Chapter 513 "I couldn't even…!!!" Discussion
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Yay first post for once xDD
Thanks…Great chapter^^(I wonder if there´s already a scanlation somewhere.....)
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Tanks.
16 tank yous
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Thanks !!!!!
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w00t finally.
Thanks for the raw.
"Is it more painful to cry when you can't do something you want to, or when you can't find what you want to do?""In time there will come a day when everything is just a memory."
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Finally. Depressing as this one is, it's one of the best chapters I've read.
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Agree with Smith.
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Wow, Really cool chapter and great cliff hanger hook.
Personally I would not like Oda to just jump straight into the whitebeard fight or where the Strawhats were sent right away, I think this would be a good opportunity to give a little bit of back story.
Like the next chapter could start with Kidd ready to fight Kuma (bot?), then cuts back to him and his crew entering the Grandline and for one chapter per supernova crew it shows flashes of what happened to them on their voyage.
This lets us know at what point and how they got there bounties, whom they fought (warlords – other crews - marines) with and who was added to there crew on the Grandline – also if they visited any of the islands the Strawhat’s did as some paths may cross (they may even have affected the strawhats in some way), this also would let us know, partially, what kind of struggles they went through and if they evolved the powers they have in some way.
I suppose if this happened Uroge and Drake would take up half a chapter each being that they probably began half way through the grand line but meh I’m sure Oda would sort it out.
The final chapter of flashes would be Law’s and at the end it shows him get blasted by Kuma (bot?) then the chapter after it shows the Kuma (bot?) Vs Kidd + (Vs) Law fight, then cuts to Whitebeard at that point…
Just my two cents – I hope we get to know more about the Nova’s but can anyone really predict the Odanator??
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Can someone upload it to MF please ?
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It's in the works
Good to know,thanks^^
This is an epic (I think the last chaps were epic too,but this chapter is even more epic xD) chapter,so I can´t wait for the scan.
And I just can´t wait for the chapter next week ^^ -
badman, that's a horrible idea. It would take up way too much fucking time.
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thx for the raw!!! ;) well i have to admit one of the best chapters, if not "the best" i love luffys emotion in this one…it shows his connection to the crew...they are more than just crewmates for him...seeing a captian cry for his crew like that...awesome...oda great job
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They all got sent back to Reverse Mountain and they will each take a different route to fully conquer the first half of the grand line. Nami will team up with Zoro for navigational purposes.
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You are one cool dude. Thanks!
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Yowza, thanks a bunch Kiavik.^^
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Thanks to everyone who provided the chap!
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One Piece 513 released by Binktopiahttp://www.mangashare.com/dl/One-Piece_513/3949/
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Thanks for the chapter, guys.
W…T...F...this probably is the most jaw-dropping moment ever, even worse than being destroyed by Aokiji. In nine swipes, Kuma has made all of the SHs dissapear like nothing. And Luffy...poor Luffy...I can't even tell where this story is going to go now!
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
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Yay. Thanks folks.
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and let wait begin again for the next chapter, man that was crazy ODA = GOD
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Ok… just read the translation and the raw....
On wednesday i thought that Kuma gave the Strawhats a fly for 3 days and kind of saves them from Kizaru. And i understood the whispering with Rayleigh in a completely different way.
The strawhats are now in the biggest danger they have ever been. Each one is on his own. (The crew is scattered was said in the chapters end from the narrator). 300.000.000 for his head and he can barely move... he is an easy target.
Kuma says to Rayleigh he doesnt know either.... and to Kizaru he hasnt to answer the question. Interpretation: Kuma doesnt act on his own… there has to be a mission, he didnt even go to the meeting because of this.If Kuma went here on his own, there are some serious questions:
1.) Why did Kuma know of this situation?
2.) Why is it more important than the meeting?
3.) What does he gain by scattering pirates?Now that the Strawhats are scattered i predict some major scene change: Next week we get to see the Shichibukai and the Whitebeard plot! Thats just Oda's style, cliffhanger to pick up another part of the story to raise the tension. (If he goes directly to the single Strawhats we will have no time to get the WB plot, now is the time!)
