DarKNiiKoN: moria has a DF power related to stealing the shadows (and eating?)
those that get their shadows stolen are still alive and the only known effect is that they cant be exposed to sunlight.
doubt perona is involved in any transport.
Theories That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
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Well its not really a theory but i'm not really sure where to put this idea so I'll put it here.
Does anybody think that the Straw Hats will go to the Island of the Little People? Montblanc Norland mentioned this while he was telling his adventures to the kids. He was known as a liar, but his descendant told how Montblanc always told the truth. Even if it was a lie, it could still come true like a certain Straw Hat's lies that always seem to come true
How crazy would it be for the Straw Hats to go there? All of the Straw Hats will look like Giants, especially Franky/Robin. In fact it'd be weirder if they lived near the island of giants but htat's a different story.
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Okay, here's some theories for you:
Lola is Enel's mother;
North Blue doesn't actually exist, the WG covers this fact up with brainwashing and memory altering of many many people to imply that it actually exists,
Chopper's Monster Point is in fact actually a channeling of the spirit of Satan,
and Garp and Sengoku have an ongoing secret love affair.
Discuss.
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And Ace was Arlongs shakespearean transvestite milkman?
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My Theory:
The theory of void century, ancient kingdom, WG and Impel Down..
The ancient kingdom used to very large and boast influece all over the world, advanced in science and technology along with prosperity, but then great incident occur.. One of their royal family infected and mutated by some experiment and start to rampage then bring the world to chaos and darkness age.. he must be stopped or isolated..
WG established as afiliate of other country, togather they try to stop him. Even they create Godname Weapon[Pluton, Poseidon, other] to stop him. But he hardly killed or die. With the rest of world power, they sunk him [nearly die] to the deep of abyss, located bottom of the sea: Impel Down.. He still alive untill now.. Nowadays, it used to isolate brute criminal to hell!
Later, the world rebuild and WG have their eye on every place, and boast influence. Next, WG begin to corrupt over their enormous influence. People went to out of control again.[Pluton blueprint pass to generation to match the mis-used Godnae weapon]
WG don't want people to know the truth of Void century of it's horrible by reading poneglyph. the reason of D family had enormous power and strong will is because they're descendants of him[The Demon, source of destruction] Davy Jones. D stands of Davy= Devil itself. Locked of the bottom of the sea[Impel Down]. DF source come from that experiment of ancient kingdom..
So, WG afraid of ancient kingdom, D family, furthermore, they use their influence to stop the Revolutionary[Dragon] to release him[D] even establish Shichibukai and Marine HQ. But mostly WG ashamed of their corrupt..
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And Ace was Arlongs shakespearean transvestite milkman?
Of course!Yes, exactly! XD Except, I'd use "is", but everyone's entitled to their own opinion, of course.
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Gerikhabarovsk: Im missing in your explanation who created the phoneglyphs. You mention them but there is noone who is really interested in passing on "the true history" in your explanation so far… just pointing it out.
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You know I just thought of this. Do you suppose that only a man of D can get to Raftel and that's why none of the emperor's have moved in on it? After all I doubt Oda would try to make it so only Luffy's crew can get to Raftel because the dangers were designed specifically for them.
Also more specifically I'm thinking that it has to be a man of D who's the Captain of his own crew because he'll make the best crew to get to Raftel which answers the question of why Whitebeard hasn't gotten there considering he's got Ace.
Also Dragon and Garp aren't interested in One Piece so that rules them out too.
So going by that theory there are TWO crews able to get to Raftel. Luffy's and Blackbeard's. Thus cementing further that Blackbeard will be the final enemy. This would also explain why Gold Roger was the only one who's ever made it there.
Hmmm, that's an interesting theory. Still, I do think making only Ds being able to go to Raftel would go against OP's theme of "anyone with a strong will can do anything" quite a bit, but that would make some sense out of things.
It doesn't make much sense to me how Whitebeard has been searching for 22 years, right behind Gold Roger, and still hasn't found One Piece yet. Unless he's intensely stupid or has terrible navigators or something (which is highly unlikely seeing as he's the "closest man to One Piece"), it seems quite a bit odd. This makes me wonder if One Piece is even an object, perhaps an intangible idea or something? >_>; If it turns out that OP is a reference to enlightenment or something, I dunno what the hell I'll do.
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Raftel is a Sky Island. And the Milky Dial will play a key role in reaching One Piece.
Also I think there will be an Emerald City in the sky too.
