Back to topic, I think the way that Mihawk can use his black sword must be that he like puts himself into the mind that Zoro does when he uses Asura.
About what shanks and garp said and asura
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Since we're talking about Mihawk…
I think that his hawk eyes can be used as part of his combat abilities. Probaly not against the really big guys but against more "normal" pirates. You know how Shanks has that spirit thing, I believe that Mihawk can do that with a stare. Like if you look into his eyes you tremble and fall to your knees.
Now why didnt he use them against Kriegs people then?
Well like Shanks I think you have to have to be serious with a killing intent and Mihawk only chased Krieg for amusement. I think that he can strike so much fear into his opponent with his eyes. (In a way sort of like Itachi from Naruto but without the illusions).
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And some people thinked that revolutionarys are "Great Power". That was pretty amazing.
Back to topic, please. I don't want to get banned like WHITEBEARD
Well you know their are ONLY three powers….....the revolutionaries are NOT one of them.
We are on topic, You won't get banned for speculating....
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Revolutionaries go outside the context of the Three Powers. Basically, the powers are pirate, marines, and the government. The Revolutionaries aren't pirates, and they hate the WG and the Marines are part of the WG.
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Well you know their are ONLY three powers….....the revolutionaries are NOT one of them.
We are on topic, You won't get banned for speculating....
Hey, I didn't said that. Somebody else did.
Just wonder that how poverful they are. Dragon is a powerhouse, that is clear. But what about others? They got big army.
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Hey, I didn't said that. Somebody else did.
Just wonder that how poverful they are. Dragon is a powerhouse, that is clear. But what about others? They got big army.
We haven't seen Dragon or his so called army….he could be weak and right now he is not even thought of.
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We haven't seen Dragon or his so called army….he could be weak and right now he is not even thought of.
Got to admit Dragons powers look like childs play now that we've seen Whitebeard shanks and Blackbead in action.
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Got to admit Dragons powers look like childs play now that we've seen Whitebeard shanks and Blackbead in action.
I agree with you, I don't even see Dragon along with the likes of them.
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Got to admit Dragons powers look like childs play now that we've seen Whitebeard shanks and Blackbead in action.
We haven't seen his powers. What we have seen is that Smoker scares him and that he has a title "Worlds most Dangerous Criminal".
He is a son of Garp, who is a monster.
Dragon's son is Luffy. Luffy is monster too. Trust me, Dragon is powerful.And he has huge army behind him.
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We haven't seen his powers. What we have seen is that Smoker scares him and that he has a title "Worlds most Dangerous Criminal".
He is a son of Garp, who is a monster.
Dragon's son is Luffy. Luffy is monster too. Trust me, Dragon is powerful.And he has huge army behind him.
And?? Dragon has shown nothing to be named with the likes Of the characters that ONEinchPUNCH named.
ONEinchPUNCH I love your sig!!!!!!! LOL! …........
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World most dangerous criminal is his threat to the government, you'd expect this since he's trying to start a revolution.
Dragon to me seems be be more of a thinker, luffy got the most will, garp got brute strength and that leaves intelligence. He's eluded being captured all these years and has been creating some type of army right under the WG's noses. The WG still haven't caught him, this shows me he is very smart.
I think he is using luffy to kick start his revolution, luffy has caused more chaos in a few months, than there has been within the past 20.
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And?? Dragon has shown nothing to be named with the likes Of the characters that ONEinchPUNCH named.
We haven't seen him in action. We can't possibly know that how strong he is.
Dragon to me seems be be more of a thinker, luffy got the most will, garp got brute strength and that leaves intelligence.
I repeat, we haven't seen enough to judge him.
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@AD-HD:
We haven't seen him in action. We can't possibly know that how strong he is. Dragon has a title "Worlds most Dangerous Criminal".
I repeat, we haven't seen enough to judge him.
Who cares, Dragon as of now should NOT be mentioned with any world power characters.
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Who cares, Dragon as of now should NOT be mentioned with any world power characters.
