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Forte EXE

I'm 17 and still a virgin.
Must hold out till next year….

Namisan18

I have a saying that I made up myself.

To all men his own truth

Being married to have intimate relations is perferred but honestly I really don't care.

Warning: This is where I show my dark side. For all of you who might be offended by the following please do not read. Thank you.

I remeber being younger and having a Ladi-Da image of meeting the one then falling in love and getting married and having kids. Now that I'm older I think I've become wiser in a sense. As the years went by I've come to terms with a few things. I REALY don't like kids, marrage is just a legal contract, romance is a figment of books and Hollywood, people who cheat are greedy and selfish, and I can't STAND men, and women are even worse(This doesn't go towards anyone on the arlong park forums. You guys are the only people I can tolerate).

Just thinking of intamacy churns my stomach. But this only goes for myself. When your in a relationship you have to think about the other person all the time. Then you have to be around them alot and be on costant tabs with them. I'm the girl who couldn't take care of her Tamagchi for more than a day without it dieing on me. It always died from neglect because I had better things to do with my life. This goes for a boyfriend for myself as well. I'll be intrested in him for a day or so then I'll just ignore him. (oh beleave this has happened) Don't even get me started on kids. I would be a terrible mother.

To put it bluntly I'm a cold bitter narcasist.

And again sorry if this has offened anyone.

I'm not fond of kids myself.

But looking at the face of reality blows ass, I mean, all my life reality proved to me that everything is really going to turn out bad for me. You ignore reality, and it will pop out behind the couch when you're not looking and get you. You let reality roam around, and then your life will start to fall apart and the good times seem far away. What I was going at? Oh bloody hell.

Still.

Strings

Who hasn't lost it.. like common.. TOO THEIR HAND

taboo

remeber being younger and having a Ladi-Da image of meeting the one then falling in love and getting married and having kids. Now that I'm older I think I've become wiser in a sense. As the years went by I've come to terms with a few things. I REALY don't like kids, marrage is just a legal contract, romance is a figment of books and Hollywood, people who cheat are greedy and selfish, and I can't STAND men, and women are even worse(This doesn't go towards anyone on the arlong park forums. You guys are the only people I can tolerate).

I've heard that one before. That marrige is just a contract and there is no such thing as romance and what not…. I don't like to be a kill-joy, but I'm going to show my darkside a little now too. ^^ There is no point to anything. There is no guarantee we even exist, and the only proof we have is our feeble senses and even those are fallible. Why live on? There is no purpose to life. Why are consious for only a short time, then numb for an eternity? If there never was life or consiousness, would the universe even exist? What would prove it's existence if we were not there to say 'I think, therefore I am?'. If I were to kill myself in the next few minutes, would I find that being dead was exactly like being alive?

I've lain in bed at night thinking about the purpose of existence, and I belive that the only thing we can do with our meaningless lives is to make the best of it. Try our best, have goals, save yourself for someone that matters, making little things count, having traditions, etc. You can live your life like it's meaningless, or you can give it it's meaning. (Of course, if you have religion the above isn't even an issue. xD)

See? Reality is a punk.

Reality: HAHAHAHA.. Give me your lunch money

Namisan18

Maybe romance did exist at one point but it shure doesn't now.

And agian sorry if I've offened anyone (I just hate rude people. And when I find myself being rude it just kills me inside.)

I've heard that one before. That marrige is just a contract and there is no such thing as romance and what not…. I don't like to be a kill-joy, but I'm going to show my darkside a little now too. ^^ There is no point to anything. There is no guarantee we even exist, and the only proof we have is our feeble senses and even those are fallible. Why live on? There is no purpose to life. Why are consious for only a short time, then numb for an eternity? If there never was life or consiousness, would the universe even exist? What would prove it's existence if we were not there to say 'I think, therefore I am?'. If I were to kill myself in the next few minutes, would I find that being dead was exactly like being alive?

I've thought about this too. Then I few seconds later, I realize that I live for ONE PIECE.

