE? Hardly.

… which is a choice I added to the poll.

[Forte EXE]

What Satsuki said.
I grew up watching Japanese anime like Doraemon and Akazukin Cha Cha.
Even rather violent ones like Samurai X and DUAL!

[Zephos]

All right, fuck the rules anyway.

TO VIZHATER

Listen Joe, Have you ever mosied your ass over to the Television and pressed POWER? And den u wached them shows! Did you ever POSSIBLY entertain the thought that Anime is just like those millions of TV programs? Varying wildly in content and age-aim? Would you possibly entertain the IDEA that Anime isn't its own breed of animal? That its all in all EXACTLY like american Tv shows except with different cultural background and its all animated?

Wait I'll do your response for you.
" BUT GEEZ FELLAS ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE JAPAN IS A LAND WHERE PAPER IS MADE OUT OF GOLD AND NOBODY EVER DIES EVER BECAUSE THEYRE BIG BRAINED UNLIKE AMERIKA! LOLOLOL."

Shut the hell up.

I can't tell if your just being a troll, or your just backed into a corner by the sensible people and decide to foam at the mouth and flail your arms wildly to discourage predators.

REGARDLESS, your simply dragging down conversation after conversation. Like a Troll.
And Trolls …... nobody cares for.

Out?

Yhea.

[Paulie]

I never watched anime when I was a kid.

But I love My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki's Delivery Service, and those would be entirely appropriate for children. nods

[Shinagamithe3rd]

Theres quite a few kid anime out there. Most Hayao Miyazaki films, Pokemon, Doraemon, the list goes on and on. Problem is, not many of these kiddie animes make it to America because most Americans love to see our anime packed with inter planetary hyper battles with violent and gory deaths/injurys. Even most anime that are directed at kids here have to undergo extensive editing. Yu-Gi-Oh! had to edit out numerous character deaths, guns, alchohol, drug use, etc. One Piece, which is being directed at children as its main audience, has had the beejezus edited out of it and it still has'nt even gotten to the REAL violent parts. Even Pokemon was subjected to extensive edits and episode cuts. So if you were to say, do you think that the anime seen in america is only for adults (without it being horribly raped) I would have to say yes.

[Rasengan Zero]

It depends on the anime. I know that anime made up a large portion of what I watched when I was younger. Nowadays, I'm still into anime, but more deeper ones if you will. Not all anime and manga is directed towards youngsters or teenagers or adults. I mean, despite how awesome GTO and Goldenboy are, I can't imagine someone eight years old who'd be watching those shows. Well, actually, I can imagine an eight year old watching them. Reminds me of the time when those two kids in Wal-Mart asked for Vice City….. They looked, oh, about seven and five-ish? O_o

So, it depends. Some are geared for older audiences, like Berserk (I think) & Goldenboy. Some are geared for younger viewers, like perhaps Doraemon and Samurai Pizza Cats (I think).

[NeoShweaty]

i watched horror movies when i was like 5 with regularity, so by the time i got to anime few things phased me. I think it isnt the fault of the kids who watch anime or the parents who bitch about every little thing on tv but i is the fault of companies like 4kids who chose the wrong audience for their shows. One Piece in its original form was never intended for the youngest viewers on tv, so things like Doraemon might be better suited

[DarkShinobi]

THANK YOU ZEPH! I was about to go apeshit on him, but it seems you did the honros for me.

Someone add a new choice on the poll, "Viz Hater, you're a dumbass"

[Solar Knight]

Based on what Viz Hater said with his vote, Pokemon is a show targeted for teens and adults >_< . Stop being so narrow-minded!

It depends on what anime it is. I grew up watching Sailor Moon and I now watch stuff like Puni Puni Poemy and Golden Boy.

