cant rubber resist compression of blackhole
not again,eneru was enough!!!!
kidding ,it might but i don't think sucking someone is BB's advantage,but negating his powers.which in luffy's case means the gears
cant rubber resist compression of blackhole
not again,eneru was enough!!!!
kidding ,it might but i don't think sucking someone is BB's advantage,but negating his powers.which in luffy's case means the gears
not again,eneru was enough!!!!
kidding ,it might but i don't think sucking someone is BB's advantage,but negating his powers.which in luffy's case means the gears
You think maybe Ace should've used a condom before fighting Blackbeard? Huh? Do ya?
@IT'S:
You think maybe Ace should've used a condom before fighting Blackbeard? Huh? Do ya?
a condom! it's a rubber! Luffy totally has a chance now!!!!
Now I see it being very feasible for Luffy to win. I mean BB doesn't even use real black holes. You have to be FTL to escape a real blackhole, and we know Ace isn't FTL. I'm interested to see how Luffy will fight with his powers being nullified tho. Can't wait
FTL? No idea what that is. For some reason, the anime version of this fight seems like it'd be Dub Piece'd.
@IT'S:
You think maybe Ace should've used a condom before fighting Blackbeard? Huh? Do ya?
so that is your inspiration on AIDS (nice name btw)
maybe ace used,maybe those papers he gives to people aren't only papers
What, they're square condoms?
@Impel:
FTL? No idea what that is. For some reason, the anime version of this fight seems like it'd be Dub Piece'd.
FTL = Faster than the speed of light
Random theory of the day: As BOTH shanks and Ace have made a apparence, and they both are featured in the anime intro, could mihawk soon appear?
So you're saying to escape, you'd need to be "FTL"…..... or or OR! You could slow down the black hole itself! The return of Foxy, of course! Why didn't I see it before!
No! No! We know humans can't take the pressure of a black hole, but fishmen are built for handling pressure. Kuroobi said so in chapter 86! He's coming back! He's gonna trip Blackbeard with his hair and send him dropping into a lake!
No! This one's Nami's fight! Slap some dials on the Clima Tact and make wind faster than light that sucks things out of Blackbeard!
Maybe Blackbeard's body is like Usopp's purse! Full of weird rubbish he's gathered along the Grand Line! All Blue is inside him! Sanji's going to charge right into Blackbeard!
:collapses laughing:
Is Blackbeard immune to the effects of seawater/seastone etc.?
No! No! We know humans can't take the pressure of a black hole, but fishmen are built for handling pressure. Kuroobi said so in chapter 86! He's coming back! He's gonna trip Blackbeard with his hair and send him dropping into a lake!
No! This one's Nami's fight! Slap some dials on the Clima Tact and make wind faster than light that sucks things out of Blackbeard!
Maybe Blackbeard's body is like Usopp's purse! Full of weird rubbish he's gathered along the Grand Line! All Blue is inside him! Sanji's going to charge right into Blackbeard!
:collapses laughing:
Aboslutly not. But I don't think he can absorb sea water and/or sea stone. I think as soon as the vortex comes in contact with sea stone or water, it stops.
Is Blackbeard immune to the effects of seawater/seastone etc.?
FUCK no. Is a toilet immune to shit-stains??
@IT'S:
FUCK no. Is a toilet immune to shit-stains??
Yes
16 char….....
Thanks BF! Great chapter!
The whole BB/sea stone controversy, started by me, has really generated interesting ideas.
@Impel:
What, they're square condoms?
their wrappings are,if a mod comes in…..................
Yes
16 char….....
Well, maybe your toilet is. But as for me and my toilet, we're gonna… not finish that sentence.
Theoretically, shouldn't Teach have felt the heat from Ace's mini-sun before he could get close enough to attack? What a great way of making the outcome uncertain.
Just out of curiosity, just what in the hell are we basing Wb's strength on? Is there something in the manga i missed? Cuz so far all I've seen of him was him talking…Basically all i see that weve got to go on is the rank and seeing as how far down BB is, id say his chances are little to none.
Well, they always say he's the strongest man in the world. And he rivaled Gol D.'s strength. And he and Shanks cut a cloud in half. And he's really muscular. And he's a Yonkou. But beyond that, not much.
