Chapter 364 "Kokoro" Discussion

Ubiq

Originally posted by lucciano_minhawk@Apr 28 2005, 05:21 PM
im probably gonna stop reading one piece since it is going so slow. all of you probably wont agree but anime takes everybodies social life away it kills everything
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If you think it's killing your social life, then simply decrease the amount of time that you put into it. Maybe check in on the series maybe once a month or so, which might not be a bad idea anyway if the manga is going too slow for your tastes. Waiting until three or four chapters have gone by before reading them is a good way to remedy that.

If it's a total obsession (like you're spending so much money on it that you can't pay your bills or are shutting out family members and friends in favor of it or are hiding toys from little kids), then by all means, stop completely before you go all Miyazaki and become an axe murderer.

thanks ubiq that is the best advice i have had about this problem
thanks again
now back on topic before i get warned

op74

I want to see what happen to Lulu and Tilestone !!!!

CosmicDebris

Hm, honestly, I don't care what happened to those two guys. :P

Cap'n Carter

Come on, Lulu's the man.

joekido the Second

Lulu and Tilestone last a short time, and they died in a burning building. No one seems to care to care about them.

changsho

By "died" I suppose you mean "pwned" or something else… Oda rarely kills in the present.

Lulu's at least as strong as Paulie I guess, but he's just no match for the CP9. Same goes to Tilestone.

CosmicDebris

I'm more curious as to what happened to Nami's pants (or skirt) on the color spread. :P I think the hippo ate them.

Ubiq

Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Apr 29 2005, 12:03 AM
Hm, honestly, I don't care what happened to those two guys. :P
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WUUUUUUUUOOOOOOHHHH! Why so harsh?

Really though, have either of them been mentioned recently?

Konis

Originally posted by Buccaneer@Apr 28 2005, 05:29 AM
**2. There was no one around when they first beat him up. So, unless he likes getting kicked and…....fingered, there was no point in trying to hide the blueprints from them.

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This line make me giggle and I can't quite pinpoint why… o.o

I seriously doubt Paulie would be a bad guy... there's no real reason for it. Oda's established that he's insanely loyal to, and cares a great deal about, Iceburg. It's easy to fake concern, like Kalifa did when Iceburg was shot.. but a bit harder to fake full blown panic, Paulie screaming on the phone when he thought Iceburg might be dead, ramming his way through the crowds to get to Galley-la to check on Iceburg.. He also carried out Iceburg's decoy plan at great personal risk... and didn't run away as he was told to. He could have grabbed the plans and left, but he didn't. He wanted to face the enemy.

Turning Paulie into a bad guy would be an awful shock, and frankly, it'd disappoint me far more than him simply not joining the crew would.

Battle Franky

Originally posted by op74@Apr 29 2005, 09:27 AM
I want to see what happen to Lulu and Tilestone !!!!
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I think Lulu is alright, he was taken out outside on second or third floor of Galley-la, but he was with the other shipwrights at the time, who Calipha just side stepped. Tileston, um he was right outside Iceburg's door, Blueno messed him up big time, so who knows.

But one of the workers tells Pauly later, that only Lucci & Kaku are missing, no mention of the other two, so they've probably been pulled to safety somehow.

d3adpool

i know oda doesn't like to kill chars in the present but here's my view:
Tilestone was knocked out unconsious right outside iceburg room.
The building start to burn down.
Lucchi's rankyaku made impossible for galleyla operative to reach iceburg room (a therefore his door)
The building finished to burn down.

i think it's safe to say that we have a man down people… but hell... Pell survived a huge bomb at point-blank so i won't be too surprised if Tilestone isn't dead, just a little.

And Lulu should be ok since he was defending the outside of the HQ.

oceanizer

Originally posted by CosmicDebris@Apr 28 2005, 02:20 PM
Uh, yeah, if you're so obsessed with the anime/manga that it's killing your social life, I think you really SHOULD stop reading it.Â :P
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:) I should stop it. I'm recovering my social life lately. I need 48 hours per day!
But really, I keep watching out for raws, and that's a total waste of time… But I need my chapter!!

CosmicDebris

Yeah, I hear ya. I've never had a big social life anyway, I'm very introverted. But I get out and do stuff with people a few times a week at least - I'm far from a recluse. ;) Work and house cleaning will keep me in a lot more.

Sorry I sound harsh for not caring about Tilestone and LuLu…just being honest. I care in the standpoint that Iceberg and Pauly would care, but I don't have much interest in those characters. Judging from the way things have happened in previous chapters, they're most likely alright. I do, however, wonder if Mos and Kiwi are still alive. They probably are, because Oda hates to kill characters.

patz

Originally posted by oceanizer@Apr 29 2005, 03:12 PM
>:) I should stop it. I'm recovering my social life lately. I need 48 hours per day!
But really, I keep watching out for raws, and that's a total waste of time… But I need my chapter!!
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I think there's no chapter this week due to Japanese Golden week, no Naruto too.

Yoska

Originally posted by patz@Apr 30 2005, 11:10 AM
I think there's no chapter this week due to Japanese Golden week, no Naruto too.

But those might leak out by any day and any time as has happened before which is honestly a bit irritating because I've to keep revising the page every now and then in a case it has :P. I would prefer it coming out "normally".

Zephos

Originally posted by lucciano_minhawk@Apr 28 2005, 04:21 PM
im probably gonna stop reading one piece since it is going so slow. all of you probably wont agree but anime takes everybodies social life away it kills everything
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Son, I'd like you to clock the amount of time it takes to click "download", and wait for the download, and read the download, and click the x's on the screens when your done, then leave the computer room.

