though i doubt thats gonna happen, i have no beefs with the voice actors of OP in any way
I don't with thejapanese, but the present-day English…. let's just say I stopped watching the second Sanji stepped into the picture. Luffy was perfect, but Zoro was a little weird, Nami was fine, Usopp was kind of SUPPOSED to be annoying, but Sanji... intolerable. My TV hasn't shown English One Piece since.
I was pretty disappoined when we found out that Brook is a swordsman, but oh well, what the heck. Actually, if he was fighting with his violin, it could have been pretty lame, who knows. Anyways, if this Ryuma guy is his shadow, does that mean that brook is "the famous samurai" previously spoken of?
Ryuma isn't Brook's shadow, his body just has his Brook's shadow so Ryuma is the dead body of the famous samurai.
I see, thank you.
@Bleak:
I mostly wanted to post to show folks my signature. Made it today after taking a heavy dosage of Jimi Hendrix
First of all, to respond to this, best banner ever! One of my favorite One Piece characters in the place of one of my favorite musicians. Genius.
That VA suggested for Brook, he sounds good for Brook's normal voice, but for some reason I can't imagine him pulling off "Yohoho!" the right way.
LOL I totally dig that sig :D
The Brook Experience
"Reality leaves alot to the imagination"
Brooke= Musician Nr. 1! x3
The job of a musician on a ship was always to bring fun and joy to the crew, no matter how bad the circumstances are. Look at Brooke: This guy is the happyness itself! o.o He would make the perfect musician ^^
Another note: It's interesting how often Brooke looks "in our direction" or "in the camera"… does this guy know that we're watching them? XD
!
This could be a nice running gag at the end of the arc:
Luffy: "Be my nakama!"
Brooke: "Hmm…" looks in reader's direction "What do you think, guys?"
Luffy: "... Brooke, there's nobody."
Brooke: "Ah, you wouldn't understand... yet. Yohohohoho!"
... I loved this gag in Monkey Island XD
Jeff the Killer: Go to sleep…Cavendish: Okay 8DJeff: Wha- WAIT, NO!
would be better if he just ended it in a skull joke instead of acctually breaking the fourth wall imo…
if you look at the brooke pics franky is always yelling at him
You're Right! The reason Brook is faceing us is must be because he is turning away from Frankys bad breath! =P
Franky better cut down on the cola…
Brooke= Musician Nr. 1! x3
The job of a musician on a ship was always to bring fun and joy to the crew, no matter how bad the circumstances are. Look at Brooke: This guy is the happyness itself! o.o He would make the perfect musician ^^Another note: It's interesting how often Brooke looks "in our direction" or "in the camera"… does this guy know that we're watching them? XD
! http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h88/Hisolein/One%20Piece%20Chapter-Pictures/brookeknows.jpg
Yeah i agree i have notice XD
Brooke= Musician Nr. 1! x3
The job of a musician on a ship was always to bring fun and joy to the crew, no matter how bad the circumstances are. Look at Brooke: This guy is the happyness itself! o.o He would make the perfect musician ^^
You, sir, have just boosted my confidence in Brooke joining the crew.
Brooke: Well what do you think, folks? Should I join or not? I bet this has become a real bone of contention with you fans. Yohohohoho! Bone Joke!
Speaking of Brook's chance's, I feel like tping the factors for and against him joining to see which is more likely at the moment(I think Oda's gonna have Brook join)
For:
-Musician
-Luffy wants him(Luffy gets what Luffy wants with the zombie tree as an exception)
-Has a past story
-Has a conflict which Luffy must resolve before letting him join(like some of the others)
-Brook can fight(though people like Paulie could fight, too)
-He wants to join
Against:
-Swordsman(though noone said there can be only one)
-Too soon(though earlier in One Piece new nakama came soon after the others)
-No flashbacks(has a past, but it's just in pieces with no flashback to tie it together… yet)
-No known dreams(He has one that will most likely be resolved during the arc, could have another, though)
I was slightly pessimistic about him joining before, typing this, though, fills me with hope again.
I imagine Franky's question concerned his dream Brook's dream might be related to the aim of his previous crew that died.
Didn't the spoiler for 456 say something about Brook's reason to live? It may not be it, but who knows. Guess we'll find out at the end…
My guess is Brooke's dream is to find
A) Romance
B) A specific place
C) Most likey, a place to call home and people to call nakama. Hmmm, I wonder where he's going to find that.
