You mean stronger all together or individually? I, personally think, that some are equal and some cough crocodile cough are weaker than the Yonkou.
Shanks and Mihawk
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Can all these posters who say "Four Emperors > Shichibukai and Marines" prove this assumption? Not too mention the fact that The Emperors are NOT a team neither is the Shichibukai or Admirals, unless you think Doflamingo playing with Government officials and willing to start a war with SenGoku in the Holy land is what you call together. Not too mention the fact Hawkeye's said they are two "CONFLICTING" groups…... Their is a reason why their is a balance with the three powers people.
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@Impel:
You mean stronger all together or individually? I, personally think, that some are equal and some cough crocodile cough are weaker than the Yonkou.
I agree that some are equal, and some are weaker then the Yonkou.
Same goes for the Navy.I disagree with this Yonkou > The 7 Gods.
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It seems that in a battle between the Shichibukai and the individual Yonkou, the Shichibukai would win. One Shichibukai is already at least the same strength as on of the Yonkou. It's very interesting…
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It seems that in a battle between the Shichibukai and the individual Yonkou, the Shichibukai would win. One Shichibukai is already at least the same strength as on of the Yonkou. It's very interesting…
All the shichibukai won't be on yonkou level, only a select few will.
So it will end up being equal Mihawk can't do everything on his own
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All the shichibukai won't be on yonkou level, only a select few will.
That's understood, but together all the Shichibukai have a pretty good chance.
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That's understood, but together all the Shichibukai have a pretty good chance.
The problem is the Shichibukai dont work together.
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Has any considered it a Sanji/Zoro thing?
One of them seems to be stronger but they're closely matched and if a fight were to happen, strength wouldn't be a factor as they are almost equal so if someone were to pull some sort of great tactic then the person would gain the upperhand.
I also agree with BlackGalleon1.
When discussing Yonkou vs. Schichibukai, one must take the Yonkou's crew into consideration. I'm pretty sure enough subordinates like Ace could probably beat a Schichibukai. Though I'm not sure of the amount of subordinates and how much will be beaten during the battle.
So Shanks' arm can be made up for by 5 or so subordinates.
The Schichibukai aren't meant to have pirate allies but they could always have something like marines on request or just some thugs who aren't "pirates".
Though, since the Schichibukai, like Donflamingo, are arrogant and all, I doubt that they ever do something like that. Crocodile had subordinates he shouldn't have had so that is a new factor in strength.
So a Schichibkai could (hypothetically) beat a Yonkou but then proceed to be overwhelmed by the crew.
The problem is the Shichibukai dont work together.
I think that, if something like Enies Lobby were to happen (hypothetically) only requiring the Schichibukai, then I'm pretty sure the two or three Schichibukai would be more focused on eliminating the threat rather than fighting each other.
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That's understood, but together all the Shichibukai have a pretty good chance.
I'm glad you see it that way, beats having to play that broken record
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I'm pretty sure enough subordinates like Ace could probably beat a Schichibukai. Though I'm not sure of the amount of subordinates and how much will be beaten during the battle.
Don't know what you mean by the second part but I highly doubt ace could take a shichibukai down. Ace's fleet will probably fight someone from the WG if they ever do fight.
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The Schichibukai aren't meant to have pirate allies
Where was that stated?????
Though, since the Schichibukai, like Donflamingo, are arrogant and all, I doubt that they ever do something like that. Crocodile had subordinates he shouldn't have had so that is a new factor in strength.
I agree.
So a Schichibkai could (hypothetically) beat a Yonkou but then proceed to be overwhelmed by the crew
Well Shanks proved that the Yonkou crews dont mean jack when it comes down to playing with the Big Timers.
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Can all these posters who say "Four Emperors > Shichibukai and Marines" prove this assumption? Not too mention the fact that The Emperors are NOT a team neither is the Shichibukai or Admirals, unless you think Doflamingo playing with Government officials and willing to start a war with SenGoku in the Holy land is what you call together. Not too mention the fact Hawkeye's said they are two "CONFLICTING" groups…... Their is a reason why their is a balance with the three powers people.
Well, that's the reason they're in balance.
