Thanks Sandman:happy:
So I guess that the World's Strongest was suppose to be hold by the yonko :wassat:
And Gorosei
Thanks Sandman:happy:
So I guess that the World's Strongest was suppose to be hold by the yonko :wassat:
And Gorosei
is it true oda's editor said we'd be in the wano arc by October?
is it true oda's editor said we'd be in the wano arc by October?
Wasn't it that we'd see Reverie and Wano before the end of the year?
Wasn't it that we'd see Reverie and Wano before the end of the year?
Also, just because an editor says something, can we truly trust it 100%?
Because me personally, I think we get at least 5 more chapters of whole cake an then a couple transitional chapter before we get to Reverie. And don't forget at least 3 more breaks. And I doubt Reverie will be done in 4 chapters. I mean, everyone preparing and traveling to reverie was already around 2 (okay, maybe 1 chapter in total) chapters. Certainly Reverie is much longer than preparing for Reverie, right?
Also, just because an editor says something, can we truly trust it 100%?
Definitely not. To me, even if Oda said something like that, we'd have to see it as "he plans to have X wrapped up before a certain date" more than a fact. As he writes his story – and he admitted it -- he often gets caught up in detours he may not have originally planned to go through.
Because me personally, I think we get at least 5 more chapters of whole cake an then a couple transitional chapter before we get to Reverie. And don't forget at least 3 more breaks. And I doubt Reverie will be done in 4 chapters. I mean, everyone preparing and traveling to reverie was already around 2 (okay, maybe 1 chapter in total) chapters. Certainly Reverie is much longer than preparing for Reverie, right?
Since the arc has been dragging on and on these last few chapters, I don't think 5 chapters would be enough to end it. I mean, there are so many things to do: dealing with Katakuri and Perospero, Big Mom, Smoothie and the Capone gang, the Sun Pirates, G66… Plus the cake that has to be baked -- and I hope this will get the attention it deserves. I'm sure Oda can make baking a cake intense. He could fill it with emotions, going back and forth between present and past as a way to write a conclusion to Sanji's flashback and his character-arc as a whole. There are many ways of doing it well (I thought of making it a full chapter with no dialogue, just beautiful representations of the different steps in baking the cake), I'd just like Oda to take his time and not be pressured by deadlines that the editor may indirectly be giving him by announcing to the world that Wa no is just a few months away. It could replace the usual end-of-arc fights that we have, and I'd love it.
In short, probably more than 5 chapters for me. I'd say at least 9.
As for Reverie, I have no idea of how it will be dealt with. I'm not expecting it to be really long, but anything could happen when you gather so many important rulers in one place in an unstable world.
Well, we need the baking of the wedding cake, a resolution with Pudding and some other characters, some "after-the-climax" chapters like in almost any arc, maybe a cut to Zoro and the others at Wano like we had at Dressrosa with the Swirlyhats in Zou, Jinbe joining and maybe if only a small flashback for him…
My bet is about 890 for this to end. We than need some transitional chapters and the Reverie at least starting. My guess is that the Reverie will be basically sandwiched between the gigantic Wano Arc. We'll see the start of it and maybe some event there, than cut to Wano. After kaido goes down, cut back to the Reverie to see the repurcussions (pressure on the Gorosei to dismantle the Shichibukai, giving Sakazuki broad powers to end the Pirate Age or something like that...)
I would be amazed if Wano starts before 900, probably even closer to 910. What this means for the "Wano in 2017" predictions I don't think I have to specifically state.
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cut back to the Reverie to see the repurcussions (pressure on the Gorosei to dismantle the Shichibukai[…])
That's a good thought. Doflamingo was such a mess, if the WG wants to control all of this they need to at least convince the people that such tragedies will never happen again.
That's a good thought. Doflamingo was such a mess, if the WG want to control all of this they need to at least convince the people that such tragedies will never happen again.
Thanks. And the Gorosei probably won't succeed, especially if for instance Weevil will wreak havoc too (he will likely play a role in Wano, since Marco and Jozu will and his story is tied to them).
Now my gut feeling as to what will happen at the start of the Reverie is Kaido appearing there (remember the Drake-Caribou-Shirahoshi-plot) than cut to Wano. Wouldn't this be a great way to get in the right mood for Wano if we have seen Kaido doing some crazy sh*t at the Reverie?
@Big:
Now my gut feeling as to what will happen at the start of the Reverie is Kaido appearing there (remember the Drake-Caribou-Shirahoshi-plot) than cut to Wano. Wouldn't this be a great way to get in the right mood for Wano if we have seen Kaido doing some crazy sh*t at the Reverie?
