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Things we hate in anime
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passes the rootbeer
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Thought of one for the list
When the main character starts of as a shy, cowardly kid and then gets braver as the anime progresses, that may have been mentioned already, but it's something that kinda annoys me
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Huh, you want a wimpy shy kid for the whole series?
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That's one reason I love Neuro.
He's pretty much perfect from the get-go, and goes through the series being a huge dick and kicking everyone's asses.
And he probably has one of the best motivations out of any of the manga/anime main characters I've seen.
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The getting angry makes you stronger cliche. It's not just in anime, but in media in general. If you're facing off against a coward and go berserker, I can understand that they might be scared of that and lose their minds. But if you're fighting against someone who can keep their cool, and you lose yours, chances are you'll be beat every time. People who can keep a clear head in intense situations without losing themselves to emotions are generally very dangerous and very successful people.
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I hate shonen heros with spiky hair, can-do outgoing attitudes and good looks. Same goes for any friends, lovers and enemies they have.
I also hate bitches like Nami and Bulma who are on their period 24/7.
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Anime where they could do the same exact thing in a live adaptation.(I'm looking at you Lucky Star and Detective Conan) It just seems like a huge waste of paper/ink when they could hire actors to do the same thing.
Of course, I don't know the exact cost of either Live Action or Animation and which would add more. Point is, I don't go to watch anime to hear a bunch of people talking, I read a book or watch late night television.P.S. I was glad that Detective Conan got a one-hour live action special.
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Anime where they could do the same exact thing in a live adaptation.(I'm looking at you Lucky Star and Detective Conan) It just seems like a huge waste of paper/ink when they could hire actors to do the same thing.
Of course, I don't know the exact cost of either Live Action or Animation and which would add more. Point is, I don't go to watch anime to hear a bunch of people talking, I read a book or watch late night television.P.S. I was glad that Detective Conan got a one-hour live action special.
Don't say that, I'd actually be scared if I say all the abuse they do to the victim.
But it'll be awesome if they could pull the tricks in real life. -
They can't do Detective Conan in real life… There's no child actor with a head that huge.
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@Archibald:
The getting angry makes you stronger cliche. It's not just in anime, but in media in general. If you're facing off against a coward and go berserker, I can understand that they might be scared of that and lose their minds. But if you're fighting against someone who can keep their cool, and you lose yours, chances are you'll be beat every time. People who can keep a clear head in intense situations without losing themselves to emotions are generally very dangerous and very successful people.
Isn't that how Guts is though? Yet people think he's badass.
Anime where they could do the same exact thing in a live adaptation.(I'm looking at you Lucky Star and Detective Conan) It just seems like a huge waste of paper/ink when they could hire actors to do the same thing.
Of course, I don't know the exact cost of either Live Action or Animation and which would add more. Point is, I don't go to watch anime to hear a bunch of people talking, I read a book or watch late night television.P.S. I was glad that Detective Conan got a one-hour live action special.
You must really hate Death Note then.
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Isn't that how Guts is though? Yet people think he's badass.
Guts never stops thinking the middle of a fight though. His wits play just as important a role as his sword does. I'll admit, the Berserker Armor is a completely different story, but that thing has MAJOR drawbacks to wearing it. Most of the time protagonist rage creates an automatic win and results in the character being hurt for maybe a chapter or two, but no other ramifications are seen. When Guts uses the Berserker armor, he gets FUCKED UP (i.e. the latest chapter).
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Anime where they could do the same exact thing in a live adaptation. (I'm looking at you Lucky Star and Detective Conan) It just seems like a huge waste of paper/ink when they could hire actors to do the same thing.
Real people couldn't have such ridiculous motives for murder.
I'm sick of chibi scenes. Where did this idea come from?
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It's just overused.
And I think most shows wouldn't work in real life because some things are just too ridiculous to work. If enough money was put into CG, even crap like Pokemon could be made in Live Action.
