guh
I don't know why everybody thinks Robin's won't change…Aokiji told us it will... no matter what her actions at enies lobby will be
Did he? Really? When, becuase I have no memory of it?!
guh
I don't know why everybody thinks Robin's won't change…Aokiji told us it will... no matter what her actions at enies lobby will be
Did he? Really? When, becuase I have no memory of it?!
@Kidany:
I know what you mean about all that. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Sanji's first bounty will begin at over 100 mil. So I thought 80 mil would be enough.
Luffy's will rise, Zoro's will rise… an 80 mil on Sanji would still probably be quite a bit less than what they get.
And hey, Zoro got 60 mil for beating up a bunch of bounty hunters and Daz Bones. Sanji took down a bunch of Government agents (comparible to the bounty hunters, but even worse because its the government) and, along with everything else.... I think it'll probably beat 80 mil.
Yeah, 80 is how you even look at it is too less for what he have done.
I wonder what Oda is going to do with all the characters who are getting a bounty but who isn't a part of the Strawhats. Zanbai for an example, he must get one, I think this points to that Franky will leave Franky Family and give the command to Zanbai, the now second in command. Of coruse they will still be named "Franky Family", just to honor Franky.
Luffy: 500.000.000
Robin: 200.000.000
Zoro: 240.000.000
Sanji: 120.000.000/ none
Nami: none
Usopp: 30.000.000
Chopper: none
Luffy: 500.000.000
Robin: 200.000.000
Zoro: 240.000.000
Sanji: 120.000.000/ none
Nami: none
Usopp: 30.000.000
Chopper: none
Seems a bit blumming steep. Luffy 500000000? zoro 240000000?
Old Croc was only 81000000 and he was a Shibuki
Luffy having 500 this early sounds at least to me as something impossible. Maybe more something to 200-300, at highest.
But, at the same time, if they don't get high bounties now, when will they?
Though 500 mil may still be a little much.
heres my list
luffy:190mill
zoro:130mill
franky:110mill
sanji:70mill
sogeking:60 mill
robin:100 mill
nami:none
chopper:none
franky family 40mill combined
luffy:defeating so many men and lucci is bound for a increase
zoro:he'll do something impressive soon
franky:getting away with the plans and uniteing with the ohara(robin) is bound to piss them off plus defeating a high ranking offical (spandam)
sanji:70 mill good starting place for someone who's only fighting
sogeking:after he defeats kaku(if oda will allow it)he'll get this bounty also because of the giants they must have lost a good 500 men by now because of those two all thanks to soge and maybe just maybe he'll blow up enies lobby but thats a long shot
robin:escapeing again good enough for a boost but notheing too crazy and a new picture shes pretty much unrecognizable by now
nami&copper:next arc
franky family:for bringing in the king bulls and getting them there imagin a bounty poster with all of them on it
Robin revolted the Buster Call all by herself and she only got 79 million. All the government officials know about her because the Buster Call cannot hold any exceptions - no survivors allowed. So the fact that she survived and took down a bunch of ships with her is absolutely HUGE, yet she only got 79 mill. Hence I don't the initial bounties on the Mugiwara will be over 80 mill. Yes, attacking Enies Lobby is pretty serious stuff, but so is surviving Buster Call, and remember 79 is Robin's first bounty ever, Luffy already had a bounty b4 the 70 mill jump to 100. So the initial bounties for Sanji I think will around Robin's current bounty; as for Usopp, Chopper, and Nami, they will probably be closer to Zorro's current bounty.
Luffy - 200,000,000
Robin - 180,000,000
Zorro - 160,000,000
Sanji - 80,000,000
Chopper - 50,000,000
Usopp - 0
Nami - 25,000,000 (higher than Arlong's old bounty)
SogeKing - 25,000,000
Franky - 50,000,000
One exception for Sanji:I forget which chapter it was, but Sanji told Zorro that if he ever got a bounty, he would be worth twice as much as Zorro. I know how Oda likes to play with these little lines so maybe Sanji will be worth as much as 120,000,000 (twice Zorro's current bounty).
