King Ty is simply pointing out the ignorant crap some members are spewing in this thread. He is discussing on his own accord. At least he is not being a troll like you and Troll-OM..Gorlom, excuse me.
And he called you a dumb fuck.
King Ty is simply pointing out the ignorant crap some members are spewing in this thread. He is discussing on his own accord. At least he is not being a troll like you and Troll-OM..Gorlom, excuse me.
And he called you a dumb fuck.
Guys these are two different stories with two different styles of writing. What need is there for Bleach to have more than three cultures? For the story Kubo is writing three is all that is necessary. I personally believe that when Kubo started Bleach the entire story had already been completed. In my view this story will end after Aizen with a slight possibility for a heaven arc where Aizen opens the gate to the King and everyone has to fight the Royal guards because all who have seen heaven must stay in heaven. And the King is a bad guy.
Kubo, just recently stated in a interview with the Americian Shounen Jump that, he has no idea how the story is going to end.
And he called you a dumb fuck.
No he didn't he called Luffy batter that. You quoted and misread wrong.
@[B:
King Ty]Its cool, thats what i forum is about…discussing. And when you discuss you have an opinion. I couldnt give a shit about what many of the nerds in this thread have to say, they can suck a dick. Its like all they do is stay on this site, and read One Piece all day. Damn get some friends and stop trying to look cool over the net. Just like in the manga discussion thread weekly, if someone says something along the lines of: "I didnt really like this chapter" or "nothing really happened" here comes the 'One Police' trying to force down how you should like it and etc…Theres very few who actually say what they want on this site. Its always an extreme of "I liked it" and "I hate it" if you say something that doesnt agree with the masses you get blacklisted. To many punks not saying what they really want to.
Add about 10 smilies to that post for gorlom
You said nothing but the truth.
No he didn't he called Luffy batter that.
WHAAAAAAAAT!?! O_O
You guys just can't post that's all.
I don't see how that makes up for the art?
Every art style has its flaws, Oda's look childish, but he has excellent backgrounds and interesting character designs. Kubo's has no backgrounds, but the characters are excellently drawn and the more over the top stuff is grotesque in an intriguing sort of way. Togashi's is more sketchy looking, but he has an eye for detail and likes bizarre characters. If you're goint to criticize Togashi, I see no reason why you shouldn't go after Bleach and the other big hitters for the same reason
We shall see, Cause Oda mentioned nothing.
It's implied indirectly. My bad
Every art style has its flaws, Oda's look childish, but he has excellent backgrounds and interesting character designs. Kubo's has no backgrounds, but the characters are excellently drawn and the more over the top stuff is grotesque in an intriguing sort of way. Togashi's is more sketchy looking, but he has an eye for detail and likes bizarre characters. If you're goint to criticize Togashi, I see no reason why you shouldn't go after Bleach and the other big hitters for the same reason
Yeah your right but I like the cartoon style one piece has and Bleach's drawings. For some reason the art of HxH does not appeal to me at all. I guess furry animals with no detail don't appear to me.
Yeah your right but I like the cartton style one piece has and Bleach's drawings. For some reason the art of HxH does not appeal to me at all. I guess furry animals with no detail don't appear to me.
Then read before the Chimera Ant arc
Ok…............
@Tokoro:
There is a major difference between Oda and Kubo. Oda is a compitent mangaka that knows everything that he's doing and the exact place where everything belongs. Kubo knows what he's doing but can occasionally be slapdash in the means by which he's doing so. When Hell was introduced at the end of the Parakeet story, Kubo was assuming his series was going to be "YYH for a new generation", which it quickly was changed once Soul Society started. Look, I'm not saying he doesn't touch on everything he set up (it took over 180+ chapters from the first pic of Shinji before he finally appeared and Kubo had said he wanted to bring him in earlier, not to mention the end of Grand Fisher did hint at the existance of Arrancar but they didn't appear until later either) but at this point Hell just seems out of the story unless Kubo knows where it fits where the world is now.
That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. Arguments of that sort always arise because us readers can't imagine something that was mentioned long ago to backfire within future events of the story. It's us who can't see it comming which is something totally different to the author having it saved in the back of his mind.