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I like Case Closed, plus his kick wouldn't look as good in live action and didn't he already have a live action prequel series?
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Catgirls, seriously what the hell?
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Catgirls, seriously what the hell?
What I'm thinking is that authors of manga, and sometimes science-fiction or fantasy, are usually lonely, despondent people with little social life who live vicariously through their creations. Most people who don't know the joys of sunlight will own a cat as a pet if any. Cats are basically self-reliant creatures who treat their owners with contempt and scorn making them the perfect pets for shut-ins.
Now while looking on their kitty friend, and feeling the urge to have a relationship with something that wasn't ink and paper (or in the later days bits of colored light on a flashing screen), they thought wouldn't it be great if this cat was a woman I could keep as a pet, except I'm not socially capable enough to get a real woman. And lo and behold upon that ink and paper the first catgirl was born from the horrifying imagination of socially inept nerds, like most comics, sci-fi, and fantasy.
And that is how it is!
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I hate shonen heros with spiky hair, can-do outgoing attitudes and good looks. Same goes for any friends, lovers and enemies they have.
I also hate bitches like Nami and Bulma who are on their period 24/7.
I hate the bitches too.
And I agree with the good looks part.
speaking of spiky hair…
Goku, Luffy, and Ash (Satoshi?) have the same hair style. With slight variations. And they all are a bit dumb, different degrees. The only one of the three that was a loser..is Ash...he lost at the Pokemon League many a time. I believe.
LAWL, your catgirl explanation was hilarious, Archibauld.
But I like the ears...they're fuzzy!
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Catgirls where their mostly cat than girl. A girl that has cat-like features (i.e. ears, teeth, etc.) are better, not by much thought.
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Most "tsundere" girls. (Naru from Love Hina, Haruhi from that fucking series)
When most of the main characters don't look their age–either way too old (Prince of Tennis) or way too young (Lucky Star).
Series marketed toward the pedophile-otaku audience. LUCKY STAR
The "spunky" character with one fang poking out. GTFO snaggletooth.
The "megane" (glasses) stereotype. If you wear glasses, you are either a nerdy loser or a cool, manipulative bastard.
Unnecessary fanservice. To-LOVE-ru is the worst series currently running in Weekly Jump, in my opinion. It even has the average, somewhat spineless male lead, the energetic girl, the silent girl, the snooty girl, etc. And they all look about 12 or 13, face-wise.
That one pose the pure and Virgin Mary-like female characters always do, the one where they hold their hands together in front of them as if in prayer.
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the time in the fights where the protagonist is almost defeated then in comes a flashback or something which revitalize the protagonist and does a out of the blue one hit miracle punch
well every anime/manga has this kind of moments sometimes
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I really hate it when a single character can destroy an entire army by themselves, especially when they do so without getting tired.
I'm also not a fan of mecha anime. A lot of the robots look essentially the same and because, in a lot of series, the main character's mecha can take a lot of damage, but background characters using almost the same machine are destroyed in one hit.
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- Like smellyfeet mentioned, names on attacks. It gets annoying when you have to shout out an attack every time before you use it. Also gives the person shouting it a disadvantage; the opponent already knows what they're going to use.
Strangely enough,the oponent NEVER takes advantage of this.The best example is,whell,in a world where atacks are commonly known,its the bloodily hated "Poke-em-ON!" (I am NOT gonna spell THAT name corectly) where the stupid trainers shout out their stupid atack names so that even the other stupid creature can hear it and react,though theese stupid fighting/pet/retard like Poke-em-On never atack by themselves.I can understand it works in DBZ where the enemies are form other galaxies
and so have no idea about the atack,but in a world where practicaly evryone has an electronic cyclopedia ,witch tells them the names and details of ALL the atacks.And here are my hates:
1:Everyone,even from another quadrant (Star Trek,yes,its you) ,that have NEVER come into contact with humanity,yet ALL speak english/any curent language of the "team" to each other .