See, if they actually gave a damn and united with each other, then yes, they would obviously be more powerful than the other two powers. Yet, it's fairly obvious they never will. That's why things stay in balance.
However, it's tough to say, because the Shichibukai and the Marine HQ both have political backing that the Yonkou lack.
Still, Shanks and Mihawk are equal.
And I'm sorry what I said earlier, Final End. I didn't know you were joking.
Anyway, I'm not calling Mihawk a liar because Mihawk told Zoro to surpass him. Although Shanks most likely won't debunk or claim the title, whichever of the two has the title is irrelevant in that sense. If he surpasses Mihawk, he surpasses Mihawk. Defeating whoever has the title is only important to his dream. So it's irrelevant if Mihawk loses the title, because Zoro still has to surpass him to become the greatest, whether Shanks or Mihawk has the title.
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Well, that's the reason they're in balance.
See, if they actually gave a damn and united with each other, then yes, they would obviously be more powerful than the other two powers. Yet, it's fairly obvious they never will. That's why things stay in balance.
However, it's tough to say, because the Shichibukai and the Marine HQ both have political backing that the Yonkou lack.
Still, Shanks and Mihawk are equal.
You do realize that the Shichibukai and the Marines do NOT work together? Not too mention the Shichibukai are INDIVIDUAL's as well. I could say the same for the Shichibukai, all 7 of them can team up and beat on anyone out their too. Not too mention that Shanks (an Emperor) has been Gashed by Blackbeard and rivaled by Hawkeye's which are two Shichibukai's.
And I'm sorry what I said earlier, Final End. I didn't know you were joking.
Anyway, I'm not calling Mihawk a liar because Mihawk told Zoro to surpass him. Although Shanks most likely won't debunk or claim the title, whichever of the two has the title is irrelevant in that sense. If he surpasses Mihawk, he surpasses Mihawk. Defeating whoever has the title is only important to his dream. So it's irrelevant if Mihawk loses the title, because Zoro still has to surpass him to become the greatest, whether Shanks or Mihawk has the title.
Yeah Final End's jokes were very funny.
Hawkeye's will ALWAYS have the title! It is stated that Hawkeye's will await Zoro as the "STRONGEST" Only Whitebeard and Plot could defeat Hawkeye's….and that plot is Zoro.
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You do realize that the Shichibukai and the Marines do NOT work together? Not too mention the Shichibukai are INDIVIDUAL's as well. I could say the same for the Shichibukai, all 7 of them can team up and beat on anyone out their too. Not too mention that Shanks (an Emperor) has been Gashed by Blackbeard and rivaled by Hawkeye's which are two Shichibukai's.
I'm aware. But the WG employs them both to do a task. They do get orders periodically, as Smoker and Tashigi indicated, and are allies. They have political backing and are paid to do dirty work for the WG. Even if it's not willingly, if the Yonkou were to band together and attack, they would have to work together or risk world destruction.
Hawkeye's will ALWAYS have the title! It is stated that Hawkeye's will await Zoro as the "STRONGEST" Only Whitebeard and Plot could defeat Hawkeye's….and that plot is Zoro.
Like I said, I'm not arguing that. But I'm sying that if Mihawk allowed Shanks to fight him, it's possible the title could be debunked. I doubt it would switch hands, but if they're still equals, that negates the title.
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Glad we agree…..............
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Glad we agree…..............
Wow, you actually agree with me that if Shanks and Mihawk fought, the title could possibly be debunked? I think I'm gonna have a heart attack.
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The title will stay with Hawkeye's, but Shanks will give him a run for his money no doubt about that. PLOT will debunk the title…..and that is Zoro.
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I'm aware. But the WG employs them both to do a task. They do get orders periodically, as Smoker and Tashigi indicated, and are allies. They have political backing and are paid to do dirty work for the WG.
If they never turn up to their meetings they can't receive orders. So if they do receive orders, instead just having to give a percentage of what they steal.
They probably don't even care about them since they know where they stand. They know the government wouldn't dare attack them through fear of breaking the balance and possibly fear of losing. So they settled for a percentage of what they steal.