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Yeah the chaptes will probaly go to 1000 and then end. Maybe in chapter 980 Zorro will beat Mihawk and then there will be the rest of the final fights. Probabl zorro vs. Mihawk being second to last since Luffy is going to fight someone like Shanks or WB. Finally, in like chapter 995 they will be back at some city while they all just achived there dreams. Navy will come and Zorro will beat Tashigi and tell her to surpass him. A few people will escape but I bet Ussop, Luffy and Franky will all get caught. Luffy will be killed just like Gol D. Roger, Ussop always wanted to die while being a warrior and he probably will, Franky wants to fullfill Tom's dream and he did of making best ship in world. They will die in like 998. Finally, in last few chapters it will be like 10 years later. Everyone might reunite or it just might just show them and what they are currently doing with everyone somewhere in 30's. And maybe in last 2 pages or so it will leave with a little boy singing "I'm gonna be King of the Pirates…"
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@ultimateclima:
Raftel is a Sky Island. And the Milky Dial will play a key role in reaching One Piece.
Also I think there will be an Emerald City in the sky too.
Hmm, that's pretty interesting, too.
But still, if Luffy could reach a Sky Island, wouldn't you think Whitebeard could as well? Someone in their crew possesses knowledge of the technology to create Ace's DF-powered boat thing, and I'm sure there are many others in the crew with Devil Fruit powers, so wouldn't it be quite likely that they'd at least be able to launch Ace up there (judging from the fight with Smoker, he can at least stay in the air on his own for a while) and have him find a way for the others to get up as well, or something – if not have whoever created that DF boat develop some kind of new technology altogether that would help them get up there?
I dunno, it seems a bit weird to me that all those years have passed and they still haven't gotten there. >>;
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Well maybe it has something to do with what Gan Fall said about risk. Maybe Whitebeard wouldn't want to risk his crew to go up there. Who knows why. Maybe its just Whitebeard himself. Still dont know much about him.
or maybe they dont believe in sky island. Sure Roger went up there but that doesnt mean Whitebeard and his crew know it exists.
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You know I just thought of this. Do you suppose that only a man of D can get to Raftel and that's why none of the emperor's have moved in on it? After all I doubt Oda would try to make it so only Luffy's crew can get to Raftel because the dangers were designed specifically for them.
Also more specifically I'm thinking that it has to be a man of D who's the Captain of his own crew because he'll make the best crew to get to Raftel which answers the question of why Whitebeard hasn't gotten there considering he's got Ace.
So going by that theory there are TWO crews able to get to Raftel. Luffy's and Blackbeard's. Thus cementing further that Blackbeard will be the final enemy. This would also explain why Gold Roger was the only one who's ever made it there.
Dont really belive in the only a D can reach Raftel idea…
but there might be a reason why only Luffy at this time can reach Raftel:
we know 2 things about Gold Roger:- He (or someone in his crew) knew how to read and write in the language of the phone glyphs
- He had a ship made of the treasure tree Adam.
Luffy and his crew fill both those condions and we have no idea if any other crew currently sailing the seas does.
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That only a D can reach Raftel pretty much goes against Oda's concept of dreams.
In the world of One Piece, anyone who has a dream has an actual chance of achieveing it if they work hard enough to become stronger and braver. If only Ds can enter Raftel, it means that anyone who wants to become Pirate King but is not a D is doomed to failure. The argument "but only Ds dream of being Pirate King" was invalidated by the Baroque-ministory, where we saw that Crocodile also shared Luffy's dream, and by Whitebeard.
Talking of the Baroque-ministory, here's a romantic theory: Remember how cool Mr. 2 looked when he made his reappearance? He was wearing a suit much like Sanji's and had an aura of suaveness about him. My theory is that he fell in love with Sanji after their fight and was trying to imitate him.
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@Monkey:
That only a D can reach Raftel pretty much goes against Oda's concept of dreams.
In the world of One Piece, anyone who has a dream has an actual chance of achieveing it if they work hard enough to become stronger and braver. If only Ds can enter Raftel, it means that anyone who wants to become Pirate King but is not a D is doomed to failure. The argument "but only Ds dream of being Pirate King" was invalidated by the Baroque-ministory, where we saw that Crocodile also shared Luffy's dream, and by Whitebeard.
But the theory is based upon people asking why Whitebeard, Shanks, etc. haven't just gone to Raftel yet since they're so close to it.
Also I wasn't saying that you absolutely had to be a D but that only D's could reach Raftel because they would make the best crew possible to make it through whatever dangers surround Raftel itself.
If anything I was saying that D's probably have a higher chance of reaching Raftel than non-D people which is why people like Whitebeard who could get One Piece because they were on par with Roger haven't gone to Raftel to get it.
Not to mention that the only person who made it to Raftel WAS a D which cements it further.
