Raising the bounty from attacking the Tenryuubito would be a good cover up for defeating Moria. Yet I don't see it going very high up if it does. I just hope Sanji and Brook get updated Bounty photos.
Bounty Increasing After Tenryuubito's Incident?
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They will raise bounty but not for Tenryuubito (most wanted for hiting noble… LOL) probably after Ace rescu they need new bounty for Brook, sanji usop and choper. Lufy new bounty at last 500 mln beri.
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Well, maybe we get to know Silvers bounty in a while. Then we have a new marker. I hope there will be a bounty raise, but i don't see it just coming from beating some stupid Tenryuubitos. There will be a very big incident coming in a few chapters, i can feel it^^
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Destroying Mariejoa? Perhaps.
Whoa! Attacking Mariejoa? that means they're going to face the Gorousei. that would be really cool! I wonder if they're that strong though. heh. but going there also means that they'll be facing Sengoku (plus pwngoat. haha!). if by doing that and they manage to at least inflict some damage, their bounty will be skyrocket!
but wait, I'm a bit confuse here. is Mariejoa the same as Marine HQ? because IIRC one can only go to Marine HQ through the Gate Of JusticeI doubt Luffy's bounty will rise after the incident with the Tenryuubito. if we look back, all of SH gets bounties after a big incident, in which all of them took part in. like in Alabasta & EL for example. so if the only thing Luffy did was punching a Tenryuubito, then I doubt his bounty will be raised. okay, might be a bad argument, but if you look it that way, it do make sense a bit
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On the contrary! He did much more.
Look here: (Hint: Spandam getting his face blown off)
Follow the next few pages and you will see why there is more than one reason he has a bounty. Furthermore, I really do think it would be quite a good gag to pull for Oda to give Ussop a separate bounty from Sogeking. (Despite the fact it is said that the entire crew has a bounty ~~ and that Ussop is not always in Sogeking's persona)
edit: LMAO!! I never noticed that he was singing on this page!
But nothing else(even attacking Spandam) other than shooting down the flag would have caused a bounty of $30,000,000.
Look at it this way, even though way back during Arlong Park when Nezumi called in about Luffy it wasn't because of his run-in with the Marine. It was because of his victories over Buggy, Krieg and Arlong that caused his initial bounty. While Luffy's was a matter of strength and Usopp's was not; they're both similar since attacking whatever ranking official wasn't the reason the bounty was given.
As I said before, shooting down some Marines isn't going to net you a bounty. But being the one who personally shoots down the very symbol of the entire World Government which is basically declaring war against the entire world is an act worthy of receiving one. Both Luffy punching Charlos and Usopp inadvertently attacking Roswald are similar in this sense which is why I think both with get a rise in bounty(if they recognize Usopp as Sogeking otherwise they'll issue him a new one) for attacking the Nobles.
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next bounty increase for Luffy: 900 million to 1 billion
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I feel 1 billion is too much, but I guess it depends on what he does in the future
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as someone stated it here - first, we have to know other bounties, some really HIGH bounties, like WB or Shanks, couse the highest right now we know is Doflamingo (340 mln) so for Luffy being the pirate with highest bounty and for us readers knowing only him with so high bounty is almost impossible to happen… so first we will get some major guys with their bounties introduced. than we can talk about bounties for SH, which I doubt will get higher.
they may get higher but only AFTER meeting an Admiral and kicking his ass or just escaping him to Fishem Island.
there is also one point which nobody mentioned... it is very likely (couse where else can he be?) that we've got one more Schickibukai (spelling?) in nearby - Jimbei. so there is IMO an option that SH will face him on Fishem Island and after that get their bounties raised. -
Maybe the introduction of Silvers was Oda's way of giving us a really high bounty number for someone who is not say (Whitebeard, Shanks, Mihawk) Thus allowing him to raise the Sh's bounties to higher numbers yet still leaving their bounites/former bounty a mystery.
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@Kidany:
But nothing else(even attacking Spandam) other than shooting down the flag would have caused a bounty of $30,000,000.
