I always have a hard time figuring out which chapters caused high ratings or low ones. Shokugeki has been all over the place and it's down low again.
It doesn't matter. The EiC is the one that ultimately makes the decision.
I always have a hard time figuring out which chapters caused high ratings or low ones. Shokugeki has been all over the place and it's down low again.
It doesn't matter. The EiC is the one that ultimately makes the decision.
EiC is Editor-in-Chief btw.
It doesn't matter. The EiC is the one that ultimately makes the decision.
EiC is the one deciding the rankings? I thought they were based on feedback from the readers.
EiC is the one deciding the rankings? I thought they were based on feedback from the readers.
It is based on the feedback from the readers, but the chief editor may impact on the ranking as well (like first 7 ranking for new series).
EiC is the one deciding the rankings? I thought they were based on feedback from the readers.
The infamous interview with Oda states that while feedback from readership is necessary what order the ToC goes in is ultimately up to the editor in chief. One Piece will always be in the top 3 for example (I think it only left the top 5 once and that was only because Oda sent in his manuscript late that week) because of popularity but everything else is depending on reader feedback but even if a chapter is well-received the EiC would still decide to push another series ahead of it.
This Week's Jump Comic Sales:
01. One Piece #87 (1,505,639)
02. Boku no Hero Academia #16 (274,338)
03. Shokugeki no Souma #27 (174,721)
04. Dragon Ball Super #4 (150,889)
05. Yakusoku no Neverland #6 (144,360)
06. Boruto -Naruto Next Generations- #4 (136,286)
07. Owari no Seraph #15 (129,313)
09. Dragon Ball Gaiden Tensei Shitara Yamcha Datta Ken (78,822)
11. Platinum End #7 (73,951)
14. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san #8 (64,523)
16. Sousei no Onmyouji #13 (57,905)
22. Yuukoku no Moriarty #4 (37,331)
31. Haikyuu!! #28 (25,702 / 640,913)
32. Hinomaru Zumou #17 (24,251)
35. Shokugeki no Souma L'etoile #5 (21,502)
36. Katsugeki Touken Ranbu #1 (21,048)
37. Kemono Jihen #3 (21,036)
46. Jigoku Sensei Nuuuubeeee Neo #12 (17,485)
50. Fire Punch #7 (16,827)
@Kaizou:
It looks like Kishimoto Masashi (author of Naruto) going to release one shot on Weekly Morning (from Kodansha) as part of its 35th year anniversary. I wonder whether this is one time thing or Kishi decided to move to different magazine.
Its a misprint. Its his twin brother Seishi Kishimoto (author of 666 Satan).
@Kaizou:
It is based on the feedback from the readers, but the chief editor may impact on the ranking as well (like first 7 ranking for new series).
Based on but not decided by. It’s a table of contents and not a ranking. Between editors on the radio, Eiichiro Oda, and the former EiC who works for Viz now that has got to be clear. The 8 week rule was a myth perpetuated over years. It would be bad business to use it as a literal ranking, even if the idea of unpopular series being towards the back is true.
Please, can we all just let this die?
@Maxy:
Based on but not decided by. It’s a table of contents and not a ranking. Between editors on the radio, Eiichiro Oda, and the former EiC who works for Viz now that has got to be clear. The 8 week rule was a myth perpetuated over years. It would be bad business to use it as a literal ranking, even if the idea of unpopular series being towards the back is true.
Please, can we all just let this die?
I'm not sure. I believe the editors didn't really give clear explanation about their system.
We only have rumors and Bakuman to go by.
IThe table of contents still definitely gives you a good idea of the popularity of each series (like, it's no coincidence One Piece is always 1, 2, or 3, and the stuff that ends up cancelled is always at the bottom) but yeah definitely not an exact science, especially with the middle ranking series, I'm sure.
Young Jump Issue 50:
Riku-dou (Lead CP)
Kingdom
Bathroom no Pepen
Fushigi no Kuni no Namihee-san
Tokyo Ghoul:re
Usogui
Motoyan (CP)
Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai
Bungo
Diner
Tamata
Rin to Cheer。(CP)
Minamoto-kun Monogatari
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
Snack Basue
Helvetica
Keppeki Danshi! Aoyama-kun
Himouto! Umaru-chan (CP, Part 1 End)
Black Night Parade
Jijii no Umagoto (One Shot)
Ame Dake Watashi ni Mikata Suru (One Shot)
Yuizaki-san wa Nageru!