I'm waiting to hear Whitebeard's reasons though as to why he hasn't gone after One Piece before discarding it though. Maybe he just wishes to keep the pirate age alive or something equally as simple, but it's still weird that Whitebeard who is on par with Roger can't get to Raftel or has at least not even tried to get there.
Which is why I brought up that theory. If D's are the only one's who can make the best crew to get through the dangers surrounding the island then to me at the moment it kinda makes sense…. Well more sense than thinking that Whitebeard or anyone just as strong hasn't tried going to Raftel because "they just don't feel like it."
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i still say its because WB cant read the phoneglyphs and doesnt have a treasure tree boat
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I imagine a emperor can easily muster up to cash for Adam wood if need be.
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@Aethos: Being a D hasn't been proven to provide you with super-recruiting skills either. Garp is a Marine, as was Saul, and Ace chose to be an underdog, Dragon may have that charisma you say, but he's using it to crumble governments, not to get to Raftel. You're just talking about Roger and Luffy in your theory.
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Luffy under went a lot of training as well when he was younger… So he wasn't always this strong.
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I imagine a emperor can easily muster up to cash for Adam wood if need be.
Yes probably… but have the treasure tree been availeble on the market for them (franky had been looking for quite some time i think)? have they truely been looking for it or have they thought their current boat was sturdy enough?
has enough treasure tree been on the market to build a big enough boat for them? from what i can tell TS is still a medium sized boat and the yonkou probably have boats rivaling biggas marine battleships in size.
do they know they need a treasure tree boat?
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I don't think the kind of wood your ship is made out of would really be a requirement in obtaining One Piece. Likewise, I think it would be pretty stupid if it were only Ds that would be able to obtain it. Gold Roger openly welcomed the world to come and search for it, not just people with that mysterious initial D.
But back to the wood, I think the only reason Adam wood was ever mentioned in conjunction with Gold Roger was to say that it was the most sturdy wood ever, having allowed Roger's crew to reach Raftel and all that. I'm sure all of the Yonkou have extremely sturdy ships, perhaps reinforced with steel and things like that, or even also made of Adam wood – seriously, they're the bloody YONKOU, they could afford it. I'm sure they know it exists, too, they've probably got some of the world's best shipwrights on board, even if it's against their will. (hey, they're pirates >_>)
Whatever trial it is that's keeping the Yonkou away from One Piece, is, I'm sure, not just some silly requirement. (Though if it is, I'm betting it's the ability to read Poneglyphs, Robin's the only one left in the whole world who can do that, remember?) I'm sure Raftel is extreeeeeemely hard to find, if Whitebeard's been searching for it on Roger's tail for the past twenty-two years…
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@Monkey:
@Aethos: Being a D hasn't been proven to provide you with super-recruiting skills either. Garp is a Marine, as was Saul, and Ace chose to be an underdog, Dragon may have that charisma you say, but he's using it to crumble governments, not to get to Raftel. You're just talking about Roger and Luffy in your theory.
Depends. I didn't see you saying anything about Blackbeard, but it's always been a point that D's always have a strange kind of charisma to them that really makes them leaders. Sure Ace is an underling of Whitebeard, but he leads part of Whitebeard's forces. Sure Saulo was an underling of the World Government but he was a friggin' vice admiral and as for Garp well you know how much of a wild card he is in concern to the world government.
Also why would Whitebeard have to search for Raftel when they know where it is? If it's something as simple as the log pose only points in the direction of Raftel once ever 10 years then I can understand that or if it's the poneglyph thing, but then if it's just a matter of poneglyph's then nobody except Luffy would be able to get to Raftel so how is that theory any more fair to anyone else in the world then the whole "only a D can reach Raftel" one?
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because the oharas (which could teach everyone to read the glyphs or travel the seas themselves) died after Roger?
or were you talking about odas "anyone can make it" policy rather then the story and rogers invitation?
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because the oharas (which could teach everyone to read the glyphs or travel the seas themselves) died after Roger?
or were you talking about odas "anyone can make it" policy rather then the story and rogers invitation?
Oda's "anyone can make it" policy. Basically you're saying you can only read Raftel by reading the poneglyphs. Well then you just basically said that the only crew capable of reaching One Piece is the straw hat's since no one else in the world can read them except for Robin.
At the beginning of my whole theory I stated that I doubt Oda would pull something where the dangers surrounding Raftel would be specifically designed for Luffy's crew and no other. This is why I think my theory makes a little more sense because even though it still cancels out anyone who isn't a D it doesn't mean that Luffy's crew is the only crew that can make it there considering Blackbeard's crew could also make it there cementing him as Luffy's final challenge to claim One Piece.
Also this means though that Garp could potentially make it to Raftel as well if he's going to pursue Luffy there. Where we might see some closure between Garp, Coby, and Luffy even if that means Luffy giving himself up and starting a new pirate age the way Gold Roger did.
