One Piece: Character Nationalities
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Why do you say that?
Just the general style and feel of the character. He feels very much like some of the more controversial military and political leaders of US.
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Nah, the way I see it, Akainu is a fusion of all the bad guys from Hawaii 5-0.
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Shit never even thought about him like that but it makes sense
And who doesn't like a little Hawaii five 0
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Just the general style and feel of the character. He feels very much like some of the more controversial military and political leaders of US.
Interesting. Like those same figures, I wonder if Akainu is adored by much of the population.
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Interesting. Like those same figures, I wonder if Akainu is adored by much of the population.
I would assume so. He did nothing that couldn't be fixed by some old good propaganda.
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If you go by the name, Dagama would be portuguese. Also as the explorer he portraits a hispanic-esque moustache. The mottled cloak and its colour scheme. Even the glasses, you can arque they are inspired on a certain author of the spanish rennaisence, they are called Quevedos ( the glasses) for this reason. But the biggest single tell out is the necklace really.
Just saying that, it makes sense that if this Arc is based on the Iberian peninsula/mediterranean sandwich most likely quite a lot of the characters involved too.Ditto, at Chinjao being chinese, and Sabo being brittish.
Akainu and Arlong are japanese or atleast islanders. Reason? What Ramistar said.
King Elizabello the 2nd, Spanish, by the name alone. A pun to the queen Isabel II of Spain. Oh well nevermind, he might aswell be british.Edit: I'm on a writing spree haha, the former king of dressrosa is Spanish too. I mean have you took a look at that gladiator helmet? Dethroned king you say? This one is a clear one too!
About trafalgar law being from gibraltar, why not? The hoodie, resemblance of street culture, the bad taste dressing.
Independent and with is own agenda, and oh a pirate. Do we have a british here?Doffy could very well be French, if you go by historical references. It fits. A bit farfetched tho. Also we know sanji is french, and they have a certain air to them, chauvinist, chaotic and careless, but not necessarily evil. Just french.
Oh, alright. Appareantly he is based on a famous french singer.Rayleigh is Aristoteles, so greek. But i found this info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Silver A greek/british swordmaster.
Still, i think zoro is portuguese. If only for the bandana and his rivality with mihawk.
Also portugueses were among the firsts to land in japan, and they literally slaughtered samurais in numerous duels. They would challenge them as to proof who were the better warriors. Not even losing once, there are historical references for this. I wonder if Oda knows about all of this. Japanese? Sure. But if any character is inspired in a country other than Whitebeard it has to be zoro roronoa. Maybe a Macau pirate?Boa hancock, typical bratty chinese daddy's girl. Have you ever dealt with an HK girl? They know what they want and how to take it. They are all like this. I think she is a chinese suffering from Kpop syndrome.
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I'm starting to think the dark mottled theme in some character pants and attire could be a reference to them being british, because⊠why not. Also, thats a big ass solo-handled knight sword (excalibur?) if you ask me. Oh, i see it clearly now. Rayleigh is a reference to Merlin. Afterall who instructed Luffy so he can become the next KING of the pirates? Archetypical Gandalf'ish mage/senpai/tutor character.
You know what.... i give up
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Nah, the way I see it, Akainu is a fusion of all the bad guys from Hawaii 5-0.
I can see Akainu retiring to HawaiiâŠ
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Doffy and his Crew have multiple references to the Spanish language and culture, and his lifestyle resembles that of a latin-american high profile drug/crime lord. There is really nothing "french" about his charactarisation, at all.
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Doffy and his Crew have multiple references to the Spanish language and culture, and his lifestyle resembles that of a latin-american high profile drug/crime lord. There is really nothing "french" about his charactarisation, at all.
He's based on a French singer.
Also, card suits are a French invention.
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Yeah but Oda didn't use french for their names i.e trĂšfle, coeur, carreau, pique. LoL I'm glad he didn't.
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He's based on a French singer.
Also, card suits are a French invention.