Full Drum
Golden Kamuy (Absent)
Young Jump Issue 51:
Lead CP: Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
CP: Minamoto-kun Monogatari, Black Night Parade, Full Drum (End)
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@Kaizou:
I'm not sure. I believe the editors didn't really give clear explanation about their system.
Then all the more reason to not treat any of it like an exact science ourselves.
IThe table of contents still definitely gives you a good idea of the popularity of each series (like, it's no coincidence One Piece is always 1, 2, or 3, and the stuff that ends up cancelled is always at the bottom) but yeah definitely not an exact science, especially with the middle ranking series, I'm sure.
Yeah there’s definitely stuff to it, especially at the back. Just always best to treat it as a loose indication at most.
Also unrelatedly here’s some circulation figures for Japanese anthologies, including Jump’s various mags. Generally minor declines all around (as per with comics publishing) but Weekly Young Jump increases by a couple thousand copies, which is nice. http://www.mangamag.fr/actualite/actualite-manga/tirages-magazines-de-pre-publication-de-mangas-juillet-a-septembre-2017/amp/
@Maxy:
Then all the more reason to not treat any of it like an exact science ourselves.
And there is no reason to treat that 8 weeks rule is false. Jump editors don't really say anything about this rule (and I doubt they ever will), so people who like believe 8 weeks rule should stick to it. If you don't believe it, then that's fine.
@Kaizou:
And there is no reason to treat that 8 weeks rule is false. Jump editors don't really say anything about this rule (and I doubt they ever will), so people who like believe 8 weeks rule should stick to it. If you don't believe it, then that's fine.
It’s not that I don’t believe it, it’s that it’s not true. It was made up in online communities based on when failed series hit the bottom. We used to call it the 5 week rule just a decade ago. Part of why editors don’t say anything about it is simply because it’s not a thing to say stuff about.
It’s not the most harmful thing, I get it. But when communities put too much credence in something like this it’s unhealthy, and warps the way we look at these magazines, to say nothing of all the armchair commentators acting as if it’s gospel fact.
I’m being curmudgeonly here I know. But man after seeing this grow as an idea over like eleven years I can’t help but make the effort to help dispel it, especially with all the actual info we’ve gotten from verifiable sources in the last few years
@Maxy:
Part of why editors don’t say anything about it is simply because it’s not a thing to say stuff about.
Well, that's just your assumption as well. The editor isn't going to write every little thing about how Jump is running, like do you think Jump going announce how their business is running? I doubt that. Also, the editors actually didn't even deny about the rule as well; so, they are standing at neutral right now.
As I said, there are people who believe the Jump's ranking system (maybe not exactly 8 weeks, but somewhere near), and there are people who aren't. I'm actually the one who believe at least Jump's ToC reflects on the ranking. So, just stay with what people believe.
@Kaizou:
Well, that's just your assumption as well. The editor isn't going to write every little thing about how Jump is running, like do you think Jump going announce how their business is running? I doubt that. Also, the editors actually didn't even deny about the rule as well; so, they are standing at neutral right now.
As I said, there are people who believe the Jump's ranking system (maybe not exactly 8 weeks, but somewhere near), and there are people who aren't. I'm actually the one who believe at least Jump's ToC reflects on the ranking. So, just stay with what people believe.
So because we don’t know everything about their business, we should believe a thing they’ve never even seen fit to commentate on? Man I just don’t know this is some flawed burden of proof stuff here. Also, when what they’re saying dictates the order of series in the magazine is a bunch of stuff that isn’t “feedback from 8 weeks ago” then it’s as good as a denial. You gotta question this stuff, especially when it’s a magazine label that a given person invest so much of their online identity into.
I do worry this is sounding like a proper argument, so I do wanna just say that I am actually enjoying this chat very much and am finding it interesting to hear your angle on it
@Maxy:
So because we don’t know everything about their business, we should believe a thing they’ve never even seen fit to commentate on? Man I just don’t know this is some flawed burden of proof stuff here. Also, when what they’re saying dictates the order of series in the magazine is a bunch of stuff that isn’t “feedback from 8 weeks ago” then it’s as good as a denial. You gotta question this stuff, especially when it’s a magazine label that a given person invest so much of their online identity into.
I do worry this is sounding like a proper argument, so I do wanna just say that I am actually enjoying this chat very much and am finding it interesting to hear your angle on it
If you're just talking about 8 weeks rule, then I get your point. It is possibly not exactly 8 weeks, but I do think there is some period which every new series are not being ranked and their first ranking showed several weeks after. And I think that is definitely happening.