In that case if One Piece is enlightenment and it's "the adventure and the friends you make." then that even more would give Luffy incentive to pass it on to the next generation by going out the way Gold Roger did.
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My Rio Poneglyph Theory:
The Rio Poneglyph reveals that the 5 Elder Stars are hundreds of years old, not actually human (from another planet), and that they engaged in a 100 year war with the Ancient Civilization known as Shandia. The Poneglyph explains the details of that war.
The Shandians, extremely advanced at the time, invented the Pluton and other weapons to take down the 5 Elder Stars as they threatened to rule the planet. The weapons were so powerful, they were able to obliterate an entire land mass into the sea, and during their 100 year battle, entire continents disappeared as Shandia battled against the 5 Elder Stars (thus explaining the dominantly-oceanic world). The 5 Elder Stars are extremely weakened by the weapons, but somehow gain an advantage over the Shandians that causes the weapons to be hidden and that the Shandians are mass executed to the point where no one is left on the island but children, raised briefly by the Elder Stars that create their current history. After this, the 5 Elder Stars establish the World Government and proceed to erase all records of the past 100 years except for the indestructible Poneglyphs, which were created by the Shandians before the end of the war.
My "Zoro/Mihawk/Tashigi" theory:
Zoro will surpass Mihawk about 75% of the way through the series, and agrees to stay with Luffy in exchange for helping him accomplish his dream. However, Tashigi rises up to challenge Zoro, determined to take away his Wado Ichimonji. Then we learn one of two things: 1) Tashigi is Kuina's long lost twin, or 2) Tashigi IS Kuina, through a series of brainwashings and that her death was a coverup or something. Then near the end of the series, Zoro and Tashigi battle to determine the best swordsman in the world.
My "Raftel and the Strawhats" theory:
The Strawhats will reach Raftel somewhere around when One Piece is 80% completed. This is where Robin will read the Rio Poneglyph (see earlier theory), and Luffy starts looking for One Piece. However, a few pirate ships happened to follow the Strawhats to Raftel, including the Buggy Pirates, the Blackbeard Pirates, and Smoker's ship. In order to be proclaimed the Pirate King, Luffy has to defeat Buggy, Teach, and Smoker. However, after Luffy does so, another ship happened to be following the Strawhats, which turns out to be Shank's ship. Shanks and Luffy meet up and Luffy offers to give back the strawhat to Shanks. Shanks refuses and challenges Luffy to a fight over who gets to keep the hat.
My "near the end of the series" theory:
Coby will have attained the rank of Admiral in the Marines, however, after learning of the true history of the World Government (see the Rio Poneglyph theory), he questions his place in the world. Dragon and his revolutionaries start a war that pits the 3 balances of power (world government, Shichibukai, and the Yonkou) that cause the 3 to defeat each other. Dragon then leads the final fight against the 5 Elder Stars, whom recruit Admiral Aokiji and Vice-Admiral Garp, along with their other highest-ranking officials. At some point the Strawhats also get involved in this fight, and by the end of it all, the World Government and the 5 Elder Stars are defeated and dismantled. The world is now threatened by chaos, which is then brought together by Luffy, the recently-crowned Pirate King.
Those are my theories, sort of. It'd take me much longer to speculate on how I think everything would play out, but go ahead and start picking away at my wild-eyed theories.
But I refuse to believe that Luffy is going to be executed in Loguetown, or by the Marines at all for that matter. The Execution platform got destroyed, anyway. Besides, I think his death would put an end to the Age of Pirates and bring on that stupid New Age that Flamingo wants.
All my opinion, but heh. . .yeah.
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Oda's "anyone can make it" policy. Basically you're saying you can only read Raftel by reading the poneglyphs. Well then you just basically said that the only crew capable of reaching One Piece is the straw hat's since no one else in the world can read them except for Robin.
I disagree. Learning to read Poneglyphs is something that everyone has the potential to do, it's just gotten more difficult to do so after the annihilation of Ohara. Being a D is something you're born as, therefore against Oda's "strive for your dreams" motto. While I don't think reading Poneglyphs will necessarily be the key to One Piece, it's still a far better requisite than being born in a certain family.
At the time of Roger's death Ohara still existed. Any pirate crew who explored long enough would have been able to reach Ohara and get themselves a capable archaeologist, therefore fulfilling the requirements.
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@Gerchak:
Shanks and Luffy meet up and Luffy offers to give back the strawhat to Shanks. Shanks refuses and challenges Luffy to a fight over who gets to keep the hat.