The french singer is just the basic inspiriation his design. just like Sanjis design is based on an american Movie (Reservoir Dogs) yet we know that sanji is supposed to be french.
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Still, i think zoro is portuguese. If only for the bandana and his rivality with mihawk.
Also portugueses were among the firsts to land in japan, and they literally slaughtered samurais in numerous duels. They would challenge them as to proof who were the better warriors. Not even losing once, there are historical references for this. I wonder if Oda knows about all of this. Japanese? Sure. But if any character is inspired in a country other than Whitebeard it has to be zoro roronoa. Maybe a Macau pirate?Zoro is clearly Japanese, from his following of Bushido, his favorite food (rice) and his post-timeskip attire.
And Oda stating so.
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Doflamingo is a tough one. The Spanish link is obvious, but he certainly bears no resemblance to his namesake: http://www.stanprokopenko.com/blog/images/DonQuixote/Don-Quixote-Step-3.jpg
Even though he's based off of a real French guy, I don't think that guy looks typically French either (nor does Sanji, in my opinion). His extravagant outfits, castle, and weapons all call to mind South American drug cartel kingpins, while his physical traits seem German/English to me.
It's a shame that most humans are so unrealistically tall in OP, since I feel like height could make a lot of guesses easier here as well.
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so is this the thread to talk about race in one piece or did I piss off people already
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Just my personal opinion based on pure intuition aswell as what the names tells us:
Donquixote doflamingo, the novel of Miguel de Cervantes. He wears matador pants, and what seems like some sort of shoes<fit-able for="" dancing.="" any="" more="" topics?="" this="" one,="" we="" can="" easily="" label="" him="" as="" spanish,="" no="" reason="" to="" think="" otherwise-="">SPANISH.
Mihawk, this one strikes to me as spanish too. Look at those eyes, the ressemblance of the conquistador dressing style, and the religious zeal (christian cross shaped daga and sword). If you take a look at the Solo Loewe fragance male model you will know what im talking about.
You could argue he is italian, maybe because the shape of the face, quite angular and strong jaw bones. Again, as an stereotype it makes perfect sense for me that he is spanish, or an italian freelancer duelist (alatriste style). I'll go with spanish as it doesnt exhibit any of the traits a stereotypical italian would other than the looks, that either way goes for a spaniard too. I would place them more in the pirate side, considering the power Spain hold at time and he is siding with the world government -> SPANISHVista, this one looks italian to me. A satire or twist of Wario, the wiry hair, the double swords, the romantic demeanor.. it just fits-> ITALIAN
Kizaru Borsalino, he uses Fedora (Borsalino), and dress like a SF gangster. This one has to be deffinitely italian too, the name fits better than any other character, and the demeanor too.. very sicilian/turkish if you know what i mean. -> ITALIAN (i would go for turkish but the gangster feel is just too strong)
Aoikiji, i dont know how people came to the conclusion that he is australian. But it fits for me, he even portraits aboriginal looks. His mannerism also fits as how i see australian people to be ->AUSTRALIAN
Roronoa zoro, okay this one is japanese. But doesnt everyone else thinks he is the quintessential portuguese. By the name, also portuguese, THEY were regardest as the best duelists of the world too. And portugal has always being the eternal second, first to Spain then as a handly ally to britain. Mercenary, still holds that noble feel and pride about them that hispanic people has. Sturdy, stubborn.->PORTUGUESE
Law, German seems about right. He is a photocopy of Mistery the pick up artist, who is dutch. The dark tones of his personality and outfit goes well with this idea. Cool, calm and collected.->GERMAN
Burguess, this one has to be mexican. Fits the luchadore stereotype perfectly. -> MEXICAN
Marco the phoenix, swedish. By looks and careless demeanor. Also distant and introverted. He remembers me to Alex gustaffson the UFC fighter. ->SWEDISH
Whitebeard, american. There is no doubt about this one.
Blackbeard, turk. It feels so well as an antagonist of the power of the world government, if you consider the ottoman/holy league war.