[Borlz]

Well am going to be short here but Viz Hater dont you know anime is the the word we use to discibe any cartoons from japan? Hell Anime is the word for animation and cartoons from here is called anime in Japan. Its just that animation is more wellcome form of entertament in Japan, thats why theres so many genres of it in japan. Here animation is mostly use in comdey(SP) and aimed at kids, that why I think that Most people view anime as an "More" adult from of animation.

[Cap'n Carter]

Originally posted by Zephos@Jun 9 2005, 07:45 PM
**All right, fuck the rules anyway.

TO VIZHATER

Listen Joe, Have you ever mosied your ass over to the Television and pressed POWER? And den u wached them shows! Did you ever POSSIBLY entertain the thought that Anime is just like those millions of TV programs? Varying wildly in content and age-aim? Would you possibly entertain the IDEA that Anime isn't its own breed of animal? That its all in all EXACTLY like american Tv shows except with different cultural background and its all animated?

Wait I'll do your response for you.
" BUT GEEZ FELLAS ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE JAPAN IS A LAND WHERE PAPER IS MADE OUT OF GOLD AND NOBODY EVER DIES EVER BECAUSE THEYRE BIG BRAINED UNLIKE AMERIKA! LOLOLOL."

Shut the hell up.

I can't tell if your just being a troll, or your just backed into a corner by the sensible people and decide to foam at the mouth and flail your arms wildly to discourage predators.

REGARDLESS, your simply dragging down conversation after conversation. Like a Troll.
And Trolls …... nobody cares for.

Out?

Yhea.
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I have a newfound respect for Zephos.

[KatanaJon]

**All right, fuck the rules anyway.

TO VIZHATER

Listen Joe, Have you ever mosied your ass over to the Television and pressed POWER? And den u wached them shows! Did you ever POSSIBLY entertain the thought that Anime is just like those millions of TV programs? Varying wildly in content and age-aim? Would you possibly entertain the IDEA that Anime isn't its own breed of animal? That its all in all EXACTLY like american Tv shows except with different cultural background and its all animated?

Wait I'll do your response for you.
" BUT GEEZ FELLAS ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE JAPAN IS A LAND WHERE PAPER IS MADE OUT OF GOLD AND NOBODY EVER DIES EVER BECAUSE THEYRE BIG BRAINED UNLIKE AMERIKA! LOLOLOL."

Shut the hell up.

I can't tell if your just being a troll, or your just backed into a corner by the sensible people and decide to foam at the mouth and flail your arms wildly to discourage predators.

REGARDLESS, your simply dragging down conversation after conversation. Like a Troll.
And Trolls …... nobody cares for.

Out?

Yhea.**

I love you Zephos.

[Paulie]

Zephos, will you marry me?

[Dragon Warrior Steve]

Originally posted by Paulie@Jun 9 2005, 08:35 PM
Zephos, will you marry me?
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No, I asked her to marry me first, wait, she's a dude, never mind.

[Bounty1Berry]

The problem isn't anime.

It's idiot parents. They still think "cartoon means kiddie." Result: screaming when any cartoon– anime OR western, presses anyone's buttons. It's reinforced by the tendency of parents to want their kids bubblewrapped from anything challenging or potentially offensive.

Parents seem to have figured it out with live-action shows. As long as animation remains percieved as a single niche, parents will sit their four-year-olds in front of the analogues of 'The Shield' or 'Sex in the City', and then blow their tops.

[Solar Knight]

Originally posted by Bounty1Berry@Jun 9 2005, 09:43 PM
**The problem isn't anime.

It's idiot parents. They still think "cartoon means kiddie." Result: screaming when any cartoon– anime OR western, presses anyone's buttons. It's reinforced by the tendency of parents to want their kids bubblewrapped from anything challenging or potentially offensive.