I don't know. Not sure if declaring war upon the World Government is his best course of action, considering that the last Emperor that did so died. But who knows what he could end up doing with the right amount of booze running in his veins?
I don't know. Not sure if declaring war upon the World Government is his best course of action, considering that the last Emperor that did so died. But who knows what he could end up doing with the right amount of booze running in his veins?
His whole character introduction was about him doing crazy and insane stuff after all.
@Big:
His whole character introduction was about him doing crazy and insane stuff after all.
Didn't he literally say in his introduction chapter "prepare yourself Joker for the biggest war I'll start"?
Even though he didn't specify whether it'll be against the world government or t another pirate/pirate group, we should cross out the possibility of him doing something crazy.
Just for the sake of it, WSJ has 13 issues left this year. Subtracting Oda's periodic brakes from this number, One Piece should have 10 chapters left. Although I should mention that Jump's new year actually begins before the end of the current year. But at most there should be 2 more chapters. So 12 at most for OP. My estimate for this arc ending is around 10 chapters. I don't think we'll be seeing either Reverie or Wano this year, folks. Maybe in mid December. Very likely in January, in my opinion.
Hope to see Moriah and Bekadidact again
Malaysian website budakgetah.com interviewed Hiroyuki Nakano, new Weekly Shonen Jump Editor-in-Chief, for “Eiichiro Oda presents Hello, ONE PIECE Luffy is here!” event some days ago.
http://www.budakgetah.com/sesi-interview-bersama-ketua-editor-weekly-shonen-jump/
Here english translation, thanks to YonkouProductions.
Malaysian website budakgetah.com interviewed Hiroyuki Nakano, new Weekly Shonen Jump Editor-in-Chief, for “Eiichiro Oda presents Hello, ONE PIECE Luffy is here!” event some days ago.
http://www.budakgetah.com/sesi-interview-bersama-ketua-editor-weekly-shonen-jump/
Here english translation, thanks to YonkouProductions.
Thanks for the translation YonkouProductions. Though I wonder why would they waste an oppoturnity like this to ask the same old questions everyone always asks…
Well I hope this exhibition will come to Vietnam, it's so close, yet so far.
Wow. I didn't even realise there was a One Piece online community in my own country. That's pretty cool.
isn't it a known fact that previous editors of OP know about the big finalle that Oda has planned since the beginning of the manga? this part got me confused.
isn't it a known fact that previous editors of OP know about the
big finallethat Oda has planned since the beginning of the manga? this part got me confused.
This is WSJ's new editor, he's not OP's editor.
He's overseeing the whole magazine so I'm guessing he's not the one Oda "spilled the beans" too.
It's quite possible that he knows that Oda reveals the ending to his editors in order to work better but he has no reason to say that in the interview.
It's a better mystique to say that only the author knows the ending to the series rather than "Only the author and a handful of guys you don't need to pay anymind to know the ending".
Here are some trivia revealed in ONE PIECE Magazine volume 3. A few of them are already-known facts, though.
- Oda originally planned that Doflamingo and Corazon had no blood relationship. Corazon was just one of his subordinates. Doflamingo had no brothers or sisters. Vergo's code name was Sir Dean.
- The name of Donquixote Homing was originally Donquixote Dressking. He and Cobra were good friends.
I'm really glad how the first one turned out, Cora being just a spy would boring.
About the second though, I don't get it. Was Cobra going to be a friend of "Dressking", but it was later changed along with the name or the final version of Homing was a friend of Cobra and it wasn't portrayed in a manga yet? Could you clarify?
Was Cobra going to be a friend of "Dressking", but it was later changed along with the name or the final version of Homing was a friend of Cobra and it wasn't portrayed in a manga yet? Could you clarify?
The notebook says Cobra was a friend of "Dressking", but it's not confirmed yet if he was a friend of "Homing". Maybe Oda will talk about it in SBS or something.
The notebook says Cobra was a friend of "Dressking", but it's not confirmed yet if he was a friend of "Homing". Maybe Oda will talk about it in SBS or something.
Thanks. It would be interesting if it was the case, especially if Cobra would be the one who taught Homing about equality between humans, indirectly causing Doflamingo's descent into madness and suffering of Dresrossa. Would make Alabasta's and Crocodile's story a cruel "retribution" of fate.
- Doflamingo thought, "I'm gonna become king of the world!" when he escaped from Marijoa. Then he formed a crime syndicate in "Downs" in North Blue.