You forget how big of a part Spandam's ego plays in that calculation. See it from his perspective, the one who stopped him when he was one step before becoming a worlwide acknowledged hero (in his opinion) was Sogeking. Furthermore he stopped a huge number of Marines that came to help, while being perfectly out of their range. He might not have combat power but as a sniper he is a leathal opponent and certainly an asset in the Strawhats group. The flag burning was only the insulting part, crushing Spandams ego is more crucial since it can be expected that Spandam comes after his father who exaggerated before Sengoku about the danger Nico Robin impersonates.
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And about the Tenryuubito thing, the chances are almost zero that Luffy will get a new one. This incident is nothing that shows that the Strawhats have become more dangerous then they already are. Crushing the strongest pirate in East Blue, defeating a Shichibukai and successfully invading the front door of the WG are all milestones in the Strawhats development. Attacking a weakling is nothing that even comes close to that league.
Luffy simply punched a Tenryuubito. It's not like the Gorosei will be "oh shit, he's much more dangerous then the Enies Lobby incident made us think". Besides, as I said before, why raise the bounty if he's already an Admirals prey? That's obsolete.
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this is a direct threat violation of the Strawhats. They basically walked into the WG house and punched their wife.
Sure she is a weakling and everything, but it just increses the governments want for them Dead or Alive. I mean just as Roswald said here:
Rosward: Do you have any idea what will happen to you if you rise against us… / ...against the descendants of the Creator of this world...?! // ?!!
The burning of the flag may be the reason Luffy's bounty is so high. Not the fact he beat Lucci. Sure Lucci was a strong fighter, but Luffy declared War by burning the flag.
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You forget how big of a part Spandam's ego plays in that calculation. See it from his perspective, the one who stopped him when he was one step before becoming a worlwide acknowledged hero (in his opinion) was Sogeking. Furthermore he stopped a huge number of Marines that came to help, while being perfectly out of their range. He might not have combat power but as a sniper he is a leathal opponent and certainly an asset in the Strawhats group. The flag burning was only the insulting part, crushing Spandams ego is more crucial since it can be expected that Spandam comes after his father who exaggerated before Sengoku about the danger Nico Robin impersonates.
I'm not questioning Usopp's strength, I actually think he's superhuman compared to regular folk but what Usopp did to earn his bounty as Sogeking isn't a matter of strength as I've mentioned before. It's like you say, an insult towards the World Government and an act of war against the world. Also, it isn't up to Spandam whether someone gets a bounty or not. Personal matters and ego aside, it's ultimately up to I'm assuming the Five Elder Stars who gets a bounty and how much.
Using Nezumi's situation as an example again, when he called in about Luffy that's when it was first given out right? But soon after you see that the Marines already know about his fights against Buggy, Krieg and Arlong by that point. So Nezumi calling it in gave them a legitimate reason to give Luffy a bounty, but by no means was it the reason it was worth $30,000,000.
And about the Tenryuubito thing, the chances are almost zero that Luffy will get a new one. This incident is nothing that shows that the Strawhats have become more dangerous then they already are. Crushing the strongest pirate in East Blue, defeating a Shichibukai and successfully invading the front door of the WG are all milestones in the Strawhats development. Attacking a weakling is nothing that even comes close to that league.
Luffy simply punched a Tenryuubito. It's not like the Gorosei will be "oh shit, he's much more dangerous then the Enies Lobby incident made us think". Besides, as I said before, why raise the bounty if he's already an Admirals prey? That's obsolete.
Because we know as readers that the Strawhats will get away. As I've mentioned before, the World Nobles are like symbols to the World Government. Since attacking one gets an Admiral sent after you and you manage to escape don't you think that's like a slap in the face towards the entire organization? This wasn't some private matter either, many people saw this so you know it will become public knowledge. I consider attacking a World Noble is indeed a milestone considering who these people are and how they're regarded in the first place.
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this is a direct threat violation of the Strawhats. They basically walked into the WG house and punched their wife.
I understand where you're comming from. But what I'm saying is that this isn't that much of an surprising move from somebody who destroyed the Front Door of the World Government and declared WG on the same. It is a crime of absolutely same nature, while each bounty increase comes with a new aspect of the Strawhats crimes.
Sure she is a weakling and everything, but it just increses the governments want for them Dead or Alive. I mean just as Roswald said here:
Rosward: Do you have any idea what will happen to you if you rise against us… / ...against the descendants of the Creator of this world...?! // ?!!
