You know what come to think of it, why are people complaining about Diable Jambe, meanwhile Sanji can fly by KICKING THE AIR
General 'Haki' Discussion
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You know what come to think of it, why are people complaining about Diable Jambe, meanwhile Sanji can fly by KICKING THE AIR
It makes sense if you don't think about it.
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It makes sense if you don't think about it.
I think the wise decision is to not "think" about what Haki is or isn't, but instead "feel" what it is and isn't.
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I think the wise decision is to not "think" about what Haki is or isn't, but instead "feel" what it is and isn't.
I can take this statement in several ways, but I'll stay with the intended purpose.
Mystery Power.
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The Boa sisters are hints to what sanji is doing. Nobody can just light themselves on fire without some type of protection. It is pretty straight forward to me. Haki means will power, ambition.
Some people are saying its not haki, its just his willpower that allows him to not get burned. Willpower is haki.
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I am really tired of people Using the excuse that this is a fantasy manga.We know that but even the fantasy elements have rules!A rule in all shounen is that the powers in it have principles by which they work.For example in Naruto the powers fall under Ninjitsu,Genjutsu and Taijutsu.If a character suddenly pulled out a power that didnt fall under any of this category it would be an asspull unless its properly explained,forehadowed and introduced to the stories
Now onto One piece.In One piece we have 3 main powers that humans can posses
1.Df powers
2.Extraordinary physical abilities
3.HakiSanjis power to erupt into flames must therefore fall into one of this category-otherwise it would mean Oda has introduced a completely new power that needs to be proper explained.If not then its an asspull.Same goes for Asura.
I mean think about it if sanji is able to burst through flames with sheer anger whats stopping others from doing it.Apoparently all you have to do is be angry enough right?See what I mean there has to be more to it -
Asura is just a SKILL, FFS.
About Sanji, the real question is "how the hell did he learn haki?". Luffy needed 1 year and half to learn it with a teacher, while Sanji had no teacher, was most of the time running and fightning okamas and Iva didn't show any haki skill.
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Asura is just a SKILL, FFS.
About Sanji, the real question is "how the hell did he learn haki?". Luffy needed 1 year and half to learn it with a teacher, while Sanji had no teacher, was most of the time running and fightning okamas and Iva didn't show any haki skill.
The only way I could see Sanji learning haki in those two years is if being chased all that time by those okama "guys" was very traumatic for him. So, like Coby, he could have been so traumatised it kinda awakended haki in him. Just to clarify, I don't think Sanji has haki right now, I think he'll get it eventually but yeah, that's my 2 cents.
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Iva didn't show any haki skill.
But he knew what it was. For someone as high up as he is, I'd be surprised if he didn't have an understanding of it, and furthermore, if mastered Okama Kenpo didn't utilize it somewhere, somehow. Sanji's pretty smart, in any case, and the argument exists that Sanji's Diable Jambe already used haki, he just didn't know that was what he was doing. Just like the argument about Zoro with Shishi Sonson, among other things. Or the Mantra/Observation similarity? Similar abilities from different people with slightly different results, or the same results, or entirely new results. Sanji could learn later that what he was doing was haki. [Insert details for Sanji]
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That particular argument that "Sanji was using haki for Diable Jamble but wasn't aware of it" is very far-fetched, when he used DJ he was aware of what he was doing and didn't have the need to train for a year or so in order to use it.
Now, the problem with the issue of Iva having haki is, again, that he didn't show any skill at it. Granted, he knows about it as he recognized it when Luffy used it at MF, but it could also be because he witnessed Dragon using it once (if he has it of course). Anyway, the possibilites are vast, but I find Sanji knowing haki unlikely.
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That particular argument that "Sanji was using haki for Diable Jamble but wasn't aware of it" is very far-fetched, when he used DJ he was aware of what he was doing and didn't have the need to train for a year or so in order to use it.
Just because it took Luffy a year to learn– master?-- the basics of haki, meaning both observation and armour, doesn't mean someone else cannot unknowingly learn one aspect of haki by other means and/or shorter time frames. Plus, Sanji would have learned it pre-timeskip, and who knows how long Diable Jambe took him to develop? In any case, I personally don't find the suggestion far-fetched when: Sandersonia, who excelled in Observation, was hurt by the same fire that didn't touch Marigold, who excelled in armour. Also, whenever Sanji became fatigued and tried to continually use Diable Jambe (two times now), his leg would start to hurt– though maybe I am remembering the scenes wrong? I mean, how else do we justify him surviving such intense heat so close to his body? The "cook" excuse only holds up so long.