And why not? Dragon is a D. That itself screams that he is strong. All D's are strong physically. All of them. You can't argue against that.
I believe that he could take out Great World Powers.
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And why not? Dragon is a D. That itself screams that he is strong. All D's are strong physically. All of them. You can't argue against that.
I believe that he could take out Great World Powers.
So, alot of D.'s have had their @#$%& kicked. Dragon has shown nothing to take out a world power.
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Do you have evidence that he can't take out a world power?
Nope. You don't.So, alot of D.'s have had their @#$%& kicked
Alot? (ehm, two actually).
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Do you have evidence that he can't take out a world power?
Nope. You don't.Alot? (ehm, two actually).
You don't have any evidence that Dragon can take out a world power, his revolution is NOT even considered a GREAT power.
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You don't have any evidence that Dragon can take out a world power, his revolution is NOT even considered a GREAT power.
This the reality AD HD he isn't even considered a power. He works in secret not because he wants to, it's because he has to.
Now dragon will be strong but If he could stand up to the powers why isn't he?
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You don't have any evidence that Dragon can take out a world power
And vice versa. We are even.
his revolution is NOT even considered a GREAT power.
And that is why you think that he is a weakling? Dude…
Dragon is trying to destroy WG. What WG hold in is Shichibukais and Marine HQ.
He is exact opposite to 3 Great World Powers.
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This the reality AD HD he isn't even considered a power. He works in secret not because he wants to, it's because he has to.
Now dragon will be strong but If he could stand up to the powers why isn't he?
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And vice versa. We are even.
No we are not, I said don't bring up people we have yet to see in action.
And that is why you think that he is a weakling? Dude…
Dragon is trying to destroy WG. What WG hold in is Shichibukais and Marine HQ.
He is exact opposite to 3 Great World Powers.
That is not a weakness.When did I say dragon was weak? I said you saying that he can be on the level of the characters ONEinchPUNCH named was guess work….nothing more.
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Dragon isn't the opposite of the Three Powers. He hates the MHQ and the WG, and so do the Yonkou, the other Great Power.
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Hey, the Governemnt can't help it if they are too powerful!!!^^^ Not even the Emperors or Dragon has been able to take them down.
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The reason they aren't a great power is that the Revolutionaries are to secretative. they have no idea how many people they or even how strong everyone in it is.
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The revolutionaries would never be considered as one of the Great Powers, however powerful they are or get, for the simple fact that they are trying to undermine the WG and the balance, whilst the 3 powers maintain this balance.
Off topic: why are psolaras and WHITEBEARD banned?
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The revolutionaries would never be considered as one of the Great Powers, however powerful they are or get, for the simple fact that they are trying to undermine the WG and the balance, whilst the 3 powers maintain this balance.
Exactly. That is just my point.
Off topic: why are psolaras and WHITEBEARD banned?
I don't know about psolaras, but it is kinda obvious with WHITEBEARD.
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The revolutionaries would never be considered as one of the Great Powers, however powerful they are or get, for the simple fact that they are trying to undermine the WG and the balance, whilst the 3 powers maintain this balance.
Off topic: why are psolaras and WHITEBEARD banned?
Because they talked about irrelavent things though others might consider it very relevent like me.
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Exactly. That is just my point.
I don't know about psolaras, but it is kinda obvious with WHITEBEARD.
No, that was not your point. You were claiming that Dragon is as powerful as Whitebeard and Blackbeard and that Dragon's revolution can take out the World powers which is SPECULATION!
Get back on topic. Don't talk about other members, especially behind their backs, you have your crappy Dragon argument to worry about.
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The revolutionaries would never be considered as one of the Great Powers, however powerful they are or get, for the simple fact that they are trying to undermine the WG and the balance, whilst the 3 powers maintain this balance.
If they were as powerful as a power they would be part of the balance. The yonkou are completely against the WG, but they are a power. You aren't given a title of world power just because the WG decides it. It's just a known fact in the OP world that these 3 are the most powerful.
but it is kinda obvious with WHITEBEARD.