Did he? Really? When, becuase I have no memory of it?!
on longring longland.. chapter? dunno… :sleep:
Actually, Aokiji just says that the bounty for the Straw Hats overall will increase. ( Luffy's 100 million + Zoro's 60 million + Robin's 79 million … ) He was only there to confirm that Robin was a crew member.
I have to agree though; If Luffy and Zoro's bounties are going to increase, Robin's will have to as well. Just for being associated with them if anything.
Actually, Aokiji just says that the bounty for the Straw Hats overall will increase. ( Luffy's 100 million + Zoro's 60 million + Robin's 79 million … ) He was only there to confirm that Robin was a crew member.
I have to agree though; If Luffy and Zoro's bounties are going to increase, Robin's will have to as well. Just for being associated with them if anything.
oh, really? <<
maybe it's just the german translation… <<
Robin revolted the Buster Call all by herself and she only got 79 million. All the government officials know about her because the Buster Call cannot hold any exceptions - no survivors allowed. So the fact that she survived and took down a bunch of ships with her is absolutely HUGE, yet she only got 79 mill. Hence I don't the initial bounties on the Mugiwara will be over 80 mill. Yes, attacking Enies Lobby is pretty serious stuff, but so is surviving Buster Call, and remember 79 is Robin's first bounty ever, Luffy already had a bounty b4 the 70 mill jump to 100. So the initial bounties for Sanji I think will around Robin's current bounty; as for Usopp, Chopper, and Nami, they will probably be closer to Zorro's current bounty.
Yah but the reason this did not go higher is because she was only a child. If im not mistaken she wasn't even aware of what she was doing, an accident so to speak. The reason I don't think shell get much of a raise is that she hasn't done anything and it doesn't look like she will. She was so afraid for her nakama that let her self get caught, she wouldnt just work through that fear and fight. I have a fealing this is going to be a lot like the other 2 female arcs, where they barely fight at all.
As for bounties I think for the fighting the guy and chopper will get sometihng and then as there getting away nami wil lget one by using the climatact to destroy buster call. (her weapon attacks such a large area….)
I'm sorry if this has already been stated, but I feel like that I must say my share even if it has already been said.
And there are spoilers for the Water 7 arc, but I assume it is okay since this is the manga thread.
After this arc, their bounties will skyrocket. Seriously, I'm not really sure what it would be, I believe Luffy's would not be 500 million beli because it seems to high, but who knows? It may not be too high, although, 200 to 300 million beli sounds more reasonable.
Why I say 500 million beli for Luffy may not be too high is because what he and the straw hats are doing is extremely serious. Okay, you have this little rookie captain with his 6 rookie crewmates(a small number) who just suddenly appeared out of nowhere to mix in with the other thousand rookie pirates in the grandline. The world government's attention is mostly on Shanks and Whitebeard but they say they are not really concerned with them. Anyway, their attention are on the top pirates. Who cares about the rookies. There are a thousand of them.
Then, all of a sudden, this rookie captain busts into Enies Lobby which is the central point of the world government and has made it as far as the court house (as well as his crew). This has never happened in world history. They are the first pirates to have ever done this. Not even Gol D Roger, the Pirate King, has done this. And we all know that the chance of them succeeding in kicking their buts and escaping with Robin is 80%. Not 100% because Oda is unpredictable. And they are causing a whole bunch of damage.
Normal people may hesitate into bursting into Enies Lobby and causing a ruckus. The Strawhats are pretty much declaring war on the world. It is obvious that most pirates would hesitate striking Enies Lobby or else it would have been done already. Luffy knows what he is doing. The consequences of his actions has been illustrated to him before he arrived and when he arrived. Blueno has first hand account for how brash this guy is. He doesn't care about the consequence, just as long as he gets Robin. This is dangerous because it will send a message to the government saying that this guy will do many risky things that most will not do because he does not care for the consequences of his actions.
Um, what I'm trying to get at (too late) is that the world government will finally see the Strawhats as a serious threat. Heh. They will be embarrassed that rookies were able to get away (embarrassing because it sends a message out to the elite pirates) and angry that they weren't caught. Their bounties might skyrocket because they would want to really catch them.
