OH MY GOSH!!
Incredible, I mean…last week was like petty cash compared to this. Xbox-sized spoilers have just surfaced, set for Turn 15 in two weeks. MONSTER SPOILERS I say!
Be wary everyone! Avoid the popular internet venues at all costs because you'll most likely regret it. Just…just dang. o_O
Calm down.:silly:
@Sandai:
Calm down.:silly:
I'll do the opposite, this calls for a celebration. Crossword nailed the palm of the problem - Geass moving somewhere is equivalent to, err, Naruto improving his jutsu.
I actually want to know what lelouch is gonna do with rollo after he discovers that it was him that killed shirley.
also, that little talk that shirley had with Suzaku, I bet Suzaku will eventually forgive Lelouch. If shirley was able to forgive, he can too.
I actually want to know what lelouch is gonna do with rollo after he discovers that it was him that killed shirley.
I believe Lelouch has already expressed his intentions to cast Rolo aside after his usefulness has ended. When/if he finds out I'm sure he would have no problem killing him. Of course I'm still not 100% convinced that it was Rolo, or if it was he may not have killed her in the way we think he did.
Spoilers for part of episode 14. Most likely true.
! Yeah, I would say Lelouch goes ballistic next episode. I've heard that he starts hating everything Geass-related including C.C. He lashes out at her and even wants to kill her, but doesn't because he knows he can't. He calls her "an immortal witch."
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
Turn 15 will be a C.C. focused episode. Such that, I think it'll be the best Geass episode since the Battle of Narita (R1 Turn 11).
I had to silently Youtube the thing during lunch at work yesterday. Of all the weeks for my computer to catch a virus… Anyway, I'll hit my points in turn:
New Opening: Can't comment on the song as I still have yet to actually hear it. I couldn't really gleam any new info from it, just that the Siegfried is in space.
Jeremiah: Switched sides way too quickly. How'd he go from research head to…of yeah, he was supposed to die after Narita. Those fans, maybe they'll make a way to negate what happened next...
Shirley's death: This was the most effective character death thus far in the series, I felt, because it wasn't ridiculously overdone. It actually made me feel bad for the characters involved. Shirley was a relatively normal person who got swept up in the conflict, and became a casuality of it, all because of…
Rollo: Rollo, Rollo, Rollo… I used to be neutral towards you, now I dislike you. It's not because you're shouta, or because your Geass is rather hax, but because you've proven to be a selfish and insecure brat.
Future developments: All I can say is, the show's finally looking like it wants to go somewhere, and that's good, because it sent a lot of time dicking around. And that's terrible.
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
Jeremiah: Switched sides way too quickly. How'd he go from research head to…of yeah, he was supposed to die after Narita. Those fans, maybe they'll make a way to negate what happened next...
One of the Geass themes is loyalty to one's lord, it seems to be a common trait in the best knights of the Britannian Empire. Guilford, for example, would probably be willing to betray Britannia on behalf of Cornelia should she go there.
As it turns out, Jeremiah was once Marianne's bodyguard and, like almost everyone who knew "Marianne the Flash" in person he was totally dedicated to her. He failed to save her, then he heard of her children Lelouch/Nunnally get killed in the Battle of Japan, so that was like two failures for him. So he transferred there and joined the Purist Faction (blaming the Japanese for the alleged killing) and was screwed over a third time by Zero, ironically Lelouch in disguise.
Of course all this was detailed in the drama CDs so nobody would have seen it coming if they didn't get the additional info! Such is a weakness of the show's writing, to leave everything important out of it so there can be ridiculous plot twists in every episode.
I'm rather happy Jeremiah joined Lelouch…not only because it was Jeremiah, but finally some of Marianne's vanguard and other Britannians will assist Lelouch in his conquest. Up until this point in the story, Zero's identity as a Britannian Prince has been nothing but a liability, but Lelouch's past can command some powerful allies now toward the conclusion of the series who are not just dedicated to "Zero" but to Lelouch's actual goals.
Jeremiah is the first Black Knight (if we can call him that right now) aside from C.C. who is battling for the goals of a) destruction of Britannia in revenge for the murder of Marianne and b) create a better world from the rubble where the weak won't be oppressed. Everyone else is fighting for Japanese nationalism, allying with Zero because they know he's somewhat interested in them and can produce results. A different brand of loyalty.
If events pass as some believe they will (the Black Knights oust Zero when Japan is conquered because they don't want to further aggravate Britannia) Lelouch is going to need powerful allies like Jeremiah to tie him over until the Black Knights change their minds when there's another invasion.