Plus, those ranking should reflect on the reader's comment, like how can you explain why certain series are always in the back and some are front. If is random, then series should placed everywhere, like OP being placed on the bottom. The ToC should reflect the results from the readers.
For me personally, I'm not detailed oriented like checking what chapter was it on 8 weeks ago. But, at least, ToC are guideline for the current series' reception.
Is dividing series into parts a trend of Young Jump now? TG, Uratarou, Umaru, Shinobi sth,… I feel like this trend is pretty unnecessary :/
It's marketing. People get intimidated by big chapter counts.
Shounen Jump Issue 51 Preview:
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It was announced that Yuragi no Yuuna-San is getting an anime.
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Usogui Volume 48
Minamoto-kun Monogatari Volume 11
Kimi wa Midara na Boku no Joou Volume 2 (Final)
Riku-dou Volume 14
Keppeki Danshi! Aoyama-kun Volume 11
Motoyan Volume 10
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu Volume 8
Uratarou Volume 6 (Final)
Black Night Parade Volume 2
Kaori Warning! Volume 2
Helvetica Volume 2
Rin to Cheer。Volume 1
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Koi wa Hikari Volume 7 (Final)
Lady & Oldman Volume 4
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Sundome!! Milky Way Volume 2
Kouun Ryuusui Volume 1 & 2
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It was announced that Yuragi no Yuuna-San is getting an anime.
Based on Kaisou's post above yours, looks to be more ecchi than even Souma…
Riku-dou's cover made me think that was Killua lol.
Based on Kaisou's post above yours, looks to be more ecchi than even Souma…
And your point is?
Based on Kaisou's post above yours, looks to be more ecchi than even Souma…
Well, Souma isn't even doing much ecchi these days.
And your point is?
Can't see it translating to anime well is all. But then if Monster Musume can have an anime…
Can't see it translating to anime well is all. But then if Monster Musume can have an anime…
You also forgot about To Love-Ru. I don't see any problem on adapting ecchi into anime.
Can't see it translating to anime well is all. But then if Monster Musume can have an anime…
Hmm, you're very out of touch with anime man, because we have plenty of ecchi series that are translated perfectly well into anime and have good or decent sales, some of them way more "lewd" than Yuragisou.
Shounen Jump Issue 51:
Kimetsu no Yaiba (Lead CP)
Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
Haikyuu!!
Dr. Stone
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Yakusoku no Neverland (CP)
Boku no Hero Academia
Golem Hearts
Tomatoypoo no Lycopene
Boruto (Cover, CP)
Full Drive
Shoodan! (CP)
Robot×Laserbeam
Gintama
Cross Account
Spring Weapon Number One
Shokugeki no Souma
Tomatoypoo no Lycopene
One Piece (Absent)
Shounen Jump Issue 52:
Cover, Lead CP: One Piece
CP: Hinomaru Zumou, Robot×Laserbeam
Jesus, what a mess kkkk
We Can't Study is on the top and Soma is dead last….What Alternate Dimension we are living in? Oh. The same that has Trump as president.
Grand Jump Issue 24:
Kouun Ryuusui (Cover, Lead CP)
Furin Shokudou
Amai Seikatsu 2nd Season
Play Ball 2
Radiation House
Koko wa Imakara Rinri Desu。(CP, Special Chapter)
Black Tiger
Captain Tsubasa Rising Sun
Uramiya Honpo Worst
Sundome!! Milky Way
The Naniwa Kinyuu-dou
Jigoku Sensei Nuuuubeeee Neo
Innocent Rouge
Ashitaba-san Chi no Muko Gurashi
Kurogane-Kai
Ex-Arm
Ousama no Shitateya
Takeda Yakuin Taiguu
Chibi Shikaku-chan (Absent)
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Grand Jump Issue 1:
Cover: Funouhan
Lead CP: Noise (New Series by Tsutsui Tetsuya (author of Yokokuhan))
CP: Play Ball 2
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This Week's Jump Comic Sales:
01. One Piece #87 (396,249 / 1,901,888)
03. Boku no Hero Academia #16 (125,466 / 399,804)
05. Shokugeki no Souma #27 (86,570 / 261,291)
07. Yakusoku no Neverland #6 (67,628 / 211,988)
08. Dragon Ball Super #4 (66,856 / 217,745)
09. Owari no Seraph #15 (65, 711 / 195,024)
10. Boruto -Naruto Next Generations- #4 (63,986 / 200,272)
16. Platinum End #7 (38,475 / 112,426)
20. Sousei no Onmyouji #13 (28,530 / 86,435)
21. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san #8 (27,661 / 92,184)
26. Yuukoku no Moriarty #4 (21,575 / 58,906)
39. Dragon Ball Gaiden Tensei Shitara Yamcha Datta Ken (14,829 / 93,651)
46. Haikyuu!! #28 (13,446 / 654,359)
48. Kemono Jihen #3 (12,338 / 33,374)
Ultra Jump December Issue:
Oukoku Monogatari (Cover, Lead CP)
No Guns Life
Melancholia
Assassins Pride
Lady & Oldman (CP)
Biorg Trinity
Dasei 67 Percent
Mononogatari
Hayate×Blade 2 (End)
Jojolion
Maousama Chotto Sore Totte!!