Anyway, the possibilites are vast, but I find Sanji knowing haki unlikely.
I find it much more unlikely that Oda would send Sanji and Zoro in to the New World without them having some level of proficiency with it. Not mastery, per se, but the ability to use it one way or another. I'm of course in no position to say definitively that both know how to use it, but we all know the arguments, and we all know Oda loves to tie things together, so rather than all three of them (Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji) having a teacher, it would be great if one or two of them learned some (or most) of their use on their own, through their own discovery. Seems a bit late in the game for them to be learning such things, now, and would give them significant power boosts if they did. Better if they already know it and just grow their level of proficiency over time.
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I am really tired of people Using the excuse that this is a fantasy manga.We know that but even the fantasy elements have rules!A rule in all shounen is that the powers in it have principles by which they work.For example in Naruto the powers fall under Ninjitsu,Genjutsu and Taijutsu.If a character suddenly pulled out a power that didnt fall under any of this category it would be an asspull unless its properly explained,forehadowed and introduced to the stories
Now onto One piece.In One piece we have 3 main powers that humans can posses
1.Df powers
2.Extraordinary physical abilities
3.HakiSanjis power to erupt into flames must therefore fall into one of this category-otherwise it would mean Oda has introduced a completely new power that needs to be proper explained.If not then its an asspull.Same goes for Asura.
I mean think about it if sanji is able to burst through flames with sheer anger whats stopping others from doing it.Apoparently all you have to do is be angry enough right?See what I mean there has to be more to itSanji bursts into flames cause of the anger that the Okamas caused him.If you don't think that explanation is satisfying enough for you, that's your own problem.If you want to make up reasons for why Sanji can burst into flames,then your wrong,just deal with it.
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Asura is just a SKILL, FFS.
About Sanji, the real question is "how the hell did he learn haki?". Luffy needed 1 year and half to learn it with a teacher, while Sanji had no teacher, was most of the time running and fightning okamas and Iva didn't show any haki skill.
Asura isnt just a skill.Zoro grows 2 extra bodies each equipped with blades.That power is very Df like, So Oda has to explain it.Same with Sanji spontaneously bursting into flames.
Luffy needed 1.5 yrs to learn the basics of 3 types of Haki with a teacher.I see no reason why sanji couldnt learn to use 1 type of haki within 2 yrs even without an official teacher.The hell he experienced was definitely enough for someone of his talent to awaken haki.Unlike Luffy he isnt so dumb not to notice he he had the power and would haves ought to controll it.Theres also the strong likelihood their were haki users amongst the Newkama kenpo masters and he could have gotten hints n how to use it whildt fighting them.And its notlike they hated him anything,the okamas largely saw it as game to play with sanji so I see no reason why they wouldnt playfuly explain what haki is and drop some hints.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
@Baou:
Sanji bursts into flames cause of the anger that the Okamas caused him.If you don't think that explanation is satisfying enough for you, that's your own problem.If you want to make up reasons for why Sanji can burst into flames,then your wrong,just deal with it.
Really thats your best counter?You couldnt even address one one my post pionts?good to know.
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Asura is just a SKILL, FFS.
About Sanji, the real question is "how the hell did he learn haki?". Luffy needed 1 year and half to learn it with a teacher, while Sanji had no teacher, was most of the time running and fightning okamas and Iva didn't show any haki skill.
Everyone has Haki, it awakens with intense training. Observation haki is "avoidance", which Sanji spent 2 years doing to the utmost degree humanly possible. Furthermore, if you look at his movements in combat it's similar to aikido which I'd argue is one of the things OH is loosely based on.
Everyone thinks he has armor and Zoro has observance but I think it's the other way around.. and if you think about it.. and know a bit about oriental mysticism, it makes more sense. In classical samurai combat, one's guard is the most valuable trait one can attain. If you were hit with a katana by someone who knows how to use it.. you'd be cut in half, literally. If he was training in Japanese swordsmanship, this would be key. Even if you look at Lion song itself.. it would make more sense if he was creating a barrier around his sword as just knowing something wouldnt allow for it to not cut a leaf and cut steel.
As for the "breath"; Haki seems to be generally based on QiGong (I won't go into it too much but It's an interesting study if anyone wants to check it out) which is divided into three major parts: Breath (chi manipulation)-AH, Posture/Movement- OH, and Intention CH.
