It is time for Howard The Duck.
I could legitimately see him being the next M.O.D.O.K. And that would be freaking glorious.
It is time for Howard The Duck.
I could legitimately see him being the next M.O.D.O.K. And that would be freaking glorious.
I hope they dont make the marvel characters look exactly like their movie counterparts, at least not all of them.
But I hope they go with the current looks used in the comics.
The real question is, what Capcom game is relevant nowadays.
I hope they dont make the marvel characters look exactly like their movie counterparts, at least not all of them.
Eh, I doubt it. At least in terms of characters who have looks as iconic as Spider-Man. Rocket Raccoon, Captain America, and Hawkeye might look more akin to their MCU versions (especially since they look that way in the comics now). But guys like Spidey and Thor will probably stay intact.
Most capcom games aren't relevant, lol. But it has the marvel name on it, so it will attract a bigger audience.
As discussed before, monster hunter and the newer resident evil and street fighter. There was an ace attorney this year as well.
Wikipedia list of capcom games is currently even a greater mess than before.
Crossover games is the only place Darkstalkers characters can find jobs lol.
Crossover games is the only place Darkstalkers characters can find jobs lol.
And Megaman lately.
Here's a compilation of all the relevant rumors and info regarding the MvC4 situation the past few days:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=225780228&postcount=4982
A UMvC3 remaster by Iron Galaxy might be in the cards as well.
I'm not paying for a game without the X-Men.
I'm playing some of their mobile games, but I'm not paying, I didn't buy the second lego game because of it, I'm not buying this either.
X-Men are my favorite Marvel characters and Doom is my favorite anti-villain/villain, both of them being gone because the Evil Mouse interference makes me not want to buy them.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the no X-Men part, tbh. Seems the most suspect to me
I wouldn't put too much stock in the no X-Men part, tbh. Seems the most suspect to me
No new Marvel game since Contest of Champions has had X-Men or Fantastic Four-related characters. MvC wouldn't be an exception.
I'm not paying for a game without the X-Men.
I'm playing some of their mobile games, but I'm not paying, I didn't buy the second lego game because of it, I'm not buying this either.
X-Men are my favorite Marvel characters and Doom is my favorite anti-villain/villain, both of them being gone because the Evil Mouse interference makes me not want to buy them.
Rumor has it that it's Marvel Entertainment CEO Ike Perlmutter that's responsible, and that it isn't specifically a Disney mandate. Perlmutter is infamous for supposedly always playing hardball, and for being petty and vindictive.
Yes, it's all Ike Perlmutter. Disney doesn't give a shit.
damn I loved using Wolverine and Storm…
Yes, it's all Ike Perlmutter. Disney doesn't give a shit.
The cartoons air on Disney, and a former comics editor who is now responsible for the cartoons, and got the X-Men and FF out of there using the excuse that he doesn't like them(he actually says he hates the X-Men), even though they were using them before the games ban.
Disney developed some games like Avengers Alliance and then the characters stopped appearing in their games, not sure if it's all Perlmutter fault, but yeah he is the main reason.
Basically since late 2014/early 2015 they decided they were going to ban them from everywhere but comics.
When the last FF movie was coming out Marvel even sent an email to various artists telling them they weren't allowed to make any art/covers of the team and the email was leaked online. It seems like Fox rushing the FF movie just so they wouldn't lose the rights annoyed someone(probably Perlmutter) and all this crap is happening since then.
I guess all of these people in various divisions are all probably answering to Perlmutter, but still not sure its all just him.
I've seen that video, why make an uninformed video and giving CoC as an example, when this ban came after that…people don't even try to research, a lot of people on comics forums/reddit have threads talking about the bans all documented...
Contest of Champions was the last game with the X-Men in, the Fantastic Four were apparently already banned by that point, that is why we don't have Doom, and others there even though the game happens in Battleworld(google it).
Since then Marvel Future Fight, Marvel Lego 2, Marvel Avengers Academy, Marvel Mighty Heroes, Spider-Man Unlimited(he had the FF suit which was removed when Marvel noticed), Marvel Tsum Tsum, Marvel Avengers Alliance 2, Marvel Pinball for consoles(console version removed the X-Men tables), have all removed characters from both franchises.