Maybe 2 or 3 shichibukai are on good terms with the WG so they will take orders for a price. I doubt Mihawk and doflamingo take orders they seem to have too much time on their hands.
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Well Shanks proved that the Yonkou crews dont mean jack when it comes down to playing with the Big Timers.
I'm talking about people like Marco, Jozu and Ace. They clearly are pretty damn strong.
Don't know what you mean by the second part but I highly doubt ace could take a shichibukai down. Ace's fleet will probably fight someone from the WG if they ever do fight.
I'm saying is a number of subordinates like Ace. Think of a group of Ace clones except with different powers ganging up on one guy. Some could die, some will be knocked out and all but enough clones could beat Mihawk.
Unless it happens to be Star Wars.
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I'm saying is a number of subordinates like Ace. Think of a group of Ace clones except with different powers ganging up on one guy. Some could die, some will be knocked out and all but enough clones could beat Mihawk.
Unless it happens to be Star Wars.
To beat a high level character like Mihawk you need a higher level fighter to beat him. One piece is just like that Mihawk would end up swatting them like flies.
But your right if it were another series, so I guess it's star wars
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I'm talking about people like Marco, Jozu and Ace. They clearly are pretty damn strong.
Well Shanks did not take Marco serious what so ever.
So like I said the Yonkou crews dont mean a thing when it comes down to Big Timers.
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The reason most people (including me) think the Yonkou are stronger than the Shichibukai is because there are less of them. There are (supposed to be) seven Shichibukai, while there are only four Yonkou. If the two groups are supposedly equal, that means the Yonkou are individually stronger than the Shichibukai. It would take almost twice as many Shichibukai as there are Yonkou to keep them in check, thus the whole idea that the Yonkou are stronger.
Shanks may or may not be equal to Mihawk. First of all, have we ever seen anyone call Mihawk the world's greatest swordsman? I don't really remember, but I believe only a few people actually knew who he was, this could be the same thing for Shanks. No one seemed to know much about Shanks when Garp asked about him recently, that makes me believe he doesn't do things out in the open, but rather in private, in the new world.
If people don't know about him, then how could they know if he is equal to Mihawk? It makes me think the info about Mihawk is scarce and possibly exaturated. Calling him the "World's Greatest Swordsman" gives the vibe that no one even comes close to his strength, which he already know is not true. Mihawk said himself that Shanks was able to keep up with him, meaning they were probably equal before he got his arm cut off (which, to Mihawk, means that he's a weakling now). Obviously if he won't fight him, Mihawk keeps the World's Greatest title by default, not only that but Zoro's dream would be messed up.
Of course, parts of this are speculation, but I'm brainstorming.
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The reason most people (including me) think the Yonkou are stronger than the Shichibukai is because there are less of them. There are (supposed to be) seven Shichibukai, while there are only four Yonkou. If the two groups are supposedly equal, that means the Yonkou are individually stronger than the Shichibukai. It would take almost twice as many Shichibukai as there are Yonkou to keep them in check, thus the whole idea that the Yonkou are stronger.
Reason's why the Emperors can with stand Shichibukai is because of Whitebeard, who is also the "Strongest Man in the World."
Shanks may or may not be equal to Mihawk. First of all, have we ever seen anyone call Mihawk the world's greatest swordsman? I don't really remember, but I believe only a few people actually knew who he was, this could be the same thing for Shanks. No one seemed to know much about Shanks when Garp asked about him recently, that makes me believe he doesn't do things out in the open, but rather in private, in the new world.
If people don't know about him, then how could they know if he is equal to Mihawk? It makes me think the info about Mihawk is scarce and possibly exaturated. Calling him the "World's Greatest Swordsman" gives the vibe that no one even comes close to his strength, which he already know is not true. Mihawk said himself that Shanks was able to keep up with him, meaning they were probably equal before he got his arm cut off (which, to Mihawk, means that he's a weakling now). Obviously if he won't fight him, Mihawk keeps the World's Greatest title by default, not only that but Zoro's dream would be messed up.
Of course, parts of this are speculation, but I'm brainstorming.