Just out of curiosity, just what in the hell are we basing Wb's strength on? Is there something in the manga i missed? Cuz so far all I've seen of him was him talking…Basically all i see that weve got to go on is the rank and seeing as how far down BB is, id say his chances are little to none.
I'm pretty sure we're basing his strength on the fact that he's been stated to be the World's Strongest Man.
Well, and EVERYTHING ELSE I FREAKIN' SAID!
I REAALLY hope is Ace is dead. Ace dying would make up for the lackluster Usopp reunion.
Also BB's logia seems abit weak to me,atleast in a Luffy fight. Luffy is pure physical strength, even without his stretching ability, pulling Luffy in for a face to face battle seems dumb..
Although since BB could pwn Shanks with HIS physical strength alone…maybe I'm wrong?
Since Blackbeard can nullify DF powers, Luffy would then be vulnerable to a punch in the gut, like his brother.
Thank you very much, Battle Franky!
Whitebeard might be the strongest man in the world, but we don't know how strong that is. We've seen him do a grand total of one thing, that's not nearly enough to base the fact that Teach can't beat him.
I don't understand why people are riding Blackbeard off as nothing just because he can get hit. A lot of people in the One Piece world are vulnerable to basic punching and kicking, but it doesn't make them any less powerful. Hell, Shanks got his arm bitten off by a low level sea monster that Luffy destroyed in one hit. That doesn't mean (presently or in the past) that Shanks wasn't damn powerful. Despite a character's massive strength, they're still susceptible to everything a basic human is even if they can take whopping loads more of it. Frankly, a shot between the eyes would probably make Shanks just as dead as it would your basic civilian. That constant weakness is what makes the One Piece world unique compared to other situations where 'I have reached a power level of insert ridiculously exponential number here now bullets bounce off me.' (Yes I know bullets bounce off Luffy but we all know he's not invincible)
Devil Fruit users go either way in this category. In this case, Blackbeard still has the basic human weaknesses (albeit with incredibly enhanced strength and durability) along with an ability that augments those abilities rather than replacing them. Doesn't make him any less of a threat just because he's not invincible.
The only other way to beat BB I can think of is to attack him with a force so painful, that it doesn't matter that he doesn't take damage.
Blackbeard does take damage.
No, it says that he absorbs the attack, so there's no damage, but he still feels pain.
@Impel:
No, it says that he absorbs the attack, so there's no damage, but he still feels pain.
thats what i thought: in the chapter he doesn't seem to have any wounds from any of the hits he took.
the way I understood it is that he feels the pain resulting from an attack but because he's a logia he still doesn't get injured.
the other thing I noticed is that with the exception of the vortex attack, everything has to come into contact with the darkness to actually get sucked in and that could be the biggest problem since if he was to surround himself he'd be pretty much invulnerable.
@Archibald:
I don't understand why people are riding Blackbeard off as nothing just because he can get hit. A lot of people in the One Piece world are vulnerable to basic punching and kicking, but it doesn't make them any less powerful. Hell, Shanks got his arm bitten off by a low level sea monster that Luffy destroyed in one hit. That doesn't mean (presently or in the past) that Shanks wasn't damn powerful. Despite a character's massive strength, they're still susceptible to everything a basic human is even if they can take whopping loads more of it. Frankly, a shot between the eyes would probably make Shanks just as dead as it would your basic civilian. That constant weakness is what makes the One Piece world unique compared to other situations where 'I have reached a power level of insert ridiculously exponential number here now bullets bounce off me.' (Yes I know bullets bounce off Luffy but we all know he's not invincible)
Devil Fruit users go either way in this category. In this case, Blackbeard still has the basic human weaknesses (albeit with incredibly enhanced strength and durability) along with an ability that augments those abilities rather than replacing them. Doesn't make him any less of a threat just because he's not invincible.
I am sorry, but I think Blackbeard is now virtually the Pirate King…... because there doesn't seem to be anyone that can beat him YET........
Blackbeard's going to have to fight EVERYONE now…
I think that Shanks's crew is next in line...