2:Having worlds (earth like) and distant planets,whose people only speak a single language
3:Having aliens have the exact same mentality as "earthlings".
4:Never killing any main characters (I WOULDNT like this in One Piece,but in other series it would be nice) and almost NO death,even when SUBSTANTIAL to the preceeding scene (Oda,you really MESSES UP with Pell)
5:Introducing characters and not giving them a name,even through a stupid "info square" and counting that people,who will want to know,will buy the databooks (like John Giant or the Buster Call vice admirals)
6:making 180 degree twists in the lives of the heroes and turnin them back in the same place (I dont know if any of you watch Kim Possible
(the fans on their forum,Club Shego really hate One Piece too,I wont even give you the link to where they say "One Piece anoyes the crap outa me" even though it turns out theyre dubees and when you explain to them about the edits (32 eps out of 142 original eps,removal of blood,death)
but the ocurences of both "Stop Team Go" (quasi main enemy of protagonist turned good and becoming "friends") and "Clean Slate" (main character loosing memory-seriously,you HAVE to see that episode,its bloody hilarious)
couldve been used for a longer plot each time-but they only use more-parters in that series for aparent season finales.)
7:Having heroes fight against STRONGER and STRONGER enemies in a chronological line-seriously,Oda did a briliant job making Luffy be able to defeat Enel,a possible 500 mil. bounty-head just because hes rubber and not 100 percently cause of strenght-now he can STIL have long fights with 300 mil. heads.But in DBZ,you tend to ,when you rewatch it,compare the former batles of a heroes to the later and see him as a "weakling" at the begining.
8:air-headed characters-though Luffy is done in a good fashion and could be a partial tribute to Goku a protagonist with a few brain cells wouldnt hurt.
9:making a 200 episode anime ,of witch 170 are about a certain goal and ending the series with that goal unfinished-like in Inuyasha,it kinda makes you think "hey,I watsed X months of my life for nothing.".
10:having a unilateral goal in an anime/manga ,defeating a main antagonist (Shaman King)
11:showing a good character and recycling him after hardly 4 pages (King Cold ,who was said to be even stronger then Freeza,with whom Goku fought for four minutes for like 2 hours (of screen time) was taken out rediculously easily :getlost: )
12:basic transformations
13:Mr.Satan (he qualifies as a UNIVERSAL hate in himself)
13 b:Having filler characters,whose conections to canon characters is ridiculously stupid (the mostly benevolent Johanthan being the protagé of Akainu,who without hesitation would do genocide upon the population of an entiere island?)
14:filler characters influencing universaly same plot about a main characters habits/profesion (Sanjis cooking,he had 3 cooking based fillers up till now) :getlost:
15:filler arcs being short and without a litle inteligent storyline
16:4 kids/edits to vital bibliographical details of a charatcer (making Lens father Lens UNCLE (shaman king) and artificialy creating a reason for his antagonism to the world (they killed his brother!,buuhuu)
17:4 kids/edits of names that normaly apear in real life (devil,angel,god, priest) even changing CHRISTMASS to Groundhogs day,even though, especialy in the US,not a single kid knows about christmas' religious impact.
18:crappy animation in important scenes (Buster Call of Enies Lobby)
19:editing of scenes with only WORDED nudity (the german rendition of nami's changing on board the sea train)(cant imagine how theire gonna do with the scene with nami in the bath on TB :getlost: )
20:edits in important scenes (german rendition of Toms death)
21:cuting out canon episodes (and writing around them stupidly)
22:cuting out filler episodes (and writing around them stupidly)
23:false rendition of names in dubs
24:having a world,where EVERYTHING is centered only around ONE thing (Poke-em-ON)
will add more ,dont have time.
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7:Having heroes fight against STRONGER and STRONGER enemies in a chronological line-seriously,Oda did a briliant job making Luffy be able to defeat Enel,a possible 500 mil. bounty-head just because hes rubber and not 100 percently cause of strenght-now he can STIL have long fights with 300 mil. heads.But in DBZ,you tend to ,when you rewatch it,compare the former batles of a heroes to the later and see him as a "weakling" at the begining.