Invici Meiko (One Shot)
Ad Astra
Usagi-moku Shachiku-ka
Connect
Rapaz Theme Park
Border World (End)
Levius/est
Kaijin Yochien, Rozen Maiden 0 (Absent)
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Ultra Jump January Issue:
Cover: Jojolion
CP: Maousama Chotto Sore Totte!!
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It is confirmed that Kodama Yuuki (author of Blood Lad) going to start new series in Jump SQ. (unknown when, though).
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Karada Sagashi Volume 16
Love Deathter Volume 9
Food Fighter Tabelu Volume 6
Akuma no Memumemu-chan Volume 4
Aharen-san wa Hakarenai Volume 2
Ao no Flag Volume 3
Route End Volume 3
Shuukyokyu Engage Volume 3
Dorei Yuugi Volume 2
Aisareru Yori ◯-saretai Volume 2
Roji-ura Bunch Volume 1
High Risk Mission Therapy Volume 1
Aezyuma-sama no Gakkou Volume 1
Tomogui Kyoushitsu Volume 1
Hidari-kiki no Eren Volume 1
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Shounen Jump Issue 52:
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Dr. Stone
Yakusoku no Neverland
Black Clover
Gintama
Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
Boku no Hero Academia
Golem Hearts
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Full Drive
Kikou Shounen Aegis (One Shot)
Tomatoypoo no Lycopene
Robot×Laserbeam (CP)
Shokugeki no Souma
Haikyuu!!
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Cross Account
Spring Weapon Number One
Shoodan!
Tomatoypoo no Lycopene
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan (Absent)
Shounen Jump Issue 1 (50th Anniversary Important Announcement):
Cover, Lead CP: Haikyuu!!
CP: Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san, Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai, Dr. Stone
One Piece color page, nice.
It looks like Yagi Norihiro's (author of Angel Densetsu and Claymore) upcoming Shounen Sunday's new series is actually the serialized version of one shot which he released in Shounen Jump. I'm kind of surprised that Shueisha allowed Yagi to do this series in different publisher.
I don't know all the internal mechanics of such business but authors in Japan seem to have a lot of ownership and control over their works.
So I'd say it's possible Shueisha couldn't stop such a deal, even if they wanted to. Maybe they have publishing rights for the original one-shot but not for a series that was made after that deal was done.
My guess is that as it was a more established author, they didn't made him pass through the appropriate number of legal loops, and he could escape. Or something more benign, as they just said "eh, OK, we won't publish it".
This Week's Jump Comic Sales:
02. One Piece #89 (138,487 / 2,040,375)
08. Boku no Hero Academia #16 (48,168 / 447,972)
22. Shokugeki no Souma #27 (29,470 / 290,761)
23. Owari no Seraph #15 (28,220 / 223,244)
24. Dragon Ball Super #4 (28,139 / 245,884)
27. Yakusoku no Neverland #6 (25,398 / 237,386)
33. Boruto -Naruto Next Generations- #4 (22,195 / 222,467)
@Kaizou:
It looks like Yagi Norihiro's (author of Angel Densetsu and Claymore) upcoming Shounen Sunday's new series is actually the serialized version of one shot which he released in Shounen Jump. I'm kind of surprised that Shueisha allowed Yagi to do this series in different publisher.
Wonder if he will release weekly or this will be another silver spoon/birdmen
So, there is like 2 or 3 Jump issues left for this year, and how many people think Togashi going to keep his word?