Toon Disney is going to be renamed "Disney XD" apparently… and they're gonna focus on actiony stuff for boys. Maybe One Piece could have a chance there? Not sure if their censorship rules are going to change... doubt it, though.
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FYE.com is having a Funi DVD sale. I don't know if pre-orders count, but if you haven't bought the first season, you can one of them for free.
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Toon Disney is going to be renamed "Disney XD" apparently… and they're gonna focus on actiony stuff for boys. Maybe One Piece could have a chance there? Not sure if their censorship rules are going to change... doubt it, though.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=2949714#post2949714
It's certainly possible, I mean Disney and Toei have been in cahoots for a while too (with that collaboration RobotZ or whatever, I'm sure they could start fresh with Funi's dubbed episodes. Simply possible, don't want to get my hopes up or anything.
@Mikey:
Toon Disney is going to be renamed "Disney XD" apparently… and they're gonna focus on actiony stuff for boys. Maybe One Piece could have a chance there? Not sure if their censorship rules are going to change... doubt it, though.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=2949714#post2949714
This is even worse than when I thought they were just gonna make it Jetix. I don't watch Toon Disney much, but I watch it even less after 16 hours of its 24 hour block become Jetix. I was finally getting the age to appreciate the old cartoons Disney did. A few years ago I found myself really enjoying the Hercules series.
Shame all that's going bye bye, I guess the only way you'll be able to see these series now is to download them. And even then finding good downloads will be hard.
@Mikey:
Toon Disney is going to be renamed "Disney XD" apparently… and they're gonna focus on actiony stuff for boys. Maybe One Piece could have a chance there? Not sure if their censorship rules are going to change... doubt it, though.
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?p=2949714#post2949714
I hope it doesn't get on toon disney.Anything would be better then that.
I don't care wher Fun Piece airs, as long as it airs. >_<
You'd care if it was edited like the 4kids dub (or worse), which if it got on a Disney channel, it would be.
As long as we have the uncut DVDs…
The only thing the tv dub has to do is keep One Piece popular.
You'd care if it was edited like the 4kids dub (or worse), which if it got on a Disney channel, it would be.
Oh no it wouldn't.
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The series won't go to Disney. So long as people only know One Piece for what it is, which would be the uncut version, then I'm cool. It's best to have a clean slate and pushing the uncut DVDs over an edited TV dub is best.
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it should go to sci fi god why not?!
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You'd care if it was edited like the 4kids dub (or worse), which if it got on a Disney channel, it would be.
For your information, I wouldn't. There were only three things that bothered me about 4Piece:
-Voices
-Music
-No Uncut
Even if OP were stripped to bare bones, these three things wouldn't be compromised.
it should go to sci fi god why not?!
It would never work on Sci-Fi, I still don't get why people keep bringing this up.
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The series won't go to Disney. So long as people only know One Piece for what it is, which would be the uncut version, then I'm cool. It's best to have a clean slate and pushing the uncut DVDs over an edited TV dub is best.
Bull crap.
While I would LOVE an uncut run of One Piece on tv, the edited run returning to tv would still be great.
A tv run, no matter what you say, gives exposure. One Piece needs more exposure.
You'll still get your uncut DVDs, but a tv run can only help One Piece's situation here, even if it's an edited run. Which is why I'm so mad it doesn't have one.
Having both the uncut DVDs AND a tv run is best. That's the point.
It would never work on Sci-Fi, I still don't get why people keep bringing this up.
For the same reason people keep bitching about the canceling and keep bringing up the idea of CN picking it back up…cuz they want to.
I think Disney XD could be a possibility, I mean, I think the 4-Kids One Piece was on Jetix, right? It probably was in Spanish or something, I don't remember. Anyway, I don't really think One piece would fit on Disney, but it's still a possibilty, of course, it might have to have a later time slot as well.
Sci-Fi is not a possibility. The channel is too "adult".
Yeah, I agree.
Besides, One Piece isn't exactly the first thing I think of when I hear the word "Sci-Fi".