I think his promise to his nakama is to go back and visit laboon.. =P
the crew that had laboon lost a DBF and got their flag taken so they had to get a new flag… incase the flag doesnt match. =P
There are faint images of the flag and it looks something like a skull with an afro, hard to tell, though. Look at the sail at the chapter where they first meet.
I know Brook's dream. To see the panties of women around the world! Meh, it probably has to do with his career as a musician, though who knows really.
Actually, I know Brook's Dream. Toei told me it when he first appeared.
Brook's Dream…get ready for this
! To join Luffy's crew so that he may be put into a video game. After this happens, everyone will want to buy OP video games earning Toei a lot of money. No money will be made if he DOESN'T join their crew.
I know, it touches my heart too. Especially since Franky didn't help push sales as much we thought he would.
! Actually, the first part is my dream and the second part is Toei's dream. Sorry for the foiler. I'm sure someone will believe it though >_>; (Like the people who believed that Jabra was Robin's brother….)
Wagumo: That's the good part ^^ Davey Back Fights solve all those problems. Even if Brook wasnt originally part of the laboon crew he could have been lost to them, or them to his crew, without the flags needing to match. ^^
I dont really belive in the "Laboon crew" theory but it would be fun to eventually tie up that loose end. ^^
Brook is/was Black.
Now you know.
blinku um, what, Tony-kun?
ALLEZ CUISINE!!
Jokes aren't funny if you have to explain them to the single person that doesn't get it.
Brook is/was Black.
Now you know.
That made me lol =P
Okay people, I keep seeing here posts indicating Brooke is a swordsman.
I call undefined fact!
I've said it so many times before, just look how Brooke cut Talaran. Look at it [DON'T DROOL! SNAP OUT OF IT!].
Brooke cut him with a fine line from the top. Zoro would never do that, and I doubt he'd even bother reaching there. I doubt Brooke bothered reaching there.
I say he used sounds. Why would I say so?
While we know Ryuuma used Brooke's fighting style, we also know Ryuuma used an attack that only happened after Team Useless stepped for ten feet [or something like that].
I think many people already thought of it but I'd say it anyways, since there's no other way for an attack happen in the future with no time indication, without someone performing it, he must have made the attack and put the condition on it only to come true after ten feet's worth of walking sound have been made.
So that means Brooke is USING SOUND AS HIS WEAPON AND SWORD AS MERELY A TOOL. =O
Arrghhh I suck at English so much, but please bear with it. ^^
Rai VS Everyone
1-0 to…Rai XD
No, kiddin', but actually it could be right. If there's a chance he is not a swordsman, then why not believing this option, because I personally prefer Brooke as a man who fights with sound, or just anything besides swords.
honestly, I do see your point about "delayed reaction attacks". I can't wait for explanations. =3
It's also a long distance to cut, comparing it to Zoro. It's like he dragged his sword. That couldn't really happen. I'm thinking something along the lines of Rankyaku. The kick hits you a few seconds after because it takes time to travel.
Of course, I'm still very skeptical about the probability of this being the case. I don't think it is, myself. but it certainly is possible.
I dont think we will get an explanation for how the delay works. we will probably have to settle for knowing if its a slash with the sword or some kind of sound technique.
@Rai:
That made me lol =P
Okay people, I keep seeing here posts indicating Brooke is a swordsman.
I call undefined fact!I've said it so many times before, just look how Brooke cut Talaran. Look at it [DON'T DROOL! SNAP OUT OF IT!].
Brooke cut him with a fine line from the top. Zoro would never do that, and I doubt he'd even bother reaching there. I doubt Brooke bothered reaching there.
I say he used sounds. Why would I say so?While we know Ryuuma used Brooke's fighting style, we also know Ryuuma used an attack that only happened after Team Useless stepped for ten feet [or something like that].
I think many people already thought of it but I'd say it anyways, since there's no other way for an attack happen in the future with no time indication, without someone performing it, he must have made the attack and put the condition on it only to come true after ten feet's worth of walking sound have been made.
So that means Brooke is USING SOUND AS HIS WEAPON AND SWORD AS MERELY A TOOL. =OArrghhh I suck at English so much, but please bear with it. ^^
This is far-fetched and unlikely. If Zoro's swords can unleash full whirlwinds, attack from a range with air slahes and create illusions, there's absolutely no reason why Brook can't do the same. Swords in One Piece are used to do epic things. Mihawk didn't have to jump when he cut Krieg's ships in half and yet his cuts still had to reach very high vertically.