Parents seem to have figured it out with live-action shows. As long as animation remains percieved as a single niche, parents will sit their four-year-olds in front of the analogues of 'The Shield' or 'Sex in the City', and then blow their tops.
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THANK YOU! If the parents allow their children to watch certain shows or play certain games, they shouldn't have a single complaint. They should take responsibility instead of blaming others <_< …

[Captain Panda]

Having spent half of today watching Naruto with my 7 and 9 year old little brothers, my answer to this should be obvious. Anyone who's too big on their own ego to see that the cartoons they live can be and ARE MEANT TO BE enjoyed by all ages needs to think things through a little bit more. This is not to say ALL series are meant for kids, certainly, but many are, and it gets quite tedious to see people complain that shows are "kiddified" to meet with the standards for the audience that THEY'RE INTENDED FOR.

I also think a lot of people are quick to blame parents when parents aren't to blame either. Considering the content of most animated shows in the US, it's not really all that far fetched to assume (wrongly, I admit) that ALL cartoons are for kids. You try monitoring every last show that comes on the airwaves…it's not so easy. Things like Saturday morning lineups SHOULD be safe for children's viewing, because that's what they traditionally are. Are standards taken to extremes sometimes? Most certainly. Is this a result of some evil conspiracy of "soccer moms" who take pleasure in the fact that 1 out of maybe every 100 anime series that comes to the US finds itself cut to be slightly more suitable for American television? Well, no.

[Bounty1Berry]

Actually, I've heard it IS a conspiracy in some respects.

The FCC (responsible for regulating American broadcast TV) formerly got very few "offensive content" complaints, but the "morals" groups have gotten down the process of filing these complaints in huge numbers to a science in recent years. American broadcasters went paranoid after the Janet Jackson mess out of fear of FCC fines.

I can tolerate the concept of editing to audience. A huge problem though is uneven editing. If shows are targeted at the same audience, they deserve the same standard for editing.

Perhaps what's needed is simply a rule book, which both sides can see. If they say "we're editing OP with a target age of 11", we can just open the book and see what's going to be missing or likely replaced.

I don't expect parents to be aware of every programme. Every parent, however, has different needs, and should we expect the state and media to bow to the parents who both have the minimal allowances for content and the least control over the set?

Lastly, It's entirely possible to have shows which are "safe" yet don't seem completely drained of life. Indeed, shows which push the envelope can sometimes represent unique opportunities. Cartoons can handle controversial issues in ways that most live action can't. Discussing the concept of bigotry, for example, will offend a lot fewer people if it's from a purple talking rabbit insulting his green talking rabbit neighbour than if it were black and white people.

[Captain Panda]

The thing is, standards are pretty much set….at least in terms of laws. The fact of the matter is, many programs are edited beyond what is necessary by law. This is why editing often seems inconsistent. What you have to remember, too, though, is that more than simply a means of communication, television is BUSINESS. The goal is to get as many people watching your channel, and your shows (and therefore, your commercials) as possible. Not only that, but you want certain target audiences watching them. If your show runs with commercials for action figures, you don't want to market the program to geriatrics.

As you yourself mentioned, the feelings of some parents as to what is and is not suitable for their children varies; as my own example shows, we have kindergarten-aged kids watcing Naruto (and "worse" in some cases) in our house. I don't think this is because my parents and I are irresponsible, I think it's because we know what our own family members are capable of accepting.

Now, imagine for a moment. You are Al Kahn, or some other kids TV mogul. I know, it's kinda unpleasant, but bear with me. Now, you are trying to target, let's say, the 5-11 crowd with a new program. You can either edit it considerably, in order to get the widest amount of acceptance among younger audiences, and therefore increase the show's revenue, or you can only edit it as much as is necessary to get the rating you want (which isn't necessarily much)...and in doing so, break yourself off from a considerable percentage of the audience. Even if it's begrudgingly, you've got to admit which of those is better business sense. 4Kids makes more money than ADV Films for a reason.