The best cable chance for One Piece at this point is Nicktoons Channel. They're going more and more action oriented (with Skyland, Avatar reruns going constantly, and the new Iron Man animated series).
It's the only way outside of Cartoon Network that the show is going to pop back up on American TV.
You were suggesting a run of even the 4Kids, weren't you Roman? That was what my reply was to.
One Piece going to another network may not even be a possibility, Cartoon Network probably signed a broadcasting contract and until it expires the series is only allowed on CN, and they may be dicks and keep that contract and not air the series until said contract terminates.
But if the rumor about Toei shopping around is true, I guess not.
Sci-Fi is not a possibility. The channel is too "adult".
What does the network being supposedly too adult have to do with anything?
@Zaerkuss:
Yeah, I agree.
Besides, One Piece isn't exactly the first thing I think of when I hear the word "Sci-Fi".
And neither is ECW.
News from Otakon: Nothing new. TV dealings is between CN and TOEI, FUNi is not in charge of that. 'Some commentaries' on second DVD volume which I guess nobody is getting a month early.
I agree it could go on scifi. Now and then, has a strong shonen feel to it as well as Gurren. I really dont see a big difference in maturity between those shows and OP. If anything OP, as it goes on to arlong and beyond, is a little more mature. And defintely more violent.
Also, it's a children's comic from Japan.
Why are you comparing it to cultural engravings and burritos.
@Sandai:
What does the network being supposedly too adult have to do with anything?
And neither is ECW.
Because they're not gonna put a show on a channel where it won't fit the the target audience. At least ECW gets on Sci-Fi Channel even though it's not sci-fi because it appeals to the adult male audience Sci-Fi Channel advertises to.
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I agree it could go on scifi. Now and then, has a strong shonen feel to it as well as Gurren. I really dont see a big difference in maturity between those shows and OP. If anything OP, as it goes on to arlong and beyond, is a little more mature. And defintely more violent.
"One Piece" is a kids' show, it doesn't belong on Mondays at 11:00 P.M., get over it people.
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So are Inu Yasha and Bleach…
"One Piece" is a kids' show, it doesn't belong on Mondays at 11:00 P.M., get over it people.
Yea a kid's show that most of us teenagers & young adults like.
"One Piece" is a kids' show, it doesn't belong on Mondays at 11:00 P.M., get over it people.
If it was a kid show then the Fan base wouldn't be filled with Teenagers and young adults.
If it was a kid show then the Fan base wouldn't be filled with Teenagers and young adults.
Its a kids show, regardless of what you think. The art and the fact that series has commercials with little kids are used to advertise them are proof enough. Though at least in Japan.
Its a kids show, regardless of what you think. The art and the fact that series has commercials with little kids are used to advertise them are proof enough. Though at least in Japan.
Kids in Japan are more mature than kids in the US. The kids in the US are too…gah!...
Kids in Japan are more mature than kids in the US. The kids in the US are too…gah!...
That's a generalization, Kids, at least some kids in the US can handle blood and stuff. When, I was a kid I used to sneak out to R rated movies and enjoyed watching South park as well. In fact I have seen some kids watch Horror movies and yet not be influenced negatively. Kids are not stupid, if they see a woman stab herself they know its going hurt if they do that. Its only some really idiotic kids who try to be cool by imitating something like that.
Okay, let me re-phrase it, "One Piece" is an all-ages show, with the main audience being 6-14 year-old boys. I was talking to some Japanese guys at a party who've been fans of "One Piece" from what I can tell from the beginning, they've been living in America since about the time terrorism was a hot issue, and when I told them about how 4Kids did the series I asked and they said in Japan the target audience is teenagers. Now that's fine, but teen years cross-over into kid and adult demographics. I consider my 12-year-old self a kid, who doesn't? The manga I'd say is targeted more at teens while the T.V. show is more for younger children, they still each count as kids. As far as "Bleach" and "Inuyasha" go, they'd probably get better ratings on Toonami than [adult swim]. They're teen shows, teenagers are a prime demographic in both blocks, but as Ao Kiji mentioned they are kids' shows, they just happened to end up on [adult swim] 'cause there's still an audience for those shows on that time-slot. I can't say the same for "One Piece", unless you haven't seen all three shows I don't feel I need to explain why "One Piece" lends itself more to children than "Bleach" and "Inuyasha". An then there's the whole thing about different cultures having different standards, yada yada.