Heheh, I'd like to see that. :D Sounds like something Shanks would do, and man, would that fight be amazing…
As for your "near the end of the series" theory, I wasn't really clear, do you mean Luffy and Dragon team up to defeat the WG or what? Just curious as to what you meant~
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From reading the whole series… My conclusion what the meaning of D is seems to have been forgotten much like the Poneglyphs. Its probaberly been around for years but the mean has gotten lost just as the language of the Poneglpyhs.
I expect the Poneglyphs mystery to be solved and done before the reveiling of the meaning of D since one is already process and the other is still being guessed upon. :/
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From reading the whole series… My conclusion what the meaning of D is seems to have been forgotten much like the Poneglyphs. Its probaberly been around for years but the mean has gotten lost just as the language of the Poneglpyhs.
I expect the Poneglyphs mystery to be solved and done before the reveiling of the meaning of D since one is already process and the other is still being guessed upon. :/
Hmm… I disagree, because I'm quite sure the mystery surrounding the Poneglyphs and the Void Century is quite larger than the mystery of the initial D, and the series' biggest mystery is something that should be revealed last, hm? We do know less about the D than we do the Poneglyphs, but the lost records of a hundred years would certainly hold more information than one single, tiny letter... even if the D is horribly important.
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Hmm… I disagree, because I'm quite sure the mystery surrounding the Poneglyphs and the Void Century is quite larger than the mystery of the initial D, and the series' biggest mystery is something that should be revealed last, hm? We do know less about the D than we do the Poneglyphs, but the lost records of a hundred years would certainly hold more information than one single, tiny letter... even if the D is horribly important.
Unless the initial D actually DOES tie into the poneglyph's and void century.
I disagree. Learning to read Poneglyphs is something that everyone has the potential to do, it's just gotten more difficult to do so after the annihilation of Ohara. Being a D is something you're born as, therefore against Oda's "strive for your dreams" motto. While I don't think reading Poneglyphs will necessarily be the key to One Piece, it's still a far better requisite than being born in a certain family.
At the time of Roger's death Ohara still existed. Any pirate crew who explored long enough would have been able to reach Ohara and get themselves a capable archaeologist, therefore fulfilling the requirements.
But considering how secretive Ohara was about studying the poneglyphs (secretive enough to threaten Robin about taking away her license) who's to say they would have taught anyone since they would fear said pirates would just alert the marines to it anyways?
However, let's say the Oharaian's would do it. Why doesn't Whitebeard at least have someone who could read the poneglyph's and why is Robin referred to as "the only person who can?" If Robin is the only person who can which is why the world government wanted her that means right there that no one else can read the poneglyph's.
So I still say that the D requisite is better because by using the poneglyph requisite you basically narrow it down to only Luffy's crew being able to get to Raftel. So your requisite in a way is potentially just as bad as you claim mine to be. Except that in a way it's even worse because then Luffy can take all the time in the world getting to Raftel because no one else but him will ever actually get to it.
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But the point is that in the end only Luffys crew should be able to reach Raftel, since no one is better qualified to be Pirate King than Luffy. That's why they all strive to be the best at what they do.
Your requisite is worse because the principle of it goes against the moral of the story. Learning a language is still a tad easier than being born in a certain family.
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As for your "near the end of the series" theory, I wasn't really clear, do you mean Luffy and Dragon team up to defeat the WG or what? Just curious as to what you meant~
Heh, I was pretty tired last night, and so I didn't get to explain what I meant about that.
I believe that Dragon is going to recruit the Strawhats to help him defeat the WG, in exchange for Dragon saving Luffy's life back in Loguetown. This will happen after the Strawhats have reached Raftel and Robin has read the Rio Poneglyph. She will relay the information on what the Poneglyph says and Dragon will send his revolutionaries to spread the word across the Grand Line and the 4 seas. The WG will get wind of Dragon's plan and the 5 Elder Stars themselves will lead a fleet equivalent of 4 Buster Calls to destroy Dragon, the Strawhats, and any other recruits that Dragon acquires. The men running the ships will include Aokiji, Scarface, Garp, Coby, and Helmeppo (the latter two ascending to the ranks of Vice-Admirals). In this battle, Dragon's true power is revealed and the Revolutionaries and the Strawhats engage in battle against the Vice-Admirals, Admiral Aokiji, and the 5 Elder Stars. At this point in the story, I believe the penultimate point of the fight will be Robin's death by one of the 5 elder stars.
Yes, I believe that one of the Strawhats is going to die. And who better than Robin, who has fulfilled her dreams of finding nakama and reading the poneglyphs at this point. Her death will drive Luffy into such a rage that he activates Gear 5th (I think he'll reach that by the end of the series), which makes him so powerful he destroys every ship in each of the 4 Buster Calls in one move, and takes down the Elder Stars alongside Dragon.