The three divisions here also seem to extrapolate into the 3 divisions of the 8 fold path of Buddhism.Edit: Forgot this bit
Again this is just my theories but the fact that it's based on "intense training", would lean that they- for the time being- have that type of haki.. but the dichotomy of Sanji having a natural inclination towards AH and Zoro OH would make an excellent narrative and keep their rivalry fresh. Sanji is full of life/passion.. so he can more inately manipulate the "bio rhythm" of life energies(DJ). Zoro is very deep and stoic so it would make sense he can more inately see and sense things. Since they are naturals at this and would likely awaken this on their own.. it would be a slick move by Kuma to send them to places where they could strengthen their weak points. -
Really thats your best counter?You couldnt even address one one my post pionts?good to know.
Id dunno if you read the manga,but Sanji says that it's the anger the Oakam's cause him that causes him to light himself.Thats all there is.its YOU that limits obtions.Who are you to limit it into three cataegories.Are you writing manga,no your arent.So stop talking like you know everything.It's a comic book.There are hundreds of things that don't make sense.If you want to antagonize over things that 'dont make sense',then it's your problem. It's a fun manga,just go with it.
I don't have to address any of your points.Cause who the fuck cares about any silly ideas your coming up with.Sanji can do all sorts of crazy stuff,nose bleed,light himself on fire.It's his character,and it's a world Oda created.If you want to be a butt-hurt and make-up explanations to fit your opinion,fine.have fun.Coming up with scientific reasons. Pressure…LOL,what....
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@Baou:
Id dunno if you read the manga,but Sanji says that it's the anger the Oakam's cause him that causes him to light himself.Thats all there is.its YOU that limits obtions.Who are you to limit it into three cataegories.Are you writing manga,no your arent.So stop talking like you know everything.It's a comic book.There are hundreds of things that don't make sense.If you want to antagonize over things that 'dont make sense',then it's your problem. It's a fun manga,just go with it.
I don't have to address any of your points.Cause who the fuck cares about any silly ideas your coming up with.Sanji can do all sorts of crazy stuff,nose bleed,light himself on fire.It's his character,and it's a world Oda created.If you want to be a butt-hurt and make-up explanations to fit your opinion,fine.have fun.Coming up with scientific reasons. Pressure…LOL,what....
Its pretty clear that u didnt even read my post to know what I said.Otherwise youll know i didnt mention any silly ideas but used the mangas logic to explain why Sanjis flames need proper explanation.If you cant refute any of the reasons i provided then shut up .I wasnt the one who limited the powers to this 3 categories-Oda did.
Oda has basically given Sanji a Df power-without a Df.That kind of thng has to be explained.Otherwise it raises the question like can anyone burst out flames when their angry?why only sanji?So you mean if Zoro gets angry enough he will butsr out in flames -
Just because it took Luffy a year to learn– master?-- the basics of haki, meaning both observation and armour, doesn't mean someone else cannot unknowingly learn one aspect of haki by other means and/or shorter time frames. Plus, Sanji would have learned it pre-timeskip, and who knows how long Diable Jambe took him to develop? In any case, I personally don't find the suggestion far-fetched when: Sandersonia, who excelled in Observation, was hurt by the same fire that didn't touch Marigold, who excelled in armour. Also, whenever Sanji became fatigued and tried to continually use Diable Jambe (two times now), his leg would start to hurt– though maybe I am remembering the scenes wrong? I mean, how else do we justify him surviving such intense heat so close to his body? The "cook" excuse only holds up so long.
The way I see haki is the same way I see a martial art discipline, you may know some basics of how to fight and land a punch or a kick, but the correct method or how to defend yourself aganist somone who was actually taught the moves is highly unlikely to learn by yourself. I may be wrong tho and maybe someone can master its haki abilities given the time and effort necessary.
I find it much more unlikely that Oda would send Sanji and Zoro in to the New World without them having some level of proficiency with it. Not mastery, per se, but the ability to use it one way or another. I'm of course in no position to say definitively that both know how to use it, but we all know the arguments, and we all know Oda loves to tie things together, so rather than all three of them (Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji) having a teacher, it would be great if one or two of them learned some (or most) of their use on their own, through their own discovery. Seems a bit late in the game for them to be learning such things, now, and would give them significant power boosts if they did. Better if they already know it and just grow their level of proficiency over time.
Agreed, being the top fighters and not knowing how to use haki seems off. They either already know haki but haven't shown it yet, or they will learn shortly somewhere after entering the NW or during their trip into the NW.