- After Roger got executed, Doflamingo made up his mind, "I'm gonna become King of the Pirates!"
That would make Doflamingo at least 30% a better character.
- Oda is really grateful to Hisashi Sasaki, Vice President of Global SHONENJUMP since he made a lot of effort to realize the serialization of ONE PIECE despite many editors being against it.
Interesting. So quite a lot editors thought OP as not worthy to get serialized? Does that mean they were told all the major plot points including the end in order to decide?
Interesting. So quite a lot editors thought OP as not worthy to get serialized? Does that mean they were told all the major plot points including the end in order to decide?
Probably not.
From what's known about this process (mostly due to Bakuman) the editors judge the one-shot (in this case Romance Dawn v.2) and then ask for a general direction/tone of the series, in OP's case it was probably something like "The main guy is a pirate with this crazy power and he wants to find the rarest treasure of the world and become the greatest pirate ever, so he goes onto the seas to find a crew/friends and get into crazy/fun adventures, fighintg bad guys along the way."
Here is my summary for an interview with successive 3 ONE PIECE editors, Asada, Habuta and Sugita. It was revealed a few days ago on the official website.
Editors meeting in Shueisha turned down ONE PIECE several times before its serialization. Asada recalls he hated his boss because of his inability to grasp the awesomeness of ONE PIECE.
One day, Asada got so mad that he made a rebuttal statement for editors meeting.
An old envelope was shown to Sugita, on which opinions from various editors were written about an early chapter in ONE PIECE.
Sugita was surprised to read that some editors were against OP since he thought it was already very popular among editors since the beginning.
When Asada finished his career as OP editor in 2001, he shed tears and said to the next editor Habuta, "I'll leave the rest to you about ONE PIECE, Habuta-san!"
Chapter 1 between manga and anime are pretty different. In anime, chapter 1 started in Albida arc.
This was because anime staffs claimed that they should focus on Luffy's current funny and interesting personality rather than his backstory.
Asada had a controversy with anime staffs about it since he thought audience would not get hooked until they know the reason why Luffy became a pirate.
Asada says he can now somewhat understand their opinion, though.
Sugita has been admiring Oda so much that he kept calling him "Oda-sensei" unintentionally for a month despite Oda having told him not to call him Oda-sensei.
All 3 editors in the interview agree that Oda's personality is great in that he has been friendly and far from conceit despite him being very popular mangaka.
Malaysian website budakgetah.com interviewed Hiroyuki Nakano, new Weekly Shonen Jump Editor-in-Chief, for “Eiichiro Oda presents Hello, ONE PIECE Luffy is here!” event some days ago.
http://www.budakgetah.com/sesi-interview-bersama-ketua-editor-weekly-shonen-jump/
Why is Oda not here?
He is drawing manga…
I thought that answer was hilarious
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That would make Doflamingo at least 30% a better character.
Wasn´t that obvious from his character?
I mean of course not exactly in these words but the fact that he wanted revenge while ruling the world was obvious, Oda showing him at Roger´s execution + Rayleigh saying many prominent players in the world took away something from Roger´s words
Thanks for the translation Sandman,
I have this Question, Why doesn't the editor continue his work until the end of one piece or expelled by Oda? Why a specific period for each editor. to be frank this question bothered me ..
I will be thankful for the Answer, if u have one..
Thanks Sandman for translations.
Thanks for the translation Sandman,
I have this Question, Why doesn't the editor continue his work until the end of one piece or expelled by Oda? Why a specific period for each editor. to be frank this question bothered me ..
I will be thankful for the Answer, if u have one..
Shonen Jump does this with all of it's manga. Editors can get switched around for various reasons. For example, if you have somebody editing One Piece and it's very succesful, you may want that Editor to work on a new series to ensure that it gets popular.
- An old envelope was shown to Sugita, on which opinions from various editors were written about an early chapter in ONE PIECE.
Sugita was surprised to read that some editors were against OP since he thought it was already very popular among editors since the beginning.
One of the rare cases, that OP wasn´t praised^^
Thanks sandman for translating, very appreciated.
Imagine you being one of the editors who wanted to reject One Piece
And then try to justify you being a good editor
To be fair, OP is one of those few popular series about which newcomers will often hear "wait 'till X and then form an opinion" or "it might be boring at the start, but once X happens…", when X (for OP) is usually Arlong Park (68 chapters in). So it's not like there was nothing in these editors' intuitions. I don't know when did it become a hit in Japan though.
