@Impel:
At Garp's level? I don't think so. He's full of himself.
I meant whitebeard…..
@Impel:
At Garp's level? I don't think so. He's full of himself.
I meant whitebeard…..
Oh, yeah. If Garp was at Yonkou level, he wouldn't be a vice-admiral
I think Garp used to be an Admiral, then he steped down a rank of his own accord. No proof though.
Yeah, I don't see anything like that happening.
I think Garp used to be an Admiral, then he steped down a rank of his own accord. No proof though.
when he threw the cannon balls he said that the years have made him throw weaker or something like that so he may have been an admiral since his power is lower than before (though i hope the same hasn't happened with WB).
i don't think a VA could corner roger or if he did he didn't get promoted
now when oda states WB is the strongest man,he is
i hope an SBS might say if the years affected WB
Or maybe grap would do stupid thing like let pirates go cuz he knows them/give them another chance, like he did with luffy in water 7, garp is like a dumb smoker and maybe thats why hes not an admiral. just my guess
Or maybe grap would do stupid thing like let pirates go cuz he knows them/give them another chance, like he did with luffy in water 7, garp is like a dumb smoker and maybe thats why hes not an admiral. just my guess
actually smoker might be the perfect example about the power that doesn't always means equal ranks
although smoker never caught a big name and never listen in what his superiors tell him (i love when he tells to the gorosei to go to hell!!!)
the scar doesn't mean mihawk is stronger than WB.mihawk could have been defeated and WB got a scar from the battle
when he sais my wound aches it is a metafor (does the word exist?) ,it doesn't mean it still aches or that it has something to do with whitebeard's condition,it is just a wound
and also i haven't seen a person who was defeated dying in one piece
and shanks and mihawk must have been rivals since they were kids and maybe friends
If Mihawk and WB fought, and Mihawk goes away with no harm and WB walks out of the fight with a scar, you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that WB won. Especially cuz Mihawk had no major wounds.
Well, duh? All it is saying is that he remembers the wound and the word metaphor does exist, but it is not a metaphor. It is personification.
Yeh, that isnt a part of my arguement either.
Can i see evidence of this please… As far as I'm concerned, Shanks and Buggy are childhood friends from Roger's ship, no mention of Mihawk.
If Mihawk and WB fought, and Mihawk goes away with no harm and WB walks out of the fight with a scar, you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that WB won. Especially cuz Mihawk had no major wounds.
Well, duh? All it is saying is that he remembers the wound and the word metaphor does exist, but it is not a metaphor. It is personification.
Yeh, that isnt a part of my arguement either.
Can i see evidence of this please… As far as I'm concerned, Shanks and Buggy are childhood friends from Roger's ship, no mention of Mihawk.
Well base off your posts, I can tell how you feel about polaras Mihawk did it theory.
So what do think about The Whitebeards theory, which is the Rogers did it theory, its obvious.
and are you IKUMDO? cuz if you are Welcome to my arlong park.
If Mihawk and WB fought, and Mihawk goes away with no harm and WB walks out of the fight with a scar, you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that WB won. Especially cuz Mihawk had no major wounds.
Well, duh? All it is saying is that he remembers the wound and the word metaphor does exist, but it is not a metaphor. It is personification.
Yeh, that isnt a part of my arguement either.
Can i see evidence of this please… As far as I'm concerned, Shanks and Buggy are childhood friends from Roger's ship, no mention of Mihawk.
shanks got also a wound from blackbeard but does that mean he lost?
blackbeard had tried to find a person worth more than 100 millions to beat so he could get respected enough to become a schichibukai
so if he had won shanks (who's movements are always watched by the WG) it would have been known and blackbeard would have been years ago a schichibukai if not a yonkou
so there's your answer,shank's scar from BB and BB's desperate efforts to become famous and beat someone well known
about the mihawk issue,mihawk was a rival to shanks from his childhood days as it was said in the red book and by whitebeard
and we've known that when mihawk gave luffy's bounty to shanks,he told him like that something reminded him a story shanks has told him about a small boy in a village so you don't talk about things like that with someone who isn't your friend (propably mihawk asked about his arm) like when he told WB just that he gave his arm to the new era
so to me mihawk and shanks were rivals and a close friendship was created from the respect everyone showed to eachother
now i have no proof about mihawk doing the scar,maybe a yonkou was roger's nakama and made it to him but for me mihawk is the second strongest man and the only one capable of doing the world's strongest man a scar with a weapon
if the story from the old bartender wasn't filler we would have known that roger was a swordsman but since we know nothing about roger he has the same possibilities to have eaten the gomu gomu no fruit as to be a swordsman,i don't say he didn't do it but my bets go on mihawk
Whitebeard just said they were rivals and fought a lot… And Shanks said BB was hiding behind Whitebeard all these years until the time came for him to start moving. Whitebeard never said he fought Mihawk, he said Shanks + Mihawk fought and the battles between them still echoed in his head.