Asura isnt just a skill.Zoro grows 2 extra bodies each equipped with blades.That power is very Df like, So Oda has to explain it.Same with Sanji spontaneously bursting into flames.
Ivankov has a similar ability with his Galaxy Wink, yet it has nothing to do with his DF.
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Ivankov has a similar ability with his Galaxy Wink, yet it has nothing to do with his DF.
Invanvoks ability is nothing like Zoros.Ivanvok spins very fast whilst attacking whilst making it seem he has mutiple heads.On the other hand Zoro actually grows extra heads and limbs.This was clearly shown in Sa.Where the Strawhats pionted out that Zoro had turned into 3.
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The way I see haki is the same way I see a martial art discipline, you may know some basics of how to fight and land a punch or a kick, but the correct method or how to defend yourself aganist somone who was actually taught the moves is highly unlikely to learn by yourself.
Was Aisa or Coby taught when they first used it? Was Zoro taught in Alabasta? Martial Arts are created, at some point, and haki isn't exactly a complex martial art that requires specific forms to access. But we can disagree on that for now.
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Was Aisa or Coby taught when they first used it? Was Zoro taught in Alabasta? Martial Arts are created, at some point, and haki isn't exactly a complex martial art that requires specific forms to access. But we can disagree on that for now.
Exactly.Haki is a power that can be awakened with the proper conditioning an talent.Whilst it helps to have a teacher to help you learn how to control this power(when awakened),it doesnt change the fact you can learn to control it yourself and invent your own techs-kinds like learning a Df power
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I was annoyed by Sanji's sudden flame bursts too. It came out of, kinda, nowhere. His legs are ok, but his whole body?
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Was Aisa or Coby taught when they first used it? Was Zoro taught in Alabasta? Martial Arts are created, at some point, and haki isn't exactly a complex martial art that requires specific forms to access. But we can disagree on that for now.
As I said "I may be wrong tho and maybe someone can master its haki abilities given the time and effort necessary." but with the Aisa example this issue pretty much becomes more credible, all that would be left is an explanation of how Sanji learnt it.
Was Zoro taught in Alabasta?
Ok, one thing is to display some (possible kind of) haki in the pressure of the moment just like Luffy did, and another is to continually use it like Aisa did. And I'm still skeptical about Zoro's moment having anything to do with haki, but that's a discussion that will never end.
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Haki can be awekened and learned
I doubt that either of Zoro and Sanji have haki at the moment but its possible, But then again if the story can continue and they are going to be a part of the monster trio they need to get haki at some point, but as I see it the most people can learn haki and they may not had a haki moment back then but they will learn/have learned haki
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@Baou:
Id dunno if you read the manga,but Sanji says that it's the anger the Oakam's cause him that causes him to light himself.Thats all there is.its YOU that limits obtions.Who are you to limit it into three cataegories.Are you writing manga,no your arent.So stop talking like you know everything.It's a comic book.There are hundreds of things that don't make sense.If you want to antagonize over things that 'dont make sense',then it's your problem. It's a fun manga,just go with it.
I don't have to address any of your points.Cause who the fuck cares about any silly ideas your coming up with.Sanji can do all sorts of crazy stuff,nose bleed,light himself on fire.It's his character,and it's a world Oda created.If you want to be a butt-hurt and make-up explanations to fit your opinion,fine.have fun.Coming up with scientific reasons. Pressure…LOL,what....
So you'd be OK if Luffy started using Ace's devil fruit, cause the intense bound between them made them SHARE the devil fruit power?
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Maybe Sanji's usage of Haki will be tied to him evading and fighting the Okamas in various ways? We know it can be awakened through "shock". He became so pissed he set himself on fire unconsciously protecting himself with CoA and uses CoO to dodge, block or hide from them. I'd prefer this to Iva teaching him and prefer it by miles to him not having it which I still find to be a dumb idea and would really hurt his character since he has a huge role as a protector and one of the 3 guys who can handle the toughest opponents and almost any fighting related situation in the crew. He can't hit women, now he can also get shutdown by DF users due to not being able to utilize rudimentary Haki? No thanks.
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@gotta<3OP:
So you'd be OK if Luffy started using Ace's devil fruit, cause the intense bound between them made them SHARE the devil fruit power?