Then, with the Elder Stars removed from power, chaos threatens to ensue across the planet. Luffy is declared the Pirate King and is immediately challenged by Coby. And then their fight begins. How does it end? I don't know.
That's a longer explanation of my theory, anyway.
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And of course, at some point in the series, Sanji finds All Blue. We can't forget that.
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Someone has already died that's significant enough to cause Luffy to fly into a rage: His brother, Ace.
Actually, I had a dream about this: that Blackbeard would kill Whitebeard and find One Piece first, and then all the pirates would show up as Blackbeard takes up the mantle of Pirate King. In a rage, Luffy will fight Blackbeard, but get sucked inside his black hole. Then Shanks, stepping up to the plate, will hit Blackbeard so hard (with his fist, no less), causing him to eject Luffy. Luffy, having seen Ace's dead body inside Blackbeard, will go into an uncontrollable rage and proceed to pummel Blackbeard so much that he finally collapses. However, Luffy, exhausted from the battle, will collapse too. Shanks will say something along the lines of, "The same thing happened… 22 years ago...", and all the pirates will watch as the largest BC in existence surrounds the island. Luffy will order everyone to flee, but the crew will refuse. Luffy then orders Shanks to take Blackbeard to safety (even though he's badly wounded and is the enemy), and then has every other pirate depart the island.
The final scene I saw depicted all 11 Strawhats readying their weapons, about to fight the entire Marine HQ.
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Yeah, and I had a dream that I'd eaten some weird DF where my body could become thinner than strings or strands of hair (thus virtually invisible) and somehow I knocked Blackbeard out and stole his raft, and Ace escaped, and I had to chase him down to Water 7 while running away from BB, who followed me over a waterfall of manga magazine books as I moved the raft with my DF powers somehow, even though my legs were submersed in water…
But then, I landed on an island where random Marines kept challenging me to Pokemon battles for god knows what reason, and I had to run away from them... Eventually, I got to Water 7, where Garp was attacking Luffy's crew, who were on the Going Merry, and Ace's boat was floating nearby… and then I woke up.
Yeah.
Just 'cause you dreamt it doesn't mean it's gonna happen. XD
I'd be crazy to post one of my dreams as a theory…
I'm a lurker. I don't really post much. So… I'm not really sure what to put as my signature.
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Yeah, and I had a dream that I'd eaten some weird DF where my body could become thinner than strings or strands of hair (thus virtually invisible) and somehow I knocked Blackbeard out and stole his raft, and Ace escaped, and I had to chase him down to Water 7 while running away from BB, who followed me over a waterfall of manga magazine books as I moved the raft with my DF powers somehow, even though my legs were submersed in water…
But then, I landed on an island where random Marines kept challenging me to Pokemon battles for god knows what reason, and I had to run away from them... Eventually, I got to Water 7, where Garp was attacking Luffy's crew, who were on the Going Merry, and Ace's boat was floating nearby… and then I woke up.
Yeah.
Just 'cause you dreamt it doesn't mean it's gonna happen. XD
I'd be crazy to post one of my dreams as a theory…
Pfft, you're just mad cause my dream has Ace dead in it. XD
But nah, it was less of dream and more of a concept I had in my mind. I don't want someone to tell Luffy Ace is dead, because that would lessen the impact. I want Luffy to find out on his own, which will accelerate his rage toward Blackbeard. If Shanks arm had been eaten by the Seaking and Luffy was simply told about it, do you think it would've mattered as much?
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@Fire Fist:
Pfft, you're just mad cause my dream has Ace dead in it. XD
But nah, it was less of dream and more of a concept I had in my mind. I don't want someone to tell Luffy Ace is dead, because that would lessen the impact. I want Luffy to find out on his own, which will accelerate his rage toward Blackbeard. If Shanks arm had been eaten by the Seaking and Luffy was simply told about it, do you think it would've mattered as much?
Aww crap, you got me. XD;
But honestly, even if Ace was dead, do you really think Blackbeard would leave his dead body rotting away in his stomach? It's gonna be at least a few months before the Strawhats reach Raftel, and um… yeah. I mean, I know the guy looks kinda haggard, but that's just gross. >__>; I'd think Blackbeard, with a dead Ace, would at least take him out of his belly and toss him into the sea, if not turn him into the WG to become Shichibukai... the guy has some common sense, y'know.
And plus, I don't really believe the WG can reach Raftel. If they could, wouldn't they have destroyed it (or at least sunk it into the sea if it's made of Poneglyph-like material) already? I mean yeah, I know the Yonkou are in the way and all, but even without them – Raftel was there when Roger got there, so I assume if the WG could have got there so they could blow the place up already, they would have. Perhaps when the Strawhats leave Raftel they could come across enormous fleets of Marine ships, but I don't think those guys can reach Raftel…
@Gerchak:
Heh, I was pretty tired last night, and so I didn't get to explain what I meant about that….