Yeah, and what will happen is that an Admiral will be sent. That's the entire point. It's a zero tolarance policy to protect spoiled brats. Jerks like Roswald must insist that the strongest force of the military works on bringing the criminal to justice.Roswald most likely won't be satisfied if Luffy's bounty increases, especially if he finds out that he has been roaming free while having three different bounties already. That's the reasons why Admirals need to act as executioners here.
But anyways I think I explained my point well enough and can let it be. This is a free discussion forum at all so it's about opinion. And my opinion is that never in a million years will this incident increase Luffy's bounty. If I'm wrong I'll be the first one to admit it.^^
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My thoughts on this topic is that the straw hats will fight off the other nine super nova pirates with bounties on their heads and have an admiral chase after them with the help of Garp.
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Don't forget that all the people that fainted ( by Rayleigh ) , to them this is gonna be Strawhats fault .
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to them this is gonna be Strawhats fault .
Why? the guards were probably quite aware that the prisoners that freed themselves were dangerous… I mean they did on their own manage to bust out.
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yea but who they gonna blame. Some old man they don't know, or the easy scape goat in the Strawhats.
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why do we need to know who they are going to blame? It's not really that big in comparisment to any of the other things the strawhats will do on the island. they were just a few measly guards. all the bidders had already fled.
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Ok so if all the bidders had already left. Then who do you think is running around town screaming about some pirates that attacked the Tenryuubito?
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wait what are we suggesting the strawhats get the blame for? attacking the auction or making people faint?
I thought we where talking about making the guards faint??
Ofcourse they are going to take the blame for attacking the auction and nobles.
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@Kidany:
But nothing else (even attacking Spandam) other than shooting down the flag would have caused a bounty of $30,000,000.
I personally disagree. First off Spandam is extremely prideful (proclaims he's even a hero etc. etc.), as mentioned by Ivotas, and furthermore the CP9 and Spandam are the only people present when the flag is burned ~~ Spandam is also stopped single handedly by the same person as well as his other guys getting hit multiple times when they try to defend themselves from their acclaimed "incredible sniper" enemy.
I think we have to assume it is Spandam who reports this, that he is not dead, and that when he reported the actions of Sogeking that he most likely did not leave out his incredibly dangerous sniping ability. But, this is just my opinion ~~ I don't think it really matters.
I must also disagree the personally taking action and attacking a Tenryuubito is different than falling on one by accident. But I would still find it hilarious if Ussop received a bounty (or increase) simply because he accidentally fell on one (somewhat a sort of revenge for the Tenryuubito for the insult)
You forget how big of a part Spandam's ego plays in that calculation. […] This incident is nothing that shows that the Strawhats have become more dangerous then they already are. […] Luffy simply punched a Tenryuubito. It's not like the Gorosei will be "oh shit, he's much more dangerous then the Enies Lobby incident made us think".
I agree with the point on Spandam ~~ I expected the pages to speak for themselves, especially them freaking out about how he is shooting against the wind and still 100% accurate.
As for the bounty's though. I would assume a bounty increase would take place AFTER they have successfully escaped from an Admiral (if one comes), and that would be reason enough (Doing something to warrant an Admiral call, then escaping that). Furthermore, I repeat what I said earlier about it being an excuse to increase their bounty since they couldn't about the Moria issue.
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wait what are we suggesting the strawhats get the blame for? attacking the auction or making people faint?
I thought we where talking about making the guards faint??
Ofcourse they are going to take the blame for attacking the auction and nobles.
Well the Strawhats will get blamed for everything I'm sure. Sure the WG and Garp will know that the Strawhats didn't knock em all out with the aura thing. But they did slice up enough and what not to be able to blame it on them. Just like the SH's didn't get any credit for Arabasta, the gov writes what it wants. Its not like the SH's couldn't have knocked them all out. Would have just taken longer, so in end same result
Don't think it looks good to have Silvers just moseing aroudn right next to WG and them not doing anything, catching him ect. And do the gaurds really know silvers did it. They just kind of start fainting. They will wake up confused I'm sure.
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Even if the WG doesn't wan't to increase the bounty for some reason. i'm preety sure the **Tenryuubito themselfs will be more than eager to place a separate bounty on the Strawhats.