It might be 10 minutes…...it might be.

Furthermore, ANYTHING can take control of your life if you let it. Don't blame anime, when maybe your not so great at time-management.

Bleh until 365…need to see...Oda's character designs

Buccaneer

I don't find this wait so bad, actually. Especially now, since there's only a few days.

Cap'n Carter

It's been harder for me, to resist the spoiler topic..

Buccaneer

I saw your name in there once. :P

Cap'n Carter

Yeah, a few times I accidentally clicked it without thinking, but I never read anything.

changsho

Is the thread "One Page of 365" for real??

ooshi78

Originally posted by changsho@May 2 2005, 09:29 AM
Is the thread "One Page of 365" for real??
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yeah… why don't you take a look???

ooshi78

changsho

Ah, I think I'll procrastinate… 365 is only a few days away :)

Solid

Is a HQ scan of chapter 364 available?

CosmicDebris

Crap, this is torture. First there's a 365 spoiler, now there's a translation and one page. Which page is it? Is it the first page? if so, I'll look. If not, I'll wait.

Oh yeah, and I'd like a HQ scan of 364 too.

Buccaneer

It wasn't the first page, but that one is out now. There are like, 8 pages from this chapter out. They're really LQ, though.

changsho

Is the Jump released already? O_o

Buccaneer

Dun think so. I guess it's like that time the "Bingo" spoiler page came out. The full chapter came out shortly, and the board went nuts. :P

CosmicDebris

Arrg….must...resist...

Are the pages at least in order, or random? :(

ooshi78

Originally posted by CosmicDebris@May 2 2005, 04:47 PM
**Arrg….must...resist...

Are the pages at least in order, or random?Â :(
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lol

there's some pages in order… they're in the second half of the chapter though. really really low quality.

ooshi78

CosmicDebris

sigh OK, I'll just wait. I can do it!

changsho

… Why is your name shown in that forum? O_o

...Must.. RESIST...

CosmicDebris

Um…uh...it was an accident! I meant to post in a different thread, yeah, that's the ticket...

<_< :D Yeah I caved. How could I resist a full translation?

changsho

Alright, just one question:

Does it seem like a ROCKING chapter that's worth a longer wait?

Battle Franky

Yeh, I'd say it's probably the most eventful and interesting chapter since the end of Tom's flashback. Things are really starting to pick up again, it'll be good.. trust me. B)

changsho

XD Thanks! Made my day.. (or night)

Knight

Hmmm, there's a question that I've been wondering for a while. I don't know if it has been discussed so please forgive me if it has been thoroughly discussed.

In several previous chapters, Iceberg told Nami how Robin was threatened by CP9 with the use of Buster Call is she refuse their invitation. And that Buster Call was authorized by Aokiji. Personally, I don't think Aokiji is the kind of person who would do this kind of thing. However it is possible that he called CP9 after meeting the Strawhats to inform CP9 about the arrival of Strawhats and the presence of Robin.
Would CP9 falsely use Aokiji's name to authorize Buster Call or even to frighten Robin?

Any suggestion or opinion guys/girls?

changsho

Originally posted by Knight@May 3 2005, 11:01 AM
**Hmmm, there's a question that I've been wondering for a while. I don't know if it has been discussed so please forgive me if it has been thoroughly discussed.

In several previous chapters, Iceberg told Nami how Robin was threatened by CP9 with the use of Buster Call is she refuse their invitation. And that Buster Call was authorized by Aokiji. Personally, I don't think Aokiji is the kind of person who would do this kind of thing. However it is possible that he called CP9 after meeting the Strawhats to inform CP9 about the arrival of Strawhats and the presence of Robin.
Would CP9 falsely use Aokiji's name to authorize Buster Call or even to frighten Robin?

Any suggestion or opinion guys/girls?
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Robin knows Aokiji a bit from their previous encounters; I trust her judgement as she is one of the smartest people in OP…

Although Aokiji seems like a nice enough guy, we don't really know his methods of dealing with pirates (well, except for the fact that he does it lazily). As an admiral he would help civilians gladly, but pirates?

Knight

I agree with you about Robin changsho :)

You made a good point about Aokiji. He is a marine after all. It's just that I always thought of Aokiji as a man similar to Smoker in upholding justice, that is fighting with the pirate fair & square and face to face.

CosmicDebris

Yeah, I don't see any reason for CP9 to lie about who gave the authorization. The danger of Buster Call is the same whether it was AoKiji who gave the order or not.

freedom

My theories on why AoKiji authorized the "Buster Call" is that he is testing the Straw Hats. After all, they've already taken out one of the Shichibukai, and if they're strong enough to defeat the CP9, then they are really a threat to the World Government, and the WG and Marines will have to consider them seriously from now on, and not just some lucky kids on parade.

CosmicDebris

He may be testing them, but as a Marine admiral, I don't think that he is hoping they would pass the test. Although I wouldn't be surprised if he found it amusing if they did. Just a greater challenge for him.

BTW, 365 confirms it was AoKiji that authorized Buster Call.

changsho

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Cosmic, did you just spoil 365?

Battle Franky

It's nothing that we didn't know before, hardly a spoiler really.

CosmicDebris

Did I? I thought that was common knowlege. CP9 mentioned he gave the authorization a long time ago.

changsho

No, but, uh, you know. Now I know that 365 has something to do with Buster Call and Aokiji ._.

CosmicDebris

Actually, it doesn't. It was just mentioned.

changsho

Okay, never mind ^^ I'm just paranoid about details…