For an instant, rubber and fire seemed to combine into one attack, and it was used to sear a fishman in the gut. :ninja:
…Ah, I mean, of course not! How ridiculous. ahem
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@Myu:
I was annoyed by Sanji's sudden flame bursts too. It came out of, kinda, nowhere. His legs are ok, but his whole body?
Think about that for a sec and really tell me if that makes sense. His legs burn ok. Rest of the body "wtf is that nonsense!!!!?" This line of thinking would make more sense if Sanji still needed to spin to use DJ.
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Maybe Sanji's usage of Haki will be tied to him evading and fighting the Okamas in various ways? We know it can be awakened through "shock". He became so pissed he set himself on fire unconsciously protecting himself with CoA and uses CoO to dodge, block or hide from them. I'd prefer this to Iva teaching him and prefer it by miles to him not having it which I still find to be a dumb idea and would really hurt his character since he has a huge role as a protector and one of the 3 guys who can handle the toughest opponents and almost any fighting related situation in the crew. He can't hit women, now he can also get shutdown by DF users due to not being able to utilize rudimentary Haki? No thanks.
Why woudl you prefer it?
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I'm okay with Sanji lighting his legs on fire, because it's well established how he does it. He spins, and generates friction. Later uses of Diable Jiambe either make generating the friction easier, or just skip over the 'power up' period.
Him just bursting into flames is a bit more… iffy to me. But, I'm one of those guys who is still pissed about Asura not really having an in-story explanation.
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Things that I read hear that do not make sense:
"Iva has no Haki!!!" -> WTF, the highest ranked of the Okama's, who is one of Dragon's generals. How can't she have atleast untrained Haki? Even the Kuja's have Haki, I doubt Dragon wouldn't train his top soldiers to that extent. If they don't have Haki, how could they hope to deal with the world government, were all of the top have it?? We just saw her wink, because that was all she needed. Against Akainu using or not using Haki does not make a great difference :/."EXPLANATIONS, WHO WANTS EXPLANATIONS???? THEY ARE THE DEVIL, KILL IT WITH FIRREEEEE!!!" -> Yey u rock people. No explanations is the sweetest thing on earth. Why did Oda even bother explaining Haki? It totally ruined the series. It should have stayed as a mysterious power.
And I really hope the devil fruits stay as they are. Don't bring logic to my WAN PISSS :<"Leg is aok, but the torso isn't is a stupid argument" -> We know he uses friction to ignite is leg. Thats just realitus exageratius, every one can coop with that. But fucking bursting into flames cause is WRATH is bigger… wtf. One could be angry cause her sweet jesus momma was killed in the head and she was forced to do slave job. No fire.
One could be angry cause her fuckin' Home island got burned. No fire.
One stays 2 years in an island full of homosexuals. THAT IS WRATH ENOUGH, I GIVE YOU THE POWER OF EMITTING FIRE!!!!!(And I'm still waiting for Asura)
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Why woudl you prefer it?
Because it'd be really stupid for Sanji not to have Haki. No more.
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Because it'd be really stupid for Sanji not to have Haki. No more.
Oh so I got it wrong… I thought you would NOT LIKE it if he would have haki. Sorry
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At the very least, it is definite that both Zoro and Sanji know about haki. Their comments when Luffy used his King's Disposition Haki proves that.
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True that but people somehow don't see it… Even more there were the only one who wasn't suprised by Luffy using it to this level. Even Jinbei was suprised... I have no doubts they have it and the, they need a trainer, is a very weak argument
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@ultimateclima:
At the very least, it is definite that both Zoro and Sanji know about haki. Their comments when Luffy used his King's Disposition Haki proves that.
It proves that they suspected Luffy has it. It doesn't prove if they themselves have it. It's implied that they've done some work toward achieving a similar level of skill, with or without the use of Haki.
Just being a bit picky about the context of the statements.
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It proves that they suspected Luffy has it. It doesn't prove if they themselves have it. It's implied that they've done some work toward achieving a similar level of skill, with or without the use of Haki.
Just being a bit picky about the context of the statements.
That's why I said they know about haki about instead of that they have haki.
More importantly, it shows that they understand what haki is. So there won't be some scene in the future where Zoro and Sanji will "learn" about haki since they already know it, which is different then whether or not they can use haki.
Personally I do believe Zoro has been showing signs of using haki in part 1 and Diable Jamble might as well be a form of haki, but that's just assumptions on my part without definitive proof. Doesn't bother me either way though.
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Sanji identified Luffy's kings haki(the rarest) by name.