Afterall they would pay 500 million for a mermaid. Imagine what they would give for the heads of those that insulted them so violently.
The only reason the WG would increase the bounty is if they didn't have a clue where the Strawhats where. The fact that there is the Ace thing happening right now gives a another twist to the whole story. I'm really looking forward to what Oda is going to think next.**
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They'll probably just pin the blame on Rayleigh.
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[…] Tenryuubito themselfs will be more than eager to place a separate bounty on the Strawhats. […] Afterall they would pay 500 million for a mermaid.
Camie joins the crew and gets a 500mil bounty!??!?!? @Mister_Anbu:
They'll probably just pin the blame on Rayleigh.
I get the feeling the govt. (Garp) wants to keep information regarding Rayleigh on the lowdown.
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Camie joins the crew and gets a 500mil bounty!??!?!?
I get the feeling the govt. (Garp) wants to keep information regarding Rayleigh on the lowdown.
Actually i hadn't realised that.
Camie's happy face would have a 500 million bounty under it with no real reason. -
Actually i hadn't realised that.
hehehe, don't take the the wrong way though, I totally agree with your post that the Tenryuu would probably demand a bounty increase. But I just couldn't resist the connections =)
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Okay,cause I'm bored. ;o
My guesses for their bounties after this whole arc thing…
Luffy - 500 million --- Defeated Doflamingo,punch a tenrburyito and some other stuffs we shall know later...
Roronoa Zoro - 270 million - Defeated some of the rookies(?)Powerful enemies?
Usopp --- 150 million (For hitting Roswald,which according to the crowd is more of a higher ranked tenyurbito than the one Luffy punch)
Sanji --- 149 million (Pissed Usopp have higher bounty than him)
Brook --- 100 million (Revealed that the 33 million bounty he had aeons ago when inflated is equal to almost 100 million. x--x)
Nico Robin --- 90 million
Franky --- 88 million
Nami --- 50 million
Chopper --- 40 million...(I hope x__x)
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Brook –- 100 million (Revealed that the 33 million bounty he had aeons ago when inflated is equal to almost 100 million. x--x)
I wonder if there is inflation in the One Piece world, I kind of like the logic behind it though.
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I personally disagree. First off Spandam is extremely prideful (proclaims he's even a hero etc. etc.), as mentioned by Ivotas, and furthermore the CP9 and Spandam are the only people present when the flag is burned ~~ Spandam is also stopped single handedly by the same person as well as his other guys getting hit multiple times when they try to defend themselves from their acclaimed "incredible sniper" enemy.
I think we have to assume it is Spandam who reports this, that he is not dead, and that when he reported the actions of Sogeking that he most likely did not leave out his incredibly dangerous sniping ability. But, this is just my opinion ~~ I don't think it really matters.
As I stated, pride doesn't give the authority on issuing bounties, especially when the person in question really has no say on how much or what it's being issued for. If anyone would get the most hate out of Spandam that would cause a bounty it'd be Franky hands down and maybe Robin.
Also it wasn't just Spandam and the CP9 who saw it, all the marines and government agents saw the flag being burned.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/398/13/I must also disagree the personally taking action and attacking a Tenryuubito is different than falling on one by accident. But I would still find it hilarious if Ussop received a bounty (or increase) simply because he accidentally fell on one (somewhat a sort of revenge for the Tenryuubito for the insult)
I never said it was different…unless this isn't directed towards me. If that's the case then I wonder where you got this notion. All I ever mentioned was that Usopp inadvertently hurt Roswald, which is what happened.
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@Kidany:
As I stated, pride doesn't give the authority on issuing bounties, especially when the person in question really has no say on how much or what it's being issued for. If anyone would get the most hate out of Spandam that would cause a bounty it'd be Franky hands down and maybe Robin.
Oh but it does. This is a government where many things don't appear to be kosher, so such a thing shouldn't be that much of a concern. And it was really Sogeking who hindered him on the glorious moment he spoke so much about.
Furthermore the sniping skills really play a big part. Think about any war movie you want and you'll have the sniper component in there where one or two of them strenghten the entire troup. Same goes for the opponent. If they have a good sniper, the entire squad is in series danger. And Spandam just witnessed what Sogeking could do on the bridge. So he is dangerous because he adds a component to the Strawhats that's missing without him.