Jeremiah is the first Black Knight (if we can call him that right now) aside from C.C. who is battling for the goals of a) destruction of Britannia in revenge for the murder of Marianne and b) create a better world from the rubble where the weak won't be oppressed. Everyone else is fighting for Japanese nationalism, allying with Zero because they know he's somewhat interested in them and can produce results. A different brand of loyalty.
just wanted to ad that the new guys is the same way. I like the addition of Jeremiah also to the ranks I wonder just how far the emperor power strecthes.
Yeah, I haven't seen any accounts of the CDs, so to this viewer, that scene came off to me as something like this:
Jeremiah: <insert speech="" about="" humiliation="" and="" revenge="" here="">Why do you fight the Emperor?
Lelouch: He let my mother, Marianne, die.
Jeremiah: Oh… That's too bad. I guess I'll join to help avenge her too.
Though in retrospect, I should've seen something like this coming, since the character of Jeremiah Gottfried is basically a walking, talking retcon.</insert>
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
Though in retrospect, I should've seen something like this coming, since the character of Jeremiah Gottfried is basically a walking, talking orange retcon.
:ninja:Fixed:ninja:
I believe Lelouch has already expressed his intentions to cast Rolo aside after his usefulness has ended. When/if he finds out I'm sure he would have no problem killing him. Of course I'm still not 100% convinced that it was Rolo, or if it was he may not have killed her in the way we think he did.
ok, i guess i should say, how and when is he gonna deal with rollo. Even though, Rollo is a jerk, he has become a valuable pawn for Lelouch. Will he be willing to just cast that aside?
Though in retrospect, I should've seen something like this coming, since the character of Jeremiah Gottfried is basically a walking, talking retcon.
Cornelia and Anya are probably going to join Lelouch as well, maybe Gino too. Kallen doesn't change sides like what some people fear because her new Knightmare is still listed under the Black Knights section of the website.
ok, i guess i should say, how and when is he gonna deal with rollo. Even though, Rollo is a jerk, he has become a valuable pawn for Lelouch. Will he be willing to just cast that aside?
Ah, that is a much better question. Well, Suzaku was willing to kill Lelouch, his life-long friend, when he found out he was responsible for Euphemia's death. Buth then again I guess that's apples and oranges. Of course he could also be overcome with guilt when he realizes it could have prevented if he hadn't kept Rolo around, knowing he was a dangerous, mentally unstable assassin with ulterior motives.
I repeat, this is assuming it is Rolo. Not 100% convinced (though it probably is).
actually, you make me think of another point. Wasn't Suzaku remorseful for killing his dad. So, if he killed lelouch, that would just be 2 wrongs on his part. Would he really do the same thing again, or would he learn from his past mistakes?
! Well at any rate, hears what I've heard on the subject from the spoilers. Keep in mind these may not be true. In episode 14 Rolo openly admits to Lelouch that he killed Shirley. Lelouch does not react immediately, but he plans to have Rolo killed in his attack on the Geass Cult
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
i hope the plans for kallen rescue has been in order on top of that i would like to see how they will get her knightmare back.
I've seen some speculation being batted around on Karen becoming Nunnally's Knight, but not in the sense of taking to the sky and blowing up the Black Knights, but more along the lines of being a proxy protector, like how Lelouch originally wanted Suzaku to do that before learning that he was the Lancelot's pilot.
I personally think there is some merit to that, as the Guren is shown in the same scene with the Lancelot Albion with near-identical flight pack wings, and character association thru a show's OP is one of the oldest anime cliches. Since Nunnally is by no means a warmonger, this could work out without Karen actually having to fight Lelouch.
Heh, this is the first time this show has had me eagerly anticipating what's going to happen next.
The Op also makes me think about the show's beginning. New and unique powers are cool and all, but remember when a 7th generation Knightmare Frame was a big deal?
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
hey, ya, what has lelouch been doing, loafing around, while poor kallen has been captured!
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
I've seen some speculation being batted around on Karen becoming Nunnally's Knight, but not in the sense of taking to the sky and blowing up the Black Knights, but more along the lines of being a proxy protector, like how Lelouch originally wanted Suzaku to do that before learning that he was the Lancelot's pilot.
I personally think there is some merit to that, as the Guren is shown in the same scene with the Lancelot Albion with near-identical flight pack wings, and character association thru a show's OP is one of the oldest anime cliches. Since Nunnally is by no means a warmonger, this could work out without Karen actually having to fight Lelouch.
Heh, this is the first time this show has had me eagerly anticipating what's going to happen next.
The Op also makes me think about the show's beginning. New and unique powers are cool and all, but remember when a 7th generation Knightmare Frame was a big deal?