And yes, I am a virgin. I'm only 13 afterall.

wolfwood

whatcha talking about :P

of course love and romance exists im experiencing it right now with my girl :D

EDIT man there are lots of depressed and bitter people here i feel bad for ya but hopefuly you start beliving in love again ;)

eh, me no sex here. Wouldn't start a relationship with any girl at my school, mostly dumbasses who say the word like every 3 words in their sentences. Feel sorry for them when they graduate. and Namisan18 you really, really,reall, REALLY have a negative outlook at life like one of my friends at school, Just be glad you don't have family like mine they hit you for your way of life but you missed a few things my friend mention to me one time. Where the mentioning of Religion and it view points, or the halmark card crap.

Starlight

Gee, i'm gone for a few hours and when i'm back, it's already 6 pages long.

Looks like they're still more virgins in here?. :lol:

wolfwood

yep but not all of them wants to be virgins :P

**To put it bluntly I'm a cold bitter narcasist.

And again sorry if this has offened anyone.**

Nah, I completely relate. There are very few people I could give two shits about.

Carly

Originally posted by Mog@May 7 2005, 05:49 PM
You know, it's odd… I often hear people talking about this subject, and it always surprises me what kind of an impact it makes on people. I guess that's something that lies in more sociological reasons, but I never really considered sex as such a ''big thing''. Now, don't get me wrong on that. What I mean is, the line between sex and simple kissing/showing love was never really clear to me. To me it's always been a method of showing love to someone, not some big breaking point in life or something you do for kicks.
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I think it's such a big thing because mainly of the implications that we as humans have deemed sex to have (and which have been ingrained into us to make the decision a serious one). One, that losing your virginity (supposedly) shows you're mature enough to make mature decisions regarding your life, two, the fact that sex is above else for procreation and that fornication would imply you'd be willing to bear a child with them, and three - that, physically, it is the most intimate thing a human can do.

When I was thirteen, I didn't realize any of the implications - only hormones and 'damn that felt good do it again'. I didn't realize that when you tell someone you lost your virginity at the age of thirteen you're seen as a slut. I didn't realize I wasn't in love and that I'd thrown away my virginity to someone who didn't deserve it.

Maybe men and women see things differently ? It might just be my own feminine thoughts that place serious value on the issue of virginity or the lack thereof, and my first time wasn't romantic, rewarding or satisfying (particularly after the fact and I began to realize 'oh my god, what did I just do'). That and I was terrified of the fact that neither of us used protection (though we didn't have to worry about the pregnancy part… which is getting into my way-too-private-plz territory) and I was gonna get AIDS and DIE OMG. :lol:

But - I dunno. You see it as 'just an act of love', I see it as 'ultimate intimacy'. Though I do agree that sex in itself is overrated (which it is), the societal connotations associated with virginity are way too steep to be ignored, and while most of the time I wouldn't care for stereotypes, having made such a callous and careless decision is something that changes my mind pretty irrevocably. :lol:

Buccaneer

Originally posted by wolfwood@May 7 2005, 09:54 PM
**whatcha talking about :P

of course love and romance exists im experiencing it right now with my girl :D

EDIT man there are lots of depressed and bitter people here i feel bad for ya but hopefuly you start beliving in love again ;)
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I'm only bitter that I was well aware that I didn't love the girl, and I still went with it. I just…..caved in, trying to be "the man," especially since the girl was much older. And I really hate doing things that can't be undone.

I'm 17 and a virgin as well. I'd like my first to mean something. Problem is I tend to ruin any friendship I've had with that girl by telling how I feel and then with her saying that there's someone else better out there. Such a mom answer.

Namisan18

Originally posted by DemonBoy@May 7 2005, 11:05 PM
eh, me no sex here. Wouldn't start a relationship with any girl at my school, mostly dumbasses who say the word like every 3 words in their sentences. Feel sorry for them when they graduate. and Namisan18 you really, really,reall, REALLY have a negative outlook at life like one of my friends at school, Just be glad you don't have family like mine they hit you for your way of life but you missed a few things my friend mention to me one time. Where the mentioning of Religion and it view points, or the halmark card crap.
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Ussually, as people know me from here would know, I'm not a tottaly evil goon that sits around her house menacing on how to make life miserable for others. I'm ussually pritty possitive. But when it comes to the subject about love and kids I really show my darkside. I guess everyone has it I think.