I agree, especially in terms of DBZ. I remember how big a deal was made about Frieza having a power level of 1 million, but that meant next to nothing later on. Hell, I remember a GT episode where a henchman appeared that Goku said was nearly as strong as Buu. WHAT?!
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What I hate in anime is win the rival shows to be more powerful then the hero then the hero gets into a fight and the rival is watching and saying stuff like such power. then when the rival and hero fight again he forgets all that stuff and he beats the hero.
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I'm also not a fan of mecha anime. A lot of the robots look essentially the same and because, in a lot of series, the main character's mecha can take a lot of damage, but background characters using almost the same machine are destroyed in one hit.
I'd recommend watching Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, but the manliness might be way too much for most of this forum.
Another thing I hate about anime: immature fans that overreact to character traits/gags ("omg that character's gay wtf how disgusting burn in hell"). I don't know if I prefer these to the pedophiles on /a/, though.
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What I hate in anime is win the rival shows to be more powerful then the hero then the hero gets into a fight and the rival is watching and saying stuff like such power. then when the rival and hero fight again he forgets all that stuff and he beats the hero.
Wait.. what?
OH! I forgot one thing. A continue to the anime girls hatred.
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o.O wow…
Okay, now you've got me started:
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I HATE MONOLOGUES!!!
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Why does every big bad guy have to make a long speech then CACKLE maniacally at the end??? (My respect to CP9 for they don't do this. Partly the reason I love them. They aren't overly stereotypical.)
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Girls with lost brothers who see that brother in the main character and fall in love with them because of it! That's basically implications of incest. Works vice versa too.
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The obligatory mystery man who helps, then fights, then helps the main character until it's revealed he's a relative or childhood friend.
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MARY SUES!!!
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GARY STUS!!!
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Over compensation. When every main character has a sword that they should not be able to even lift let alone swing. Good examples: Ichigo (Bleach), Cloud (Final Fantasy) etc. It's just phallic symbolism.
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Women with huge busts. WHY do people naturally assume that all anime girls, even little girls, have to have breasts the size of coconuts!
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The "Finding yourself" line. It's cliche, so come on and think of something other than: "I must get stronger! The world depends on me!"
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Stereotyping. Enough said.
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The essential love triangle. PUHLEEZ!
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Episodes where the main character is beaten by a villain and then, miraculously, manages to strike the enemy down with one hit! (sorry, but OP's a prime example of this.)
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Idiotic main characters
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Idiotic villains. Comic relief is fine, but don't make EVERY VILLAIN COMICAL!!!
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Creating an amazingly different character with wonderful quirks and a unique personality, then STUFFING THEM IN THE BACK ROW AND HAVING THEM TURN UP FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES IN FIVE EPISODES!!! (Example: Mayuri Kurotsuchi from Bleach. Complete whackjob, but an excellent character. Appeared in about four episodes…)
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Every main hero is either cute, beautiful or handsome... people do have flaws y'know...
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Secret weapons/characters that could wipe the floor with yo ass that, somehow, get beaten by the heroic twerp that struggled with the random guard in the hallway two episodes ago.
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Gaining strength. That's fine, but not when the power of the hero goes from 1000 to 5000 as a result of an episode of journeying/training.
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Immortality...
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Godlike powers for heroes or an otherwise unfair advantage for the hero, who is supposedly 'pure'.
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This one really irks me...
I hate it when a main good guy beats every single villain on either their first or second try. Firstly, in the example of Luffy vs. Lucci, note that the first time they fought, Lucci kicked his ass without a scratch. A few episodes afterwards Luffy fights again and beats him. Now, this isn't so bad really, because Lucci actually put up a really good fight and COULD have won.
However, I hate it when, in other animes, the good guy is brutally beaten, then comes back next episode and trashes the bad guy easily. No... Just no!