I just think that such complaints should be reserved until a manga is completed. If by then something really was forgotten, but until it's still in the making it's ridiculous to consider that a screw up since there's always the room for change. And I don't really see a difference between Oda and Kubo here. Oda's universe might have a lot more stuff included then Kubo's but that does not mean that one has Alzheimer while the other doesn't. Have a little faith. I'm sure that Hell will get touched at some point. Considering that Aizen wants to invade the Kings place I'm sure that at this point the complexety of all the afterworlds will get touched. It will only take us eons to get there.^^
ok I'l bite… what is a "Troll-OM"?
oh it's supposed to be a weak pun on my name?... Should have guessed. Goes with the whole handing out points to yourself bit...
…bah.
I used to not have any problem with Miracles, I even found his pompous posting style kind of amusing.
And then he had to go and insult Togashi. Moron.
@Trollom:
ok I'l bite… My username is "TrolloM"?
Your off topic again troll, can you please talk to me about Bleach.
@Dark Lord Zenigame: It ain't my fault those drawings of Togshi's are terrible.
Bleach is not a bad story, it's just limited in the scope. One Piece covers a wide variety of events, places, people, pretty much on a global scale. Bleach focuses specifically on a series of events created by a single antagonist: Sosuke Aizen. That's fine. There is nothing wrong with that. One Piece, on the other hand, focuses on the adventure of Monkey D. Luffy, while at the same time gives us a view at other characters (Shanks, Whitebeard, Buggy) doing other things in parallel. While the strawhats are doing this, this character is doing this, or this pirate is doing that.
That's the biggest flaw in Bleach, to me. Because we don't know what the other characters are doing while the Ichigo team is progressing the story, Kubo often has characters popping out of nowhere. Sure, once or twice is fine. If you create a lot of characters, then it's really hard to break away from the main story to give them all some screen time. But almost every couple chapters, we have people in Bleach in a dire situation, and someone shows up to bail them out at the last second. With power-ups, it's expected. This is shonen. Random or newly revealed powerups happen in Shonen; that's just how it works. But with characters, it just seems awkward.
I agree with you "Fire Fist" Ace.
To Gorlom: Sorry about that. Maybe Kubo will touch on Hell but at this point it just feels so out of everything else going on with Karakura, SS, HM and possibly King's Dimension all colliding into one massive free-for-all. Maybe he will but until then I have my doubts.
As for the whole "culture war" that sprouted up all because of my words, let me just say this one last thing: when this whole thing started, all I wanted to do was try to defend the introduction chapters Oda uses for the beginning of each and every arc. People were making stupid comments about "riding bubbles" and "going to an amusement park" as what it meant to the world of OP. But in a way, that is what OP is. Yes, its a shonen, there will be fights and adventure and intrigue. But it is also a travelogue for the world that Oda has set the world in. He wants to familiarize us with the matters and situations in each and every place we go to before he dives deep into the meat of an arc. He wants us to have a sense of wonder and bewilderment to every place in this world the SH go to. To him, the place, whether it is a jungle filled with dinosaurs, a sky paradise, a sinking canal city or even a tourist stop near the red line filled with bubbles, is just as important a character as those who do the things that is there.
As for the Bleach comparison, I was never comparing it to the actual places by which they take place in. Kubo does a good job in showing off all three of his worlds bit by bit, whether it is Karakura, Soul Society or Hueco Mundo. The problem is that since these are the only places that matter in this world, Kubo doesn't need to go into showing them off unless its some new facet we never knew before. Thus, with everything set up easily, he is able to get to what is a typical Bleach chapter: fights leading to more fights leading to even more fights.
Now lets all drop the subject and move on.
^^ I agree with him too
moving on..
hows life
So which possible couples in Bleach do you think will come true?
edit: on second thought, nel-chan x underboob
That a possible pairing I think.
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That is picard?:blink: I thought it was a thumb or something…
Yeah, I know it sucks. I actually thought about making a full size version of this banging facepalm.
I thought it was a thumb at first too.
Yeah, I know it sucks. I actually thought about making a full size version of this banging facepalm.
Your OFF TOPIC again, troll. Add two more pwnage points for Miracles. TrollOM..I mean Gorlom is just to predictable.
Your chatting garbage now, your whole argument was BASED on what Tokoro Ataru said. You didn't come with an argument of your own. You were simply standing on the sidelines being a freaking cheerleader for Tokoro Ataru the entire time. Here is the proof of what your argument was…http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=909700&postcount=4230…
The word "Constantly" you claim you used ain't there nor was it your argument. Like King Ty said, you make yourself look foolish. Someone get Luffy Batter some pom poms!
