i was in a forum thread and i saw something that said "The will of the D" what is that if it is anything
The Official "D" Discussion
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Originally posted by Cosmic kid@May 18 2005, 06:30 PM
i was in a forum thread and i saw something that said "The will of the D" what is that if it is anything
[snapback]51351[/snapback]Pirates who have the D. last name possess great determination and strength. Opposing them is useless, more or less, because their desire to accomplish their goals is too strong. So if a person is named _____ D. _____, it's best to just go ahead and get out of their way.
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Interesting way of putting it.
i was in a forum thread and i saw something that said "The will of the D"
Was it…..this forum?
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Has the Will of V.
I think that spawned a few threads, some of which were locked (same topic).
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It's a middle name. Monkey Dumbass Luffy. Gol Dumbass Roger.
See??
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Actually, I remember hearing that "D" is the last name. Which would make sense, seeing as how noone passes down a middle name. So I think it's Luffy Monkey D.
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Where did you hear that? Eiichiro Oda wrote it Monkey D. Luffy on his wanted poster…. And My middle name has been passed down for generations.... not that uncommon.
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Yeah, but your last name's also passed down, ain't it?
Oda said that the last names are placed Japanese style, so in English, it would actually be Zoro Roronoa, and such.
I figure it'd make more sense for D to be his last initial. It wouldn't really be the will of D if they were just people with a common middle name, instead of a common bloodline.
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i still don't understand how you got the D at the end…
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Eh, if I lived in a country with reverse name order, I'd put my first name at the very end, since it's personal.
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I kinda get it now. But Japanese people don't have Middle Names do they? So is this just a coincedence… ah fook it, I'm confused..
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First off this is my first post here and i think this forums great
On to the topic…i read a few topics and everyone seems confused by the "d" in the manga...and i think the answers kinda obvious...isnt it the family name of Luffy? i mean his brother has d. in his name too and so does gold roger....which means theyre related
also i have a vague suspicion that gold rogers might be luffys grandpa since he got all nervous when aokiji mentioned that he "dealt" with luffys grandpa before...oda never went bak to the subject so i guess hell deal with it later...
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isnt it the family name of Luffy?
That's what I saying saying….
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As we all know, Oda is unconventional. This is just another quirk. And Right Click, stop trying to force your opinion so much. It doesn't work, and just makes you look like a jerk. (I'm not saying that you're a jerk, but that it makes you LOOK like one.)
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We don't have middle names, but we don't have Katakana names, either. Well, not much. So there, that's your answer. It is One Piece world, not Japan.
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Somebody said something in the msn forum once that made me read up on Blackbeard. I think his original name was Edward Drummond but he changed it to Edward Teach or Edward D. Teach when he became a pirate. So maybe the D is their real surname and "Luffy", "Ace", etc are just made up pirate names to conceal their true ancestry omg omg
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Originally posted by oceanizer@May 20 2005, 04:33 AM
… It is One Piece world, not Japan.
[snapback]52151[/snapback]Exactly what I wanted to say. I don´t know how people can except the fact that in the One Piece world there are fruits that make people seperate themselves, grow body parts wherever they want etc. but at the same instant they are unwilling to accept that the first, middle and last name order functions totally different then we know it in our world. It´s just paradox!
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Be funny is D stands for DON.
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my donuts is on D being DREAM or DESTINY. of course, these have been pointed out over and over, but if oda's going to say something about the D, then it will likely be one of the two. these aren't people related by blood or anything, but these are people who share a DESTINY. the same destiny gold roger once had.
think dragonball. gold roger has a dream and a destiny. after he died, his dream and destiny is passed on to a bunch of people. them being teach, ace, and luffy. (am i missing anyone?)
oh man, cant wait for the blackbeard-whitebeard-strawhat showdown.
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Originally posted by e1n@May 20 2005, 05:45 PM
these aren't people related by blood or anything, but these are people who share a DESTINY. the same destiny gold roger once had.
[snapback]52558[/snapback]Except for the fact that two of the men of D. actually are related by blood.
Of the two remaining D. characters, one looks like an older version of Luffy and has drawn numerous comparisons to him by several characters who knew the original. The other one just eats like Luffy, sounds like Luffy, and has the same body language as Luffy.