Yea i know what you're saying. I don't watch the OP because of spoilers and such however, I would be upset if kallen did anything to help brittania her character has been so good she def one of my fav characters.
I've figured out what "killing the gods" means. Bartley said it wasn't a metaphor, but V.V. seemed to imply that it was, so my theory is that he and Charles want to destroy the planets, which bear the Roman names of Greek gods.
In particular, they want to destroy…Jupiter!
So that's what the Sword of Ashka is…the poor man's superlaser... 
Well, he did install a Gefgun disruptor (or whatever the hell it's called) into Tokyo's transit system.
exactly! what about kallen! don't forget about her!
exactly! what about kallen! don't forget about her!
yea i know the last we saw of her some one was entering her cell could those be people that are going to rescue her. Lelouch entering a compund like that shouldn't be 2 difficult if you consider how easily he been able to infiltrate various strong holds in the show i am just waiting for her release she is one of my fav characters. Her being in prison is a lame way of the writters writting her out of the show.
I don't think she's written out. I think this is going to be an interesting plot twist. something is going to become of this.
Yeah, watch the extended preview for the next episode on Youtube. Karen's most certainly not being written out.
exactly! what about kallen! don't forget about her!
Well, you were saying that Lelouch was loafing around, and I debated that he was busy installing the Gefgun disruptor. Not to mention he got Jeremiah to join his side. But yes, he should try to get Kallen back as she is his most formidable knight. Though I am curious how her situation is going to play out.
Geass is on in thirteen minutes! Let's all drink ourselves to death!
…
Just saw it.
! 1. C.C. was once Marianne's consort at the royal palace.
2. Lelouch kills EVERYONE.
3. People are starting to doubt Zero.
4. Siegfried was destroyed.
5. Rollo was nearly killed; he also admitted he killed Shirley to protect the secret of Geass.
6. Those doors at special Geass ruins are an opening to The World of C.
7. Lelouch was transported to the Sword of Akasha at the end of the episode.
Lawls @ glasses girl masturbating. She looked like she was having a seizure.
Lawls @ glasses girl masturbating. She looked like she was having a seizure.
when did that happen?
Episode 11 I guess is what aired last night.
Geass is on in thirteen minutes! Let's all drink ourselves to death!
…
Just saw it.
! 1. C.C. was once Marianne's consort at the royal palace.
2. Lelouch kills EVERYONE.
3. People are starting to doubt Zero.
4. Siegfried was destroyed.
5. Rollo was nearly killed; he also admitted he killed Shirley to protect the secret of Geass.
6. Those doors at special Geass ruins are an opening to The World of C.
7. Lelouch was transported to the Sword of Akasha at the end of the episode.
I watched the raw also damn I can't wait for the subs… .
! did suzuka tell kallen that lelouch killed shirley and wants kallen to kill lelouch?
I think the phrase ''everyone's a douchebag'' sums up this episode pretty well.
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
! Personally, my opinion of Rollo went up 200% after this episode - yeah he killed Shirley, but he made up for it by beating the snot out of V.V.
! Additionally, I feel Lelouch was the lesser evil in this episode than Suzaku and Clovis - the Geass Cult certainly was not "innocent" unlike the slaughter in Shinjuku, they're all effectively weapons. Cornelia understood this, as did Lelouch. Of course the Black Knights wouldn't understand because Lelouch didn't brief them on what the Geass is, but he was justified in massacring them.
! Suzaku on the other hand has sunk to an all time low. Here we have the guy who was proporting to have the moral high ground over Zero in the first season, only to suddenly drop it when it doesn't suit him anymore to adopt the "Lelouch killed Euphemia" stance, which he uses as an excuse to look for anything to justify his actions.
! No matter how much evidence is against Lelouch = Zero, he refuses to believe it because he's rotten to the core. Drugging Kallen is just the logical next step.
Damn It Episode! Download Xd
! To answer your question MonkeyDMalcolm, yes Suzaku told Kallen that Lelouch killed Shirley, but I don't think he asked her to kill him per se. Although I think he is trying to shift her loyalty and he is going to try to use refrain to determine if Lelouch is still Zero.
! But I think Crossword said it best that everyone is a douchebag in this episode. Seriously, it was hard to like anyone in this episode.
! -Lelouch seems to get over Shirley pretty quick and gets his aggressios out by slaughtering hundreds of people (granted they weren't exactly defenseless). Not to mention deceiving his soldiers.
-Suzaku has reached an all time low for the aforementione reasons. So much so it almost seems OOC.
-Still haven't (and probably never will) forgiven Rolo for killing Shirley. Plus, he killed a bunch of kids, but then he's as guilty as anyone else. He does get some bonus points for attacking V.V., although he pussed out at the last minute.