Do you actually believe that Hawkeye's title is not the truth? Then Zoro will be chasing a fraud. Zoro, Red Shoes Zeff, and most importantly Oda has called him the Strongest Swordsman in the world. Shanks is known, everyone that is important knows who these two characters are. Shanks and Hawkeye's are KEY to our main heroes in Luffy and Zoro, possibly the last characters they will face.
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I understand where people are coming from with the numbers thing, but there's one large factor people forget to consider when comparing the Emperors and the Seven; the crews. The Shichibukai are seven lone people, but the Emperors have powerful crews with them. People are quick to measure the Emperors as individuals, but they always forget the crews. The EMperors aren't alone; they have powerful crews with them. Just look at Shanks' crew; an ex-rival of Mihawk himself, the smartest man in East Blue, the fastest man in the world, an expert sniper, and a man with a bounty higher than a (former) Shichibukai. The strategy of using seven to fight four makes sense; one Shichibukai could probably beat an Emperor in a one-on-one fight (which I believe, considering the ones we've seen are the strongest swordsman in the world, a virtual god of sand, and a psychokenetic who can control anyone he wants like puppets–all individuals of devastating power), but each Emperor and their crew combined would be trouble. So, you get a couple of powerful individuals to keep them in check. Like fighting a platoon of well-trained infantry with a couple of tanks.
Hopefully someone got what I'm sayin'...
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Well thats all fine and dandy but its was never stated that the Shichibukai have to leave there crew.
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Oi…
Yes, it has. They have to give up being pirates, for one, and Jinbei and Doflamingo had to give up their crews to become Shichibukai. I know it's been specifically stated, as well, and I'm gonna find where.
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Oi…
Yes, it has. They have to give up being pirates, for one, and Jinbei and Doflamingo had to give up their crews to become Shichibukai. I know it's been specifically stated, as well, and I'm gonna find where.
You must be reading a head of us b/c Ive never seen a flash back of Jinbei's past or Doflamingo's past.
You do that…... and when you do find that statement, I want you to post the qoute.
Plus that would mean that Blackbeard would have to give up his crew, if that was the case he would not want to be a god of the sea.
Like I said it was never stated.
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Reason's why the Emperors can with stand Shichibukai is because of Whitebeard, who is also the "Strongest Man in the World."
This is the same thing I was talking about. Just because he's the strongest man in the world doesn't mean he can't be beaten. For all we know, Shanks is 1% weaker than him, thus making Whitebeard the strongest.
Do you actually believe that Hawkeye's title is not the truth? Then Zoro will be chasing a fraud. Zoro, Red Shoes Zeff, and most importantly Oda has called him the Strongest Swordsman in the world. Shanks is known, everyone that is important knows who these two characters are. Shanks and Hawkeye's are KEY to our main heroes in Luffy and Zoro, possibly the last characters they will face.
Strongest swordsman in the world, not god. If no one was any match for him, then he would be the strongest person in One Piece. Shanks was equal to Mihawk before he got his arm cut off, Shanks' strength has also not depleted at all. In fact, he's probably gotten stronger along with Mihawk. You're acting as though nothing can ever overtake him, which we all know will be proven wrong after the story is over.
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This is the same thing I was talking about. Just because he's the strongest man in the world doesn't mean he can't be beaten. For all we know, Shanks is 1% weaker than him, thus making Whitebeard the strongest.
For all we know it may take two Shichibukai members to beat the likes of Whitebeard. Let's not forget that Shanks (Emperor) has been Gashed by Blackbeard and Rivaled by Hawkeye's Mihawk which are two Shichibukai. It seems one Shichibukai is more than enough to handle Shanks.
Strongest swordsman in the world, not god. If no one was any match for him, then he would be the strongest person in One Piece. Shanks was equal to Mihawk before he got his arm cut off, Shanks' strength has also not depleted at all. In fact, he's probably gotten stronger along with Mihawk. You're acting as though nothing can ever overtake him, which we all know will be proven wrong after the story is over.
Of Course….Only Whitebeard and Plot can defeat Hawkeye's Mihawk, that plot is Zoro (obviously). Zoro will be the only one to defeat Hawkeye's NOT Shanks.