But who knows.
even you say their change to escape from enias lobby is 80% but i think they will surely still escape from there. because there are no way the hero being caught… and if he does i think the manga will be end isn't it?
anyway... i think straw hats crew will not get caught and their more likely to get a much higer bounty than their current one which will make them be the attention to the WG other than shank and white bread
(sorry for my crappy english)
You're right, it is most likely that they will escape. If they do not, then we have no story. But I can never say it will be 100% because I do not write the story and cannot claim it as fact. So, I'll adjust it to 99% chance that they will escape. That is a 1% that they will not. Better, huh? :laugh:
Luffy 200.000.000 - 250.000.000
(but he'll get a really cool wanted poster)
Sanji 120.000.000
(a surprise here. he gets more than Zoro just too annoy him, however his image will be embarassing, perhaps taken after Califa rammed her knee in his groin for sexually harassing her :) )
Zoro 100.000.000
(once again a bloody Zoro pic)
Robin 79.000.000
(no change here. doesn't do much to deserve a higher bounty)
Franky 70.000.000
(if he joins he'll get more than Chopper but less than either Sanji or Zoro)
Chopper 50.000.000
(his wanted poster will show him in his 3 stages focus on the cute one)
Pauli 30.000.000
(on the odd chance that he should join. he'll be definately cheaper than Chopper)
Nami 0
(I think Nami won't get a bounty as of yet. She'll get one after the next island, when she's one of the two who can leave the boat without being recognized. I can't wait to see her face when she learns that the marines have set a bounty on her)
Usopp 0
(He'll be deadlast to get a bounty)
I also think it's unlikely for Nami or Usopp to end up with bounties (at least not high ones). In fact I'd be doubtful about Chopper as well. Just seems inconsistent to have someone like Nami with a higher bounty on her head than characters such as Arlong.
Bounties should have to do with how dangerous the specific individual is, not who's crew they happen to be in.
Bounties are about the danger to the government.
Arlong was actually not a major threat to the government, with relatively small plans centered around the East Blue.
There are two logical reasons any strawhat will draw big berry:
-They all did things which show they're powerful and antigovernment
-They function as a team, so the minor players might be useful to take down to get the big ones stuck. Could the Strawhats move ahead as fast without Nami or Chopper?
@Sydney:
blahblahblahstrawhats-bounties-will-go-up-cuz-this-is-a-serious-attackblahblah
i comPLETELY agree with wut this guy said. i was actually trying to express this earlier, so im happy someone has as awesome n cool a brain as me lol. great minds think alike, indeed. lol. :P
in chapter 388, chopper does an attack n takes out a few guys, so a bounty for him is now justified. well, jus bein on EL on the opposing side of the government deserves a bounty, imo. or u would die before u got one. these guys r alive n beatin the crap out of everyone. –-> bounties galore
also, by the way the chapter was headed in the end, it seemed like oda was tryna set up a situation for robin and/or franky to fight. like, i was thinking near the end that all robin needed to know to make a decision to fight or not was luffy n co's status. then luffy yells out "ahh im here blha blah blah" so i think she may start to fight now, seeing as how she actually has a pretty good chance of gettin out of here n how life would be so much more fun with luffy's crew. franky always had a will to fight, but i dont think he will fight until robin actually declares that she will fight. its not really necessary, but i think thats how it will go. then, everyone will get nice, big bounties, maybe all 9 digits :O. who knows. if that happened, though, the lowest bounty of the strawhat pirtates would be higher than the lowest bounty of shanks' crew, who has rocker with 90mil (although rocker seems like a pawn to shanks). nma, ill wait and see :)
No… The lowest member of shank's crew, rockstar, was an apprentice.. that doesn't mean his bounty is the least
Uh, and by the way... My new guess (after chapter 388)
Luffy ~ 250.000.000 (Luffy will have nice numbers...)
Sanji ~ 190.000.000
Zoro ~ 175.000.000
Robin ~ 200.000.000
Usopp ~ 90.000.000 (as Sogeking, remember the giants)
Nami ~ 80.000.000 (ya, right :P)
Paulie ~ 100.000.000 (yes, he may not be strong, but he is a main attacker)
Chopper ~ 90.000.000
Franky ~ 150.000.000 (pluton)
Zanbai g ~ 90.000.000 (see Paulie)
Maybe even Iceburg? :P
(A few won't join..)
