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Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss
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@Nobodyman @Nectar and anybody looking for more lore
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just watched the first episode and I quite liked it. There's some stiff moments but all in all the quality range goes from ok to good. Voice acting is stellar. Music is ok-ish and in-universe justified by Lilith's influence. I'm down for the ride.
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Just finished Hello Rosie. And THAT was some Roger and Hammerstein I was waiting for!
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Best two episodes of the season. As should be for a finale I guess?
We need more Rosie after this.
@pariston_hill said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
Finale is here
And spoiler never works for me so just don't read:
Holy Shit Pent is right. Before Vaggie was revealed as an Exterminator I always wondered if she would be the one to go, but hey, sacrifice your life for your friends I'd call pretty redemption worthy.
But what I want to know most right now is: WHAT HAPPENED TO RAZZLE AND DAZZLE?!
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@Satsuki said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
But what I want to know most right now is: WHAT HAPPENED TO RAZZLE AND DAZZLE?!
One of the met the curtain call and all of that jazz.
One of the best parts for me is that the leaked thing I was iffy about proved to be fake, well most of it (I still expect to be a switcharoo between Lilith and Eve).
Back to spoilers:
One thing that is probably a Q&A is if Lucifer gets well with his fellow fallen angels - The Sins - Charlie needs uncle Ozzie and auntie Bee.
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@pariston_hill said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
@Satsuki said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
But what I want to know most right now is: WHAT HAPPENED TO RAZZLE AND DAZZLE?!
One of the met the curtain call and all of that jazz.
NOOOOOOOO. BAWLS Things that cute shouldn't die!!
Back to spoilers:
One thing that is probably a Q&A is if Lucifer gets well with his fellow fallen angels - The Sins - Charlie needs uncle Ozzie and auntie Bee.
Wait, are the sins fallen angels too? I don't remember any of them being so in original mythos. Charlie would definitely benefit from any of the other sins helping, and two we've met in Helluva Boss are helpful enough (Bee is downright nice). Hell, even Mammon would probably help if Charlie paid him enough. I would love to see Lucifer call a meeting of all the sins in Season 2. Satan used to be the big man, so . . . they probably don't have the best relationship. Shit, Alastor might have made a deal with Satan.
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@Satsuki
I'm not that into the esoteric apocrypha christian lore. So go with it and some don't.And while at it, if I'm not mistaken in old aramaic Lucifer means morningstar and Satan means adversary. I expect Satan to be on the same vein as Mammon.
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Just watched the last two episodes and, yeah, that was pretty amazing. Season had a bit of a rocky start, but overall it was well worth the wait.
While this season did pretty much cement Al as my favorite character, Vaggie definitely had a drastic boost in intrigue once it was revealed she was an exorcist. Up till then, she was just sorta there for me.
Here's to season two! May it come speedily.
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Alastor is always the favorite, but Husk went up significantly and we need more Rosie.
And this is my confirmed favorite song of the season:
lol, even the blurb says, "Eat your heart out, Roger and Hammerstein!"
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When your fathers have a restraining order against each other but live at your hotel.
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Just like with the 100 Girlfriends manga,
wish I remembered to look for a thread when I first jumped aboard lolBecause I hopped on after the first four eps dropped.
My tweets from the time
(says 12m ago because it was capped for Discord at the time):I've seen all 8 eps now, and I can't get enough of watching YouTube reaction videos for the show.
I'm SO entertained by this creation.The music though, oh my gosh...
I swear, several times per day I find myself reciting Alastor's final lines of "Stayed Gone",
the climax of "You Didn't Know" and the ENTIRETY of "Respectless" to myself. -
I would be singing the Cannibals' section from "Ready for This" if the lines about eating people wouldn't get stares from people.
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I like this guys videos
Spoilers
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@MDL
Welcome to Hell.On youtube videos, I used to like Sarcastic Chorus but aside the bait thumbnails I thing he kind of did a 180º to come to criticize Hazbin a tad too hard.
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By the way, concerning the discourse about the show being rushed:
I personally think that general audiences have just become too familiar with long-form storytelling in their media,
so when you get stuff like this (which I believe, like a true musical, is intended to be short-form storytelling with a snappy soundtrack),
it can feel jarring and rushed to anyone unprepared for it.In terms of a narrative? Yes it's fast.
In terms of a musical? It's absolutely par for the course.