Carly

Originally posted by Buccaneer@May 7 2005, 07:11 PM
I'm only bitter that I was well aware that I didn't love the girl, and I still went with it. I just…..caved in. And I really hate doing things that can't be undone.
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You just summed up my entire spiel there in two sentences. :lol:

Konis

Marriage is a contract, I suppose you might be right.. to me, it's just a little piece of paper that says one person cares about another.. and even then, it may not always be the case. I'd like to someday marry my man, but it's not terribly important to either of us. We've been together so long, neither of us cares if a piece of paper "proves" it or not.

I have no problems with spending my life caring about another person. For me, it's miles better than being alone. I have someone who takes care of me, he has someone that takes care of him. We get along wonderfully.

It doesn't have to be a "chore" to be with another person, but to each their own.

Starlight

Originally posted by wolfwood@May 7 2005, 10:09 PM
yep but not all of them wants to be virgins :P
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That still doesn't defeat the purpose, that, they are in fact virgins. :P
So glad, thought everyone in this forums had already done it. :lol:

Looks like thedevil and i are the only people in here, who are not eager to try it out.

Too many things i'd like to do, like travelling before i even think of stuff like that. :lol:

VildaHawk

To those of you who are waiting until marriage, you still must educate youreslves about safe sex practices. Many people who think that they will not have sex until they are married disregard the information they hear, letting it go in one ear and out the other, and then end up in trouble if they later decide not to wait.

Spawnraven

Marriage is a contract, I suppose you might be right.. to me, it's just a little piece of paper that says one person cares about another.. and even then, it may not always be the case. I'd like to someday marry my man, but it's not terribly important to either of us. We've been together so long, neither of us cares if a piece of paper "proves" it or not.

Looks like there are still issue at hand here, judgeing by the number of pages there are since i left last night :lol:

I agree with Konis, i just don't see the importance of marriage. Must you marry someone to show you love them, not for me.

It's not that i'am against it, but to me marriage is like a last resort, it's like you're bored with each other, and to save the relationship, you get into marriage, and then there are those who now go for pre-nuptials agreement.

And when you finally do get married, you find out there nothing really special except a paper to say you love your partner.

Don't even start with the divorce.

**spawnraven:but you shouldnt just sleep with anybody just to lose your virginty,

and i myself only sleep with my girlfriends whom i love

wouldnt dream of sleeping withsome one i didnt care just for the sake of having sex**

Wolfwood, you got me wrong here, i didn't mean go around fooling with the girls for one-night stands, my dad brought me up better and he's taught me to respect the girls around me.

What i meant is that you don't have to wait till marriage to try it out, if it's someone special, and if both are willing partners, then there should be no problem

no no no is my vote …

Pepsi

-drumrolls-

I'm a virgin.

-silence-

….

I don't care if I lose it or not before I die. I'm more into selfsatisfaction, anyway. And being a virgin doesn't mean you are a saint or something. You can have done a lot of things, just not the real sex.
In my opinion, losing your virginity is overrated. Many people see it as such a big deal. Other want it to be special. I don't give a damn if I keep it or lose it. Although, I do want it to be kinda special if/when it happens.

No offence to anyone.

Spawnraven

Actually, i don't believe in someone being a total saint, well….. at least i'am not.

I too do not find it such a big deal being a virgin or not, heck i'am a virgin (what can i say, the local priest pounds it in my head about the SERIOUS offends of pre-marital sex)

but since the topic came out, i though of sharing out my thoughts (if any of them out there wanted to hear it) :D

Don't worry, Pepsi, no one was hurt in the making of that posting :lol:

Eddie

Yes,I'm a virgin.
May be I fear about sex. :mellow:

Nyssane

I'm not a virgin, but I wish I was (hate the guy I lost mine to).

Majek

nope. haven't had sex for a while though. maybe i should go out more these days.

Mog

But - I dunno. You see it as 'just an act of love', I see it as 'ultimate intimacy'. Though I do agree that sex in itself is overrated (which it is), the societal connotations associated with virginity are way too steep to be ignored, and while most of the time I wouldn't care for stereotypes, having made such a callous and careless decision is something that changes my mind pretty irrevocably.