BTW, I never said Bleach has more than three cultures, that was not the freakin argument. Again, you are trying to put words into people's post but you ain't smart enough to do it so I suggest you stop.
Bwahahahahaha, I loved how quickly your argument degenerated, it's hilarious!!!
I simply asked you to prove a certain point you made (which was pretty much impossible) and rather than admitting you're a dumbass who's obsessed with putting One Piece and Bleach on the same level in everything even non-existent things due to an automatic response mechanism in your brain, you try to back-track, insult me, say things that have no relevance to the argument (the cheer leading, wasn't expected but sure as hell was funny) and pretty much everything else that is all holy and trollish.
Dude, you are so done. Waiter, check please! :)
There's no need to discuss this further. I doubt I'll respond to anything you say on the matter from now on unless you say something particularly lulzy.
From now on, anything you say will be irrelevant insults and back-tracking, trying to change the issue saying that's not what the argument about when I CONSTANTLY and CONTINUOUSLY made clear what the argument was about.
Yeah, you're done. Been fun discussing this Miracles. Next time you want another owning, say something stupid again and I'll be glad to comply ^_^
And that's a wrap.
For the record though.
http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=910590&postcount=4260
I even had it in caps :/
Later.
Oh and lulz at TrollOM. Sorry Gorlom, but I just find it funny for some reason XD
The character designs are terrible and the sketch don't make it no better.
Terrible? there much more creative than what kubo comes up with. The most creative character designs I have honestly seen from kubo would be: Kenpachi, Byakuya, Mayuri, Grimm Jow, Barragan, Nell,Shinji w/hollow mask, Nnoitora. I honestly believe that kubo's character desighns are rather bland and something you would see from a generic anime series.
Blah blah blah blablablablabla
Your opinion, not his. Damn…opinions are like assholes, everyones got em. Stop trying to convert people...no matter how much you guys go on. You arnt changing his or anyone else who feels the same way opinions, if anything your making them worse
Honest, i dont like HxH designs either...but Yuyu Hakusho. Thats the shit
Bwahahahahaha, I loved how quickly your argument degenerated, it's hilarious!!!
I simply asked you to prove a certain point you made (which was pretty much impossible) and rather than admitting you're a dumbass who's obsessed with putting One Piece and Bleach on the same level in everything even non-existent things due to an automatic response mechanism in your brain, you try to back-track, insult me, say things that have no relevance to the argument (the cheer leading, wasn't expected but sure as hell was funny) and pretty much everything else that is all holy and trollish.
Dude, you are so done. Waiter, check please! :)
There's no need to discuss this further. I doubt I'll respond to anything you say on the matter from now on unless you say something particularly lulzy.
From now on, anything you say will be irrelevant insults and back-tracking, trying to change the issue saying that's not what the argument about when I CONSTANTLY and CONTINUOUSLY made clear what the argument was about.Yeah, you're done. Been fun discussing this Miracles. Next time you want another owning, say something stupid again and I'll be glad to comply ^_^
And that's a wrap.
For the record though.
http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=910590&postcount=4260
I even had it in caps :/
Later.
Oh and lulz at TrollOM. Sorry Gorlom, but I just find it funny for some reason XD
Yeah you tried to change up and go off of what Tokoru said and you failed terribly because you messed up when you quoted me the FIRST time. No matter how much you try to change up or add on to your argument, This….was your THESIS son, this was your main point to BEGIN WITH when you thought you were being smart and quoted me!
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=909700&postcount=4230
Terrible? there much more creative than what kubo comes up with. The most creative character designs I have honestly seen from kubo would be: Kenpachi, Byakuya, Mayuri, Grimm Jow, Barragan, Nell,Shinji w/hollow mask, Nnoitora. I honestly believe that kubo's character desighns are rather bland and something you would see from a generic anime series.
Yes HxH is terrible, they look like critters.
What HxH lacks in art, it more than makes up for it in story and characters.
What HxH lacks in art, it more than makes up for it in story and characters.
Finally, an intelligent member. Thank you Emperor Time, that is very insightful.
Yeah you tried to change up and go off of what Tokoru said and you failed terribly because you messed up when you quoted me the FIRST time. No matter how much you try to change up or add on to your argument, This….was your THESIS son, this was your main point to BEGIN WITH when you thought you were being smart and quoted me!