Much appreciated Md-Martin
that's helpful
thnks
To be fair, OP is one of those few popular series about which newcomers will often hear "wait 'till X and then form an opinion" or "it might be boring at the start, but once X happens…", when X (for OP) is usually Arlong Park (68 chapters in). So it's not like there was nothing in these editors' intuitions. I don't know when did it become a hit in Japan though.
people said that?
people said that?
I think most times I've seen someone recommend OP to someone else something along these lines was mentioned. By the way, I didn't like a single arc (well, aside of chapter 1 which is self-contained story of its own) before Loguetown which is probably one of the weirdest hook up points of OP.
To be fair, OP is one of those few popular series about which newcomers will often hear "wait 'till X and then form an opinion" or "it might be boring at the start, but once X happens…", when X (for OP) is usually Arlong Park (68 chapters in). So it's not like there was nothing in these editors' intuitions. I don't know when did it become a hit in Japan though.
Pretty early, by the time Arlong Park started, it was already top 3 behind Kenshin and Conan, and next year the best selling.
Still, how can someone read that first chapter and come to the conclusion to reject it…
I guess the main reason might have been the artstyle. If you look at the roster back then, OP really sticks out with its comical character features.
Here is my summary for an interview with successive 3 ONE PIECE editors, Asada, Habuta and Sugita. It was revealed a few days ago on the official website.
Editors meeting in Shueisha turned down ONE PIECE several times before its serialization. Asada recalls he hated his boss because of his inability to grasp the awesomeness of ONE PIECE.
One day, Asada got so mad that he made a rebuttal statement for editors meeting.An old envelope was shown to Sugita, on which opinions from various editors were written about an early chapter in ONE PIECE.
Sugita was surprised to read that some editors were against OP since he thought it was already very popular among editors since the beginning.When Asada finished his career as OP editor in 2001, he shed tears and said to the next editor Habuta, "I'll leave the rest to you about ONE PIECE, Habuta-san!"
Chapter 1 between manga and anime are pretty different. In anime, chapter 1 started in Albida arc.
This was because anime staffs claimed that they should focus on Luffy's current funny and interesting personality rather than his backstory.
Asada had a controversy with anime staffs about it since he thought audience would not get hooked until they know the reason why Luffy became a pirate.
Asada says he can now somewhat understand their opinion, though.Sugita has been admiring Oda so much that he kept calling him "Oda-sensei" unintentionally for a month despite Oda having told him not to call him Oda-sensei.
All 3 editors in the interview agree that Oda's personality is great in that he has been friendly and far from conceit despite him being very popular mangaka.
Well that was a pleasant read. Thanks a bunch as always, Sandman! ;)
Here is my translation for Oda's comment in "ONE PIECE The 24th Logs" released 1 hour ago
Oda: I can't forget the color spread in which many Marines gathered for ONE PIECE Film Z. I'm not totally sure why I decided to draw it, but I remember saying, "I wanna draw this". I just thought, "It would be enjoyable to imagine and draw many Marines in their youth", but it turned out to be really hard work. First of all, I told my 2 editors to make copies of all panels in all volumes where Marines are included since of course I didn't remember all of their faces. Then, the editors sent me copies as thick as Kojien (one of the most authoritative Japanese dictionaries), I believe it was hard work for them since the copy even covered some Marines who spoke only a few words. After checking if the editors missed some panels, I drew how Marines looked like 20 years ago. It was really hard and interesting work since I was busy due to weekly chapters and supervising Film Z.
…Wait, it seems I haven't focused on telling about the theme of this column yet, right?
Speaking of hard work, it's really hard to draw patterns of Kimono like I did in Kabuki color spread. On top of that, There are many rules for Kimono we don't know.
Well, whatever. I don't feel good to say repeatedly, "It was hard work". Actually, they weren't hard work at all !!
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Here is my translation for Oda's comment in "ONE PIECE The 24th Logs" released 1 hour ago[emoji2]
Oda: I can't forget the color spread in which many Marines gathered for ONE PIECE Film Z. I'm not totally sure why I decided to draw it, but I remember saying, "I wanna draw this". I just thought, "It would be enjoyable to imagine and draw many Marines in their youth", but it turned out to be really hard work. First of all, I told my 2 editors to make copies of all panels in all volumes where Marines are included since of course I didn't remember all of their faces. Then, the editors sent me copies as thick as Kojien (one of the most authoritative Japanese dictionaries), I believe it was hard work for them since the copy even covered some Marines who spoke only a few words. After checking if the editors missed some panels, I drew how Marines looked like 20 years ago. It was really hard and interesting work since I was busy due to weekly chapters and supervising Film Z.