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For all we know it may take two Shichibukai members to beat the likes of Whitebeard. Let's not forget that Shanks (Emperor) has been Gashed by Blackbeard and Rivaled by Hawkeye's Mihawk which are two Shichibukai. It seems one Shichibukai is more than enough to handle Shanks.
Supposedly Blackbeard is getting stronger and will eventually be stronger than Whitebeard (maybe he already is), thus having him scar Shanks isn't that much of a failure for him. We also don't know two of the Schichibukai and only know a little bit about Donflamingo and even less of Kuma. We don't really know this yet, I'll wait a little while until my opinion on that changes.
Of Course….Only Whitebeard and Plot can defeat Hawkeye's Mihawk, that plot is Zoro (obviously). Zoro will be the only one to defeat Hawkeye's NOT Shanks.
I wasn't saying Shanks will actually fight Mihawk for the title and win, of course not. Zoro will obviously be the one to beat him.
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You must be reading a head of us b/c Ive never seen a flash back of Jinbei's past or Doflamingo's past.
You do that…... and when you do find that statement, I want you to post the qoute.
Plus that would mean that Blackbeard would have to give up his crew, if that was the case he would not want to be a god of the sea.
Like I said it was never stated.
Well, until I do (which won't be any time soon; there's alot of One Piece, and I have a life), I can go by all the other evidence…
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All the Shichibukai we've seen have been alone and crew-less.
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Doflamingo had to abandon his crew, but still checks up on them, and still holds pride in his symbol. If he didn't have to give up his crew, he wouldn'tve done this.
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Arlong and Bellamy both inherited their ex-captains' crews. Wouldn'tve happened if they could keep their crews.
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Well, until I do (which won't be any time soon; there's alot of One Piece, and I have a life), I can go by all the other evidence…
It was never stated.
- All the Shichibukai we've seen have been alone and crew-less.
Well Croc had an organization….....
and Hawkeyes is a crew-less i think he always been that way for him.- Doflamingo had to abandon his crew, but still checks up on them, and still holds pride in his symbol. If he didn't have to give up his crew, he wouldn'tve done this.
Abandon What crew….....We have never seen Doflamingo's crew, that spring guy was just an underling......He told that spring guy that he dont need weakling on his side, which could mean that there are more pirate crews that are supporting him and his new era with out dreams, that brands Doflamingo's symbol.
- Arlong and Bellamy both inherited their ex-captains' crews. Wouldn'tve happened if they could keep their crews.
So thats the spring guys name Bellamy, it was never stated that they inherited their captains crews.
Arlong inherited Jinbei's crew???huh
Arlong could have left Jinbei b/c he started working for the WG which are humans you know.
But like I said it was never stated that the 7 gods must leave there Pirate crews.
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Let's not forget that Shanks (Emperor) has been Gashed by Blackbeard
Our beloved Zoro vs. Mr. 1.
Gashing is an understatement.
Well Croc had an organization….....
Crocodile wasn't actually meant to have his. He was expected to be onhis own and maybe a personal assistant or secretary.
But like I said it was never stated that the 7 gods must leave there Pirate crews.
Even showing a remote sign of hospitaltiy to a pirate such as letting me rest in your house is illegal and punishable, to what extent I don't know, but taken very seriously by marines.
So a Schicibukai hanging around with pirates is very naughty.
You must be reading a head of us b/c Ive never seen a flash back of Jinbei's past or Doflamingo's past.
You do that…... and when you do find that statement, I want you to post the qoute.
Plus that would mean that Blackbeard would have to give up his crew, if that was the case he would not want to be a god of the sea.
Like I said it was never stated.
Actually, you don't need a flashback.
The Schichibukai are not pirates.
They DO behave pirate-y but the Government has merely given them a different label, one which we will abide by.
Pirates have been especially singled out by the Navy as a major threat to order. They are considered criminals regardless of whether they have committed any crimes other than raising the Jolly Roger. Civilians, too, are targeted by the prohibition against piracy: persons known to have associated with pirates are barred from entering the Navy (there are notable exceptions), and providing aid or comfort to pirates is a serious c rime, especially if they are well-known bounty heads.