In a way, it's also more than good business sense, as well. I've harped on this point before, but it's worth repeating: of the miniscule percentage of shows that do get hacked up for a TV release, most of them were originally tailored to younger audiences as well. One Piece is a "kids' show". That's part of its charm. In my eyes, all the hammer-guns in the world won't "butcher" a show more than taking it away from the friendliness and atmosphere it's supposed to project. Edits can change a show's FACE. Poor marketing can change it's SOUL.

[Quazo]

tips hat to zephos

i agree that it really depends on the anime. i mean, anime, like all tv, has an astoundingly wide demographic. depending on the show and its contents is when things start to get more specific, again, just like all tv.

[Valiantt]

Blah definitely depends on the show, but even THEN a children's show (in Japan) might be deemed inappropiate for children in the US. This just shows that the US and Japan possibly exhibit diverse values and limitations (perhaps regarind parental influence, social issues etc…that influence this certain show to be deemed appropiate or not)

FOR EXAMPLE: Pokemon is a renown "children's show" but even then it exhibits somewhat questionable elements for younger viewers, such as like James growing breasts in a bikini.

Thus I believe 2 aspects must be acknowledged
1.Depends on the show (heaven forbid, I would even show Mazinkaiser (some sexual themes), or Shin Getter Robo (violence) to children.) Thus perhaps editing would be an ideal way to present "SOME" anime to children
2.Depends on your family values for the child (the boundaries that are set to what is good or bad) to which this is the component that I believe is deterring children from procuring proper judgment between "right" and "wrong." For if children to not obtain these certain values of right and wrong, they have a high chance of distinguishing between "right" and "wrong" (to which Anime would only exacerbate this along with other television shows). ALSO they must develope a sense of reality (watching anime like DBZ would only distort their views of reality). THUS discretion must be acknowledged.

Personally I believe children (ranging from 1-8, possibly 9-10 even) shouldnt watch anime for during this period they are developing a sense of "right" and "wrong" as well as "reality" which is important for a healthy mind. BUT if the family sets up a boundary (and restricts what they can and CANNOT watch) then I would deem it appropiate (for certain shows) from the age of 7 and above.

[RomanMack]

Zephos insulted the BEEJEEZUS outta you Viz Hater but now it's my turn! Brace yourself! Japanese animation is like any other thing on t.v, it has different age ratings! Your one of those people who say "Anime is surpirior to everything, if you like anything else your a loser!" Really Viz Hater why you make this thread? Your just gonna get hate posts! There's nothin more to say, your one of the biggest losers i've talked to on the internent. Just stop posting and have a nice day… Though you don't deserve it. Ohh! I have a question for you before I leave. Did you hit your head when you were a baby or were you just born that way? Just asking.

[game2005]

You're in dire need for brains, Vizhater. Judging from what you said, it means that Pokemon, Hello Kitty, and Doraemon only to be viewed by teens/adults. You're really messed up there. You're really getting out of your mind when you said that One Piece is for teens but La BLue is for kids! Are you mentally fine or not?

[Forte EXE]

Well,even my 2 cousins aged 9 and 7 watch anime.They like One Piece.I supply them with new KF eps every month.(They live in Kuala Lumpur,I live in Johor Bahru)
They absolutely love it.Theyre currently at ep 136.Older one likes Nami,younger likes Zoro.
And my 2 younger bros watch anime too.They are not at all fazed by the violence or blood.

[NeoShweaty]

i think that is enough flaming of vizhater. I think it would be for the best if this topic was closed as a result of the flaming that is to come

[RomanMack]

Originally posted by gilrules2000@Jun 10 2005, 11:02 AM
i think that is enough flaming of vizhater. I think it would be for the best if this topic was closed as a result of the flaming that is to come
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Heh! Go ahead he got the point!

[Master Gold Dragon]

It depends on the anime. Find me ANY teen or adult who would willingly watch Hamtaro. Well…my friend Josh doesn't count. >_<

Viz Hater, you know nothing about anything you debate at all.

Heh I agree with DarkShinobi. Let's add another question on the poll.