Perception of what the show is going for is the key difference IMO.It also doesn't help when some people have had years to theorize and headcanon about the lore and characters,
so it rubs them the wrong way when something is breezed past that they wanted a multi-episode arc to focus on! XDBut as someone who came in knowing nothing,
the intent of the production seems obvious to me and I guess I'm very much here for it.
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@MDL said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
It also doesn't help when some people have had years to theorize and headcanon about the lore and characters,
so it rubs them the wrong way when something is breezed past that they wanted a multi-episode arc to focus on! XDKinda depends, I enjoyed a lot of AUs and fan theories but I was ready to face the series as it is and not as what I was imagining.
I'm not used to musical pacing but I think the series could benefit from having more episodes. I personally would made episode 6 be ep8 of a cour. Get at least one episode within hotel interactions,etc.
If was do to something with 8 episodes I would close either with the arrival of the exorcists at the ending of the episode, or with the events of episode 6 as the season cliffhanger.
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I definitely think the narrative went fast. So fast that the cast being all buddy-buddy doesn't feel earned. It's like we skipped a couple character scenes along the way. Other than that, it was a good season finale.
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@pariston_hill said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
I'm not used to musical pacing but I think the series could benefit from having more episodes. I personally would made episode 6 be ep8 of a cour. Get at least one episode within hotel interactions,etc.
I don't think anybody would be against more episodes, but it's almost always hard for animated shows to get more episodes per season. Animation just takes longer, and most studios not named Disney are not willing to put more money and time into them.
This is also studio A24's first animation project, so they were not going to overdo it. They wanted to test the waters. Now what the show has been a success, they might make Season 2 longer.
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Another meme I did today.
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I really hope the Vees get more focus in Season 2.
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@pariston_hill said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
gonna spam
Happy family
Is this official art or just really good fan art?
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Hahaha! I was thinking that.
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@Satsuki said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
Is this official art or just really good fan art?
Official, is one of the portraits that are seen on Dad beat Dad.
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Totally missed it.
I believe it was confirmed that Lilith's "horns" are actually just part of her crown. But you gotta love a woman who towers over her husband.
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I wonder how much the show has changed since it's initial concept from pilot.. I'm asking with a specific scene in mind from pilot that currently feels off with how s1 went.
In pilot Charlie calls Lilith on the phone and leaves a message. In it she wonders if her father was right about her. But in this season I have a hard time picturing Lucifer expressing his disappointment in Charlie considering it seems like she was raised mostly by Lilith and how little he knows her. I'm currently thinking that it was all actually Lilith's doing like if she disapproved of something in Charlie she would say that Lucifer thought that of her, making him the big bad.
Tho again, there is that other scene in which Charlie says she 'picked up' from Lucifer how not to take shit from other demons, but that one feels less 'inconsistent' since there could, theoretically, have been a million situations in which he could've said / done that.
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@statu-variabilis said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
In pilot Charlie calls Lilith on the phone and leaves a message. In it she wonders if her father was right about her. But in this season I have a hard time picturing Lucifer expressing his disappointment in Charlie considering it seems like she was raised mostly by Lilith and how little he knows her. I'm currently thinking that it was all actually Lilith's doing like if she disapproved of something in Charlie she would say that Lucifer thought that of her, making him the big bad.
The events in the pilot are canon although the pilot is not. So a change is the relationship is very likely.
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This show has influenced me to finally change my desktop bg.
(Before and After)The best part is that the show is so visually good that you could pause almost anywhere and get a background worthy shot.
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it's kinda cute that the actor who plays Adam is the same who plays Trafalgar Law
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Um, English or Japanese? Cause I'm pretty sure his English voice isn't Law.
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it wasa joke on their design (their likeliness)
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Design?
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they look alike to me shrugs
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A nice catch that was pointed out to me is that both Adam and Lute masks glitch when they hurt/after they hurt a hellborn (Charlie and Dazzle).
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Nice. Good series/movies always have clever details.
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The first couple of episodes were a bit slow, but man it does get good.
I wouldn't have guessed that Sir Pentious would end up being one of my favorite parts of the show. -
"I'm sorry, why would you be my favourite character?"
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I don't know which is funnier
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Bottom one creeps me the fuck out so I'll go with Ducktales.
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@Satsuki said in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss:
Bottom one creeps me the fuck out so I'll go with Ducktales.
i second the motion