@Kidany:
Also it wasn't just Spandam and the CP9 who saw it, all the marines and government agents saw the flag being burned.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/398/13/They've only seen the burning flag. From their position there's no chance that they could have seen any of the Strawhats on the roof let alone being able to tell who fired the shot. Also I doubt that anyone of the random soldiers/agents reported before the Gorosei or Sengoku.
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Personally I still belive Usopp holding out (together with the others) against the commanders and captains is enough to warrent a bounty
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Yeah, forgot about that one. That's most definitely also played a role.
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I have always though that Sanji doesn't deserve his bounty at all.
Tell me exactly what he did to deserve it? Anyone? He should be as low as Chopper
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Luffy's bounty will go up whoever thinks other wise is mistaken.
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I have always though that Sanji doesn't deserve his bounty at all.
Tell me exactly what he did to deserve it? Anyone? He should be as low as Chopper
He squashed one of the top three CP9ers. He was never in danger of losing that fight, so he can be considered a big threat. Not to mention the ruckuss he caused on Puffing-Tom.
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Think logically people Kid's bounty gets raised for attacking civilians
So you really don't think luffy bounty will get raised for attack nobles? honestly you people…...
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Oh but it does. This is a government where many things don't appear to be kosher, so such a thing shouldn't be that much of a concern. And it was really Sogeking who hindered him on the glorious moment he spoke so much about.
Furthermore the sniping skills really play a big part. Think about any war movie you want and you'll have the sniper component in there where one or two of them strenghten the entire troup. Same goes for the opponent. If they have a good sniper, the entire squad is in series danger. And Spandam just witnessed what Sogeking could do on the bridge. So he is dangerous because he adds a component to the Strawhats that's missing without him.
I get the feeling you think I'm disregarding anything else Usopp did. Just to make it clear I'm not ignoring anything else. I just think that without shooting the World Government flag his bounty would've probably been as high as Nami's since I'm sure fighting off the captains played a part in everyone's except Luffy, Sanji, Chopper and Robin. Maybe I should have made it clearer in my earlier posts.
They've only seen the burning flag. From their position there's no chance that they could have seen any of the Strawhats on the roof let alone being able to tell who fired the shot. Also I doubt that anyone of the random soldiers/agents reported before the Gorosei or Sengoku.
Um…okay? It still likely got reported by Spandam. I don't really get the point you're making with this. Do you mind elaborating?
I have always though that Sanji doesn't deserve his bounty at all.
Tell me exactly what he did to deserve it? Anyone? He should be as low as Chopper
Sanji's actions in the Puffing Tom in taking out Jerry and Wanze among the other stuff he did probably had a lot to do with it.
EDIT: Actually, I don't think any of the Strawhats got specific bounties or raises in their bounty due to the CP9 defeats except Luffy. Since no one was really there to witness them except Luffy's obviously so they just considered the downfall of CP9 as a whole instead of individual values. Plus the fact that in the current coverstory the CP9 never went back to the authorities so there goes the chances of them telling.
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@Kidany:
I get the feeling you think I'm disregarding anything else Usopp did. Just to make it clear I'm not ignoring anything else. I just think that without shooting the World Government flag his bounty would've probably been as high as Nami's since I'm sure fighting off the captains played a part in everyone's except Luffy, Sanji, Chopper and Robin. Maybe I should have made it clearer in my earlier posts.
I see. I really took it as if you were disregarding anything else besides the flag burning incident. Why are we having this discussion then?^^
Um…okay? It still likely got reported by Spandam. I don't really get the point you're making with this. Do you mind elaborating?
Huh, I was merely responding to your statement, which I understood as you saying that the all the random soldier/agents saw who exactly did it.
Actually, I don't think any of the Strawhats got specific bounties or raises in their bounty due to the CP9 defeats except Luffy. Since no one was really there to witness them except Luffy's obviously. Plus the fact that in the current coverstory the CP9 never went back to the authorities so there goes the chances of them telling.
That doesn't really matter. Fact is that not only Rucchi but also all of CP9 was said to be the strongest in all history of that group. Therefore it's less then unlikely that this incident played no role on determing the new bounties.
