! Shooooooooguuuunnnnnnnn kayoooooooooooooo
! I was fooled so easily. I should've known better, damn you Sorachi!
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Gintama Discussion
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Chapter's out
! Even thought I'm disappointed in some ways, still…
The FRIGGIN' SHOGUN! -
Whew, Okita didn't kick the bucket yet and Shige^2 is alive!!!
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Well we are back to status quo I'm disappointed. But knowing Sorachi I think there will be other bloody surprises…
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The shogun might be allright, but now Hattori is in trouble.
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The shogun might be allright, but now Hattori is in trouble.
He's the damsel in distress now.
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Well, it seems the long awaited final battle is near. It might really be the final arc…
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Well damn, although the build up was there i couldn't believe that this might be the final arc.
Now the chances are real.
God this took me off guard.
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Shit just got real.
Brace yourselves, people.
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So this does feel like the final arc/fight after all.
It's just a shame though that the whole "drama" bits of leaving the ninjas and Hijikata and Gorilla behind feel cheap as it doesn't look like a single one of the good guys gonna get killed. Throw a hundred Yato warriors, the most feared and best at hand to hand combat with superstrength, speed and regeneration power - and all those 100 supervillian grunts can achieve are a couple scratches on 4 guys and a girl. Heck, they didn't even got close enough to the Shogun to SPIT on him. They didn't felt like real danger at all. Kind of disappointing.
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I was also disappointed with the yato, but it is not that surprising. Gintoki beated Housen and is on par with Umibozu. Remember that Kamui killed a Yato with one shot. So even among Yato there are ranks and levels of power. Abuto seems to be among the strongest ones seeing how Gintoki and the others ran away. I really like the style of this character. In all mangas that I know, I never saw any other villain of this kind!
About this arc being the final one, even if the chances are real, I don't think it will happen unless Zura appears in the next chapters. In the Benizakura arc, Zura and Gintoki said that they will destroy Takasugi together. And there's also the mimawaragumi guy who still didn't appear. And Oboro too. So unless Sorachi wants to rush the ending, I think that Gintama will still be there for another year at least. -
Just wondering if i should start reading the manga now or wait for it to be finished and then marathon it ?
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Just wondering if i should start reading the manga now or wait for it to be finished and then marathon it ?
Now. And the anime is great too (even better imo)
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I was also disappointed with the yato, but it is not that surprising. Gintoki beated Housen and is on par with Umibozu. Remember that Kamui killed a Yato with one shot. So even among Yato there are ranks and levels of power. Abuto seems to be among the strongest ones seeing how Gintoki and the others ran away. I really like the style of this character. In all mangas that I know, I never saw any other villain of this kind!
About this arc being the final one, even if the chances are real, I don't think it will happen unless Zura appears in the next chapters. In the Benizakura arc, Zura and Gintoki said that they will destroy Takasugi together. And there's also the mimawaragumi guy who still didn't appear. And Oboro too. So unless Sorachi wants to rush the ending, I think that Gintama will still be there for another year at least.Yeah, those guys could still appear, though. The arc's not over.
Then there are other possibilities like this arc is just a "transition" arc or something. Like the villains aren't beaten but the series goes into like a different stage, like after the big war in One Piece.
Sorachi's never been one to just do the DBZ-esque "All these guys are out of commission, that's why only the two main characters can fight". Usually it's just some characters are in the arc or not.
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But what could be bigger than the Shogun's assassination is what i find perplexing. Sure they can end the whole Kiheitai right here and move the story to a bigger scope but what will that include ?
Right now both Harusame Elders and the Tendoshu are the two big forces that can be considered the big baddies of the series but we still don't have any information about them (Oboro being the only exception but still).
The only thing that kinda makes sense to me is this being the end of a first part that was only revolving around saving the Shogun from inside Edo. And then we might have a second part that focuses on freeing Edo from the Amanto's control.
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Yeah, those guys could still appear, though. The arc's not over.
Then there are other possibilities like this arc is just a "transition" arc or something. Like the villains aren't beaten but the series goes into like a different stage, like after the big war in One Piece.
Sorachi's never been one to just do the DBZ-esque "All these guys are out of commission, that's why only the two main characters can fight". Usually it's just some characters are in the arc or not.
We'll see, I guess.Yeah, I think too that the transition concept like the big war in One Piece is the most probable thing to happen. With Takasugi on the move himself, the chances of having the Shogun sharing the same fate than Ace are very strong. And even if it won't be the shogun, I'm pretty confident that we will have a main death in this arc. Sorachi still has an Ace up his sleeves… :ninja:
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I think a more likely conclusion is that the Shogun succeeds in his plan of becoming "Just Shigeshige" and someone else becomes shogun. But who knows.
I dunno if one of Gintama's arcs ever had a "sad ending". They always end full of hope despite imperfections. The closest thing to that is the death of Shoyou-sensei. -
Well as sad endings we already had the Shinsengumi Crisis arc with the death of the guy with lunets (forgot his name) and the death of Okita's sister too. And I don't think that Shigeshige will manage to become a regular man. He's too much implicated now with the whole "shogun duty" to resign and now that Takasugi knows he's alive, he will never let him in peace till he kills him.
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http://bato.to/read/_/277288/gintama_v57_ch513_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru/1
Chapter's out, and oh boy, I'm really excited for the next chapter.
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The Yato might be like the Viltrumites from Incincible - scary reputation and above average all of them, but only a relative few of them are actually Top Tier threats. There's a lot of variance in powerlevels, some of them just seem to be made out of tissue paper.
Also, Hattori totally threw that shit before he walked in the room.