That… actually is a pretty good theory. I must say I quite like it.
The only problem I have with it is Robin's death... I don't really have a problem with the idea of one of the Strawhats dying at the end, but Robin dying would defeat the entire purpose of everything at Enies Lobby. It took so much for Robin to gain her will to live back, and killing her off after all of that would destroy the purpose of what Saulo told her entirely.
He told her that she would find nakama that would protect her… and if those nakama fail, and Robin just dies, well… I don't really think it would serve Robin's message; that even if the world is against you, there is always hope, and there will always be someone for you to protect you when you need it most.
I would love to see Dragon and Luffy interaction, especially as a team; and see Luffy face off against a serious, much much stronger Coby someday, though. :happy:
Unless the initial D actually DOES tie into the poneglyph's and void century.
Actually, I think this too. ^^; I just think that we, the readers, will know at least generally what the initial D means before all of the information about the Void Century, even if the Strawhats don't… via flashbacks, or other characters in other places, or something. And so at some point when the D is super important to the story, and the Strawhats are just completely confused, we'll all be going "Hey, it's THIS! It's this!! Just... talk to this one character who's totally your enemy and ask them about it! Trust me on this one!" until they figure it out for themselves...
And you really do make a point on the Poneglyphs, since Robin is the only one left who can read them, it wouldn't really be fair for that to be part of the trial to get there... I still think there are definitely Poneglyphs on Raftel though... they might even be One Piece itself. :3
Perhaps that's part of why Roger challenged everyone to come and get it from him -- there weren't many who could make use of it that could make the voyage, anyway!
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Aww crap, you got me. XD;
But honestly, even if Ace was dead, do you really think Blackbeard would leave his dead body rotting away in his stomach? It's gonna be at least a few months before the Strawhats reach Raftel, and um… yeah. I mean, I know the guy looks kinda haggard, but that's just gross. >__>; I'd think Blackbeard, with a dead Ace, would at least take him out of his belly and toss him into the sea, if not turn him into the WG to become Shichibukai... the guy has some common sense, y'know.
And plus, I don't really believe the WG can reach Raftel. If they could, wouldn't they have destroyed it (or at least sunk it into the sea if it's made of Poneglyph-like material) already? I mean yeah, I know the Yonkou are in the way and all, but even without them – Raftel was there when Roger got there, so I assume if the WG could have got there so they could blow the place up already, they would have. Perhaps when the Strawhats leave Raftel they could come across enormous fleets of Marine ships, but I don't think those guys can reach Raftel…
Point taken with Ace, but the way I see Raftel, it's like a puzzle. A while ago B1B had this theory of Raftel being underneath Reverse mountain (the mountain being hollow), and only being accessible by navigating a series of tunnels that the D instinctively knew how to navigate, coupled with the fact that the tides only recede periodically (About every two decades).
While that may or may not be true, Raftel is clearly something that requires a puzzle to solve, be it by poneglyph, by heritage (The D), or simply by sheer determination and will.
Luffy, as brilliant as he is in combat, isn't exactly a logical thinker in much else, and having the marines catch up to them is as simple as having someone follow them or a spy report their position back to MHQ and leave markers. I doubt the Strawhats have a spy, but…
My other thought about Raftel is that it could be directly above Reverse Mountain, aka High West, as Gan Fall referred to it. Since Reverse Mountain reaches into the clouds and Raftel is on the West Side of Reverse Mountain (If you look at the maps, the Grand Line is entered from the East Side of Reverse Mountain).
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About that, is this really what you guys want?
I mean, having it coincidence [sp?] the SHs got to sail and take all their time, just to be exactly on the "era" when the tide comes?
Thinking carefully, it was never really like that with any time [expect Kuro Arc]. The SHs were the ones activating the arc from the simple fact they're there [half-true with Alabasta.. meh]. I don't think it's gonna be as cliche as coincidence in the most important moment in the series.About High West.. it's possible, yeah, but remember Gan Fall said it was an easier way when some people were bound to succeed. So how come only one crew tried it and appearantly they all passed?
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I bet the way to One Piece requires but one item. This item must be 50% straw, 45% hat, 5% red stripe.
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I bet the way to One Piece requires but one item. This item must be 50% straw, 45% hat, 5% red stripe.