[Soupster]

anime is not that different from many cartoons made in america and specifically marketed to kids. Whether or not to let the kids watch should be decided on a person to person basis, not a show to show one

[Master Gold Dragon]

I get what Viz Hater is trying to say. He's trying to say that American kids try and mimic almost everything they see on TV, while Japanese kids and most other kids are smart enough to realize it's just TV. That's why they have to take off all these shows on Fox and stuff, kids hurt themselves trying to do them. I know when I was a kid I was stupid enough to probably do all that crap too. But what he's saying about anime doesn't make any sense at all. There's kid-friendly anime and then hardcore porn anime. If almost all anime could only be watched by teens and adults, then a lot of anime would disappear since really it appeals to kids the most.

[Paulie]

Originally posted by Master Gold Dragon@Jun 10 2005, 01:01 PM
It depends on the anime. Find me ANY teen or adult who would willingly watch Hamtaro.
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….......What's wrong with Hamtaro?

[Master Gold Dragon]

Originally posted by Paulie+Jun 10 2005, 10:43 AM–>QUOTE(Paulie @ Jun 10 2005, 10:43 AM)

[RoboBlue]

After watching an episode of TMNT recently… I have to say that many of these standards are simply bullshit. Why is it that just because something is a "good old american show", the creators can get away with things like impaling people and other less subtle methods of death?
Also, I'd say that unless attention is called to a specific show, the laws are relatively unenforced. Special attention appears to be payed to foreign shows (for apparently unjust reasons), and thus we have One Piece and TMNT on the same channel. :/

[Right Click]

anime is japan is no different then cartoons in America. THEIR THE SAME THINGS.

we don't want our kids watching stripperella and they don't want their kids watching battle royale. But we can watch mickey mouse and doraemon and it's all good.

IT MOTHER FUCKING DEPENDS ON WHAT SERIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Mystery novels aren't "just for adults" anyone can read them. but it' depends on what the mystery novel is about.

and NEWS FLASH! what nationality you are has nothing to do with it. it's the culture. America and Japanese kids are brought up how their parents brought them out. THe Laws and the goverment have some restritions and such but it's all up to the parents and how you were raised. I know kids that watched alot of very grotesque shows as children and i've seen kids that aren't even alowed to watch TV.

[RoboBlue]

Networks are often leery of foreign-produced shows. o.o

[Shinagamithe3rd]

Yeah, I have to go with RoboBlue on this one. They set hisgher standards for japanese cartoons than american ones. I have honestly seen gorier stuff appear on Spongebob Squarepants than ANY syndicated anime show. The TMNT thing is true too. The episode where Donatello went to the future and seen all the other turtles get killed (Leonardo was impaled by his own swords, Raphael was shot with guns, etc.) and it showed everthing but the single moment when the swords entered Leonardo and a sillhouette of Raphael jerking around as he was getting shot. Where's this bullshit about Pokemon, Hello Kitty and Doraemon being for teens coming from anyway? The only really "offensive" things that would possibly make them both targeted at teens if they were released toward a teen audience in america was the ONE Pokemon ep where james had tits and then theres the occasional ass shot on Doraemon (In which american "kid" toons, Spongebob Squarepants and Rugrats, are filled with.) Thats bullshit.

[Anime Master]

You know, Viz Hater had an opinion on the matter, and you all yelled at him for it. Now it isnt the best opinion, or the worst ("I luv 4kids!" "Winx magic totally defeates One Piece powers!") but come on! Why pick on the poor guy just for saying something? What have we become? Lets stay on topic and leave him alone. I'm sorry but currently I am very sad…
Now on topic, it all depends on the anime.

[Valiantt]

True, this conversation should only RESTRICT itself to anime, but rather we should reflect on how american cartoons affect children as well.

[VildaHawk]

Are you suggesting censorship?