And Ao Kiji, how can you say "One Piece" and "Now and Then, Here and There" don't have a big difference in "maturity". "One Piece" doesn't deal with military exploitation of children and rape. I gotta agree on "Gurren Lagann", if this were back in the early 2000s it would've certainly ended up on Toonami or [adult swim]. And again, compared to stuff like "Naruto" and "One Piece", "Gurren Lagann" lends itself more to an older audience.
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Kids in Japan are more mature than kids in the US. The kids in the US are too…gah!...
I really doubt that. How do you know that, you know any Japanese kids?
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Bakugan getting better ratings than One Piece here should be a dead giveaway.
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Bakugan getting better ratings than One Piece here should be a dead giveaway.
Is it getting better ratings?
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Bakugan getting better ratings than One Piece here should be a dead giveaway.
..Bakugan? You mean that crappy Yu-Gi-Oh and Digimon ripoff that airs in the morning…when almost nobody is awake? Holy hell, that's a problem.
The fact that it's still on CN while One Piece isn't should tell you that it's doing something more to "impress" CN. Otherwise they would've trashed it by now.
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The fact that it's still on CN while One Piece isn't should tell you that it's doing something more to "impress" CN. Otherwise they would've trashed it by now.
You have to remember that Cartoon Network has the merchandising rights for "Bakugan".
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I really doubt that. How do you know that, you know any Japanese kids?
Yes I do actually.
Okay, let me re-phrase it, "One Piece" is an all-ages show, with the main audience being 6-14 year-old boys. I was talking to some Japanese guys at a party who've been fans of "One Piece" from what I can tell from the beginning, they've been living in America since about the time terrorism was a hot issue, and when I told them about how 4Kids did the series I asked and they said in Japan the target audience is teenagers. Now that's fine, but teen years cross-over into kid and adult demographics. I consider my 12-year-old self a kid, who doesn't?
While I agree with you on the most part, I don't on the main audience ages of 6-14. I myself, think late pre-teens to late teenagers is more suitable. I consider kids below early 11. I still of course consider teens and late teens kids, but not in the sense that they are childish. Almost like you but slight differences.
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..Bakugan? You mean that crappy Yu-Gi-Oh and Digimon ripoff that airs in the morning…when almost nobody is awake? Holy hell, that's a problem.
Beyblade and Duelmasters too! XD
Kids in Japan are more mature than kids in the US. The kids in the US are too…gah!...
Yeah…no.
You're wrong. Kids are the same no matter where they are.
Yeah…no.
You're wrong. Kids are the same no matter where they are.
Ok then, Agreed. End of that discussion.
But what type of Anime does the Sci-Fi channel air? Aside from the sci-fi type of course. I've only seen Gurren Lagann as the closest thing to OP on there, the again I've only probably seen like 4 animes there.
If only the old international channel were back…Anyone remember those days? It got bought out like 2-4 years ago and showed J-music, K-music, and anime, dubbed or not.
While I agree with you on the most part, I don't on the main audience ages of 6-14. I myself, think late pre-teens to late teenagers is more suitable. I consider kids below early 11. I still of course consider teens and late teens kids, but not in the sense that they are childish. Almost like you but slight differences.
6-14 year-old boys are the main audience for pretty much any popular mainstream action/adventure cartoon, that's how it's always been. I remember talking to an anime retailer and an employee from Toei Animation and from what they told me in Japan the main audience for "One Piece" is 8-14 year-old boys, which is pretty much the same thing as what you and I are saying. It appeals to everyone but the 15-30 year-old audience is a secondary demographic. And what exactly is your definition of childish, teens are kids that don't act like kids is what you're saying? And what is "like me" supposed to mean?
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But what type of Anime does the Sci-Fi channel air? Aside from the sci-fi type of course. I've only seen Gurren Lagann as the closest thing to OP on there, the again I've only probably seen like 4 animes there.