Geez, get a clue writers!!!
I need to sleep now... Huggles Lucci and Kaku plushies
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- Over compensation. When every main character has a sword that they should not be able to even lift let alone swing. Good examples: Ichigo (Bleach), Cloud (Final Fantasy) etc. It's just phallic symbolism.
The zanpakuto in Bleach are basically extensions of the user's soul, so they don't weigh much if at all. Lucky for Noitora, then. Cloud's just a weirdo, though. Speaking of phallic symbolism, Mayuri wears his sword in front of his crotch, rather than his side. lolwut
But it's basically accepted that swords are phallic symbols. So what does this make Zoro? Or Kaku–his body is made of penes?!
8) Women with huge busts. WHY do people naturally assume that all anime girls, even little girls, have to have breasts the size of coconuts!
The "delicious-flat-chest" syndrome (plus 12-year-old face) can be worse though, if pretty much every female in the series is affected. (LUCKY STAR goddamnit why do the moms look pre-pubescent too)
19) Immortality…
V-Viral…! ;_;
Anyway, for some of my own contributions:
Yuu Watase. Goddamn her stories are terrible; her heroine of choice seems to be the whiny, immature, selfish type (which isn't necessarily bad, but they never get any character development) and the supporting cast is never much better. Apparently she's doing a BL (boys' love whaaat) story? That's going to extra-terrible, since she doesn't know how to write men, either.
When there's no facial variation between the main characters (of one gender)--just different hair styles and eye colors. One of the many reasons why I love One Piece; Katekyo Hitman Reborn! does it very subtly, too. (Actually, Tsuna's been looking more and more like his female love interest lately, haha.)
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@Rai:
Wait.. what?
OH! I forgot one thing. A continue to the anime girls hatred.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9775/1187249113972ga5.jpg
Interestingly enough none of those girls looked the legal or consensual age.
I'd rather have chaaracters be infatuated with loose women with gigantic breasts than 'Oh I'm so innocent and young but I'm going to put you in sexually charged situations' characters.
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Mr. Satan is one of the greatest characters ever conceived
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Back when I was still a snot-nosed little kid in the single-digits age, I found Mr. Satan really annoying. Now that I have matured, I can fully appreciate and enjoy his character design.
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- Over compensation. When every main character has a sword that they should not be able to even lift let alone swing. Good examples: Ichigo (Bleach), Cloud (Final Fantasy) etc. It's just phallic symbolism.
While giant, dumb-looking weapons are, indeed, fucking stupid, they're hardly "symbolic" of anything. It just results from designers with poor taste.
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Well at least Hiro mashima took the big sword thing alittle bit further by making the sword have that explosion move even though, it wasn't ta real creative attack. Do the 10 different forms count?
I never really like Rave Master to continue seeing the rest.
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Back when I was still a snot-nosed little kid in the single-digits age, I found Mr. Satan really annoying. Now that I have matured, I can fully appreciate and enjoy his character design.
When Ill get ofensive,youll be the first to know.
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When Ill get ofensive,youll be the first to know.
Hmm? I'm just stating the facts. My older cousin had the Korean-translated volumes of Dragonball (which was pretty poorly censored concerning Bulma and her panty-flashing), which I skimmed through. I didn't like Mr. Satan, and when I watched the Cell Saga on Toonami, I didn't like him then either. Now that I'm older, I understand his role as comic relief. Plus, he has pretty rockin' facial hair.
By the way, you pronounce his name like "satang" in Korean, which means candy. And Son Goku was Sohn Ogong, which confused me a tad, but that's the Korean version of the original Chinese name.
Oh, now I have something to add to the thread, sort of. More like an annoyance, though: changing names when translating. It's understandable when a language doesn't have the required sounds for pronouncing certain names. Like Zoro is Joro in Korean, but why is Sanji Sangdi? We have the characters necessary for spelling out Sanji. And for some reason Kohza is Yuja, Jabura is Jebura, etc. On a brighter note, Ace is changed from Eesu to Eisu, so yeah.