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=909700&postcount=4230
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LOL, PHAIL!!!
That's not where my argument started so it has no relevance.
Funny how you didn't address the issues but tried to back-track some more like I predicted XD
But you just carry on making a fool out of yourself. It's really hilarious XD
I'm keeping the gif though. Seems like I can use it a lot unlike you.
Finally, an intelligent member. Thank you Emperor Time, that is very insightful.
Emperor Time did make a good point but how would you know about HxH story since it seems that you wouldn't read it because of it's art.
Blah blah blah blablablablabla
Your opinion, not his. Damn…opinions are like assholes, everyones got em. Stop trying to convert people...no matter how much you guys go on. You arnt changing his or anyone else who feels the same way opinions, if anything your making them worse
Honest, i dont like HxH designs either...but Yuyu Hakusho. Thats the shit
I will change opinions since I am neptune god of the universe.
Sigh, remember people: Arguing with Miracles is a waste of time! The only exception to this was when Greg beautifully out-manuvered him a month or two ago.
@Fire Fist:
Bleach is not a bad story, it's just limited in the scope. One Piece covers a wide variety of events, places, people, pretty much on a global scale. Bleach focuses specifically on a series of events created by a single antagonist: Sosuke Aizen. That's fine. There is nothing wrong with that. One Piece, on the other hand, focuses on the adventure of Monkey D. Luffy, while at the same time gives us a view at other characters (Shanks, Whitebeard, Buggy) doing other things in parallel. While the strawhats are doing this, this character is doing this, or this pirate is doing that.
That's the biggest flaw in Bleach, to me. Because we don't know what the other characters are doing while the Ichigo team is progressing the story, Kubo often has characters popping out of nowhere. Sure, once or twice is fine. If you create a lot of characters, then it's really hard to break away from the main story to give them all some screen time. But almost every couple chapters, we have people in Bleach in a dire situation, and someone shows up to bail them out at the last second. With power-ups, it's expected. This is shonen. Random or newly revealed powerups happen in Shonen; that's just how it works. But with characters, it just seems awkward.
You, sir, get a round of applause for that post. Well done.
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"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src=" " type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></object>Sigh, remember people: Arguing with Miracles is a waste of time! The only exception to this was when Greg beautifully out-manuvered him a month or two ago.
What? I pretty much just pulled a Greg on Miracles as well. Not as long or detailed but in essence I did the same thing. That is trounce him by pure logic and lol as he stutters and tries to bring things back to his own trollish field which I would not let him do :)
A quick summary of the situation as it stands right now.
People currently at Karakura Town Showdown:
People that could intervene:
The loose ends to tie up @ Las Noches:
Any particular match-ups that you want to see and/or questions you want answered in this upcoming battle royal? Personally, if there's a Komamura v. Tosen, Shunsui/Unitake v. Stark, and a relatively quick Ichigo/Ulquiorra, I'd be very content.
don't forget about Wonderweiss
What? I pretty much just pulled a Greg on Miracles as well. Not as long or detailed but in essence I did the same thing. That is trounce him by pure logic and lol as he stutters and tries to bring things back to his own trollish field which I would not let him do :)
Do you have any friends at all?
You seem like its the highlight of your life, "beating" someone over the net…that you dont even know. Great job kid
btw…you lost big time
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure I did.
Says the guy who couldn't even understand what my argument was about.
Anyway, about your summary SuperJew, you forget Ichigo's friends on earth, namely Tatsuki and the rest. Urahara DID say they had to prepare something.
As I see it with SuperJew's setup:
-Until the Vizard appear, its pretty much SS vs. Aizen. All captains will pair off with either an Espada or Aizen's trio. VC's are mostly worthless….except Matsumoto. (she was training for Bankai using Ikkaku's method and somehow I see her releasing it...if not now, then during some sort of climax with Gin)
-Most of those still in SS currently (AKA: the other part that isn't Karakura) really can't bring too much and seem to be fanboy/girl fodder (Hisagi, Kira, Momo, Nanao). Only ones that probably could come in as backup are Ikkaku and Yumichika...(particularly for Yumichika if he, like Matsumoto, has mastered the Bankai training) Kuukaku and Ganju are also maybe wild cards but I just can't see them appearing (at least not yet).