The reasons you just summed were comprised mostly of, like I said, sociological reasons. Don't get me wrong, though. I'm totally fine with that, and I do understand your reasoning. And it's not that I view sex as just another way of showing love, either. It's more like… I don't think giving love in itself should be put into categories which put too much weight into certain things, and I think with sex people focus too much on the idea and the act instead of what it's supposed to mean, in that sense. Which gets the whole thing blown out of proportions.

And I don't think that's a male-female thing, because I can bet the largest part of the male population probably doesn't agree with me, and likewise with the female population. And also, my girlfriend shares the exact same views. It's just something we agreed upon to do, because we both knew we thought each other of being worth it instead of thinking it was a necessity or something of the like. It was something more deep into emotions than it was into sociological ideas of the act, which we both didn't really care about. I guess we were just very easy going, in that sense.

Which is why I think sex is overrated, but at the same time not taken seriously enough on an individual basis.

... Bah, I'm probably making even less sense than last night.

Shinagamithe3rd

Nope, I'm a love machine…and I wont work fo nobody but you (OHHH YEAH!)

Carly

Originally posted by Mog@May 8 2005, 06:55 AM
The reasons you just summed were comprised mostly of, like I said, sociological reasons. Don't get me wrong, though. I'm totally fine with that, and I do understand your reasoning. And it's not that I view sex as just another way of showing love, either. It's more like… I don't think giving love in itself should be put into categories which put too much weight into certain things, and I think with sex people focus too much on the idea and the act instead of what it's supposed to mean, in that sense. Which gets the whole thing blown out of proportions.

I did admit that my own thoughts on virginity are influenced by society, though :lol: But even so, my experiences reflect how I now view the subject and I suspect that if that hadn't happened, I'd just be like 'unnh emo kid sex is so totally lame just cause I can't get any, now I'm gonna listen to Linkin Park and whine about it'. :lol: (I'm not saying that's you either, bro) You lost yours to the right person (at the time, at least; it'd be really pretentious of me to guess about it now), I lost mine to someone I didn't have anything but a schoolgirl crush on. Yours was satisfying, mine wasn't. I think that's kind of the root of the disagreement, imo.

And I don't think that's a male-female thing, because I can bet the largest part of the male population probably doesn't agree with me, and likewise with the female population. And also, my girlfriend shares the exact same views. It's just something we agreed upon to do, because we both knew we thought each other of being worth it instead of thinking it was a necessity or something of the like. It was something more deep into emotions than it was into sociological ideas of the act, which we both didn't really care about. I guess we were just very easy going, in that sense.

I meant it in the sense that it's a typical viewpoint to take. A lot of men would (you have to admit) be really macho about the whole thing, girls would play it shy and 'oh, be gentle'. Yes, I'm generalizing, but I do have reason behind it :P

And I'm not sure I insinuated that sociological ideas are the true reason behind losing one's virginity O_o It SHOULD be about emotions and mutual connection/respect/love/etc, not about what society tells you to do (but turns out to be the case for many anyway). If you don't have the right relationship with your partner then the experience WILL NOT be as satisfying as if you were in the one that you absolutely KNEW was right. I have had far better sex than when I was thirteen and even from that, I know the actual act is overrated, but the recent times have been so much better because I actually HAD emotional connection. Do you see what I'm shooting at, or am I just aiming at flies here ? >_>

**Which is why I think sex is overrated, but at the same time not taken seriously enough on an individual basis.

… Bah, I'm probably making even less sense than last night.
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Nah, you're fine. I imagine that if I were in your shoes and vice versa, then we'd see things similarly, but eh !

warp

Originally posted by Nyssane@May 8 2005, 06:48 AM
I'm not a virgin, but I wish I was (hate the guy I lost mine to).
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are u gay? it says your a male and u lost it to a guy? :huh: jk jk jk jkj jk jk jk jk jk jk jk jk jk jk jk jk

you know im kidding right….................