Is it? All I remember WHITEBEARD doing is, proving people wrong with canon info. Infact you're one of the many he continuosly proves wrong.
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No, that was not your point. You were claiming that Dragon is as powerful as Whitebeard and Blackbeard and that Dragon's revolution can take out the World powers which is SPECULATION!
I haven't never said that Dragon is as powerful as Whitebeard.
I just believe that he is on same level than some certain Shichibukais are.Get back on topic. Don't talk about other members, especially behind their backs, you have your crappy Dragon argument to worry about.
You just don't like Dragon, am I right?
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I haven't never said that Dragon is as powerful as Whitebeard.
I just believe that he is on same level than some certain Shichibukais are.You just don't like Dragon, am I right?
Your FANBOYISM believes that Dragon is on the Shichibukai's level. So if Dragon is better than shichibukai he is better than YOUR Emperors as well!
I like ALL characters in One Piece….........
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You guys are argueing over something that can't be proven right or wrong so what is the point of either?
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Dragon is the world's most wanted man. He must have a lot of power. If he didn't, the WG would just send an Admiral or someone else strong to OWN his ass.
He must be as strong as Aokiji… but the WG know little about him, except his goal and power. Plus, the WG probably know little about the people he works with. So they can't be sure how powerful the Revolutionaries actually are.
EDIT: Dragon is too mysterious... there are little facts about his power and plans, and the facts are too small.
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We as an AUDIENCE know nothing about his abilities. To say that he is on Aokiji's level is speculation.
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We as an AUDIENCE know nothing about his abilities. To say that he is on Aokiji's level is speculation.
I know.
We're all speculating here. You make it seem like I've just dropped a nuke. XD.
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Yeah, I don't like to speculate…...you did drop a nuke when you said Luffy and Zoro are NOT equal in strength.^^^
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Yeah, I don't like to speculate…...you did drop a nuke when you said Luffy and Zoro are NOT equal in strength.^^^
Don't invite THAT arguement… I get singled out. OIP probably has the best arguement... but it's still weak.
I'm waiting for a while before I get back to Luffy vs Zoro. Too early to tell. Let them fight again... =D.
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You just said that Canon is weak…...:wassat:^^
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You just said that Canon is weak…...:wassat:^^
No.
I'm saying that what Oda has provided us so far still leaves us in question.
You misinterpret everything wrong… that's why arguements with you guys is almost pointless.
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Most of you here misinterpret FACTS. Show me the evidence from the comic where it shows Luffy being stronger than Zoro?
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From what I gather
Luffy and Zoro are equal until we have further evidence.
Dragon is strong, but how strong?
we know he was able to stop Smoker, most likely own him if he wanted to. Smoker, if he could have would have arrested him in Loguetown but obviously couldnt. Smoker did tie Ace in Alabasta but the fight wasnt shown but its probaly ok to assume they were roughly equals.
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No.
I'm saying that what Oda has provided us so far still leaves us in question.
Not really, you just won't acknowledge it.
You misinterpret everything wrong… that's why arguements with you guys is almost pointless.
I call it how I see it 6 vs 6, an equal whiskey peak fight, constant quotes in the manga comaparing the two and zoro vs jabs and kaku at the same time.
Now if you ask me saying they aren't equal is a misinterpretation, if you give me a better reason. Instead of the usual there isn't enough info, when there clearly is enough.
When you give me these better reasons we have something to discuss, until then luffy=zoro.
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Not really, you just won't acknowledge it.
I call it how I see it 6 vs 6, an equal whiskey peak fight, constant quotes in the manga comaparing the two and zoro vs jabs and kaku at the same time.
Now if you ask me saying they aren't equal is a misinterpretation, if you give me a better reason. Instead of the usual there isn't enough info, when there clearly is enough.
When you give me these better reasons we have something to discuss, until then luffy=zoro.
Tell me where in the manga it stated they were equal?
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Tell me where in the manga is stated they were equal?