Btw: Didnt expect Gear Second… and how useless Soru and Jet Pistol were...
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Ok… just read the translation and the raw....
On wednesday i thought that Kuma gave the Strawhats a fly for 3 days and kind of saves them from Kizaru. And i understood the whispering with Rayleigh in a completely different way.
The strawhats are now in the biggest danger they have ever been. Each one is on his own. (The crew is scattered was said in the chapters end from the narrator). 300.000.000 for his head and he can barely move... he is an easy target.
Kuma says to Rayleigh he doesnt know either.... and to Kizaru he hasnt to answer the question. Interpretation: Kuma doesnt act on his own… there has to be a mission, he didnt even go to the meeting because of this.If Kuma went here on his own, there are some serious questions:
1.) Why did Kuma know of this situation?
2.) Why is it more important than the meeting?
3.) What does he gain by scattering pirates?Now that the Strawhats are scattered i predict some major scene change: Next week we get to see the Shichibukai and the Whitebeard plot! Thats just Oda's style, cliffhanger to pick up another part of the story to raise the tension. (If he goes directly to the single Strawhats we will have no time to get the WB plot, now is the time!)
Btw: Didnt expect Gear Second… and how useless Soru and Jet Pistol were...
Well yeah I hope for WB vs the rest too… but I like the idea that the SH are teleported all the way to WB... But they aren't ready for the big battles for now.
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Kuma said that the goverment is involved... So maybe they are planing something with the SH behin marines back -
thanks for everything.
now the translation should that, in a way, confirm none of the strawhats are together.
at least thats what I get from reading this.:sad:
wonder if each strawhat will get thier own Arc or chapter since it says Scattered?
or wonder how it will turn out on scatter?and I wonder how they will travel since sunny is not there anymore for any of them
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Btw: Didnt expect Gear Second… and how useless Soru and Jet Pistol were...
Luffy didn't even use soru. Didn't when he went up against the kumabot either (that we saw)
Also, the government isn't involved. You read his line wrong. "We have no obligation to operate with the marines save [apart from] where the WG is involved"
I'm guessing you missed the "save" first time over
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Well yeah I hope for WB vs the rest too… but I like the idea that the SH are teleported all the way to WB... But they aren't ready for the big battles for now.
EDIT
Kuma said that the goverment is involved... So maybe they are planing something with the SH behin marines backor maybe they don't want the strawhats to effect anything which is about to happen with wb attacking
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Why are some of you thinking that they aren't together? That would be without sense. Kums plans something so they need to stay together.
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Why are some of you thinking that they aren't together? That would be without sense. Kums plans something so they need to stay together.
Uh one of the lines is the SH are scattered. thats what I see on the trans
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Well but for me it is without sense… but let us wait for other translations.
I still wonder how Garp will fit in. He is on the way to the island.
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Uh one of the lines is the SH are scattered. thats what I see on the trans
It's one of those lines writen by the Jump guys, they're not always truth
Edit: Even so, they are scattered at this moment, that doesn't mean they won't arrive at the same destination…
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this is epic. thanks
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Well yeah I hope for WB vs the rest too… but I like the idea that the SH are teleported all the way to WB... But they aren't ready for the big battles for now.
EDIT
Kuma said that the goverment is involved… So maybe they are planing something with the SH behin marines backNo, Kuma said that he doesn't have to answer to the mariners when WG has no interest in the business.
Why are some of you thinking that they aren't together? That would be without sense. Kums plans something so they need to stay together.
As said, the last page says so. I personally would expect them to be on the red line. Also where do you seem Kuma planning anything ? He's motives are unknown for us.
Well but for me it is without sense… but let us wait for other translations.
I still wonder how Garp will fit in. He is on the way to the island.
It's not Odas style to make us believe something, like Garp coming to find Rayleigh and then no do it. So I'd belive that there are two possibilities for next week.
a) We see WB crew/the WG meeting.
b) We see Garp arrive and as he has prepared for Rayleigh he'll drive him away. Also we'll finally see Garps true power. -
Guys, Garp never said he was coming personally. He just said he'd "handle it"
He might be partly responsible for Kuma's actions
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Excellent chapter! One of the best.