[Zephos]

Originally posted by Anime Master@Jun 10 2005, 04:26 PM
You know, Viz Hater had an opinion on the matter, and you all yelled at him for it. Now it isnt the best opinion, or the worst ("I luv 4kids!" "Winx magic totally defeates One Piece powers!") but come on! Why pick on the poor guy just for saying something? What have we become? Lets stay on topic and leave him alone. I'm sorry but currently I am very sad…
Now on topic, it all depends on the anime.
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Trolls are something of an exception.

[taboo]

Anime is a genre of cartoon. You can't limit who watches what.

EDIT: OH MI GAWD. HOLY GEBUS what is your people's problem?! Did VizHater kill your dog or somthing? What the hell are you getting so upset over?!

**All right, fuck the rules anyway.

TO VIZHATER

Listen Joe, Have you ever mosied your ass over to the Television and pressed POWER? And den u wached them shows! Did you ever POSSIBLY entertain the thought that Anime is just like those millions of TV programs? Varying wildly in content and age-aim? Would you possibly entertain the IDEA that Anime isn't its own breed of animal? That its all in all EXACTLY like american Tv shows except with different cultural background and its all animated?

Wait I'll do your response for you.
" BUT GEEZ FELLAS ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE JAPAN IS A LAND WHERE PAPER IS MADE OUT OF GOLD AND NOBODY EVER DIES EVER BECAUSE THEYRE BIG BRAINED UNLIKE AMERIKA! LOLOLOL."

Shut the hell up.

I can't tell if your just being a troll, or your just backed into a corner by the sensible people and decide to foam at the mouth and flail your arms wildly to discourage predators.

REGARDLESS, your simply dragging down conversation after conversation. Like a Troll.
And Trolls …... nobody cares for.**

Someone add a new choice on the poll, "Viz Hater, you're a dumbass"

Zephos insulted the BEEJEEZUS outta you Viz Hater but now it's my turn! Brace yourself! Japanese animation is like any other thing on t.v, it has different age ratings! Your one of those people who say "Anime is surpirior to everything, if you like anything else your a loser!" Really Viz Hater why you make this thread? Your just gonna get hate posts! There's nothin more to say, your one of the biggest losers i've talked to on the internent. Just stop posting and have a nice day… Though you don't deserve it. Ohh! I have a question for you before I leave. Did you hit your head when you were a baby or were you just born that way? Just asking.

You're in dire need for brains, Vizhater. Judging from what you said, it means that Pokemon, Hello Kitty, and Doraemon only to be viewed by teens/adults. You're really messed up there. You're really getting out of your mind when you said that One Piece is for teens but La BLue is for kids! Are you mentally fine or not?

…... Oh gawd. Damn, how can you all be so...... ? Geez! I think he got the point after Zephos' first post but then all you other people tore at him. Gotta jump at him right? Gotta show him how superior you are compared to him?! Oh gawd. I've lost respect for all of you.......

Trolls are something of an exception.

What the?!? How is he a troll?!

[Viz Hater]

Originally posted by taboo@Jun 10 2005, 07:10 PM
**Anime is a genre of cartoon. You can't limit who watches what.

EDIT: OH MI GAWD. HOLY GEBUS what is your people's problem?! Did VizHater kill your dog or somthing? What the hell are you getting so upset over?!

**All right, fuck the rules anyway.

TO VIZHATER

Listen Joe, Have you ever mosied your ass over to the Television and pressed POWER? And den u wached them shows! Did you ever POSSIBLY entertain the thought that Anime is just like those millions of TV programs? Varying wildly in content and age-aim? Would you possibly entertain the IDEA that Anime isn't its own breed of animal? That its all in all EXACTLY like american Tv shows except with different cultural background and its all animated?

Wait I'll do your response for you.
" BUT GEEZ FELLAS ITS DIFFERENT BECAUSE JAPAN IS A LAND WHERE PAPER IS MADE OUT OF GOLD AND NOBODY EVER DIES EVER BECAUSE THEYRE BIG BRAINED UNLIKE AMERIKA! LOLOLOL."