I call it how I see it 6 vs 6, an equal whiskey peak fight, constant quotes in the manga comaparing the two and zoro vs jabs and kaku at the same time.
Now show me, where it shows they aren't equal.
Oda's Direct words in the red book have luffy and zoro on 6 for strength. That looks equal to me and don't say that isn't canon. Oda drew his manga and then gave you the information of the manga in the red book.
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Listen guys - if Oda said it at any point in One Piece history, it's true until he says otherwise. NOT the other way around. If you want to believe that information about Luffy and Zoro is outdated, that's your prerogative, but you can't make any argument for it until new information is presented. It's completely pointless.
I think you guys should read this again.
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I call it how I see it 6 vs 6, an equal whiskey peak fight, constant quotes in the manga comaparing the two and zoro vs jabs and kaku at the same time.
Now show me, where it shows they aren't equal.
Oda's Direct words in the red book have luffy and zoro on 6 for strength. That looks equal to me and don't say that isn't canon. Oda drew his manga and then gave you the information of the manga in the red book.
Equal Whiskey Peak fight means nothing. The fight was broken up, so it doesn't 100% prove they're equal. Lucci was kicking Luffy's ass for the first half of their fight. Then the fight changed.
Jabs and Kaku were getting in each other's way, and hardly being serious (constant breaks and argueing). Zoro was running away and dodging attacks. He wasn't exactly attacking and hurting them.
I'm not saying Luffy and Zoro arean't equal, I'm just denying that it's 100% true, since what Oda has provided us makes it less than 100% clear.
Oda based their powers out of the number SIX. Surely if Oda was being serious he would give them some sort of attribute levels that go up to over 1000. Like a power level. The chart was just done without great detail… just to overview the attributes each fighter has. Luffy and Zoro would both get 6 in my chart too... since Zoro isn't a five.
If it was out of 1000... there'd be difference.
EDIT: Agree'd with CosmicDebris about waiting for more about Luffy and Zoro.
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Do you understand that your assumptions means nothing? Oda's data books has Luffy and Zoro equal at 6. The data book is NOT wrong because Zoro and Luffy's battle at whiskey peak BACKS IT UP!!!! they were equal.
Since you agreed with Cosmic Debris then you also say they are equal.^^^
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Do you understand that your assumptions means nothing? Oda's data books has Luffy and Zoro equal at 6. The data book is NOT wrong because Zoro and Luffy's battle at whiskey peak BACKS IT UP!!!! they were equal.
Since you agreed with Cosmic Debris then you also say they are equal.^^^
You going to argue this too sabz?
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Do you understand that your assumptions means nothing? Oda's data books has Luffy and Zoro equal at 6. The data book is NOT wrong because Zoro and Luffy's battle at whiskey peak BACKS IT UP!!!! they were equal.
Since you agreed with Cosmic Debris then you also say they are equal.^^^
OIP, I didn't want to argue with this, but I will… even though it ignores what I said. This is a one-man arguement... at least READ MY POST.
I NEVER SAID THAT THE DATA BOOK WAS WRONG. I said Oda most likely didn't put great detail into it... putting 6 as the highest attribute number. Had he done something like a PL list, that ranges from high number over 1000, I doubt he'd class them equal... or he MAY not class them equal. The chart you guys are talking about isn't the strongest of evidence.
I explained Whiskey Peak... just... read above will you. Another comment blatenly ignoring my post, and I'm outta this debate.
Again, if you would just read my post, I believe I said I agree with CD about waiting longer for more info.
Y'know... I'm on the verge to just drop out of this debate... because you guys just ignore what I say. Even if you are right (which I believe you're not) you still ignore... so I'm wasting my time. You'll understand soon.
'nuff said.
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If Oda had wanted to show a difference in strength between Luffy and Zoro then he would have done. Stop giving all that balls about 1000 levels. It doesn't even matter who is strongest anyway, it has nothing to do with the story.
Boring arguement we have nearly every week here. Luffy and Zoro are considered equal because that is the information given by Oda. End. Of. Story.