…Wait, it seems I haven't focused on telling about the theme of this column yet, right?Speaking of hard work, it's really hard to draw patterns of Kimono like I did in Kabuki color spread. On top of that, There are many rules for Kimono we don't know.
Well, whatever. I don't feel good to say repeatedly, "It was hard work". Actually, they weren't hard work at all !![hide][qimg]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/5a/75/bd5a75ffd094201036612e93357a4e0a.jpg[/qimg]
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I can't thank you enough. Thank you…
I'm not sure if I should be asking this here ou if this had already been discussed, but I read somewhere that Oda first thought of Katakuri being logia, but now he's changed his mind to "Special Paramecia", during some of his interviews or something. It's that true? While I agree that mochi isn't a nature element, this is the only thing about his DF that keeps him off from logia. Sorry if I'm posting on the wrong place
I'm not sure if I should be asking this here ou if this had already been discussed, but I read somewhere that Oda first thought of Katakuri being logia, but now he's changed his mind to "Special Paramecia", during some of his interviews or something. It's that true? While I agree that mochi isn't a nature element, this is the only thing about his DF that keeps him off from logia. Sorry if I'm posting on the wrong place
I don't remember that coming from an interview. We literally saw the classification change across the weekly and volume releases, where Jimbei's quote was rewritten.
To be fair, OP is one of those few popular series about which newcomers will often hear "wait 'till X and then form an opinion" or "it might be boring at the start, but once X happens…", when X (for OP) is usually Arlong Park (68 chapters in). So it's not like there was nothing in these editors' intuitions. I don't know when did it become a hit in Japan though.
That's literally what I say to people every time I recommend OP to them, Arlong Park ark, "quit after this ark if you don't like it".
I'm not sure if I should be asking this here ou if this had already been discussed, but I read somewhere that Oda first thought of Katakuri being logia, but now he's changed his mind to "Special Paramecia", during some of his interviews or something. It's that true? While I agree that mochi isn't a nature element, this is the only thing about his DF that keeps him off from logia. Sorry if I'm posting on the wrong place
Oda hasn't said anything about the classification for 'mochi mochi no mi' yet, not that I know of. We might see something in SBS later.
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I don't remember that coming from an interview. We literally saw the classification change across the weekly and volume releases, where Jimbei's quote was rewritten.
So Jimbei's quote was rewritten, didn't know that, thanks.
Got my "ONE PIECE The 25th Log" 1 hour ago.:wub: Here is my translation for Oda's comment about the finale scene in Drum Island arc.
[Brief summary] When Oda started Drum Island arc, he didn't have any idea of the finale scene about Drum Rock looking like a big cherry blossom tree.
[Full translation]
Question: "What characters in ONE PIECE had more highlight scenes than you imagined?"
Oda: One day, I read a book and found a photo about Drum Rock. If I remember correctly, Drum Rock is located in Canada. The rock looked cool, so I drew an island called Drum Island with a mountain called Drum Rocky. Thus, so-called Chopper arc started. Chopper arc started without specifying the detailed design of Chopper. I keep in mind that I should draw what I want to draw in those situations, like "Snow is beautiful", "I've created a midriff-baring old female character!".
Anyway, when I had trouble deciding how I should wrap up Drum Island arc, I found a book about environmental pollution. According to the book, yellow snow falls in some cities due to dust from factories. I thought, "Oh, snow can be colored in some cases. If pink snow fell on Drum Rocky, it would look like a real cherry blossom tree. Wait… Dr. Kureha wears a cherry blossom T-shirt. Wait... The shape of Chopper's hoof is similar to cherry blossoms. Wait... Does it mean I can wrap up Drum Island arc thanks to cherry blossoms??"
In short, the finale scene of Drum Island arc was created just by luck. That "mountain" had greater highlight scene than I expected. It was so lucky that I drew the mountain in that specific shape. Manga serialization is a wonderland!! Eiichiro Oda
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The more I hear about last minute decisions in BW saga, the more I start wondering what the the hell even was planned at the beginning. Like, was Robin even going to be a crew member? Usopp's and Chooper's designs changed greatly since the original rough idea of SHs, but she's the first one to join which wasn't part of th prototype cast. Which is quite weird, given she's the one with the biggest connection to th lore.
These keep shattering fans' delusions of Oda, lol. On a more serious note, in all honesty, I like knowing that events that weren't planned well in advance are not few at all, it explains how what was supposed to be a five years long manga of pirates became what it is now. I actually feel bad about knowing that Oda nowadays restrains himself from including whatever comes to his mind to avoid elongating the series even more.