but the most obvious one to give whitebeard the scar is Roger, as you all know, only roger was stronger than whitebeard… so they probably had a duel which decided that Roger was the strongest and thats how everyone knows that whitebeard was the only one who could keep up with Roger, not over him or besides him...just keeping up
just like mihawk gave zoro his scar...in the end...both of them will fight and zoro will be victorious but yet, having the scar and the memmory of the scar given to him by mihawk,
(and probably when some time in the future zoro meets mihawks son he could like say: Seing you is making this scar that mihawk gave me ache)
Yeah, it was most likely Roger who gave him the scar, but it could have been Shanks since we was in Roger's crew
It couldn't have been Shanks unless Whitebeard was talking in second person, which no one does unless they're drunk. It's possible that it was Roger, and most likely, but "Seeing your wound makes this scar I got from that bastard ache", does not make me so sure. Really, it could be from anyone on Roger's crew, simply someone who got in a lucky shot. Perhaps that guy with 2 rings on his arm that's in Buggy's flashback.
@Impel:
Oh, yeah. If Garp was at Yonkou level, he wouldn't be a vice-admiral
Yeah, that dude just cornered pirate king many times.
Of course he isn't Yonkous level…
Hope your sense the sarcasm.
Well, he cornered Roger, but that doesn't mean he beat Roger
@Impel:
Well, he cornered Roger, but that doesn't mean he beat Roger
But that is still pretty huge thing. and Garp is hero of the marines.
I think that Garp and Roger had same kind "relationship" that Luffy and Smoker have.
For chrissakes, look at Garp's ship. Look at his hat. Since we discovered that Akainu, Kizaru, and Aokiji are titles, don't you think logic dictates that Garp was the former Akainu back during Roger's time? In his old age, he could've passed the torch to Sakazuki. Garp is a BEAST.
@Fire Fist:
For chrissakes, look at Garp's ship. Look at his hat. Since we discovered that Akainu, Kizaru, and Aokiji are titles, don't you think logic dictates that Garp was the former Akainu back during Roger's time? In his old age, he could've passed the torch to Sakazuki. Garp is a BEAST.
Thank you.
But I only see one problem.
Why would Garp pass the torch someone like Sakazuki?
I don't think that Garp is big fan of Absolute Justice.
Sakazuki was probably garp's apprentice, like Coby and helmeppo are now….
and also, even Whitebeard mentions Garp, which indicates, he probably was an admiral..... Garp is oldschool indeed
and also, a reason for him too pass the torch, might be that the admirals are the WG's strongest powers....if garp has become stiff, then he just stepped aside...
Then why he became such absolute justice freak?
In my opinion White beard is so old he probably got that scar when he fell off the toliet and hit his head on the sink.
@AD-HD:
Then why he became such absolute justice freak?
well, i dont think he would have become an exact copy of garp…you know, not all aprentices are bound to become like their teachers
well, like garp wanted luffy to become a marine....but he turned out a pirate, because of the influence from shanks....
something in that direction...
Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Maybe Sakazuki get influenced by… Sengoku perhaps?
Didn't Luffy say he always wanted to be a pirate? Shanks was just his role model and later, his friend. Garp is just looking for someone to blame I guess with that.
You can imagine the convos at the diner table:
Luffy: I want to be a pirate
Garp: I won't allow it, your going to be a Marine
Luffy: Why would I become a dumb thing like that?
Garp punches Luffy
Well base off your posts, I can tell how you feel about polaras Mihawk did it theory.
So what do think about The Whitebeards theory, which is the Rogers did it theory, its obvious.
and are you IKUMDO? cuz if you are Welcome to my arlong park.
I agree with you WB, only Roger could have given the scar to WB. Under the pretext which it was presented, no other person would make any sense at all.
shanks got also a wound from blackbeard but does that mean he lost?
blackbeard had tried to find a person worth more than 100 millions to beat so he could get respected enough to become a schichibukai
so if he had won shanks (who's movements are always watched by the WG) it would have been known and blackbeard would have been years ago a schichibukai if not a yonkou
so there's your answer,shank's scar from BB and BB's desperate efforts to become famous and beat someone well known
about the mihawk issue,mihawk was a rival to shanks from his childhood days as it was said in the red book and by whitebeard
We dont know Blackbeard's strength so you cannot presume that he is weaker than Shanks. In my opinion, he will end up being stronger. I dont know under what conditions the fight happened, tho i do remember reading it, but at the time, Blackbeard was certainly under WB's command. And as Buggy said, no one messes with WB's nakama and gets away with it.
the next statement, you cannot prove. Being powerful does not put you in those ranks immediately.
i don't know what this is an answer to.
please refer me to the quote where WB says this.
i am tired to explain the same things again and again
time will tell who's right or wrong.period.
i am tired to explain the same things again and again
time will tell who's right or wrong.period.
thats the problem you explain, when oda aready said Whitebard is the only man that could fight Rogers as his equal.
your right time will tell and its in my favor
I'm confused, when did a actual decent discussion result into pathetic high school name calling?
I'm confused, when did a actual decent discussion result into pathetic high school name calling?
i think this thread has been into a dead end,only time will tell
i hope a mod closes it cuz i can't explain the same 10 times and i am being asked simillar questions all the time