so, sasufreak still looks like crap and i like the young orochimaru. he's kinda cute. i'm ok with reading the past of orochimaru, i always thought that when he was in the sannins he was kinda cool. yeah, that was before he met voldemort… man... a snake. orochimaru is... A SNAKE! WHAT?
Naruto Mega-Discussion of Extreme Bloat II (May not contain any Naruto Discussion)
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Snakes are always used as the villian's "thing". Snakes represent evil and, besides, Orochimaru from the original old story was a ninja who used snakes to fight Jiriya.
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Decent chapter, not the best tho. I like that Orochi is getting some character development and the fight is nice. But To see the main villian reduced to such a pitifull state is disheartening.
I really hope Orochi unveils some new Jutsus and such because right now, he looks pathetic begging for Sasuke's body. The guy is bed-ridden, and he's about to be wiped off the map in 2 chapters. Sad, just sad.
Kishi please don't fuck it up with another Kakuzu repeat. I prefer he wait till near the end of the series to kill off Orochi, but if he must die, let him go out with a bang, not a whimper.
On another note, I love how much of a prick Sasuke is being in this chapter. I love the shit-talking attitude. The psychological mindfuck he just gave Orochi was just brilliant in every word. I actually like Sasuke now.
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Well, my money's on Orochimaru somehow managing to occupy Sasuke's body as planned before he bites the dust. Then the manga's final villain might be Orochimaru-Sasuke, and there will be all kinds of character crises for Naruto and Sakura when they are forced with deciding to slay Sasuke or not.
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Decent chapter, not the best tho. I like that Orochi is getting some character development and the fight is nice. But To see the main villian reduced to such a pitifull state is disheartening.
I really hope Orochi unveils some new Jutsus and such because right now, he looks pathetic begging for Sasuke's body. The guy is bed-ridden, and he's about to be wiped off the map in 2 chapters. Sad, just sad.
Kishi please don't fuck it up with another Kakuzu repeat. I prefer he wait till near the end of the series to kill off Orochi, but if he must die, let him go out with a bang, not a whimper.
Uh…the difference between Kazuku and Orochimaru is that Kazuku wasn't around for 300 chapters.
So far, having Sasuke kill Oro seems like a more creative option then having Jiraya or the Akatsuki do it. Considering that some of the Akatsuki are stronger then Oro, then that conflict would end with the drama of a mob assassination.
At least here, Oro's death has irony. He's old, bed-ridden, and being killed by his latest source of life. That and, if Oro wins then odds are Sasuke will be unconscious for the rest of the arc--which isn't happening considering his popularity in Japan and his importance to the plot of the story.
Nah, I'm pretty sure Oro's gonna die, and I personally want to see it. The akatsuki are the real villians anyway--one of their members if stronger then him already and he's not even the boss.
Of course, there is still the matter of the curse mark. But, considering that Sasuke's coming up with all these new moves, he probably has something for that too.
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If Oro dies, I want some beyond the grave things happening with him later in the story.
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Uh…the difference between Kazuku and Orochimaru is that Kazuku wasn't around for 300 chapters.
So far, having Sasuke kill Oro seems like a more creative option then having Jiraya or the Akatsuki do it. Considering that some of the Akatsuki are stronger then Oro, then that conflict would end with the drama of a mob assassination.
At least here, Oro's death has irony. He's old, bed-ridden, and being killed by his latest source of life. That and, if Oro wins then odds are Sasuke will be unconscious for the rest of the arc--which isn't happening considering his popularity in Japan and his importance to the plot of the story.
Nah, I'm pretty sure Oro's gonna die, and I personally want to see it. The akatsuki are the real villians anyway--one of their members if stronger then him already and he's not even the boss.
Of course, there is still the matter of the curse mark. But, considering that Sasuke's coming up with all these new moves, he probably has something for that too.
It's not so much Oro's death that bothers me. I'm fine with the fact that he'll be killed by Sasuke, but what bothers me is the pitiful state Oro is in. Coughing up blood, bed-ridden, and begging Sasuke for his body is unfit for a main villian.
All sins will be forgiven if Orochi puts up a good fight. As long as he lives up to the Sannin name in his final (if it's indeed the case) fight, I'll be content with his death.
But yeah, I may be jumping the gun a bit, Orochi just may have some tricks up his sleeve next chapter. So we'll see.
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Does anybody else think that Kishi is trying to make Orochimaru's actions seem justified by making some backstory? It seems like hes just trying to live long enough to see his parents again reborn like the Third said would happen.
If he does die, then whatever. Orochimaru never really did show any true motive of world domination, he just seemed mad or insane. If Sasuke kills him then its whatever to me.