-Charles and V.V. …well, we already hated them.
! I guess the only people I could like in this episode are Kallen, Nunnally, and Cornelia. I really pity Kallen right now, but Cornelia steals the day for me (I suppose) by aiding in the ownage of V.V. (although she did stop Lulu from killing Rolo).
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
! From what I've read it seems that the Siegfried was taken down much more easily than last time. I mean, before, they dropped a building and a bunch of other crap on it to little effect, and had to finally drag it into the ocean to crush it.
! Granted, Jeremiah wasn't piloting it, but still…
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
Crossword -
Siegfried didn't use any of its particle shielding I think, and Gawain was offensively the second most powerful Knightmare in the entire series, even compared with Shinkiro.
Though, I'm happy to see I was right about Shinkiro's purple laser. A lot of people looked at how it did nothing to Mordred and felt it was weaker than the Hadron Cannon, but I that was only a refracted ray of the incidental beam, not the raw beam itself. Lelouch didn't use the crystal prism this time and simply shot the incidental beam at Siegfried, which was so powerful it not only punched a hole in it, but caused it to reverse direction. Reverse direction!
the subs are up on anime-media.com and youtube.
After watching the episode it seems I am really starting to hate suzaku.
! it was refrain
If you saw were able to read the subtitles then you a lot of the mysteries would be answered. But yea suzaku a lil bitch and I hope he fucking dies he's a fucking bastard.
I feel because I know the reason, or emotions behind his actions, I don't hate him so much, but still wish he would smarten up and see what a dink he's being. I really had thought that Shirley had knocked some sence into him.
Maybe Nunnally will grab them both by the ears and tell them so smarten up. She was the only one in the episode not being a douchbag.
and what's up with this hidden geass center? why do all those people have geass. what's going on?
I feel because I know the reason, or emotions behind his actions, I don't hate him so much, but still wish he would smarten up and see what a dink he's being. I really had thought that Shirley had knocked some sence into him.
Maybe Nunnally will grab them both by the ears and tell them so smarten up. She was the only one in the episode not being a douchbag.
and what's up with this hidden geass center? why do all those people have geass. what's going on?
Sometimes I wonder where your mind goes while you watch this show.
blushesI have troubles following all the little details. it doesn't help that I have to read subtitles. and then the fact that I am anxious, and gg fansubs is always the first out, which always has timing issues. And then anything politics goes over my head. and there has been a lot of that in this season.
I know geass has something to do with VV and CC. I know VV is in control, and using the king and Britannia as his puppet. I got that part in the episode that CC used to be in charge. I know CC and VV are enemies for some reason. I know both can give the Geass powers to regular people and that they can not die like normal people.
I understand that the place that they attacked is VV's secret base. I just don't understand the involvement of all those people. I can guess, but I don't know the definite reason. is VV creating a society of geass people for some reason? Rolo "was" one of them. ok….
Malcolm - It's not entirely CU's fault, Geass leaves a lot of holes in its storytelling so it's not surprising some people would be confused.
CU - This is the HQ of the "Geass Cult". Throughout history, this cult has produced Geass users to influence political events for the aim of a certain country like Britannia (like what conspiracy theories think). C.C. as one of the people who can issue Geass was recruited into the cult at one point and became its leader, but she was then ousted by V.V. who took control. V.V. then imprisoned C.C. and tortured her for some reason.
Lelouch was going to capture the cult originally, but after Shirley's death he was all "mmm, no. Let's set it on fire!".
Malcolm - It's not entirely CU's fault, Geass leaves a lot of holes in its storytelling so it's not surprising some people would be confused.
CU - This is the HQ of the "Geass Cult". Throughout history, this cult has produced Geass users to influence political events for the aim of a certain country like Britannia (like what conspiracy theories think). C.C. as one of the people who can issue Geass was recruited into the cult at one point and became its leader, but she was then ousted by V.V. who took control. V.V. then imprisoned C.C. and tortured her for some reason.
Lelouch was going to capture the cult originally, but after Shirley's death he was all "mmm, no. Let's set it on fire!".
I wasn't trying to be mean or anything and the stuff isn't explained in the show. However we knew there was research being done and that there could be multiple people with geass so it isn't a stretch in assuming.
The whole killing everyone made sense once I saw the subs. It also leaves no room for a spin off or a next season. Unless some geass user escaped or where not at the compound like in Rolo's cases (which i hope not) Then the people with geass are Rolo, Lelouch and Charles. It would suck if something crazy happened and lelouch gets killed and then Rolo takes over…. I would really hate a stupid twist like that.