There's really more evidence to support the idea that they are related than there is to support the notion that they're not.
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Destiny
Death
Dream
Destruction
Desire
Despare
Delirum
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Originally posted by tengu@May 19 2005, 11:03 PM
**Somebody said something in the msn forum once that made me read up on Blackbeard. I think his original name was Edward Drummond but he changed it to Edward Teach or Edward D. Teach when he became a pirate. So maybe the D is their real surname and "Luffy", "Ace", etc are just made up pirate names to conceal their true ancestry omg omgどん
[snapback]52175[/snapback]**This got me researching Blackbeard, and I actully just found something intresting:
On the morning of November 22, 1718, Lt. Maynard and Blackbeard fought a bloody battle near Teachâ€
s Hole at Ocracoke Inlet. Blackbeard received twenty sword wounds and five gun shot wounds before he was brought down. Lt. Maynard ordered his head cut off and the body thrown overboard. Blackbeardâ€s head was tied to the bowsprit of the Adventure and taken back to Virginia. The death of Blackbeard signaled the end of “The Golden Age of Piracy.â€?Heh, The most famous real pirates death ended the golden age of piracy, and the most famous one piece pirates death started it.
…;_; Dont follow history oda, please!
HaHa, Man... History about the age of pirates is awesome, Thanks Tengu, I have something to write an essay on for history now! -
many people thinks the d stands for dream and so do i.
they have great dreams which will always come true.
gol d roger = pirate king
ace d = whitebeard will become pirate king
teach d = he will become a shibukai
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How can Luffy become the Pirate King after Whitebeard? I really think there will be a fight, a great one, somewhere in the Grand Line. And Whitebeard is going down, and maybe Ace too…
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Whitebeard won´t become Pirate King. He´s going to be the last enemy (I don´t count Shanks as an enemy) Luffy will fight to become Pirate King. There´s only one who will inherit Gold Roger that´s the entire point of One Piece. If Luffy would inherit Whitebeard then it would completely ruin everything what Oda´s has been working to establish in his story so far.
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That makes me think: what makes a pirate a king? Everyone recognizes Whitebeard as the biggest pirate, but he doesn't have the title. What gives?
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Well he hasn´t achieved everything in this world so far. Gold Roger was the first Pirate King, which means he set the standard. And if you don´t get that at least that far as him you´re not qualified to call yourself Pirate King.
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I think that the OP world doesn't consider you the Pirate king unless you have one piece, and if you have one piece, you'd have to be an awesome pirate, and if your an awesome pirate, you'd have a high bounty, and if you had a high bounty, everyone would recognize you as most powerfull ect.
And also, thought we dont know much about Whitebeard, I'm guessing the world wouldn't recognize you as pirate king if you where like a complete asshole or something. People with personalitys like Shanks, Ace, Luffy ect. are the type of people, the people would consider Pirate king.
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Originally posted by Crocodile~@May 22 2005, 08:15 PM
**I think that the OP world doesn't consider you the Pirate king unless you have one piece, and if you have one piece, you'd have to be an awesome pirate, and if your an awesome pirate, you'd have a high bounty, and if you had a high bounty, everyone would recognize you as most powerfull ect.And also, thought we dont know much about Whitebeard, I'm guessing the world wouldn't recognize you as pirate king if you where like a complete asshole or something. People with personalitys like Shanks, Ace, Luffy ect. are the type of people, the people would consider Pirate king.
[snapback]53953[/snapback]**You do realize that your second paragraph contradicts what you´ve said in the first one? Because if you have found One Piece then you´re definitely the Pirate King no matter what personality you have. Or do you think the World Government would be like:
Gorousei 1: "He found One Piece, proclaim that he´s the new Pirate King with making him the worlds most wanted man!"
G2: "Nah, he´s a complete asshole. Never ever met a guy with such a nasty personality!"
G3: "Really? Well then just forget what I said. Take away his previous bounty and let´s just all ignore him. That´ll hurt him more then anything else!"
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HaHa, Yeah, I contradict myself alot. That's why I'm a terrible arguer.
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Originally posted by Ivotas@May 22 2005, 08:28 PM
Gorousei 1: "He found One Piece, proclaim that he´s the new Pirate King with making him the worlds most wanted man!"