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I see. I really took it as if you were disregarding anything else besides the flag burning incident. Why are we having this discussion then?^^
I don't know…:wassat:
Huh, I was merely responding to your statement, which I understood as you saying that the all the random soldier/agents saw who exactly did it.
I was just responding to brennen's with that one. When he stated that no one saw the flag being burned.
That doesn't really matter. Fact is that not only Rucchi but also all of CP9 was said to be the strongest in all history of that group. Therefore it's less then unlikely that this incident played no role on determing the new bounties.
I meant that they didn't consider it as individual values but as a whole thing. Instead of something like:
"oh this guy beat Kaku he's way stronger than Kumadori! Let's make this guy have a higher bounty!"
So I agree with you, I actually edited that part of my post but I guess you quoted me before I finished.
Anyway I'm done here since this is all cleared up, or at least I hope it is.
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@MonkeyDMalcolm:
Think logically people Kid's bounty gets raised for attacking civilians
So you really don't think luffy bounty will get raised for attack nobles? honestly you people…...
Then again, none of their bounties got raised after thriller bark, now did they?
True, there were no witnesses, but also because it was an embarrassment to the WG.
It really all depends if the WG can turn the story into their favor, otherwise, the existence of it is denied.
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@Kidany:
As I stated, pride doesn't give the authority on issuing bounties, especially when the person in question really has no say on how much or what it's being issued for.
I don't think this is fact, just opinion right? And CP9 is pretty high standing as I see it, so I would think his opinion mattered. I mean again, right here weasel-man he seems to have a vendetta on Luffy. But ~~ whatever.@Kidany:
Also it wasn't just Spandam and the CP9 who saw it, all the marines and government agents saw the flag being burned.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/398/13/Good point, though I still agree with Ivotas that it doesn't indicate SOMEONE, but rather the Crew that is crazy. Specially considering it was Luffy's order.
@Kidany:I never said it was different…unless this isn't directed towards me. If that's the case then I wonder where you got this notion. All I ever mentioned was that Usopp inadvertently hurt Roswald, which is what happened.
I got that from here:
@Kidany:[…] both Luffy punching Charlos and Usopp inadvertently attacking Roswald are similar in this sense which is why I think both with get a rise in bounty(if they recognize Usopp as Sogeking otherwise they'll issue him a new one) for attacking the Nobles.
I wasn't saying you said they were different ~~ rather the opposite, that you said they were inadvertently the same ~~ to which I disagreed stating I believe they were different in degrees of seriousness. Nevertheless I agree a bounty should (could) be given for both accounts, I just think Luffy's would be much more serious, and much more likely.
(I admit I phrased my initial statement poorly and didn't check my words/spelling either very well. Likely what is causing this slight misunderstanding.)
edit: LOL!! Ok, just disregard my entire post. We all just misunderstood each other. I agree burning the flag played a large part. I thought you were disregarding the other stuff. And Ivotas was just saying the whole 'other people didnt know Ussop burned the flag' because he was supporting that Spandam had to have reported it, which means he would have also reported the other attacks (sniping).
LOL, im done. (This post took me like 30 minutes because I had to setup someones email on their Blackberry). This is all cleared up, lets be friends. :wub: :wub: :wub:
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Sorry late on reply for my initial question about Sanji's bounty. Was heading home from work
But he doesn't deserve it at all. Just like said earlier. The CP9 obviously didn't get to make a report or anything. So it is all uknown who beat who and just considered a team effort.
Now when they all get to the bridge Sanji dissapears while the rest except exausted Chopper fight the Captain commanders. Now when bounties come out, they give the rest roughly 25-40 million bounty, whom were shown fighting off the guys easy. Yet they give Sanji 77 million, who was not there at all.
They give Chopper 50 beli cause they assume he isn't a fighter cause they never see him fight. Now lets assume they would obviously assume Sanji fighter cause he is human. Why is he thrown so much higher than Nami/Sogeking/Franky? The train was weaklings. You can't tell me that Wanze and that boxer guy are worth 77 million.
So I believe Sanji shoudl be like the other around 40 million or so. I think Oda just gave us 77 million just cause he is stronger than the others. But the facts don't add up.
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I think that with 500 chapters people should have learned that Oda doesn't increase the bounty each new arc, but when some outrageous things happen. And while punching one of the Tenryuubito is a great insult it's not an outrageous thing that sets the world on fire.