Marvel Avengers Alliance 1, Pinball and a few others also stopped adding new content involving those teams.
If the X-Men are in this game, it's because of a change of heart from Marvel(Perlmutter, the mouse, whoever) and they will also be added to other games.
Here is a timeline of Marvel's fuckery that I helped work on. Sadly it hasn't been updated since June 2015.
Feige was just asked last week or two weeks ago if the X-Men and FF would ever be in the MCU, if they could work out a deal like with Spider-man and Sony. He said it's impossible and they have plenty of characters to do movies about already.
And Megaman lately.
Outside of the occasional reunion tour.
I didn't buy the second lego game because of it.
To be fair it was called Lego Avengers not Lego Marvel Superheroes 2. They weren't going to be in the game as it was.
Here is a timeline of Marvel's fuckery that I helped work on. Sadly it hasn't been updated since June 2015.
People shat bricks over Logan getting his memories back?
To be fair it was called Lego Avengers not Lego Marvel Superheroes 2. They weren't going to be in the game as it was.
Storm, Wolverine, Beast, Sunspot, Cannonball, the whole Fantastic Four and many more are all Avengers.
The game had plenty of non Avengers characters, it had the New Warriors, Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy and many others teams most of which aren't Avengers, freaking absolute Z listers got into the game.
Read the list of characters there.
Storm, Wolverine, Beast, Sunspot, Cannonball, the whole Fantastic Four and many more are all Avengers.
I know that.
The game had plenty of non Avengers characters, it had the New Warriors, Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy and many others teams most of which aren't Avengers, freaking absolute Z listers got into the game.
I'm assuming those guys also aren't entangled in a hot mess either.
Would it be too much to hope for to get Loki?
Would it be too much to hope for to get Loki?
I think it's in the realm of possibility.
Storm, Wolverine, Beast, Sunspot, Cannonball, the whole Fantastic Four and many more are all Avengers.
The game had plenty of non Avengers characters, it had the New Warriors, Thunderbolts, Guardians of the Galaxy and many others teams most of which aren't Avengers, freaking absolute Z listers got into the game.
Read the list of characters there.
I think you're thinking of LEGO Marvel Superheroes, and not LEGO Avengers. LEGO Avengers was going for a more 'MCU Lego world', while LEGO MSH was legit EVERY MARVEL ENTTIY. The game had every Fantastic Four member, Doom, Deadpool, Storm, Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Iceman, Gambit, even Polaris. Crap, I've never played a Marvel or X-Men video game that had freaking Polaris.
Would it be too much to hope for to get Loki?
I say he has a pretty good chance, if they are going for MCU characters, Loki became super popular after the movies, he is one of the most popular characters in the MCU(where popularity is based on looks) and is also pretty popular in the comics(I like him a lot), he has also been feature in all the recent games, so I think you can be optimistic about him being playable.
I think you're thinking of LEGO Marvel Superheroes, and not LEGO Avengers. LEGO Avengers was going for a more 'MCU Lego world', while LEGO MSH was legit EVERY MARVEL ENTTIY. The game had every Fantastic Four member, Doom, Deadpool, Storm, Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Iceman, Gambit, even Polaris. Crap, I've never played a Marvel or X-Men video game that had freaking Polaris.
Yes I'm talking about Lego Avengers, I know Marvel Superheroes had the X-Men/FF because the ban wasn't in effect back then. It is using the MCU movies, but then it has a bunch of side characters that aren't in the movies at all, Z Listers shouldn't get priority in relation to the X-Men or FF unless they are banned, why wouldn't Lego want to have them ingame?(or anyone else as a matter of fact), like I said above read the list I posted in the wikia page to see the characters that are in game.
The game you are talking about came out in 2013, this ban started last year.
Would it be too much to hope for to get Loki?
Too much to hope for? I would be shocked if he WASN'T in the game considering how he's now the most popular Marvel villain besides Doom and Magn-Oh wait. And I would love for somebody to suggest that a moveset based around his magic, tricky, and illusions is too difficult to capture in a character considering some of the characters we've already had (including TWO Strange villains before the Doc even showed up lol).