Actually, I think part of it has to do with the Strawhat, but not because of it being 800 years old or some silliness, but rather because a certain piece of paper was sewn into it by Nami a few arcs back…
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But Ace was the one that gave him the paper. If Whitebeard knew the secret, he would've done it already. Even if he didn't, why would Ace know? Why would he tell Luffy? Ace wants to make Whitebeard the Pirate King, giving Luffy the key to One Piece certainly isn't helping his captain.
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But Ace was the one that gave him the paper. If Whitebeard knew the secret, he would've done it already. Even if he didn't, why would Ace know? Why would he tell Luffy? Ace wants to make Whitebeard the Pirate King, giving Luffy the key to One Piece certainly isn't helping his captain.
I see it like this:
The paper leads to Whitebeard's location (Evidence: Ace said it would help Luffy find him). Since Whitebeard is the "Closest to One Piece", part of getting to Raftel would be getting through Whitebeard's fleet.
Theory Time: Whitebeard (Not a D) Needs multiple Ds to get to Raftel. He sent Ace (one) to get Blackbeard (two), If Luffy goes there, that's three, And Garp and Dragon will obviously follow Luffy (Four, five). Last I checked, that's every living D. But Ace being dead might complicate things, since that leaves only four D's.
Unless, of course, my Goldrose theory is indeed true. :-D
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Someone has already died that's significant enough to cause Luffy to fly into a rage: His brother, Ace.
I'm aware there is the possibility of Ace dying but I dislike when people some how think they're belief is absolute and Oda will base the new story or make some sort of dramatic change due to their guess.
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I'm aware there is the possibility of Ace dying but I dislike when people some how think they're belief is absolute and Oda will base the new story or make some sort of dramatic change due to their guess.
Yeah, well, when the friggin panel says:
[The "Duel of Banaro Island" on the Grand Line.]
[This battle between two pirates]
[Would be labeled the trigger]
[that set off an enormous, unforgettable event in the future.]Dead or not, some shit is going down.
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I'm actually thinking that in a future cover page arc, all of CP9 other than Spandam and Lucci will get fired, Kaku and Califa both go back to Water 7 to their old jobs, Blueno becomes a doorman, Fukurou becomes a gossip columnist, Kumadori joins Buggy's crew, and Jyabura joins the Navy, falls in love with Hina, and becomes her third groupie along with Django and Fullbody.
SMERRS RIKE SPIRITSU!!!! BO-HAHAHAHA!!!
I strongly buy into the "Blueno Doa Doa'd everyone out of Enies Lobby" theory. It has several things going for it:
-Blueno was out of the game 20 chapters before any of the other CP9. He had time to regain consciousness and go "o.O" at the Buster Call announcement.
-Fits nicely into the "Nobody dies" mindset.
-Ensures wackiness as they're all together again
I believe that if the second quote did happen that Lucci would proceed to kill everyone and then himself for failing to do their job properly, so we might not see them come back ala Crocodile and company (btw, what chapters does one have to read to see that part (Croc, Mr 1, etc in jail)??) unless Oda does something lame and makes Lucci realize the error in his ways and has a mental breakdown over all the evil deeds he committed in order to carry out justice (when he killed all of the knights of that one kingdom he was sent to when he was younger).
BTW, did anyone ever notice a growing trend of characteristics showing up in the SH crew as they acquired more…crew?
Luffy: Gluttony
Zoro: Sloth
Nami: Greed
Usopp: Pride
Sanji: LustThat is until Chopper and Robin broke that (and Usopp doesn't completely bring a complete definition of the sin "Pride" and Sanji is a "gentleman"...).
Just something I noticed that is rather irrelevant...:p.
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Here's my theory:
The creators of the WG were in fact pirates. And a pirate's greatest rival, is another pirate. Thus, this newly formed government spread the word of "justice" to justify the eradication of all pirates.
This also explains the zeal with which the WG persecutes anyone who calls themselves pirates, indifferently of if their actions are good or evil. This is also why the WG covers up the void century, since they would lose alot of support from other countries if their shady past was ever exposed.
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Here's something for those people that believe that the end is the beginning, or Reverse Mountain is where one piece is.
One PIece could be in the sky, and the milky dial will be able to lead them there from the Top of Reverse Mountain. Remember how milky dials seem to work in the sky only? Well I'm pretty sure that the top of reverse mountain was above the clouds. Well in the anime its confirmed and i'm pretty sure in the manga So just use the milky dial to get to the sky on reverse mountain and BOOM one piece.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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New theory:
Usopp will die on a desert island a proud man and say he lived his life proud because most of Usopp's predictions come true.
Sure Oda won't probably kill off anyone human, but it sure would be great foreshadowing on his part.
And to be honest, it wasn't really one of Usopp's "stories" to Kaya, so there is even more proof that it wouldn't happen. Though if it did, then great foreshadowing by Oda like I said up in the previous line.