By looks as well as personality, it fits my idea of a turk. ->TURKCrocodile, this one could be perfectly italian. Someone said he is albanian. I like this idea too, for various reasons. But i will go with italian,
for the well thought looks, hairstyle and prideful demeanor and the dark triad personality. -> ITALIANALL in all:
Aokiji - Australian
Zoro - Portuguese
Law - German
Mihawk and Dofla - Spanish
Borsalino and Vista - Italian
Burguess - Mexican
WB - American
BB - Turk
Cocodrile - Italian (but he could be pretty much from any balcan country)As to the rest of the crew they fit my stereotype, specially Chopper and Franky.
Oh, and sorry for the shitty english</fit-able>
Ok so what part of the Balkans are we from hmm? lol
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@Lao:
and Bartolomeo looks American to me, but the name is not American, so I'll go with Italian.
So do you have no idea what AmericansâŠare? Or what. Because there is no such thing as an "American name". Ethnic Americans don't exist.
We just have whatever names and last names we brought over with us from wherever(s) the heck we come from.
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@Monkey:
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So do you have no idea what Americans...are? Or what. Because there is no such thing as an "American name". Ethnic Americans don't exist.
We just have whatever names and last names we brought over with us from wherever(s) the heck we come from.
Yes, even Russian names.I should have elaborated, that it' s not a name I would think of, when America is mentioned. I'm pretty sure, that out of 30000000 + people living there you can find at least one Barto, but it's about the nature of the name, not whether you can find it in the US.
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@Lao:
I should have elaborated, that it' s not a name I would think of, when America is mentioned. I'm pretty sure, that out of 30000000 + people living there you can find at least one Barto, but it's about the nature of the name, not whether you can find it in the US.
Yes, I'm well aware of that.Do you associate "Luffy" with Brazil or "Nami" with Sweden?
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Hmm, all this ethnicity talk made me remember vice admiral Dalmatian. That's the name of the region I live in. The dog got his name after it.
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@Lao:
I should have elaborated, that it' s not a name I would think of, when America is mentioned. I'm pretty sure, that out of 30000000 + people living there you can find at least one Barto, but it's about the nature of the name, not whether you can find it in the US.
Yes, I'm well aware of that.I'd say like 5/10 of storefronts, signs, and people where I am are Italian names.
That or Polish and Irish.
I really dunno what a stereotypical American last name is supposed to be. English?
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@Monkey:
I'd say like 5/10 of storefronts, signs, and people where I am are Italian names.
That or Polish and Irish.5/10 here are Spanish
@Monkey:
I really dunno what a stereotypical American last name is supposed to be. English?
Like Smith? Roberts? McBurgersurfboard?Where I'm from it would be Garcia, Rodriguez, Nguyen, Lee, Smith, JohnsonâŠ
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5/10 here are Spanish
Where I'm from it would be Garcia, Rodriguez, Nguyen, Lee, Smith, JohnsonâŠ
Should I get a car from Dragone's or Cortagiano's. Maybe Napoli's?
Or the law offices of Gesmonde, Pietrosimone, and Sgrignari?â- Update From New Post Merge ---
Places you can see fully bearded and robed Greek Orthodox priests walking around.
-Greece
-Cyprus
-Main street of my suburban town the other day lolThis image of the US as Leave it to Beaver land has got to die!
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@Monkey:
Ok so what part of the Balkans are we from hmm? lol
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So do you have no idea what Americans...are? Or what. Because there is no such thing as an "American name". Ethnic Americans don't exist.
I wasnt aware that you guys had actually completed that genocide you kinda left hanging in air for a few hundred years. Who knew Obama had such a chip on his shoulder when it came to Native Americans? Im sure ol' Custer would be very proud! But what happens with all the Casinos now?
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I wasnt aware that you guys had actually completed that genocide you kinda left hanging in air for a few hundred years.
This is a nice attempt to make me look insensitive and all, but American Indians are not one ethnic group by any stretch of the imagination.
We're not from a country called "Finland" connected to and centered around an exact ethnic group called "Finns".