It took one Kuma to get Strawhats out of the scene. What were his intentions?
Poor Luffy… couldn't save his nakama. This chapter showed how truly he cares for them.
Sooner or later they should find each other, but what about Zoro? His injured badly and his sense of directions simply sucks... He'll never find them
The rest of the crew will have to search for him...
Can't wait for next chapter, though I doubt it'll be focusing on the Strawhats... Maybe on the fight between White Beard pirates (with Shanks?) and Shichibukai?
But what about Law and Kidd? They were accused of the same crime as Strawhats, but still Oda hasn't shown what has happened with them. Maybe in the next chapter he'll bring this to conclusion? Maybe Kizaru will pursuit them, now that the Strawhats are gone...
But what'll happen with Kuma and Rayleigh?
So may quistions, no answers, only speculations.
I wish the time flew faster, so the next chapter would be sooner
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I love this chapter. We get Sanji and Luffy freaking out, and find out more about the shichibukai with admirals having no authority over them.
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Why dont the mods sticky the thread? :)
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Regarding Kid and Law: I think they may get off light due to fighting "by association". The WG knew that Luffy hit the noble and those two just fought with him to get out of the auction house. For all we know, they could have destroyed their Pacifista and be back out to sea…the main mission was mostly to get rid of the main troublemakers and that was the SHs. (which was "sort of" accomplished by Kuma, though not the annihilation Kizaru was probably there to do)
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@Tokoro:
Regarding Kid and Law: I think they may get off light due to fighting "by association". The WG knew that Luffy hit the noble and those two just fought with him to get out of the auction house. For all we know, they could have destroyed their Pacifista and be back out to sea…the main mission was mostly to get rid of the main troublemakers and that was the SHs. (which was "sort of" accomplished by Kuma, though not the annihilation Kizaru was probably there to do)
What do you mean get off light. They're still wanted pirates, it's just a matter of WHO does them in.
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What do you mean get off light. They're still wanted pirates, it's just a matter of WHO does them in.
Yes they're wanted pirates but they weren't the ones who hit the Noble. They just did their normal pirate things of fighting Marines and such once the chaos started. And besides, facing one Pacifista is easy compared to facing two Pacifistas, an Admiral, the bodyguard of the brains of the WG and a Shichibukai all at once.
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Oh, I thought you were meaning Kizaru would let them get away because they didnt hit the noble.
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I'm not the one to usually complain, but Franky House's translation sucks this time. On Onemanga.com they even skipped the first page spread..THE WHOLE FIRST TWO PAGES. Guess I gotta wait for one piece hq trans.
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I doubt Tenryuubito would care that Kidd and Law were just watching whole scene of their kinsman being beaten by Luffy and didn't actually take part in it. They are pirates and just that makes them guilty.
Besides Kizaru didn't come just for the Strawhats, he's target are Law and Kidd as well. -
OneManga Mirror: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/513/01/
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I'm not the one to usually complain, but Franky House's translation sucks this time. On Onemanga.com they even skipped the first page spread..THE WHOLE FIRST TWO PAGES. Guess I gotta wait for one piece hq trans.
Or you could just download the Binktopia release. the link is on the first page : /
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I was wondering where Kuma could have put his bible when he was fighting . Cause i rmb there were some scenes where it shows both of his hands and the bible isnt there
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Well the two big things were that it was confirmed that they only defeated one Pacifista and that was PX4, PX1 was their second Pacifista encounter and Kuma was their third.
Also, how great a chapter was that, i felt Luffy's emotions fully. Can't wait to see how they regroup and power up.
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@123:
I was wondering where Kuma could have put his bible when he was fighting . Cause i rmb there were some scenes where it shows both of his hands and the bible isnt there
Not in this chapter, or I'm simply blind ;)
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@123:
I was wondering where Kuma could have put his bible when he was fighting . Cause i rmb there were some scenes where it shows both of his hands and the bible isnt there
In his big jacket
Actually looking at the chapter again he just swaps it quickly, and his other hand (the one with the bible) is hidden alot. Probably a few frames of him without it though
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I'd say under his hat.