The WG can't give less... that'd be pretty useless.. Destroying Enies Lobby is just.. more serious than trying to take over east blue like Arlong...
(In the WG's eyes..)
since I think their next main opponents will be blackbeard and kuma (In one arc, though, blackbeard won't get defeated), their bounties have to fit
we don't know blackbeards bounty, but we know kuma's former bounty.. which is about 296 mio (?)
Additionally, we know that Shichibukai's bounties are very small compared to what they should be... According to Oda, Croco's should be doubled....
We didn't know Eneru's bounty (oh, okay, yeah, that's news, eh? :P)... and we don't know the would-be-bounties of cp9 either (I know, they don't have bounties, but I'm sure the WG has their's in mind, just to be on the safe side...)
so my guesses on cp9
Lucchi ~ 190.000.000
Jyabura ~ 180.000.000 (they were rivals.. and the wg doesn't know Jybara is so "weak" now)
Kaku ~ 140.000.000
Blueno ~ 120.000.000 (Luffy kicked his ass quite easily, though)
Calipha ~ 50.000.000
Kumadori ~ 60.000.000
Fukorou ~ 70.000.000
Keep in mind.. wg doesn't know their new douriki, though I don'tthink the WG would value douriki very high Oo...
that'd explain my mugiwara-bounties...
because
Luffy will defeat 310 mio, but they won't count cumulative (he kicked 1000 marines out of enies lobby, too..) .. adding Enies-Lobby-Destruction.. um yeah
Zoro => 160 mio - add ELD
Sanji => 180 mio - add ELD+Train
Usopp => 70 mio - add ELD+giants
Nami => 50 mio - add ELD
Robin => 0 mio - add Porneglyph-reading+being a mugiwara-nakama
Chopper => 60 mio - add ELD
Interesting.
Why do you think that Sanji will get a higher bounty than Zoro?
I think Oda will have Zoro do something that makes him really dangerous, like what Sanji did on the Puffing Tom.
i guess it could be possible for nami to get a bounty higher than 80million..
Robin got hers by accident, sinking a lot of marineships, so
if nami attacks a lot of marines maybe…
she'll get a higher bounty?
Here's are my guesses
Monkey D. Luffy:170,000,000 beri
Roronoa Zoro:120,000,000 beri
Nico Robin:158,000,000 beri
Sanji:80,000,000 beri
Nami:40,000,000 beri
Usopp:35,000,000 beri
Tony Tony Chopper:30,000,000 beri
Paulie:61,000,000 beri
Franky:130,000,000 beri
I think it's too late for Zoro doing something this dangerous on his own.. even if he does, the WG will count it as an action of the whole destruction-team
What I think..
Luffy: 240-260 mil for defeating Blueno, Lucci, 1000 soldiers and for being the leader.
Zoro: 180 mil, for defeating T-Bone, Kaku some of the jurys and soldiers.
Nami: 50-60 for defeating Calipha.
Usopp/Sogeking: 80-90 mil for defeating Fukurou, Corgi and making the giants switch side.
Sanji: 200 mil for taking out most of the trains guards, Jabura.
Chopper: 60-70 mil for defeating Kumadori.
After Kokoro's speech in last chapter, Luffy's head could even be worth 300 mil
What I think..
Zoro: 180 mil, for defeating T-Bone, Kaku some of the jurys and soldiers.
Sanji: 200 mil for taking out most of the trains guards, Jabura.
wasnt T-bone a real tough guy in the marines, and has a high rank. So no matter what sanji does he wont get a higher bounty then zoro. you can say zoro took down the main guy in the sea train
My current guess? Oda apparently mentioned OP passed the halfway point a while back, so if we can expect Whitebeard to be in the billion berry range (and we should find out about this time next year), Luffy's going to need about half that to be of any significance.