I think it's in the realm of possibility.
I think you're thinking of LEGO Marvel Superheroes, and not LEGO Avengers. LEGO Avengers was going for a more 'MCU Lego world', while LEGO MSH was legit EVERY MARVEL ENTTIY. The game had every Fantastic Four member, Doom, Deadpool, Storm, Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Iceman, Gambit, even Polaris. Crap, I've never played a Marvel or X-Men video game that had freaking Polaris.
I understand the distinction you're going for, but Getsuga's completely right. Freaking Fin Fang Foom and whoever the hell X-Ray is got in before any of the X-Men or Fantastic Four members who have served as Avengers.
So… How does everyone feel about the reports of Marvel vs. Capcom 4 being a reboot that's 2v2 with one support character instead of 3v3? I... honestly don't mind that too much.
Loki with a counter/after image/illusion game play would be great. Another character I think is going to be in the game is Captain Marvel, although I think she is kinda boring power wise.
@Count:
So… How does everyone feel about the reports of Marvel vs. Capcom 4 being a reboot that's 2v2 with one support character instead of 3v3? I… honestly don't mind that too much.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
@Count:
So… How does everyone feel about the reports of Marvel vs. Capcom 4 being a reboot that's 2v2 with one support character instead of 3v3? I... honestly don't mind that too much.
Meh, I am ok with this, surely is a new way and it wont feel like a total copy of the prequel.
Also, I liked the supports in MVC 1.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
To be fair, that was the gameplay style for the first Marvel vs Capcom. So it's not too unprecedented.
I'm going to have to try out all new characters now. My main lineup is mostly gone lol. Wolverine and Deadpool. No idea if Dante is sticking around.
^Well if DMC5 rumors are true Dante should still be around
Loki with a counter/after image/illusion game play would be great. Another character I think is going to be in the game is Captain Marvel, although I think she is kinda boring power wise.
Agreed. Loki would be fun to play and I can definitely see him being a favorite in competitive play (and a really cheap support character lol).
I disagree about Carol though. She's basically the closest thing to Superman when it comes to Marvel's A-listers (so don't bring up guys like Hyperion, Sentry, or Blue Marvel lol). A combination of flight, super-speed, super-strength, and energy projection can work wonders.
I would be more concerned about how to vary move-sets between Hulk, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones (which makes me think that only one of the latter two will get in. Meaning that it'll probably be Luke for a Heroes-for-Hire team-up with Iron Fist. But I would love to be surprised).
I'm going to have to try out all new characters now. My main lineup is mostly gone lol. Wolverine and Deadpool. No idea if Dante is sticking around.
There are rumors that Devil May Cry 5 might be revealed at PlayStation Experience. But regardless, I expect Dante to stay. He got into Project X Zone 2 (the crossover between Capcom, SEGA, and Namco) in 2015 even though the reboot came out in 2013.
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Anyways, here is my character list for who I think has over a 90% chance of appearing on the Marvel side of the reboot if there are no X-Men and Fantastic Four characters. Not that I expect there to be this many right off the bat before DLC lol.
! 1. Spider-Man
2. Iron Man
3. Thor
4. Captain America
5. Hulk
6. Hawkeye
7. Black Widow
8. Doctor Strange
9. Black Panther
10. Captain Marvel
11. Star-Lord
12. Groot
13. Rocket Raccoon
14. Daredevil
15. Iron Fist
16. Luke Cage
17. Ghost Rider
18. Dormammu
19. Winter Soldier
20. Loki
21. Ultron
22. Thanos
! I also expect one or two Spider-Man villains to get confirmed as well. MAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYBE M.O.D.O.K. and She-Hulk. But I doubt it. Curveballs like Ms. Marvel and Howard the Duck are possibilities. Same goes for the Inhumans. And I REALLY want the Punisher to be in, but I don't know. He would mesh right in with the Resident Evil folks, but something makes me doubtful.