Shanks vs Blackbeard
Beckman vs Burgesss
Yasopp vs Van Auger
Lucky Roux vs Lafitte
Rockstar vs Doc Q ? ()
It would give us insight as to how dangerous the Blackbeard crew really is... afterall, Shanks is a Yonkou, and his individual crewmembers are feared as well.
@Sogeking:
Blackbeard's going to have to fight EVERYONE now…
I think that Shanks's crew is next in line...
Shanks vs Blackbeard
Beckman vs Burgesss
Yasopp vs Van Auger
Lucky Roux vs Lafitte
Rockstar vs Doc Q ? ()It would give us insight as to how dangerous the Blackbeard crew really is... afterall, Shanks is a Yonkou, and his individual crewmembers are feared as well.
yeah I agree Shanks and BB are going to clash.
Rematch Shanks left the battle field with BB's teeth.
BB scar Shanks in the eye.
No one knows who won/who is stronger, but the rematch will let us know.
LOL
No! This one's Nami's fight! Slap some dials on the Clima Tact and make wind faster than light that sucks things out of Blackbeard!
Nami sucking -things out of- Blackbeard sure sounds like a great idea for a chapter.
3 more days till next spoilers!!!…. I can't hardly wait for it!!!
I think it's the "OHKO" of Whitebeard by Blackbeard that is going to happen next...... before the round 2 fight between Shanks and Blackbeard........
actually, at this stage..... someone has to die the story, if not it isn't going to cut it storyline wise...... but knowing Oda, he will find a way to do it....
I REAALLY hope is Ace is dead. Ace dying would make up for the lackluster Usopp reunion.
That's really morbid.
Ok well considering all we know is that WB is considered the strongest man in the world and rivals the pirate king, where does anyone get the idea that BB, who has trouble dealing with WB's subordinate can even stand up to WB?
He couldn't have had his DF powers for too long, and Ace was beat in a chapter, anyway. Assuming that Whitebeard is so far beyond a Logia.
There seem to be two direct obstacles for anyone attempting to claim One Piece, the Yonkou and the World Government.
Whitebeard will eventually be an obstacle to overcome for anyone searching for One Piece (it's stated he's the man closest to it). It's obvious at this point that Blackbeard is vying for the same goal that Luffy and others are. However, Blackbeard could play this situation to his advantage. Assuming Blackbeard defeated Ace, Whitebeard may make an effort to go after him personally. Assuming either by capturing Luffy, killing Ace, or both Blackbeard becomes a Shichibukai this creates an even greater conflict between the World Government and Whitebeard. If Whitebeard goes as far to openly attack the World Government to get to Blackbeard (we all know that avenging his 'children' sits high on his priority list and Blackbeard's now killed two of them) the World Government would respond in kind. The other Yonkou, fearing the balance of power will tip towards WG if Whitebeard is killed join in on the side of the Yonkou.
The Revolutionaries, seeing a prime opportunity to finally eradicate the World Government for good join the Yonkou. The Shichibukai, seeing that they will obviously lose their privateering privaleges if the WG falls, joins in on the WG's side. All of it comes to bear at Marijoe in a gigantic battle between all the forces involved giving Blackbeard exactly what he needs. Rather than take down Whitebeard himself, he can let the vast forces of the government do it.
So Blackbeard, once again, waits patiently for his opportunity to strike at Whitebeard when he's at his weakest, effectively removing any obstacles he has to his destiny as everyone else is tied up in the ensuing conflict.
In this way, Blackbeard really doesn't need to deal with Whitebeard himself, and him planning something like this wouldn't be completely out of his character. Hell, he served under a man standing in the way of his destiny, taking orders from people obviously weaker than himself, just for the chance, even the slimmest of opportunities, to gain power. And the end of the chapter states that this even would have significant impact on future events.
So in short, I really don't think Blackbeard will ever fight Whitebeard directly. He may meet him in the middle of a gigantic melee when he's weak and finish him off but that would be the extent. As for whether he's as strong as Whitebeard currently, probably not, but I don't think he's that far off.
@Archibald:
There seem to be two direct obstacles for anyone attempting to claim One Piece, the Yonkou and the World Government.