Seriously, I find it lame that you're trying to defend sound-based moves using the direction of the cut as an argument. How is sound vertical? Sound waves spread in spheres and need some kind of vibration to actually be sound. Brook's cut was clean, there was no shaking of the floor or blurred vision or sfx to hint at sound. And we've seen it twice, Ryuuma used it first and still there were no hints that it was anything but a sword-move.
The delayed attack has been done dozens of times in shonen (I bet you can find an example in Rurouni Kenshin) and it's always been explained as just having a kickass technique with a sword, which is good enough for shonen logic. There's no need for a sonic explanation when a simple sword-cut could do just the same thing.
Sure, Brook doesn't use swords 100% the same way as Zoro, but that's a given, since Zoro uses three swords and Brook only one. Your theory has no ground.
"To expresso or to latte, that is the question: Whether 'tis tastier on the buds to choose white mocha over plain, or to take a cup to go. Or a mug to stay, or extra cream or have nothing, and by opposing them, end one's heartache: To froth, to sprinkle: perchance to drink!" Member of AIDS!
We actually don't have a clue how Krieg cut Mihawk's Galleons. All we know is that he did it, and we see him approach afterward. He very well could have jumped if he needed to. Maybe his shoes ate devil fruits. XD
I'd like to think that Brooke fights with music. It's akin to Midvalley the Hornfreak (the Maximum version, not the crappy anime version of him) and how he used music to blow up Zazie the Beast's original form. Hoppered the Gauntlet commented on how he could pick out the tiniest vibration from a cacophony of noise, and it scared the shit out of Hoppered.
That said, We never saw Brooke's Shikomizue fully unsheathed. Instead of an actual cane-sword, it could possibly be a vibrating saw or a tuning fork, which he reveals after singing, and then shuts it, colliding the resonance and slicing a straight line through his opponent.
Though it's a bit over-the-top (even for Oda), it would be sheer brilliance.
We actually don't have a clue how Krieg cut Mihawk's Galleons.
'roids. Or skill.
I'd like to think that Brooke fights with music. It's akin to Midvalley the Hornfreak (the Maximum version, not the crappy anime version of him) and how he used music to blow up Zazie the Beast's original form. Hoppered the Gauntlet commented on how he could pick out the tiniest vibration from a cacophony of noise, and it scared the shit out of Hoppered
Anything but swords or "sound". That's horribly lame.
Except brown noise.
Pants-eater, than how do you expect him to fight? listen, if it was some kind of a Jigglypuff style, singing and making you numb, that was totally lame. but that's not the case, and if he is fighting with sound, it's much more cooler than that. it's like a sword techniqe, but it's not. it's delaying, just like the delay of a thunder. I really prefer that with any kind of fighting, specially fighting with swords.
Guys guys guys. You are all wrong. Brook never acctually cut Taralan.
what he did was before he left TS he stole namis panties.
After that he looked for Absolom so he could bribe him with Namis panties.
So what really happened was that Absolom (while invisible) cut Taralan up. And then went back to his assigned tasks pretending he knew nothing about it. (He's sly that Absolom)
So there is no "Delay attack" and there is no "Soundbased attack". Hell Brook is even more likely to cut himself then his opponent while waveing his sword around. What he really uses to fight people is his Skull jokes, which is why he cant defeat Ryuuma since he is immune to them.
(Yes Absolom was also hiding out in Hogbacks lab to knock team usopp out when Ryuuma attacked)
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
Guys guys guys. You are all wrong. Brook never acctually cut Taralan.
what he did was before he left TS he stole namis panties.
After that he looked for Absolom so he could bribe him with Namis panties.
So what really happened was that Absolom (while invisible) cut Taralan up. And then went back to his assigned tasks pretending he knew nothing about it. (He's sly that Absolom)So there is no "Delay attack" and there is no "Soundbased attack". Hell Brook is even more likely to cut himself then his opponent while waveing his sword around. What he really uses to fight people is his Skull jokes, which is why he cant defeat Ryuuma since he is immune to them.
(Yes Absolom was also hiding out in Hogbacks lab to knock team usopp out when Ryuuma attacked)
Is this supposed to be a rile against the "Brook is a swordsman"-theory? Because the sound thing is way farther out there.
"To expresso or to latte, that is the question: Whether 'tis tastier on the buds to choose white mocha over plain, or to take a cup to go. Or a mug to stay, or extra cream or have nothing, and by opposing them, end one's heartache: To froth, to sprinkle: perchance to drink!" Member of AIDS!