Sasuke however, is what is a mystery is. Will he still have the seal if Oro is dead? Will he go after others to test his skill like Itachi did, making him finally become his brother? Will he go after Itachi himself now?
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@ultimateclima:
Will he go after others to test his skill like Itachi did, making him finally become his brother?
I thought the quote of itachi "to test my bla" was to show that sasuke despises both oro's and itachi's motivation meaning sasuke wouldn't kill for power or power checks.
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Yeah, it's saying that Sasuke hates the way Itachi and Orochimaru use others to further their own power.
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The tittle of this chapter is "Rebirth", it sounds me from the previous summaries, ummm…
According with WinterLion's translations, at the end of the chapter says this:
**Side text: Good fortune, rebirth… and immortality. The monster that was born from such a twisted wish, is now the prey of an even grater monster
Next Chap Preview: The master and student know each other well... The result of the clash between them is?! Next issue: "New Era"!!** New Era… what does it means?
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It's not so much Oro's death that bothers me. I'm fine with the fact that he'll be killed by Sasuke, but what bothers me is the pitiful state Oro is in. Coughing up blood, bed-ridden, and begging Sasuke for his body is unfit for a main villian.
All sins will be forgiven if Orochi puts up a good fight. As long as he lives up to the Sannin name in his final (if it's indeed the case) fight, I'll be content with his death.
But yeah, I may be jumping the gun a bit, Orochi just may have some tricks up his sleeve next chapter. So we'll see.
Hey man, Orochimaru did NOT beg Sasuke for his body. He actually demanded it. But anyway, it was an okay chapter - we need more fighting! I'm not sure if Oro is actually gonna die. First of all, he's a main villain and 2nd, Kabuto noticed something so he's gonna come. One more thing - if Oro dies, I doubt it will affect Sasuke's curse seal. Think about it. Although the 4th's jutsu was different, the seal was not undone with his death. I think the same thing applies. Oh yeah, can Oro even make handseals in his current state? It appears he is just a beast for now.
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If he's just a beast, then he shouldn't need hand signs. Kyuubi Naruto doesn't need handsigns, nor did Yugito, so why should he?
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@Impel:
If he's just a beast, then he shouldn't need hand signs. Kyuubi Naruto doesn't need handsigns, nor did Yugito, so why should he?
Actually, that's sort of what I was refering to. So I guess Oro will fight with brute force and some of his 'interlect'. But lets not forget that he is one of the most unpredictable people in this manga. So, we'll see…
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I'm also going to go ahead and speculate that Sasuke will use Curse Seal lv.3
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Well, my money's on Orochimaru somehow managing to occupy Sasuke's body as planned before he bites the dust. Then the manga's final villain might be Orochimaru-Sasuke, and there will be all kinds of character crises for Naruto and Sakura when they are forced with deciding to slay Sasuke or not.
i'll bet on that too! i thought to be the only one to consider the possibility of sasuke being defeated and taken by oro..
@ultimateclima:
Does anybody else think that Kishi is trying to make Orochimaru's actions seem justified by making some backstory? It seems like hes just trying to live long enough to see his parents again reborn like the Third said would happen.
nah, don't think so..prob that grin just showed the rising interest and desire for rebirth and immortality in oro..
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@Impel:
I'm also going to go ahead and speculate that Sasuke will use Curse Seal lv.3
That might be cool - as long as he gets a cooler look than lv2. I hope Oro does not get his body though.
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or or OR!, Sasuke takes Orochimaru's body! He could have learned it from him!
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or or OR!, Sasuke takes Orochimaru's body! He could have learned it from him!
Ha ha. I can imagine:
In the end Sakura starts dating with Sasuke who still has Orochimaru's body. Can you imagine their childs? -
Ugh, no. And why does Orochimaru need all this medicine? Jiriya, Tsunade, and the Sandaime were around his age, but they were healthy enough to not need drugs.
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Ugh, no. And why does Orochimaru need all this medicine? Jiriya, Tsunade, and the Sandaime were around his age, but they were healthy enough to not need drugs.
You silly. Orochimaru have AIDS. Too much sex with Kabuto.
And when Sasuke gets Orochimaru's body and have sex with Sakura…
Well knowing Sakura, the hole village will soon die.That is Orochimaru's final revenge.
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@Impel:
Ugh, no. And why does Orochimaru need all this medicine? Jiriya, Tsunade, and the Sandaime were around his age, but they were healthy enough to not need drugs.
Sandaime? He was well older than the 3 of them.