Such a high-"ranked" person would get a talking to if they were found playing with those naughty pirate boys. Unless the person was killing them or subduing them.
Abandon What crew….....We have never seen Doflamingo's crew, that spring guy was just an underling......He told that spring guy that he dont need weakling on his side, which could mean that there are more pirate crews that are supporting him and his new era with out dreams, that brands Doflamingo's symbol.
Uhh… Bellamy? It was Donflamingo's EX-crew. Bellamy was an EX-underling.
Well Shanks did not take Marco serious what so ever.
He was joking and Shanks is on a different scale but ENOUGH subordinates could probably take down a Schichibukai. Marco told Shanks to shut up. Does that fit into "shit-talking"?
For all we know it may take two Shichibukai members to beat the likes of Whitebeard. Let's not forget that Shanks (Emperor) has been Gashed by Blackbeard and Rivaled by Hawkeye's Mihawk which are two Shichibukai. It seems one Shichibukai is more than enough to handle Shanks.
Blackbeard is not a Schichibukai and for all we know, he could equal five of them after eating Ace and several other people like him then go take out West Blue and become Blackbeardzilla for all we know.
Don't act as if the Yonkou RELY on Whitebeard which is entirely false. Like Saloma said, Shanks could be 1% weaker than him.
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I just want to say this we had such an argument on wikipedia which forced me to check and I found out:
Arlong did not inherit Jinbei's crew… He broke away from it. When Arlong invaded Nami's village, they mentioned a rumour that the Fishmen pirates had split up.
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Erm, just for clarity's sake.
Ouka Shichibukai, directly translated from japanese, means Warlord Seven Fighter Seas, or in better English, the Seven WARLORDS of the Sea.
Since when were WARLORDS unallowed to have their own armies? The only one I've possibly seen is Mihawk.
And Blackbeard could have overtaken Whitebeard. You're in denial if you say its impossible. Go read chapter 434 carefully again.
And when did Oda OFFICIALLY state that Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman? He wrote that through the mouths of One Pieceans like Zoro and Yosaku.
If you don't know what I mean, consider: the former "God" of Skypiea was defeated by Enel and his title easily taken from him. Luffy defeated Crocodile, a Shichibukai. A title by word of mouth means NOTHING.
(though i'm still impressed by Mihawk and I still think he's uber powerful; but i get really pissed off when people just underestimate Shanks. I feel like i'm in Luffy's shoes or something)
And don't go saying "OH YOU'RE DISPUTING ODA YOU NOOB GET OUT OF HERE" when you havent even begun to work your brain a little about what i just meant.
Oh, and one more thing: I think someone didn't read carefully so I'll say it again, IMPRESSION is by opinion, not by speculation. I don't care if you say Mihawk could have done the same sky splitting act; he hasn't yet and so i'm not impressed. You trying to control my feelings? What are you, Donmindcontroller Doflamingo? You can't call someone's feelings a moot point, brudder.
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Each Shickibukai doesn't technically control their crew anymore, but they do still influence them.
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Erm, just for clarity's sake.
Ouka Shichibukai, directly translated from japanese, means Warlord Seven Fighter Seas, or in better English, the Seven WARLORDS of the Sea.
Since when were WARLORDS unallowed to have their own armies? The only one I've possibly seen is Mihawk.
And Blackbeard could have overtaken Whitebeard. You're in denial if you say its impossible. Go read chapter 434 carefully again.
And when did Oda OFFICIALLY state that Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman? He wrote that through the mouths of One Pieceans like Zoro and Yosaku.
Actually, when Oda introduces Mihawk (at least in manga), he's given a title, "World's Greatest Swordsman, Mihawk the Hawkeyes".
Anyways, there's no denying Hawkeyes is the strongest swordsman. I personally think he's the strongest Shichibukai as well, i'm just waiting for some evidence from the actual manga. What I want these guys to acknowledge is that swordsmanship is not the only method of fighting. Mihawk himself told Luffy that aiming for being the PK, is even greater than surpassing him. Closest to PK is WB, WB is a Yonkou, All Yonkou are the "greatest" pirates, Shanks is a Yonkou, therefore, Shanks is one of the "greatest" priates.