Before I post my guesses, note that since this is a World Government attack, and bounties are scaled in proportion to how the World Government feels threatened by a pirate, we should expect outrageously high increases, the World Government might not be able to pay the sum and end up causing hyperinflation and a world wide recession.
Monkey D. Luffy- 500,000,000 Beri
Roronora Zoro- 310,000,000 Beri
Sanji- 182,000,000 Beri
Nico Robin- 74,000,000 Beri (no change)
Sogeking- 51,000,000 Beri (not as Usopp)
Chopper- 40,000,000 Beri
Nami- 30,000,000 Beri
Franky-None
why luffy 500'000'000 and nami only 30'000'000?
I don't buy the hyperinflation argument.
Remember, 500 million beri ~ 500 million yen ~ 5 million US dollars. In the unlikely event they have to pay it, their defence budget is already massive with the number of salaried Marines, replacing ships every 30 minutes when one gets sunk, etc. Furthermore, I'd expect they'd either allocate the money for the bounty when it's issued, or keep a pool of enough money to pay out if several big ones were cashed in at once. The last thing you want to do is to piss off the man who brought in Whitebeard by asking him to be paid on Tuesday for a pirate today.
wasnt T-bone a real tough guy in the marines, and has a high rank. So no matter what sanji does he wont get a higher bounty then zoro. you can say zoro took down the main guy in the sea train
Um… First, nobody witnessed Zoro defeat T-bone anyway. Second, the CP agents would be considered the "main guys," if anybody.
Saying "no matter what Sanji does" is very, very wrong. Sanji's done enough that he might very well get a higher bounty; it'd be an Oda thing to do, based on Sanji's comment about getting a higher bounty than Zoro. Of course, he might not, but right now it's still a possibility.
EDIT:
@Bounty1Berry:
I don't buy the hyperinflation argument.
Remember, 500 million beri ~ 500 million yen ~ 5 million US dollars…. (cut)
Where was it ever mentioned that 1 beri ~ 1 yen?
if we knew how many douriki Luffy, Zoro and Sanji had..
guess it would be easier..
like Zoro just got 5 million more than Mr.1
and Luffy 19million more than Crocodile??
Um… First, nobody witnessed Zoro defeat T-bone anyway. Second, the CP agents would be considered the "main guys," if anybody.
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Well, nobody witnessed Luffy defeat Crocodile, but that didn't stop him from getting a bounty. And second, CP is a WG organisation, T-Bone was one of the highest Marine Officers there.
If Luffy learns how to deal properly, I'd say he could stand to be at 300mil.
why luffy 500'000'000 and nami only 30'000'000?
:mellow:
if we knew how many douriki Luffy, Zoro and Sanji had..
guess it would be easier..
like Zoro just got 5 million more than Mr.1
and Luffy 19million more than Crocodile??
We have an age-old saying here on Arlong Park.
Bounties are NOT Power Levels!
I don't buy the hyperinflation argument.
~blah blah blah, I didn't read Terek's post, blah blah blah~
I was making a joke. Again, if the World Government makes a bounty SO huge on Luffy's head, that if someone were to cash it, they would end up hyperinflating the world economy by pumping millions of excess berries into it.
Luffy said he was gunnin' for Crocodile, and next thing you know Croc goes flying through the ground, all beat up.
Did he say it to someone else then his crewmates?
:mellow:
We have an age-old saying here on Arlong Park.
Bounties are NOT Power Levels!
i was just trying to figure out how the marine make bounties for pirates..
and since CP9 doesn't have bounties, how could you make suggestions about the bounties the strawhats will get…
and is douriki a powerlevel or fighting experience?
In terms of bounties, I think we will soon see an entirely different level of bounties. In terms of money, look at the pimp palace of alabastia, and that is one of over 172 different countries.
Of course We can guess the bounty of cp9
Lucci is strong, yes, but he is also some evil psycho ^^ (who would turn against the wg… )
Um… First, nobody witnessed Zoro defeat T-bone anyway.
Captain T-Bone could call the marines HQ & tell them what happened. He believes in justice, so I think he'll will do that.
Where was it ever mentioned that 1 beri ~ 1 yen?