Whitebeard will eventually be an obstacle to overcome for anyone searching for One Piece (it's stated he's the man closest to it). It's obvious at this point that Blackbeard is vying for the same goal that Luffy and others are. However, Blackbeard could play this situation to his advantage. Assuming Blackbeard defeated Ace, Whitebeard may make an effort to go after him personally. Assuming either by capturing Luffy, killing Ace, or both Blackbeard becomes a Shichibukai this creates an even greater conflict between the World Government and Whitebeard. If Whitebeard goes as far to openly attack the World Government to get to Blackbeard (we all know that avenging his 'children' sits high on his priority list and Blackbeard's now killed two of them) the World Government would respond in kind. The other Yonkou, fearing the balance of power will tip towards WG if Whitebeard is killed join in on the side of the Yonkou.
The Revolutionaries, seeing a prime opportunity to finally eradicate the World Government for good join the Yonkou. The Shichibukai, seeing that they will obviously lose their privateering privaleges if the WG falls, joins in on the WG's side. All of it comes to bear at Marijoe in a gigantic battle between all the forces involved giving Blackbeard exactly what he needs. Rather than take down Whitebeard himself, he can let the vast forces of the government do it.
So Blackbeard, once again, waits patiently for his opportunity to strike at Whitebeard when he's at his weakest, effectively removing any obstacles he has to his destiny as everyone else is tied up in the ensuing conflict.
In this way, Blackbeard really doesn't need to deal with Whitebeard himself, and him planning something like this wouldn't be completely out of his character. Hell, he served under a man standing in the way of his destiny, taking orders from people obviously weaker than himself, just for the chance, even the slimmest of opportunities, to gain power. And the end of the chapter states that this even would have significant impact on future events.
So in short, I really don't think Blackbeard will ever fight Whitebeard directly. He may meet him in the middle of a gigantic melee when he's weak and finish him off but that would be the extent. As for whether he's as strong as Whitebeard currently, probably not, but I don't think he's that far off.
I agree with alot here.
Thatz What Ive been trying to say.
Thank ya!
Nice summary of the situation man. I agree that WB and BB probably wont meet, I think any major enemy in the story is going to meet his end against the SH. Its just the way a shounen manga works.
Nice summary of the situation man. I agree that WB and BB probably wont meet, I think any major enemy in the story is going to meet his end against the SH. Its just the way a shounen manga works.
Krieg was technically defeated by Gin, yanno. Krieg actually beat Luffy.
…..Yyyyyeah, well, that's in a technical sense. Besides Krieg, everyone else in that world would probably say otherwise.
Kreig was basically beaten by Luffy. And if they had been on a diffrent combat field, Luffy'd won.
how can you say that? we dont know anything about the powers of WB, shanks, sengoku, akainu to name a few.
I can…. because it was obvious when Oda gave "devil fruit nullifying" powers to Blackbeard, it's a foregone conclusion on who is the strongest person in the world.... (virtually)......
on paper, Blackbeard's technically unstoppable........
however, you are right, we don't know the powers of Whitebeard, Shanks, Sengoku, Akainu....etc....
but because Blackbeard is going to hide behind the World Government as a shichibukai..... we know he is going to own the rest of the field.... sooner or later...
The fact that his body takes damage is a pretty big weakness though (I doubt he merely "feels damage"). I think Enel showed that no one in OP is really invincible. BB's power is the most impressive so far, but there's going to be a limit to the damage his flesh-and-blood body can sustain.
Just as Luffy would be in mortal danger fighting someone like Zoro, a swordsman or sniper of high skill could probably mortally wound BB (he's actually more susceptible to physical attacks than Luffy), or perhaps if he got caught in control by Flamingo, etc…
Of course, being a major OP character, I'm sure he take an ungodly amount of punishment.
I can…. because it was obvious when Oda gave "devil fruit nullifying" powers to Blackbeard, it's a foregone conclusion on who is the strongest person in the world.... (virtually)......
on paper, Blackbeard's technically unstoppable........
however, you are right, we don't know the powers of Whitebeard, Shanks, Sengoku, Akainu....etc....
but because Blackbeard is going to hide behind the World Government as a shichibukai..... we know he is going to own the rest of the field.... sooner or later...
Wow, Alot of people are afraid of a character (Blackbeard) that they only seen once.
The Yami Fruit is good but not THAT good. Whitebeard would waste anyone with it!