There is such things as Finnish names and last names.
Not so US.
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@Monkey:
This is a nice attempt to make me look insensitive and all, but American Indians are not one ethnic group by any stretch of the imagination.
We're not from a country called "Finland" connected to and centered around an exact ethnic group called "Finns".
There is such things as Finnish names and last names.
Not so US.
But yeah sure, Pueblo and Iroquois are like totally the same people.I was just making a joke, altough i think you could argue that since America is a continent, each separate native ethnic group can be considered ethnic americans in their own right. Just like Finns, Swedes, Italians and Greeks are all ethnic europeans.
Would you argue with the same logic that there are no ethnic Germans? Because its all a mixture of Goth, Scandinavian, Vandal and Lombard Ancestry and the many Germanic states were only united under prussian rule to become the Germany we know today as recently as late 19th century. -
I was just making a joke, altough i think you could argue that since America is a continent, each separate native ethnic group can be considered ethnic americans in their own right. Just like Finns, Swedes, Italians and Greeks are all ethnic europeans.
America the continent =/= America the United States Of
Would you argue with the same logic that there are no ethnic Germans?
No because that would be ludicrous.
Because its all a mixture of Goth, Scandinavian, Vandal and Lombard Ancestry
Saxon, Thuringian, Frankish, Bavarian, Swabian, Frisian, and Wendish Slavs. Farther back we get Celts, farther back various pre-Indo European shite.
If we're talking Germany the country anyway. (Goths, Vandals, and Lombards all got assimilated by non-Germanic cultures, that entire branch of East Germanic language/culture simply died the heck out every single place over time)
But ancestry has very little to do with ethnicity, if anything. Ethnicity is culture first and foremost.All those groups I listed coalesced into the modern German ethnic group. There's nary a modern ethnicity this is not the case with.
Even the much trumped up homogenous Japanese are a product of Jomon and Yayoi cultures mixing.and the many Germanic states were only united under prussian rule to become the Germany we know today as recently as late 19th century.
But they were virtually without exception all the same ethnic group even by that point. Including some Germans who got left OUT of Germany, namely a little place called Austria. Purely by being Prussia's political rival. Someone was gonna rule a big state for the German people, and someone was gonna lose out. Prussia won, Austria lost.
That's not to say regional differences don't still exist namely Bavarians. But I doubt most Germans would consider Bavarians to be a separate ethnicity, just a sub-group of Germans. Frisians however still exist as a separate group (in the Netherlands as well). And the last remaining native Slavs in eastern Germany, the Sorbs, still exist.America meanwhile is� Too tossed and post-modern a salad to apply the concepts of ethnicity to. Natives aside, African Americans (distinct from African immigrants) and maybe Southern whites come closest to what I'd consider ethnic groups. But even that is eh.
Main point is, there is no American ethnic group. Never has been, and likely never will be.
One can identify a German name. Klaus, Wolfgang, Adolf, Heinrich, Greta, Hilda, Heidi, etc.
But lo and behold, a glance through American names and surnames reveals the names of countless ethnic groups.
I can go through my high school yearbooks and jot off a collection of Spanish, Italian, English, French, Polish, Greek, Ashkenazi Jewish, Russian, Arab, Serbian, Vietnamese, Albanian, Bosniak etc etc surnames.
And before you attempt some explanation on English names and surnames being American at heart. Germans, Scots, French and Dutch folks were running around the 13 colonies at the same time as the glut of English we usually get most associated with. And that was just the early years. -
@Monkey:
America the continent =/= America the United States Of
No because that would be ludicrous.
Saxon, Thuringian, Frankish, Bavarian, Swabian, Frisian, and Wendish Slavs. Farther back we get Celts, farther back various pre-Indo European shite.
If we're talking Germany the country anyway. (Goths, Vandals, and Lombards all got assimilated by non-Germanic cultures, that entire branch of East Germanic language/culture simply died the heck out every single place over time)
But ancestry has very little to do with ethnicity, if anything. Ethnicity is culture first and foremost.All those groups I listed coalesced into the modern German ethnic group. There's nary a modern ethnicity this is not the case with.