@Monkey:
Is this supposed to be a rile against the "Brook is a swordsman"-theory? Because the sound thing is way farther out there.
… No its supposed to be a joke... I didnt expect i needed to put smilies in there since it was obviously groundless and very unlikely.
but since it apearantly lacked smilies here are some to compensate: =P =P =P =P =P
and a few more for good measure:
:wassat:
:wub::blink::sad: ^^ ;) T_T :( 8^p O.0
What the…? Holy smurf am I slow! Until this statement of yours I never even realized that an octopus is actually serving octopusballs. Talk about not seeing the forest because of too many trees. facepalm
I love you Gorlom. =P
And I know delayed-reaction stuff has been used way too many times. I get that. What I'm saying is I don't want to see One Piece become saturated with delayed-reactions, because by this time, it's just lame. Except for Luffy's stuff, but that's understandable because he's rubber. …Off-topic.
cough
but yeah, originally I'd have fallen off my seat to see Brooke use music as a weapon, but I just don't see that anymore. We have an established weapon. Maybe he has 2 or 3 weapons, but if his weapon was music, it would be his only weapon. So yeah, I don't see that happening. =/
blinku um, what, Tony-kun?
He has an afro that was soooooo deeply rooted that it remained 10 years after his body wasted away. I'm sorry, but that is just not possible by anyone other than a black man.
and he is tall like aokiji, whom is also black.
You are welcome for your enlightenment.
ah. =P My dad had an afro, and he's white. XP if he grew out his hair now, it'd be the same way. It caused him agony in the time before afros were cool, because his hair was too curly and afro-y. XD I find it funny, myself.
ALLEZ CUISINE!!
There's no argumment about the fact that there are white people with afro. Hell, I have a white friend with afro. That's not the point, many people just feel that brooke is black. I feel like that too. But than again, except for a flashback, it's just not relevant. He will stay a skeleton forever..I guess.
8^p
That's.. brilliant! Where did you find that one?!
@Monkey:
This is far-fetched and unlikely. If Zoro's swords can unleash full whirlwinds, attack from a range with air slahes and create illusions, there's absolutely no reason why Brook can't do the same. Swords in One Piece are used to do epic things. Mihawk didn't have to jump when he cut Krieg's ships in half and yet his cuts still had to reach very high vertically.
Seriously, I find it lame that you're trying to defend sound-based moves using the direction of the cut as an argument. How is sound vertical? Sound waves spread in spheres and need some kind of vibration to actually be sound. Brook's cut was clean, there was no shaking of the floor or blurred vision or sfx to hint at sound. And we've seen it twice, Ryuuma used it first and still there were no hints that it was anything but a sword-move.
The delayed attack has been done dozens of times in shonen (I bet you can find an example in Rurouni Kenshin) and it's always been explained as just having a kickass technique with a sword, which is good enough for shonen logic. There's no need for a sonic explanation when a simple sword-cut could do just the same thing.
Sure, Brook doesn't use swords 100% the same way as Zoro, but that's a given, since Zoro uses three swords and Brook only one. Your theory has no ground.
So what if it's not needed? Dials weren't needed to do their jobs anywhere too. Same goes for many other things Oda did with the manga he creates solely from his creativeness [and not from logic].
Having no proof is what making speculation speculation.
Saying scientific stuff about sound to counter what I said, I dunno if it really does something. I don't see why Brooke can't shape sound as a blade if various other stuff were done with no explenation [Pound Canon, anyone?].
About Mihawk, to me it seems obvious he just used a Pound Canon-like attack which spread to the whole ship, when he was in front of it.
Oh, btw, me and Hiso saw something [ignore 1st message, it's only to understand]:
Well, it always disturbed me how Brooke cut from such a weird angle [on top]. Zoro usually cuts from the sides or from the bottom.. so I think he may be using sound.
As well as "Humming Ten Feet" is like, the sound of ten steps activate it. There's no other way to strike in the future, right?
Nice theory! It's also interesting that we can't exactley say if the cut (wich defeated Taleran) came form behind or not…
Then, it could've come from the ceiling or something! Kinda like how Kaku's Rankyaku rain bounced then fell down.
We're getting somewhere O__O that's new.
So that's what I think, that it bounced off the ceiling.
Celinig? is the other bridge right above them? did Brook pass through that as if he was a ghost or how come that is unharmed when Brook fell through the destroyed lower bridge?
about the smily… find? i dont know i just typed it in...
ah. =P My dad had an afro, and he's white. XP if he grew out his hair now, it'd be the same way. It caused him agony in the time before afros were cool, because his hair was too curly and afro-y. XD I find it funny, myself.