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He was expected to be onhis own and maybe a personal assistant or secretary.
Where was that stated????
So a Schicibukai hanging around with pirates is very naughty.
Where was this stated?????
Actually, you don't need a flashback.
The Schichibukai are not pirates.
They DO behave pirate-y but the Government has merely given them a different label, one which we will abide by.
This is so wrong. The Schicibukai are pirates.
Its stated in the Manga.Such a high-"ranked" person would get a talking to if they were found playing with those naughty pirate boys. Unless the person was killing them or subduing them.
Where was this stated?
Uhh… Bellamy? It was Donflamingo's EX-crew. Bellamy was an EX-underling.
Where was this stated?
Like I said we have not seen Doflamingo's crew.He was joking and Shanks is on a different scale but ENOUGH subordinates could probably take down a Schichibukai.
So your saying Shanks is above schicibukai.
LOL well Blackbeard Is a soon to be Schicibukai that Scared Shanks and Hawkeyes scared him up a bit 2. I think Oda should tell the Schicibukai to stop picking on Shanks.
Blackbeard is not a Schichibukai and for all we know, he could equal five of them after eating Ace and several other people like him then go take out West Blue and become Blackbeardzilla for all we know.
After Blackbeard handles Ace he going to trun him in and claim the title of Schicibukai, and his crew is going No where.
See I can speculate too.
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- All the Shichibukai we've seen have been alone and crew-less.
This is true. However, we've only really seen Crocodile, B. Bear and Doflamingo. Doflamingo stated he had a second crew with which he was liberating islands, possibly from the Yonkou in the new world.
- Doflamingo had to abandon his crew, but still checks up on them, and still holds pride in his symbol. If he didn't have to give up his crew, he wouldn'tve done this.
Doflamingo only addressed Sarquiss and Bellamy. The rest of "Bellamy's Pirate Crew" (Which is clearly stated) were people probably recruited by Bellamy or Sarquiss.
- Arlong and Bellamy both inherited their ex-captains' crews. Wouldn'tve happened if they could keep their crews.
See above for Bellamy. As for Arlong, only Arlong, Kuroobi, Hatchan and Choo were in Jimbei's crew. Look on their bodies. You notice that crab/sun-like symbol? That's probably Jimbei's flag.
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Mihawk himself told Luffy that aiming for being the PK, is even greater than surpassing him. Closest to PK is WB, WB is a Yonkou, All Yonkou are the "greatest" pirates, Shanks is a Yonkou, therefore, Shanks is one of the "greatest" priates.
The reason being pirate king is harder than surpassing Mihawk is because you need to find One piece. To surpass Mihawk you just need top get stronger, to find one piece you need an extremely talented navigator, you still need to be stronger than Mihawk and probably need to read ponegylphs.
If the shichibukai aren't pirates why did sengoku say something about doflamingo's business going smoothly is troubling? I highly doubt doflamingo owns a fast food take away business.
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Since when were WARLORDS unallowed to have their own armies? The only one I've possibly seen is Mihawk.
I agree
And when did Oda OFFICIALLY state that Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman? He wrote that through the mouths of One Pieceans like Zoro and Yosaku.
Well I think when Oda speak through his One Piecanes we should listen.
If you don't know what I mean, consider: the former "God" of Skypiea was defeated by Enel and his title easily taken from him. Luffy defeated Crocodile, a Shichibukai. A title by word of mouth means NOTHING.
Thats not a title given by word of mouth.
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The reason being pirate king is harder than surpassing Mihawk is because you need to find One piece. To surpass Mihawk you just need top get stronger, to find one piece you need an extremely talented navigator, you still need to be stronger than Mihawk and probably need to read ponegylphs.
Why do you need to read poneglyphs to find One Piece? You need to read poneglyphs to probably find Raftel. But the Ancient Kingdom didn't hide One Piece, Roger did. For all we know, it's somewhere in Laboon's stomach.
If the shichibukai aren't pirates why did sengoku say something about doflamingo's business going smoothly is troubling? I highly doubt doflamingo owns a fast food take away business.