Futhermore, the direct response to such an incident is that an Admiral makes hunt on you. Pretty useless to increase the bounty for somebody who just became the prey of the greatest power of the World Government. Lacks any sense.
The next bounty raise will most likely be when the Strawhat crew should defeat a Yonkoh crew in the New World. This would be the logic next growth. And not punching a crybaby in the face.
Thank you Ivotas. This makes the most sense to me, and i am gonan stick with this as my idea untill porven otherwise. Also believing this means that i can know what will happen to some extent, at least in my own prediction. If the admirals comes then no bounty raise. If they dont come then the bounty will defently raise. Thats my idea.
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Maybe they realized his non combat related efforts… That he got onboard the seatrain in the first place (and left that bigass message to nami), that it was most likely him that closed the gates, perhaps they know of his connection to Zeff redleg and make assumptions. Maybe they based it on previous achivements but the crew wasn't big enough of a threat overall to warrent more then 2 bounties at the time.
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Sorry late on reply for my initial question about Sanji's bounty. Was heading home from work
But he doesn't deserve it at all. Just like said earlier. The CP9 obviously didn't get to make a report or anything. So it is all uknown who beat who and just considered a team effort.
Now when they all get to the bridge Sanji dissapears while the rest except exausted Chopper fight the Captain commanders. Now when bounties come out, they give the rest roughly 25-40 million bounty, whom were shown fighting off the guys easy. Yet they give Sanji 77 million, who was not there at all.
They give Chopper 50 beli cause they assume he isn't a fighter cause they never see him fight. Now lets assume they would obviously assume Sanji fighter cause he is human. Why is he thrown so much higher than Nami/Sogeking/Franky? The train was weaklings. You can't tell me that Wanze and that boxer guy are worth 77 million.
So I believe Sanji shoudl be like the other around 40 million or so. I think Oda just gave us 77 million just cause he is stronger than the others. But the facts don't add up.
Well, another reason why the bounties are so messed up is because of 2 reasons
1. He was trying to make it so when brook came along, their combined bounties would come out to a round number, which is why chopper's is so low
and 2. He needed to give a high enough bounty for big time bounty hunters to go out trying to catch Duval. I mean your not going to go so close to the new world just for a 30 mil bounty. Duval needed to be chased relentlessly.
Also, this is just speculation, but the WG may have possibly been keeping tabs on the strawhats, and it's obvious just by watching them that Sanji is strong.
Or it may be because the photo taker thought he was a demon 'cause he couldn't take his photo. :P
However, the Marines didn't see the majority of the fighting for any of them.
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he was trying to make it so when brook came along, their combined bounties would come out to a round number
Nahh, since he could give anyone any number, and just make Brook's even out with those numbers. It's not like Brooks had to be set in stone yet.
@slayerlx:Or it may be because the photo taker thought he was a demon 'cause he couldn't take his photo.
Unfortunately, it was already stated that was because he had the lens cap on.
But he doesn't deserve it at all. Just like said earlier. The CP9 obviously didn't get to make a report or anything. So it is all uknown who beat who and just considered a team effort.
Well, Spandam knows they were defeated (even though he is in denial at first thinking the keys were stolen). Gorlom has a point about the train, the cunning, the plans etc., and though Wanzy might not warrant 77mil to us ~~ that doesn't make it so. Furthermore, we don't know that noone saw the fights. For all we know, someone did….and someone reported it right? I mean do we really need every fight to have a spectator drawn in to make it fact to us? It is a comic after all….
They give Chopper 50 beli cause they assume he isn't a fighter cause they never see him fight.
Guilty by association. They gave him a bounty for being a part of the act ~~ thinking he was their pet.
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Unfortunately, it was already stated that was because he had the lens cap on.
It was a number of reasons apearantly. it was in some extra material that flaming attachan (sp?) tried numerous times to capture it.
The lense cap was only the one that resulted in a black image iirc.
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Unfortunately, it was already stated that was because he had the lens cap on.
Yes, I know, that was a joke :getlost:
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Yes, I know, that was a joke :getlost:
I figured as much, which was why I added the unfortunately part ~~ as it would be humorous. =)
@__Gorlom__: I wasn't aware. Interesting.