G2: "Nah, he´s a complete asshole. Never ever met a guy with such a nasty personality!"
G3: "Really? Well then just forget what I said. Take away his previous bounty and let´s just all ignore him. That´ll hurt him more then anything else!"
[snapback]53965[/snapback]ah ah that definitely fits with a discussion about luffy!
ok, here comes a question that has maybe already been answered, but why ace's name is portgas D ace if he's luffy's brother? shouldn't he be called Monkey D Ace? are i missed somthing about who the names work in the one piece world?
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Not everywhere in the world have same
last namesurname for the family. I have one friend whose surname is his father's first name and his siblings have some other surnames.I don't know if Oda intended those, but well… I can't think of any other reason +_+
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Originally posted by igalsfy@May 23 2005, 10:18 AM
ok, here comes a question that has maybe already been answered, but why ace's name is portgas D ace if he's luffy's brother? shouldn't he be called Monkey D Ace? are i missed somthing about who the names work in the one piece world?
[snapback]54424[/snapback]Well actually everyone should immediately notice that Ace and Luffy have the D. in common (especially in a thread that focuses on the D.)
I think that actually everything that might answer this question has already been said in this thread. Maybe you want to reread it again.
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I dont believe it's a bloodline thing…
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Originally posted by Ivotas+May 23 2005, 11:49 AM–>QUOTE(Ivotas @ May 23 2005, 11:49 AM)
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Originally posted by Aycee@May 23 2005, 12:46 PM
The guy black beard…Marshal D. Teach seems to have no relation to our hero man...
[snapback]54467[/snapback]You have evidence for that statement or is that just your personal assumption?
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in jaya luffy and blackbeard didnt knew about each other.
but after aokiji talked about luffys grandpa i always thaught its either roger,teach or whitebeard.
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@May 22 2005, 07:44 AM
That makes me think: what makes a pirate a king? Everyone recognizes Whitebeard as the biggest pirate, but he doesn't have the title. What gives?
[snapback]53750[/snapback]pirate king=one who has obtained one piece
i also don't think that because two of the "d" characters are related, they all are. that's absurd.
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_Originally posted by Günther+May 23 2005, 04:23 PM–>QUOTE(Günther @ May 23 2005, 04:23 PM)in jaya luffy and blackbeard didnt knew about each other.
[snapback]54530[/snapback]This only proves that they didn´t knew each other but it doesn´t proof that they aren´t related. I mean Blackbeard served under Ace and yet he doesn´t know who Ace´s brother is, so the fact that they don´t know each other doesn´t tell a crap about their relation.
Especially in a world of the great pirate age, I mean in Pirate stories it happenes quite often that one character finds some relative on a totally different place of the world. And just because I say that they are related I don´t mean that he´s the father of Luffy and Ace. For people who are familiar with larger families (because it appears that most people here are only familiar with the Grandparents, Parents, Kids concept) be assured that there indeed is such things as unlce´s, aunt´s, cousin´s and nephews. No kidding! :rolleyes:@May 23 2005, 04:52 PM
i also don't think that because two of the "d" characters are related, they all are. that's absurd.
[snapback]54544[/snapback]__Well I got to admit that it shouldn´t be to much of an indication. I mean all the Smith´s in this world aren´t related either.
However, the fact that Teach himself was talking about the importance of dreams to a pirate just gives him another reseblance to Luffy. There´s something about this D that relates them all together. It doesn´t have to be blood relationship but maybe a spiritual relationship. Maybe that´s how Roger is related with them too. :blink:_
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Hey just for the record has anyone seen whitebeard he's on his deathbed, one Gomu attack from the the Luff-ster and he's climbing the stair way to heaven. although i don't think that the Karma of most piarates is good so he may not make it up there
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Originally posted by Cosmic kid@May 31 2005, 07:02 PM
Hey just for the record has anyone seen whitebeard he's on his deathbed, one Gomu attack from the the Luff-ster and he's climbing the stair way to heaven. although i don't think that the Karma of most piarates is good so he may not make it up there
[snapback]59735[/snapback]If it would be that easy to deal with him he wouldn´t be the worlds strongest man. It´s like saying Master Yoda is easy to defeat since he´s on the verge of death because of his age.