The "tsu" sound is also turned into "chu," when "ssu" would be more fitting. So like Hitsugaya=Hichugaya, Tsunayoshi=Chunayoshi, etc. C'mon translators, get your stuff together.
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I know someone said this before in the thread, but I wonder why people hate so much busty girls. They are drawn like that dude, calm down. Or is it their personality that annoy more? (though Chizuru Naba of Negima is very busty but is a quite interesting character)
What annoys me concerning more or less breasts is the excessive use of fanservice in a manga/anime. One of the few things that I dislike in Negima, btw.
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There is one simple reason why those women have big breasts.
Have you ever seen a Japanese women with average/big sized ones?
[Directed at people who KNOW HOW TO TAKE A JOKE]
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I know someone said this before in the thread, but I wonder why people hate so much busty girls. They are drawn like that dude, calm down. Or is it their personality that annoy more? (though Chizuru Naba of Negima is very busty but is a quite interesting character)
What annoys me concerning more or less breasts is the excessive use of fanservice in a manga/anime. One of the few things that I dislike in Negima, btw.
It's not so much that I dislike it, it's just that it detracts from other aspects of the character. Plus, as a girl, it always annoys me when people say: "OMG I love insert name from insert anime/manga 'cause her boobs are huge!!!!111!!1!1!1 lolololol"
That really irritates me. So it's not so much the design itself as much as what that kind of thing evokes.
I also agree with you in the fanservice aspect. I hate it also when shallow characters are paid more attention to just because of the size of their rack.
I don't know, it just irritates me.
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When Ill get ofensive,youll be the first to know.
OH NO! WE GONE AND DID IT NOW YOU GUYS!!!
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It's not so much that I dislike it, it's just that it detracts from other aspects of the character. Plus, as a girl, it always annoys me when people say: "OMG I love insert name from insert anime/manga 'cause her boobs are huge!!!!111!!1!1!1 lolololol"
Oh like what people do with Hinata from Naruto right?
That really irritates me. So it's not so much the design itself as much as what that kind of thing evokes.
I also agree with you in the fanservice aspect. I hate it also when shallow characters are paid more attention to just because of the size of their rack.
I don't know, it just irritates me.
Yeah point taken, but I would think that people also like those characters because of their personalities as well. At least I would hope they like them due to their personalities.
Besides I see more people lusting over lucky star characters and the Rei Ayanami archaetype like Nagato from Haruhi Suzumiya over the big boobed characters.
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Besides I see more people lusting over lucky star characters and the Rei Ayanami archaetype like Nagato from Haruhi Suzumiya over the big boobed characters.
This is because they are pedophiles.
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This is because they are pedophiles.
Then there must be a whole lotta pedophiles in the anime community then.
but then again I liked the girls drawn with big boobs. One of the reasons I liked the anime Grenadier the senshi of smiles. I mean come on the girl reloads her gun by bouncing her breasts because her spare bullets are stored in her cleavage!
Fanservice or not that's pretty damn hot.
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Then there must be a whole lotta pedophiles in the anime community then.
You'd be surprised.
Damn it, /a/.
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The things people bring up in this topic…hilarious.
My opinions stand firm. I hate annoying bitches. I hate cliches. I hate flashbacks and tragic histories.
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1 Big breasted women in like every anime ever. :/
2 Kagome type characters.
3 Mr.Satan
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I'm indifferent on love/hate Mr. Satan case, but I'm curious to know why you loathe him so much, Kaze.
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1 Big breasted women in like every anime ever. :/
3 Mr.Satan I politely disagree.
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3 Mr.Satan
Thank you !
16-CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS!!!
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When the first 10 minutes is a recap of the last episode, and the other 10 minutes are just yadda yadda and crap like, "MY POWER WILL OWN YOU N00B!@@@11!11!!1"
Like in DBZ, when 5 minutes in the story looked like it was worth about 5 episodes.