It probably has to do with Orochimaru's wacky immortality body taking jutsu. I guess when the body starts to break down he needs the medicine to not be retarded
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Yeah, I guess so. And if Orochimaru's parents turn out to be incredably revelvent to the plot, I will put a trash can through a window, I tell you.
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Ugh. Could have lived without seeing Oro's "true body". Sasuke's second form isn't much better. What's the point of having two webbed feet/hands sticking out of your back?
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Kind of shitty chapter in terms of writing but I enjoyed Sasuke being a dick and seeing stuff happen. Yeah, I have low standards.
Sasuke's second form isn't much better. What's the point of having two webbed feet/hands sticking out of your back?
Well, you know those pesky itches you can never quite reach…
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Sasuke's second form isn't much better. What's the point of having two webbed feet/hands sticking out of your back?
As we've already seen, it lets him fly and I'm guessing he can punch/grab/do hand stuff with them.
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It's supposed to have a link with the blood of Tengu or whatever.
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the what now?
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So if Orochimaru dies does that mean they'll complete the shikon jewel?
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It's a surprisingly good theory floating somewhere on Narutofan about Uchiha Madara the founder of the Uchiha clan being the son of a human woman from Konoha and a Tengu, which is some kind of Japanese winged demon. It'd explain the sharingan, Sasuke's tranny form when using cs and why Kyuubi said Uchiha's chakra was even more evil than his own.
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I think Sasuke's CS2 kicks ass, personally. And that Madara theory isn't bad.
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Tengu are Japanese birdman demons who're said to be related to ninjas and ninjutsu.
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Well, there ya go! Everything worked out perfectly. Also, does anyone think Anko will activate her curse seal in Part 2?
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So now the theory about the dark secret of the uchiha has infected ap too. i assume now everyone agrees itachi is the most sophisticated character in naruto and will offer his body to the real end boss, the tengu king^^
imo it would have been enough to say that the uchiha have lots of tengu symbols around.
the rest is fan fiction.
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You know what? With the revelation of Orochimaru's parents it's truly obvious who AL is…
It's Orochimaru's DAD!
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You know what? With the revelation of Orochimaru's parents it's truly obvious who AL is…
It's Orochimaru's DAD!
Impossible. Obviously AL is Manbearpig. True Story
Oh yeah, love the theory that Aldrich posted from NF. One of the rare gems in the Naruto Forums.
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after the Tengu were mention was anyone elses 1st thought this
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Naruto is the legendary Orange-Ranger.
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Anyone here knows how to get easy rep at Narutofan? I'm missing something like 10 rep points to get the 6th little green square, the bright green one. That shit's driving me crazy. CRAZY!!!!
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bored, I see, Aldrich.
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you could ask nicely…..>.>
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Man, you have no idea.
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I'll give you some rep Aldrich. Any other interesting theories you came across?
Also, as you've seen today Aldrich, the NF Outskirts Battledome is full of sh** isn't it? Full of nutjobs
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Thanks man, consider me to be in your debt 4EVA
No other interesting theories, most of the speculative talk seems to be about who'll bang who at the end.
edit Holy shit yeah. Pipboy is a fucking riot, I think I'm a fan. Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined someone would reach such a level of nerdiness. Behold the fierce veteran e-warrior of the outskirts battledome, survivor of many a battle between cartoon characters!
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I could give you some rep. I've got like 49,000 or something… >__>
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Well yeah, it'd be appreciated, thanks. I love to see the shiny little squares below my avatar, I'm a vain prick like that.
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I think Pip gets alittle too into the OB. He seriously believes he's the best poster alive. After you left Aldrich, he proceeded to throw cheap insults, ad-hominen, and uneccessarily long post/words at you in all his douchebag glory. He's tryin too hard to be like Kisame.
But anyways, on second read, the chapter was alittle better. I honestly did not like it that much at first, but I came around because the plot is finally moving again and I'm dying to see Kabuto make his move. If there was ever a time to strike, it'd be now while Orochi or Sasuke is vulnerable. (assuming Kabuto has a plan like I think he does).
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I believe Kabuto is the tengu king in disguise. I've once seen a picture of a tengu with red eyes just like kabuto's eyes at the exams.
edit: but since there also are spectacled cobras in the world we've obviously got strong hints that kabuto is in fact orochimaro O_O
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NF has confirmed that the fight will finish in the next chapter.
Now, start the bets. Who will win?
My bet: Neither one, but it's possible that in the last moment, Orochimaru introduces into Sasuke's body. Anyway, I say draw.
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woah, how does NF confirm something unreleased when the spoilers don't come out until the extremely very earliest monday?