Admittedly not formally stated, but we analyzed it on this forum a while ago and came to it as a consensus.
http://ap.animemedia.org/showthread.php?t=3842
Also, if the bounties quoted were in millions of dollars, would we see career bounty hunters? Take down that one mountain bandit in Chapter 1 (8 million berries), and you're set for life!
Luffy will definitely get way past 100, even though I have my doubts that he could possibly get more than 300. I mean, that's pretty unlikely. Of course he will have lead an attack against one of the best protected Marinebases on the Grandline, but a 300% higher bounty sounds ridiculous.
And Sanji can't stay behind Zoro tooo much, after all both of them fight together all the time, they play ball and kick/slash walls. They'll most likely always have a comparably high bounty with sanji being behind maybe a few million Zeny. They'll most likely get around 100 mil.
Usopp, Robin, Nami and Chopper didn't fight too much yet, but that will definitely change as soon as they face CP9. The real fights haven't even begun yet, we still have to see Namis new Skills and Usopp using Dials in real combat.
All of them have deserved bounties between 20-40 mil already and they'll most likely get about as much as Zoro has right now.
Luffy 150-200+
Robin 80-120
Zoro 80-120
Sanji 80-120
Usopp 40-80
Chopper 40-80
Nami 30-70
I don't think all of the Straw-Hat will fight CP9 members. I think certain Straw-Hats (Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Usopp/Sogeking, & Robin) will fight certain members. The combined douriki of the CP9 members that those Straw-Hat fight will get them the highest bounties. Nami will get a bounty mainly because of her new Clima-Tact. Chopper will get a bounty if the government learns of his rumble balls. Chopper will get the lowest bounty since he's not as big of a danger to the government as could be helpful to them.
Luffy will get the biggest bounty, with Sogeking (if he's not listed as Usopp) coming in second. If Sogeking doesn't get a bounty, Zoro will get the 2nd highest. Franky will be next. Robin or Sanji will come after, with Usopp (if he's not listed as Sogeking) following behind both of them. Nami comes next, and Chopper comes in last.
Well, nobody witnessed Luffy defeat Crocodile, but that didn't stop him from getting a bounty. And second, CP is a WG organisation, T-Bone was one of the highest Marine Officers there.
great example thanks.
If zoro defeats kaku the second strongest memeber in the cp9 then how will sanji get a higher bounty. Remember what sanji did in Alabasta, it was so important but he didnt even get a bounty for it
Both Robin and Cobra saw when Luffy and Crocodile fought and like all the arabasta rebellions, royal soldiers and marines saw when Luffy sent Crocodile flying…
Now, why i think Sanji will get greater bounty than Zoro, he defeated CP7 and Cp6 all by himself, and remember, the guards where placed in strength level so Wanze is stronger than T-Bone which I can very well imagine, I think it would be quite hard for T-Bone to defeat a maniac with razor sharp rollerblades and a big sword that is posionous. And it is because of Sanji that Zoro could even meet T-Bone. Sanji almost succeded to bring Robin back and he rescued Franky too, which also may also give him a minor incrrease.. For just all that he has done in the train he deserves at least 80 millions, and now if he defeat Jabura and Zoro defeats Kaku, then I think Sanji will get higher bounty than Zoro.. Unless Zoro will do something more.
I guess luffy get the highest,
but if Nami would make a terrible attack with her climatact… she could get a enormous bounty as well
with what kuroro baasan said on the latest chapter, i think the mugiwara pirates will now have an almost equal bounty w/ whitebeard
I see Luffy getting 300 because:
the first pirate to ever launch an attack on EL, literally. Spandam felt that because it was for only one friend, he was mocking the gov't. Blueno told us that it was like declaring himself a menace to 170 countries.
taking out like a thousand guards.
beating up world class assassins.
harboring Nico Robin and possibly Franky
Both Robin and Cobra saw when Luffy and Crocodile fought and like all the arabasta rebellions, royal soldiers and marines saw when Luffy sent Crocodile flying…
But Cobra or Robin wouldn't tell the gov't. Smoker knew, and reported it.
500m and 30m…
luffy getting a increase by 400m... while nami only gets 30m overall? that'd e strange...