I'm pulling for a Punisher reveal. And if Capcom knows what's good for them, one of the first characters they'll show off will be X.
I will cry a lot if it will be announced… I was afraid we will never see such game again after Capcom lost the rights.
X-Men are rumored to not be in it... Sad but give me Black Panther instead
Since we are making lists now, here is my Capcom list.
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1. Ryu
2. Chun Li
3. Akuma
4. Bison
5. Alex
6. Megaman
7. Zero
8. Samanosuke
9. Morrigan Aensland
10. Donovan Bane
11. Albert Wesker
12. Chris Redfield
13. Jill Valentine
14. Dante
15. Vergil
16. Date Masamune
17. Nobunaga Oda
18. Phoenix Wright
19. Maya Fey
20. Sir Arthur
21. Gene :ninja:
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i vote to eject chris, jill, and wesker into the sun and replace them with Leon, Claire, and Ada
I liked watching it, even though I never understood what the actuall hell is going on in mvc3. 2v2? Sure, if it will make it a little less chaotic.^^
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i vote to eject chris, jill, and wesker into the sun and replace them with Leon, Claire, and Ada
Ada and Leon? Hell yeah, throw Chris out, but not Jill, cause Jill > Claire. :ninja:
i vote to eject chris, jill, and wesker into the sun and replace them with Leon, Claire, and Ada
Nooo I like Wesker lol.
Since we're apparently doing lists, here would be mine:
! Marvel List:
! Returning
Iron Man
Captain America
Spider-man
Deadpool
Black Panther
She-Hulk
Hulk
Dr. Strange
Hawkeye
Shuma Gorath
! New:
Black Panther
Groot
Star Lord
Gamora
Ant Man
Captain Marvel
Falcon
! Fox-Owned:
Wolverine
Magneto
Dr. Doom
! Capcom List:
Mega Man
Ryu
Chun-Li
Poison
Akuma
Dante
Morrigan
Jill Valentine
Tron Bonne
Phoenix Wright
! New:
Mega Man X
Leon S. Kennedy
! Also, I don't know how realistic this is, but considering Disney owns Marvel now… so Disney is involved.... I'd REALLY like to see them somehow implement Scrooge McDuck as a Capcom rep.... The Moon could be his stage... Wouldn't that be great?! They'd have to dip into the TV series to probably come up with some of his
I really would like to see Lord Raptor and John Talbain in 3D action.
i vote to eject chris, jill, and wesker into the sun and replace them with Leon, Claire, and Ada
I agree with Baroness. Wesker must be preserved. But I'll take Leon over any other Resident Evil protagonist any day.
Since we're apparently doing lists, here would be mine:
! Marvel List:
! Returning
Iron Man
Captain America
Spider-man
Deadpool
Black Panther
She-Hulk
Hulk
Dr. Strange
Hawkeye
Shuma Gorath
! New:
Black Panther
Groot
Star Lord
Gamora
Ant Man
Captain Marvel
Falcon
! Fox-Owned:
Wolverine
Magneto
Dr. Doom
! Capcom List:
Mega Man
Ryu
Chun-Li
Poison
Akuma
Dante
Morrigan
Jill Valentine
Tron Bonne
Phoenix Wright
! New:
Mega Man X
Leon S. Kennedy
! Also, I don't know how realistic this is, but considering Disney owns Marvel now… so Disney is involved.... I'd REALLY like to see them somehow implement Scrooge McDuck as a Capcom rep.... The Moon could be his stage... Wouldn't that be great?! They'd have to dip into the TV series to probably come up with some of his
Your suggestion for Scrooge made me think of how exhillarating it would be for Darkwing Duck to be playable. Drake and Howard. The Dastardly Duck Duo.
Also, you put T'Challa as a returning character lol.
Oh, we're doing lists now?
Marvel:
Spider-Man: Spider-Man, Doctor Octopus
Iron Man: Iron Man
Captain America: Cap, Bucky (Winter Soldier)
Hulk: Hulk, She-Hulk
Thor: Thor, Loki
GoG: Groot, Rocket Raccoon.