If only the old international channel were back…Anyone remember those days? It got bought out like 2-4 years ago and showed J-music, K-music, and anime, dubbed or not.
They air pretty much anything that's for ages 15 and up, and obviously is sci-fi/action/drama.
And hey, we may not have International Channel anymore, but at least there's Imaginasian.
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6-14 year-old boys are the main audience for pretty much any popular mainstream action/adventure cartoon, that's how it's always been. I remember talking to an anime retailer and an employee from Toei Animation and from what they told me in Japan the main audience for "One Piece" is 8-14 year-old boys, which is pretty much the same thing as what you and I are saying. It appeals to everyone but the 15-30 year-old audience is a secondary demographic. And what exactly is your definition of childish, teens are kids that don't act like kids is what you're saying? And what is "like me" supposed to mean?
That makes more sense to me.
As for the teen thing, I just mean they have different interests. I can't really say for sure myself so let's just skip that.
Though I'm still sad as my provider doesn't have it. :sad:
Not a total loss though.
Are there really any other channels One Piece can qualify to be on?
That makes more sense to me.
As for the teen thing, I just mean they have different interests. I can't really say for sure myself so let's just skip that.Though I'm still sad as my provider doesn't have it. :sad:
Not a total loss though.Are there really any other channels One Piece can qualify to be on?
Oh I can say for sure the difference in interests between teens and children. I remember once I reached the age of 12 I spent longer hours under the bedsheets and drawing dirtier pictures.
There are other channels that "One Piece" could possibly be on, but certainly possibly not be on. Nicktoons Network is a strong contender in my mind mainly because there's a rumor they're interested in it and because with stuff like the new Marvel cartoons coming out next year Nicktoons is showing more of an interest in action/adventure cartoons for the pre-teen male demographic. Then there's Toon Disney which will soon be Disney XD, and the name change has to do with the fact the channel is changing its focus more to action/adventure and to compete with Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon in attracting the pre-teen male demographic. Imaginasian is another one I thought of since from what I heard at Anime Expo Toei Animation is talking to that broadcaster. I'll put CW on the list for good measure but 4Kids is now in-charge of programming decisions for that channel so you know how that is. Anyway the main thing working against "One Piece" getting on the more mainstream channels like Nicktoons is the content, even in a TV-Y7 form that would still be true to the original show "One Piece" would be considered "edgy" by normal American kids standards, Cartoon Network is usually the only channel that's willing to air cartoons with "edgier" content.
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Hmm that's interesting about Disney and Nick.
Also what seems to interest me is that I saw an AMV with the Crocodile versus Luffy fight unedited, but what's odd is that the logo in the screen was Jetix.
Do they already air One Piece elsewhere on Jetix or some other company dubbed it to another language?
I'll try to find a link somewhere…
Yeah, in Spain, they air One Piece on their Jetix.
OK, I have a few things I wish to add, even if they have been added already.
1. One Piece is not Sci-Fi and should not be put on to the Sci-Fi Network. Gurrenlagann works because robots are Sci-Fi and going into space is also Sci-Fi. Pirates are not Sci-Fi. The closest thins being Sci-Fi like in One Piece are Franky and Kuma.
2. Nicktoons network does not show Anime. If someone can show me otherwise I would like to see, but to this point I have not seen anything about Nicktoons Network being intrested in showing actual Anime. Any action adventure shows on there that i know about have been American made, but I don't have the channel so I would not know anything recent that has gotten put on there. So if you are going to say that the Nicktoons Network is a place for it to air can you please show me some sort of evidence that the network has any sort of plan to air any actual Anime?
3. Disney XD seems like it could be a place it could be shown, but it is obvious it will be edited. To what degree i am not sure as I have never gotten to see what Anime shown on there is like, but the obvious still is probably true. No blood, no cursing, and not extreme violence. Or nothing imatatable I would guess.
That's pretty much all I have to add. I would say if anywhere Toonami would be the best place but apparently that's close to impossible now, so Disney XD seems the only other place it could go to me.