He, and probably Zoro must know a lot more than what people are giving them credit for.
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@gotta<3OP:
Things that I read hear that do not make sense:
"Iva has no Haki!!!" -> WTF, the highest ranked of the Okama's, who is one of Dragon's generals. How can't she have atleast untrained Haki? Even the Kuja's have Haki, I doubt Dragon wouldn't train his top soldiers to that extent. If they don't have Haki, how could they hope to deal with the world government, were all of the top have it?? We just saw her wink, because that was all she needed. Against Akainu using or not using Haki does not make a great difference :/.Are you aware that his wink is not haki? even Oda stated that in the SBS. I think it was #54.
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Key point, folks: Every person has potential for Haki; most just don't know how to use it, even those who do know about it. It matters not how skilled in battle someone is.
Here's a thought, how about a different use of ki potential, not just the ha-variety? Or is that going too far out of bounds [of this thread]? :P
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It seems there's the general misconception that almost every single strong fighter has haki.
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If by that you mean every really really strong fighter, I don't think it's a misconception at all. I rather think it's a common misconception around here that "you don't need" Haki to go to the real high peaks. I think it's very obvious that you do and all the fighters up there will have it, if there's an exception (maybe Doflamingo) there will be a good reason for it.
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It seems there's the general misconception that almost every single strong fighter has haki.
Has? probably. Uses? probably not.
If you can resist Haki attacks, I think you have Haki. When Rayleigh used CoC on Kid and Law's crew, they didn't faint, and they did feel it because one of Law's crew almost fainted. What the Kuja tribe pride in is not in having Haki, but in being able to use it. However, having Haki doesn't mean you can resist all CoC, as shown with Luffy using CoC in Amazon Lily. Although he couldn't control it, it was strong enough to knock out many Kuja warriors.
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Has? probably. Uses? probably not.
If you can resist Haki attacks, I think you have Haki. When Rayleigh used CoC on Kid and Law's crew, they didn't faint, and they did feel it because one of Law's crew almost fainted. What the Kuja tribe pride in is not in having Haki, but in being able to use it. However, having Haki doesn't mean you can resist all CoC, as shown with Luffy using CoC in Amazon Lily. Although he couldn't control it, it was strong enough to knock out many Kuja warriors.
I see what you're trying to say (I think)
You should add a scale to Haki level. Blackbeard does that… and without a scale, reading this could be painful.
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If by that you mean every really really strong fighter, I don't think it's a misconception at all. I rather think it's a common misconception around here that "you don't need" Haki to go to the real high peaks. I think it's very obvious that you do and all the fighters up there will have it, if there's an exception (maybe Doflamingo) there will be a good reason for it.
And who are those "really really strong fighters"? many belive Iva has haki, yet he hasn't shown anything but theorical knowledge of it for example.
Has? probably. Uses? probably not.
If you can resist Haki attacks, I think you have Haki. When Rayleigh used CoC on Kid and Law's crew, they didn't faint, and they did feel it because one of Law's crew almost fainted. What the Kuja tribe pride in is not in having Haki, but in being able to use it. However, having Haki doesn't mean you can resist all CoC, as shown with Luffy using CoC in Amazon Lily. Although he couldn't control it, it was strong enough to knock out many Kuja warriors.
The only thing you need to resist a blast of CoC is to have a very strong will, a trait found in the supernova who where present.
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Basically those one would think of as "top tier" or near to it. Though I don't know how much that tells you. To give an example I don't think we're going to see guys around the strength of say, Jozu or Vista, who can't use Haki unless they are made very clear to be exceptions and we can easily understand why. If we're talking Admiral etc. level I don't think there's one person who isn't a highly skilled Haki user.
At (my perception of) Ivankov's level of strength I would not automatically they can use Haki. Jimbei is an example of a guy on that level who I do not think uses Haki, although there's still the chance that he does. At the same time I believe it would be more common than not. I do think that Iva in particular might have it, though, because we saw him attempting to attack the poison man with his fists.
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CoA is probably how Akainu was able to regenerate despite being fatally struck by two Haki users.
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Haki can make people regenerate themselves?
Okay, sure…
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Haki can make people regenerate themselves?
Okay, sure…
By regenerate, I was referring to logia regeneration. I thought that was obvious. Obviously not…........
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….OR it was because while the attack hurt him, they didn't fatally wound him, and he got up like a man and continued to fight.
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He separated into magma when he was struck and I'm not searching for the page, I lack dedication.