TV: Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist
Dr. Strange: Dr. Strange, Shuma-Gorath (Capcom loves this guy)
Other: Black Widow, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Ms. Marvel (either Carol or Kamala would be fine), Black Panther
Capcom:
Street Fighter: Ryu, Chun-Li, Juri Han, SFV rep (Rashid or F.E.N.G, if Capcom feels trollish enough).
Megaman: Megaman (or X), Zero, Tron Bonne (Capcom doesn't get enough of her).
Resident Evil: Chris Redfield (or Leon S. Kennedy if Capcom wants to shake things up), Jill Valentine, Albert Wesker
DMC: Dante, Vergil
Darkstalkers: Morrigan, Felicia, Lord Raptor
Other: Amaterasu, Viewtiful Joe, Asura, Frank West, Batsu Ichimonji (Rival Schools), Felyne (Monster Hunter).
Oh, we're doing lists now?
Marvel:
Spider-Man: Doctor Octopus
That is some mighty fine taste, good sir. Wasn't he scrapped from Marvel vs. Capcom 3? Animating his hit boxes would be a bit messy.
Another good candidate for a spiderman villain would be Green Goblin, if they can make ghost rider, they can make old man osborn.
About the possibility of supports, I wonder if they are going with MVC 1 standards and add a number of non-playable characters to be used as supports or that we have to choose one support from the playable roster.
How about this guy?
Another good candidate for a spiderman villain would be Green Goblin, if they can make ghost rider, they can make old man osborn.
About the possibility of supports, I wonder if they are going with MVC 1 standards and add a number of non-playable characters to be used as supports or that we have to choose one support from the playable roster.
I would take Otto or Osborn over Venom every single time. Not that I would mind Venom at all relatively.
I can only picture Ant-Man working as a support-exclusive character.
How about this guy?
[qimg]https://www.expertcomics.com/images/enr-archives/uploads/2014/01/herc-beard.jpg[/qimg]
Herc is too good for this franchise.
@Count:
I would take Otto or Osborn over Venom every single time. Not that I would mind Venom at all relatively.
I can only picture Ant-Man working as a support-exclusive character.
If the Green Goblin got in, it would be interesting to see how they would work Osborn's glider (it wouldn't feel right if he didn't have it). I remember reading that the Silver Surfer got scrapped in MvC3 due to a similar issue with his surfboard.
Anyway. I feel like Doc Ock is more natural to this type of game. They already can make an octopus monster work, so I don't see the issue with the doctor.
If the Green Goblin got in, it would be interesting to see how they would work Osborn's glider (it wouldn't feel right if he didn't have it). I remember reading that the Silver Surfer got scrapped in MvC3 due to a similar issue with his surfboard.
Anyway. I feel like Doc Ock is more natural to this type of game. They already can make an octopus monster work, so I don't see the issue with the doctor.
I heard about that as well. I think that they should just pull a Bowser Jr. and have Gobby always riding his glider. MODOK always moves in a propelled chair, so that's a start. Normie Boy can work where Radd couldn't due to the glider being much less lengthy than the board and within Osborn's body shape.
I want to agree with you on the Shuma-Gorath comparison, but I don't know. The thing about the latter is that his arms are much shorter and either move in rhythm or make similar actions as regular limb attacks. Doc Ock's tentacles, both in length and individual movement, are a lot more crazy and all over the place. So I'm still doubtful, especially if they had enough trouble with Silver Surfer's board. I think Otto might be able to work if they designate the lower to tentacles to always holding him up with his actual feet almost never touching the ground. Leaving the upper two tentacles being used for most of the attacks (and all four work together offensively in midair).
Nobody posted it yet?
It's real, even if that website isn't. lol
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I know about a pretty obscure character on the Capcom side coming back – someone who would seem really out of place in a "smaller roster." I'm not saying we're getting 50+ characters, but I'd be shocked to see this specific character in a roster of 24 (like some are saying)
If I remember correctly, in MVC3 they said that they were not going to make Ghost Rider because his motorcycle would be a pain in the ass, but in the end, they ended making him.
I say, just make Norman use his glider in one of his specials, the rest can be him using his pumpkin bombs.