Well, if they're normal pirates, as you insist, then the Yonkou are stronger than them by default. They are said to be the "World's Greatest Pirates". Therefore, they're greater than the Shichibukai if they're pirates, too.
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@Fire Fist:
Why do you need to read poneglyphs to find One Piece? You need to read poneglyphs to probably find Raftel. But the Ancient Kingdom didn't hide One Piece, Roger did. For all we know, it's somewhere in Laboon's stomach.
I'm only guessing about the poneglyphs it seems most likely roger would hide it somewhere no-one can reach.
Well, if they're normal pirates, as you insist, then the Yonkou are stronger than them by default. They are said to be the "World's Greatest Pirates". Therefore, they're greater than the Shichibukai if they're pirates, too.
In action they are pirates in title they are shichibukai, so there are basically dirty cops. Their title gets them out of the yonkou strongest pirates debate, while their actions make them pirates. So I guess they get the best of both worlds, no wonder everyone wants to be a shichbukai.
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@Fire Fist:
Well, if they're normal pirates, as you insist, then the Yonkou are stronger than them by default. They are said to be the "World's Greatest Pirates". Therefore, they're greater than the Shichibukai if they're pirates, too.
I would try not to use that "World greatest pirates" line in a Shichibukai Debate. simply b/c the Shicihibukai are so "great" at being pirates that the WG had to legalize them as real pirates.
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@Fire Fist:
This is true. However, we've only really seen Crocodile, B. Bear and Doflamingo. Doflamingo stated he had a second crew with which he was liberating islands, possibly from the Yonkou in the new world.
He never said he had another crew. He just said things were going well for him, and he was bored.
Doflamingo only addressed Sarquiss and Bellamy. The rest of "Bellamy's Pirate Crew" (Which is clearly stated) were people probably recruited by Bellamy or Sarquiss.
Probably, but not definately. We already know Bellamy's Pirate Crew used to be Doflamingo's crew, and still fly his flag alongside Belammy's tongue flag.
See above for Bellamy. As for Arlong, only Arlong, Kuroobi, Hatchan and Choo were in Jimbei's crew. Look on their bodies. You notice that crab/sun-like symbol? That's probably Jimbei's flag.
Again; probably, not definately.
And thanks for the clarification on Arlong, AE.
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Probably, but not definately. We already know Bellamy's Pirate Crew used to be Doflamingo's crew, and still fly his flag alongside Belammy's tongue flag.Maybe thats b/c they support the New Era Doflamingo is trying to usher in.
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Doflamingo probaberly forms a crew then dumps it for a stronger one.
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I think he has alot of pirate crews on his side…...
B/c if you think about it hes going to be the bad man of One Piece.
Doflamongo is going to make an era with no dreams!
Tell me how many people in One Piece dream?????
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I would try not to use that "World greatest pirates" line in a Shichibukai Debate. simply b/c the Shicihibukai are so "great" at being pirates that the WG had to legalize them as real pirates.
And why did the WG have to legalize these pirates…. hmmmm...
b/c 4 pirates became so powerful, the WG starting crapping their pants, and where like... oh crap, our marines have too many things to do tricking the entire world into believing we stand for justice, so what did they do. they employed pirates to combat pirates, and not just 4 pirates, but 7 pirates who along with the marines are the only ones able to do what again... withstand their might!!!! -
And why did the WG have to legalize these pirates…. hmmmm...
b/c 4 pirates became so powerful, the WG starting crapping their pants, and where like… oh crap, our marines have too many things to do tricking the entire world into believing we stand for justice, so what did they do. they employed pirates to combat pirates, and not just 4 pirates, but 7 pirates who along with the marines are the only ones able to do what again... withstand their might!!!!Well good after noon Freedom.
If the 7 Gods did not exist what do ya think would happen to the WG. WG < Yonkou vs the 7 Gods
You talk as if monster like Doflamingo/Jinbei/and Hawkeyes and the other 7 gods would not cause the world goverment problems or cause the Yonkou any.
They dont employ the 7 gods, the WG made a deal with them.