Shut the hell up.

I can't tell if your just being a troll, or your just backed into a corner by the sensible people and decide to foam at the mouth and flail your arms wildly to discourage predators.

REGARDLESS, your simply dragging down conversation after conversation. Like a Troll.
And Trolls …... nobody cares for.**

Someone add a new choice on the poll, "Viz Hater, you're a dumbass"

Zephos insulted the BEEJEEZUS outta you Viz Hater but now it's my turn! Brace yourself! Japanese animation is like any other thing on t.v, it has different age ratings! Your one of those people who say "Anime is surpirior to everything, if you like anything else your a loser!" Really Viz Hater why you make this thread? Your just gonna get hate posts! There's nothin more to say, your one of the biggest losers i've talked to on the internent. Just stop posting and have a nice day… Though you don't deserve it. Ohh! I have a question for you before I leave. Did you hit your head when you were a baby or were you just born that way? Just asking.

You're in dire need for brains, Vizhater. Judging from what you said, it means that Pokemon, Hello Kitty, and Doraemon only to be viewed by teens/adults. You're really messed up there. You're really getting out of your mind when you said that One Piece is for teens but La BLue is for kids! Are you mentally fine or not?

…... Oh gawd. Damn, how can you all be so...... ? Geez! I think he got the point after Zephos' first post but then all you other people tore at him. Gotta jump at him right? Gotta show him how superior you are compared to him?! Oh gawd. I've lost respect for all of you.......

Trolls are something of an exception.

What the?!? How is he a troll?!
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Don't worry, I have learned to ignore the cries of attention that children want. They are angry at the truth and need to grow up and accept that "MOST" anime is for teens and adults. I never said that Pokemon is for teens and adults, I don't even consider that crap to be anime, they made that up out of their own anger at the facts. In the words of ADV "Anime is…...... Not kids stuff!!!!!!!

FREAKIN OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roman Mack: Please do 1 (or both) of the following:

Get over yourself

Report your bashing to the mods before I do

[Cap'n Carter]

If anime isn't for kids, I guess you shouldn't watch it either considering the way you're acting.

[GoAnderson]

Zephos, I have to say that I'll need to warn you. Sorry.

Zephos was not owned. I hesitate to say who was, but everyone knows it anyway. What ADV says is not the word of GOD. So, take everything man says to you in stride; chances are he's just blowing smoke. Which is, I believe, the case for one side of the argument. A smokescreen – that is all.

... No further comment necessary. Zephos, you are hereby warned. And, Viz Hater... Please, watch yourself.

[Cap'n Carter]

And I dunno why you're using ADV for your arguments, since you complained about them and their uses of the "f-word" several times in other threads.

[RomanMack]

Originally posted by Viz Hater+Jun 10 2005, 08:48 PM–>QUOTE(Viz Hater @ Jun 10 2005, 08:48 PM)

[game2005]

You must know the meaning first:

Anime = animation made in Japan.
Cartoon = animation made in USA.

Anime is what they call cartoons in Japan. Cartoon is what they call anime in USA. Get the point? You cannot defy this, EVERY animation made in Japan are called animes, no matter how kiddy and lame they are.

[taboo]

Anime = animation made in Japan.
Cartoon = animation made in USA.

Ah, what's the difference? Is it what they're made out of? If it's the style then what would you call American made anime-styled shows like Avatar? What if the Simpsons were outsourced to studios in Japan? Would the Simpsons be considered anime? xP

I think that anime is merely a stereotype. :3 Ya know? I didn't even think One Piece was a real manga/anime because the style was so different than from what I'm used to. :lol:

Don't listen to me, I'm a crazy person. :ph34r:

[StrawHatLuffy]

It depends on the anime… If the anime does have too much violent scenes, I would not recommend Kids to watch them.

By kids, you meant those below 12?