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Since Monkey D. Luffy and Portugas D. Ace are brothers, in the one piece world, this middle "D" is what is passed on, or in other words, is their last name. Also, Luffy's (and Ace's) grandfather is Gol D. Roger. In episode 227, Ao Kiji basically says so.
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no Gol D. Roger isnt luffys and ace grandfather, aokiji just said that luffy rembers him at his grandfather.
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Originally posted by jackvance@Jun 4 2005, 03:19 PM
Since Monkey D. Luffy and Portugas D. Ace are brothers, in the one piece world, this middle "D" is what is passed on, or in other words, is their last name. Also, Luffy's (and Ace's) grandfather is Gol D. Roger. In episode 227, Ao Kiji basically says so.
[snapback]62844[/snapback]Aokiji never actually mentions who Luffy´s grandfather is, just that he deal with him before.
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but i think its just something to make us think that whos luffys grandpaps but later on we will now that Roger is! assumption no facts
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Hey assumption is all cool with me. I don´t share the assumption but I admit that it so far is an option.
I just say that it wasn´t evidently proven that Gold Roger is his grandpa.
And since we´re on the level of assumptions. I think that Gol D. Roger may be his granduncle. Yep!
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Well Ao Kiji also said "your grandfather sure gave me a lot of trouble".. so whoever he is talking about, it has to be a big shot pirate to give such a powerful guy trouble.. and saying it that way also implies that he caught him. Gol D. Roger fits that description. Take that, together with two other hints (people comparing Luffy to the Roger when Buggy captures him (smiling when he is about to die) and the "D" part shared between Luffy, ace and Roger) and I think it's pretty clear.. (either that or Oda is purposely misdirecting us)
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Originally posted by jackvance@Jun 5 2005, 05:29 AM
Well Ao Kiji also said "your grandfather sure gave me a lot of trouble".. so whoever he is talking about, it has to be a big shot pirate to give such a powerful guy trouble.. and saying it that way also implies that he caught him. Gol D. Roger fits that description. Take that, together with two other hints (people comparing Luffy to the Roger when Buggy captures him (smiling when he is about to die) and the "D" part shared between Luffy, ace and Roger) and I think it's pretty clear.. (either that or Oda is purposely misdirecting us)
[snapback]63565[/snapback]Nothing is pretty clear just judging by the D. Blackbeard is really called Marshall D. Teach, so what? Now don´t tell me that Ace was the commander of his own father.
Besides if Aokiji captured Gold Roger then I´d be pretty much disappointed in the Pirate Kings powers.
Remember the World Government has the Three Supreme Admirals, the Shichibukai, the enitre Marine and the CP´s at their command and yet they think that if Whitebeard and Shanks for together, they would have a serious problem. Which would mean those two pirate crew could take on them all.
And since Gold Roger and Whitebeard seem to have been in the same league it is highly unlikely that Aokiji beat him.Besides a completely different point. Over the years we´re watching One Piece Luffy was always like WOW and completly excited when Gold Roger was discussed. But the one and only time that his grandfather gets mentioned he completely freaks out as we´ve never seen him before. Sorry but I´m not buying your argument.
You can say that you believe that Gold Roger is his grandfather that´s fine. Just don´t claim for it to be true since there´s no evidence for it.
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Originally posted by Ivotas@Jun 5 2005, 03:49 AM
Nothing is pretty clear just judging by the D. Blackbeard is really called Marshall D. Teach, so what? Now don´t tell me that Ace was the commander of his own father.I tend to lean towards the idea that Teach is Luffy and Ace's uncle rather than their father myself (Shanks is my bet for their, or at the very least, Luffy's dad), but why couldn't Ace be higher ranked than his own father if he's stronger?
But the one and only time that his grandfather gets mentioned he completely freaks out as we´ve never seen him before.
Well, he does have two different grandfathers after all. One of them may have been a Marine or something similar, so Luffy may idolize the grandfather he never got a chance to meet while at the same time be very intimidated by the one that he actually met.
Just don´t claim for it to be true since there´s no evidence for it.
[snapback]63701[/snapback]Just out of curiosity, have you ever really looked closely at your own avatar?
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Aokiji said that Luffy's grandfather had caused him a lot of trouble, that could mean he was a pirate.