_Originally posted by azuma joestar+May 7 2005, 04:04 PM–>QUOTE(azuma joestar @ May 7 2005, 04:04 PM)heh heh i had a mrs. robinson experience LOL
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dustin hoffman great actor and great movie

@May 8 2005, 08:48 AM
I'm not a virgin, but I wish I was (hate the guy I lost mine to).
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im not kidding ar u gay?

taboo

Ah well. I know I can't change people's minds about waiting till marriage or until you're at least engaged, but just remember if you have sex without protection:

Solid

Originally posted by taboo@May 8 2005, 01:14 PM
**Ah well. I know I can't change people's minds about waiting till marriage or until you're at least engaged, but just remember if you have sex without protection:

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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Though when I will have sex, of course I will use protection, but I hate condoms.. To tricky to put on, the best would be if the girl take those.. pills.

Pepsi

When I lose my virginity, I hope it is with a girl. <_<

Solid

Originally posted by Pepsi@May 8 2005, 01:23 PM
When I lose my virginity, I hope it is with a girl. <_<
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Ehm… Same here. :lol:

wolfwood

god the hilariousness is killing me :lol:

and solid its not that tricky :P
you`ll get the hang of it pretty easy…..

Starlight

You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselfs. Why can't you just wait till you've reached of age. :P Whatever happened to the good old days, when romance still prevailed. (I'm probably gonna get laughed at for this). :lol:

Pervs, 14 that's a record. I'm half expecting someone to say he's done it when he was just 13. :lol:

wolfwood

hey im a romantic :P

EDIT just cause i had sex before marrige doesnt mean i dont belive in romance and such ;)

Solid

My friends big brother did when he was 13… That's early. :P Or.. ok maybe.

And it is tricky to put on a condom... >:P And it's uncomfortable(sp?).

Starlight

Originally posted by wolfwood@May 8 2005, 01:34 PM
**hey im a romantic :P

EDIT just cause i had sex before marrige doesnt mean i dont belive in romance and such ;)
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That still doesn't defeat the purpose that you couldn't wait, what's the big deal in it anyway. Can't be that great right?. :lol:

Solid

Originally posted by Starlight+May 8 2005, 01:41 PM–>QUOTE(Starlight @ May 8 2005, 01:41 PM)

wolfwood

i could wait just that i didnt feel there is anything more romantic in waiting for marrige to have sex with someone you love or to have sex right now with someone you love.

and acctualy starlight its as great as it seems and its even better when your doing it with someone you love trust me youll se when you try it ;)

and solid id have to agree that its uncomfortable with a condom and you really dont feel anything.

Originally posted by Solid@May 8 2005, 01:39 PM
**My friends big brother did when he was 13… That's early. :P Or.. ok maybe.

And it is tricky to put on a condom... >:P And it's uncomfortable(sp?).
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you were probably using one that is too small
as for me i cant use one since they dont make condoms this huge

sanji-desu

When I was reading this topic I just watched mtv and it had a commercial about 'You never know whos been there' or something like that. meaning wear condoms…

Sometimes people make it sound as if it were no big deal at all. what do you think?

Spawnraven

**You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselfs. Why can't you just wait till you've reached of age. Whatever happened to the good old days, when romance still prevailed. (I'm probably gonna get laughed at for this).

Pervs, 14 that's a record. I'm half expecting someone to say he's done it when he was just 13.**

Hey, i know lots of famous guys who did it at 14.

The ones i know that lost it are Dean Cain and Orlando Blooms

Solid

Originally posted by lucciano_minhawk+May 8 2005, 01:46 PM–>QUOTE(lucciano_minhawk @ May 8 2005, 01:46 PM)

Starlight

Originally posted by wolfwood@May 8 2005, 01:45 PM
**i could wait just that i didnt feel there is anything more romantic in waiting for marrige to have sex with someone you love or to have sex right now with someone you love.

and acctualy starlight its as great as it seems and its even better when your doing it with someone you love trust me youll se when you try it ;)

and solid id have to agree that its uncomfortable with a condom and you really dont feel anything.
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I don't even think i want to try soon, there are too many things i'd like to do first. Travelling would be one. :lol:

Plus my parents would have a fit if i even attempted to date a guy. :lol:

And Solid, please tell me you're joking, your brother didn't really do it when he was 13 did he?. :blink:

Solid

Originally posted by Starlight+May 8 2005, 01:48 PM–>QUOTE(Starlight @ May 8 2005, 01:48 PM)