No no no, you see, your dad probably had a eurofro or a jewfro. It probably isn't even black. Afro= African fro.
and is your dad exceptionally tall? Kill your dad, wait ten years, and then dig him up to see if his fro is still there. I doubt it will be.
So all my proof points to brook being black.
and two more brook facts.
1. there is no "e" in his name.(that would be gay.)
2. Brook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Urahara and every other cane swordsman.
Pants-eater, than how do you expect him to fight? listen, if it was some kind of a Jigglypuff style, singing and making you numb, that was totally lame. but that's not the case, and if he is fighting with sound, it's much more cooler than that. it's like a sword techniqe, but it's not. it's delaying, just like the delay of a thunder. I really prefer that with any kind of fighting, specially fighting with swords.
I don't like swords anymore due to overexposure and I don't really like those delayed-reaction things. Too much of them as well.
Sound is… meh. But expect more than meh.
My guess is he pulls assault rifles out of his afro and blasts shit.
Many people believe Brooke is black? This is the first I've heard of that.
Folks, when we first saw Sanji after he had beaten Fullbody, there was no indication that he attacked with his feet only. In other words, it wasn't a sign of his fighting style. So I don't think the fact that Brooke struck ONE opponent with ONE sword slice means he's a sword-based fighter. Like I've said before, we should wait until we see him in battle a second time before making any assumptions.
@Pass:
You, sir, have just boosted my confidence in Brooke joining the crew.
Well, I know that I wrote this "Brooke is the happiness, so the new musician!"-stuff in my first posting in this forum. ^_^ Good that I posted it again oo
Allow me to try to boost your confidence one more time:
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Compared to:
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I don't think that Oda draws this serious kind of expression for Luffy just for fun. Luffy seemed desperate(?) when Brooke told him that he has to stay in the fog… and he acted like one of his close nakama is going to quit (even before he knew that Brooke is a musician). Seeing this strong reaction, I don't think that Luffy will let Brooke go.
Brooke will join the SH. This is really absolute. 99% of the people here think that way, I guess. In water 7, Franky had a few compettetors, but it's not the same here.
I think Brooke uses a sword hidden in his cane. But he doesn't his his sword to cut, instead, he uses it as a medium for his soundwaves, however he does it. So in a way the soundwaves amplifies the sword cutting? Does that make sense? :wassat:
It's a theory that has already been brought up (unsure if it was in this thread ora chapter discussion). So yes it makes sense =)
Yes that he has a sword hidden in his cane was pretty much proven in the chapter Taralan was cut (the one before he was purified).
Im not trying to shoot down your contribution, just confirm that others share your belives. ^^
Personally though i really dislike the tuneingfork idea because a tuneingfork only has one tone. that means that there will be wavelenghts and frequencies it cant produce.
Unless the lenght of the object is divideble/corresponding with the lenght/frequency of the tune there will be no resonace and thus (very likely) no damage.
I am not against the idea that Brook uses music or sound to fight though. just against the tuneingfork idea.
@Pass:
Many people believe Brooke is black? This is the first I've heard of that.
Folks, when we first saw Sanji after he had beaten Fullbody, there was no indication that he attacked with his feet only. In other words, it wasn't a sign of his fighting style. So I don't think the fact that Brooke struck ONE opponent with ONE sword slice means he's a sword-based fighter. Like I've said before, we should wait until we see him in battle a second time before making any assumptions.
Are people really that dense?
I think we can assume he uses a drawing type sword style since he AND ryuuma(his shadow) used the same attack.
Sound may play apart of it, but he is still a swordsman. He may vibrate his sword at high enough speeds that it humms or whatever, but his weapon and title is still that of a swordsman.
and just because everyone believes brook will join the crew, doesn't make it true. I personally think that he won't. He has no long term goals like the rest of the crew. (Unless the promise to his crew was to avenge them, but moria may be the person he wants revenge against) It is too early to call it just yet, unlike with Franky, whom after his flashback, it was downright obvious.
I personally DONT want him to join the crew. I think he will be that much greater of a character if he didn't join.
why does the promise to his former crew needto be to avenge them to be a longterm goal?
or did you mean that it wasnt longterm if the promise was to take vengence on Moria?
moria was most likely not the one that slaughtered his crew due to a number of reasons… (time doesnt match and Moria doesnt kill his opponents because he wants to keep their shadows beeing the foremost ones)