-Vizard are guaranteed to show up for revenge, the question now is when. I could see Shinigami bodies falling before they appear but I think it may just finish off Barrigan/Stark/Halibel instead of Aizen/Tousen/Gin
-Same goes for Urahara/Yoruichi/Tessai and Ichigo & Uryuu's daddies: they will appear, problem is how and when.
-Back in HM, we not only have Ulquiorra to worry about but also Yammi & Wonderweiss.
-On Ichigo's side, we have him probably going to U-man, but the rest of the squad seems spent or saved for another time. Uryuu & Renji are ripped from the whole Szayel nonsense. Kenpachi, Mayuri & Byakuya all had their fights. Unohana is being saved for something else. Nemu was pretty much Szayel bait and Hanataro is just weak.
-There were three characters I didn't mention but mostly due to a couple weird scenarios I have in my head and due to the little they've done so far in HM:
1. Chad: he's fighting Yammi. He may just be healed by Unohana but this is probably the last big fight he's getting.
2. Isane: Yeah, I know what you're thinking: why her? As I see it, she's been held back one too many times by Unohana and I somehow assisting Chad against Yammi...mostly in a scenario where Unohana tells her to keep an eye on the patient and she finally fights if only to help Chad against the Espada. (that and I sort of want to see her fight just once without being knocked out instantly...see Ichigo)
3. Yachiru: Somehow I have another silly thought that she's going to befriend Wonderweiss without fighting him...the two do seem to probably potentially get along on a base level...and if things get messy, she can unleash too.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure I did.
Says the guy who couldn't even understand what my argument was about.
=
still curious if inouhe will ever beat someone. i mean they were hinting something special about ehr powers for so long. be a shame if all they did was have some stupid barriar block once in a while and here reverse time heal.
give her only cool fairy some love. he fighting dude.
Didn't Yammy squash the fighting fairy that Inouhe had?
Hachi put it back together.
That right, I forgot about that.
@Tokoro:
As I see it with SuperJew's setup:
-Until the Vizard appear, its pretty much SS vs. Aizen. All captains will pair off with either an Espada or Aizen's trio. VC's are mostly worthless….except Matsumoto. (she was training for Bankai using Ikkaku's method and somehow I see her releasing it...if not now, then during some sort of climax with Gin)
Aizen is specifically reserved for Shinji. The flashback we just had made that pretty damn clear. Gin and Matsumoto is the most likely case, but I keep getting Rukia vs. Gin vibes for some odd reason.
-Most of those still in SS currently (AKA: the other part that isn't
Karakura) really can't bring too much and seem to be fanboy/girl fodder (Hisagi, Kira, Momo, Nanao). Only ones that probably could come in as backup are Ikkaku and Yumichika…(particularly for Yumichika if he, like Matsumoto, has mastered the Bankai training) Kuukaku and Ganju are also maybe wild cards but I just can't see them appearing (at least not yet).
Nanao and Hisagi may have a part to play, considering they were shown in the flashback, though that was just to show their relationships with the Vaizard and how they ended up becoming Lieutenants. Momo and Kira… well, I don't foresee much action for them.
-Vizard are guaranteed to show up for revenge, the question now is when. I could see Shinigami bodies falling before they appear but I think it may just finish off Barrigan/Stark/Halibel instead of Aizen/Tousen/Gin
Again, Shinji WILL be fighting Aizen. It's payback. And I think the Espada will go down before the 3 traitors.
-Back in HM, we not only have Ulquiorra to worry about but also Yammi & Wonderweiss.
Yammi's a joke now. Uryuu could defeat him with the slightest tap. And Wonderweiss is too childlike and pure to be a threat.
3. Yachiru: Somehow I have another silly thought that she's going to befriend Wonderweiss without fighting him…the two do seem to probably potentially get along on a base level...and if things get messy, she can unleash too.
That would make sense. Yachiru releasing though… I can imagine her ability being pretty fucking ridiculous (as in powerful, not stupid). They've hinted constantly that Ikkaku is the second strongest MAN in the squad for a reason.
I think Aizen had everything planned out for years just to trap Yachiru in HM. He knew his little troupe would never even lay a hand on the human world as long as she was in the picture. It worked perfectly though. The only critical moment was when they still were in HM with her. That's why Aizen immediately fled to the human world when Yachiru arrive in HM. Sacrificing all the Arrancar and basically the whole plane of HM to her in the process of course. Well, it's not like there had been another way.