Lelouch V Charles is gonna be sweet.
Suzuka bitch ass needs to be killed off. I don't think i've hated a character this much ever him and that glasses b itch nina she's the fuckN lamest character i've ever seen in an anime since that chad guy from bleach.
blushesI have troubles following all the little details. it doesn't help that I have to read subtitles. and then the fact that I am anxious, and gg fansubs is always the first out, which always has timing issues. And then anything politics goes over my head. and there has been a lot of that in this season.
I know geass has something to do with VV and CC. I know VV is in control, and using the king and Britannia as his puppet. I got that part in the episode that CC used to be in charge. I know CC and VV are enemies for some reason. I know both can give the Geass powers to regular people and that they can not die like normal people.
I understand that the place that they attacked is VV's secret base. I just don't understand the involvement of all those people. I can guess, but I don't know the definite reason. is VV creating a society of geass people for some reason? Rolo "was" one of them. ok….
It seems like your picking up on the little details. I don't see it as him creating a society more as him producing lab rats in order to produce the perfect Geass controller or an anti-geass person like Jeremiah. Remember that all geass's eventually go out of control. I think Rolo hinted to something about that when he was telling Lelouch about his past he was an orphan they gave him geass and forced him to be an assassin or osmething along those lines. They were building a Geass army pretty much.
Rolo's weakness is interesting.
CU - This is the HQ of the "Geass Cult". Throughout history, this cult has produced Geass users to influence political events for the aim of a certain country like Britannia (like what conspiracy theories think). C.C. as one of the people who can issue Geass was recruited into the cult at one point and became its leader, but she was then ousted by V.V. who took control. V.V. then imprisoned C.C. and tortured her for some reason.
wow! thanx for the info. I've watched this serie from the first season and yet I don't know what's this "Geass Cult" (just learned bout it recently btw). I guess I missed or didn't take note if the explanation was made before anyway, if you don't mind where was it explained in the serie before that C.C was tortured and was once Marianne's consort? IDK C.C was tortured before.
@MonkeyDMalcolm:
Suzuka bitch ass needs to be killed off. I don't think i've hated a character this much ever him and that glasses b itch nina she's the fuckN lamest character i've ever seen in an anime since that chad guy from bleach.
totally agree. he even want to use refrain on Kallen! talking about cheap lame trick. I actually started hating him since from the 1st season. I just hope he'll die soon but given he had been geassed before, that would be rather unlikely for now.
It is a good day to die!
To be honest, I don't quite remember the cult being mentioned within the show itself until a few episodes ago. Then again, my memory's not terribly great…
It seems kinda bullshitty to me how Cornelia managed to rig that Akatsuki up, but whatever. She was like the only character apart from Nunnaly, Karen, the grunts, and somewhat C.C. who wasn't a douchebag this episode.
Watch me predict what's going to happen to Suzaku! In the end he'll have a sudden change of heart and sacrifice himself for Lelouch after Jeremiah conviently cancels his Geass, thus (in theory) redeeming his character. And the fangirls will go wild.
And if the last set of spoilers Terek mentioned were X-box sized, I just stumbled upon ones that were, um, Blue Gene/L sized. Be careful people.
~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.
3DS Friend Code: 2234-8294-8917
Are they (long) 2channel ones? Those are what I'm most worried about - if they're magazine spoilers they are OK, NewType and other sources are fairly tight-lipped on their info but the last thing I need is another bullet summary like last week that outlined almost all of the highlights of the episode.
I'm 99.9% sure that they were from 2ch, and the person had set it up in list format (completely forgetting to use tags in the process). And yes, it was long. It's definitely what you want to stay away from.
To be honest, I don't quite remember the cult being mentioned within the show itself until a few episodes ago. Then again, my memory's not terribly great…
It seems kinda bullshitty to me how Cornelia managed to rig that Akatsuki up, but whatever. She was like the only character apart from Nunnaly, Karen, the grunts, and somewhat C.C. who wasn't a douchebag this episode.
Watch me predict what's going to happen to Suzaku! In the end he'll have a sudden change of heart and sacrifice himself for Lelouch after Jeremiah conviently cancels his Geass, thus (in theory) redeeming his character. And the fangirls will go wild.
And if the last set of spoilers Terek mentioned were X-box sized, I just stumbled upon ones that were, um, Blue Gene/L sized. Be careful people.
It wasn't mentioned however they were people behind the scenes researching Geass. Clovis was doing it the posion gas was really CC and 2nd prince who names slips me at the moment was also researching the mind elevators or w.e. that was. Then the people that was working on Jeremiah thought out the show. There was always hints to something behind the scences.