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That last page!!!! Can't wait till next week.
@Big_Bad_Lith:The Yato might be like the Viltrumites from Incincible - scary reputation and above average all of them, but only a relative few of them are actually Top Tier threats. There's a lot of variance in powerlevels, some of them just seem to be made out of tissue paper.
Also, Hattori totally threw that shit before he walked in the room.
I should send your ass back to Crenshaw Pete with his hot-ass coat hangers, bitch. Would you like that?
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I should send your ass back to Crenshaw Pete with his hot-ass coat hangers, bitch. Would you like that?
Shh, mama. You're gonna wake up the rest of the bitches.
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Why is the Shinsengumi captain with the fro not here? I guess he's a comedy character only. Katsura's also a notable absentee.
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The shinsengumi afro works only on internal investigation. Katsura, however, has no excuses.
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Hey guys, I just finished the anime and I'm asking what chapter I should start reading the manga at?
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The anime covers up to chapter 410, even thought there are a few standalone stories prior to 410 that the anime skipped.
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Of the top of my head, only laketoya part 2 is skipped.
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They skipped the Tama x Yamazaki chapter and a Bakuman one as well.
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Oh.. Those were cool ones. I only checked from the start to one of it's endings, probably before the timeskip one.
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New chapter's out.
http://bato.to/read/_/278733/gintama_v57_ch514_by_hi-wa-mata-noboru/1And the moment we have been waiting for a long time has come.
And to think we have to wait a week for the next chapter. Oh, the pain. -
Oh shit! The hype train is on!
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Holy fuck I need a time machine like right now.
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Epic. I only hope it's not the final arc…
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I think we need zura for it to be the final arc. He's the only piece missing imo
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I think we need zura for it to be the final arc. He's the only piece missing imo
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I think we need zura for it to be the final arc. He's the only piece missing imo
we also need the mimawarigumi which are quite linked with the hitotsubashi faction
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I'm sticking by my theory that there's no way this can be the final arc. Because there's still a bunch of hanging threads. Oboro and the Naraku haven't been delved into. Sasaki and how he supports Takasugi's plan hasn't been gone into. Katsura and Sakamoto aren't around, and the fact that Mutsu is a Yato would probably be important. And the Tendoushuu, who are seemingly the guys that control everything would have to come into play in some shape or form.
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This is a gamechanger, and what sets up the rest of the series, but it just can't end.
It probably will end with Takatsuki's Joi faction dismantled, so he will be more accepting to ally with the other villians.
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I totally agree with Kewl. The manga also can't end without having the 3 main plots ended:
-Gintoki earns enough money to pay Otose
-Kagura earns enough money to go back home
-Shinpachi and Otae reopen the familial dojo.
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I never saw Takasugi as a final villain. Actually, in my mind I always expected to become some sort of "ally" in the final battle against the Tendoshu.
So, I'm seeing this arc as one of the last (awesome) set-up arc before the final one. -
It's not unheard of for a long running series to just up and end with no proper conclusion, just throwing that out there. Though I don't think they would axe off gintama like that.
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It's not unheard of for a long running series to just up and end with no proper conclusion, just throwing that out there. Though I don't think they would axe off gintama like that.
Gintama has already surpased Dragon Ball in lenght, there's no precedent anymore, other than that, there's Jojo's, Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Kochikame.
In Sorachi's tier, there's only Prince of Tenis and this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_no_%C5%8Ckami
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New chapter is out and it is pretty neat.
Go Kagura!
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Gintama has already surpased Dragon Ball in lenght, there's no precedent anymore, other than that, there's Jojo's, Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, Kochikame.
In Sorachi's tier, there's only Prince of Tenis and this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_no_Ōkami
depends on how you count length. Gintama has more volumes, but dragonball still has more chapters. And there are quite a few long running manga that are much longer than Dragonball. Hell, there's a decent number longer than One Piece
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Yeaaaaah, the Yato look very underwhelming now that ninjas and Shinpachi can take them down. But that only ups the badass levels of the guys taking them down.
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Finally we will see Gintoki's answer. Will he do better than Umibozu? I simply love Gintama because of moments like this one! -
Yeaaaaah, the Yato look very underwhelming now that ninjas and Shinpachi can take them down. But that only ups the badass levels of the guys taking them down.
They look like second-rated thugs so far! I take that back, second-rated thugs had dealt far more damage against Gintoki, Kagura and Shinpachi than those space wussies have achieved so far! Heck, no-face background ninjas are able to kill those "best fighters of the universe" warriors! How the hell am I supposed to feel any tension in those fights when they feel so cheap to win against?
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They look like second-rated thugs so far! I take that back, second-rated thugs had dealt far more damage against Gintoki, Kagura and Shinpachi than those space wussies have achieved so far! Heck, no-face background ninjas are able to kill those "best fighters of the universe" warriors! How the hell am I supposed to feel any tension in those fights when they feel so cheap to win against?
I know, it's like the Shinra all over again. Sorachi waved that off by saying that it was their brains that made them formidable. I wonder what's the excuse this time. I wish the Yato would've forced the Shogun and company to fight creatively like the shinobi they are.
Oh yeah, there's also the race Hedoro belongs to, who was hyped to be in the Yato's league at the beginning of the series. Wonder when they'll show up?
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Don't wanna be that guy, but I'm sorta confused by the "power" hierarchy of Gintama. Shit feel dirty for even mentioning that. Rock on Kagura though!
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Oh yeah, there's also the race Hedoro belongs to, who was hyped to be in the Yato's league at the beginning of the series. Wonder when they'll show up?
They already have, in the bath chapter. They are gag characters, thought.
Nah.