Even the much trumped up homogenous Japanese are a product of Jomon and Yayoi cultures mixing.But they were virtually without exception all the same ethnic group even by that point. Including some Germans who got left OUT of Germany, namely a little place called Austria. Purely by being Prussia's political rival. Someone was gonna rule a big state for the German people, and someone was gonna lose out. Prussia won, Austria lost.
That's not to say regional differences don't still exist namely Bavarians. But I doubt most Germans would consider Bavarians to be a separate ethnicity, just a sub-group of Germans. Frisians however still exist as a separate group (in the Netherlands as well). And the last remaining native Slavs in eastern Germany, the Sorbs, still exist.America meanwhile is� Too tossed and post-modern a salad to apply the concepts of ethnicity to. Natives aside, African Americans (distinct from African immigrants) and maybe Southern whites come closest to what I'd consider ethnic groups. But even that is eh.
Main point is, there is no American ethnic group. Never has been, and likely never will be.
One can identify a German name. Klaus, Wolfgang, Adolf, Heinrich, Greta, Hilda, Heidi, etc.
But lo and behold, a glance through American names and surnames reveals the names of countless ethnic groups.
I can go through my high school yearbooks and jot off a collection of Spanish, Italian, English, French, Polish, Greek, Ashkenazi Jewish, Russian, Arab, Serbian, Vietnamese, Albanian, Bosniak etc etc surnames.
And before you attempt some explanation on English names and surnames being American at heart. Germans, Scots, French and Dutch folks were running around the 13 colonies at the same time as the glut of English we usually get most associated with. And that was just the early years.I dont get your point. The native americans are native to North America since pre-historic times. Being divided into different tribes and cultures does not disqualify them from being considered ethnic americans. Almost every Nation origins from a mixture of different ethnicities united through war or conquest from the outside, its nothing unique to america. Sweden has two historic ethinicities with a long history of conflict: Svear and Götar, yet both are considered to be of swedish ethinicity.
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If I can help the debate. For an european, (or rather for a french) the stereotypical american name doesn't sound spanish at all. I think this is what he meant.
For us, there are more super famous names like : Brad, Johnny, Michael, Sawyer, Bob, Bryan, Steeve, Bill and obviously Simpson XD
I might go to far, but I think we aren't associating spanish with your culture because the culture you export to Europe doesn't. Well at least when it comes to movies, the hyspanic and latino communities rarely play a good or an important role.
Not throwing any rock at you, we have the same kind of "issue" with acceptance in France. -
I didnt know Italy was a balkan country either.
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On the other hand, we know zoro is japanese because oda states so. And your reasons are very valid too. Just saying, the name is a deviation from Zorro ( he has good sword habilitys too). I have this friend called Roiloa (last name), he is portuguese. You have to talk spanish so this rings as a connection, i suppose. So thats the first thing to came to my mind when i watched OP haha :P
To be honest i would never think of Zoro being japanese other than what the official version tell us, for some reason Oda is attracted to hispanic culture, as means to give their characters a background you can associate them with. And it works, he got all of us thinking. Clever guy he is.
Thats my big speech.
Oh, and the first time i saw Sanji. I was like: Typical frenchman!!!
He is a metre (wine taster), he is weak for love (lol) and he dress like a total boss. What about the little rolled cigar that is attached to his face? If you've known a french guy that has this habit, you would know what im talking about. My female cousin had this french boyfriend, this unconcerned french guy would just start rolling his lil cigarrete in the middle of our familiar anual meeting.
He didnt talk a word of spanish, but somehow he got along with grandfathers war historys very well.
Same garcon haircut, same squinty(high?) eyes. And so on.
His demeanor captivates very well what a french guy is for him.
I tell you, if you would have met him, you would know Sanji is....... just french. Guys, Oda knows his stuff!Edit:
You guys are aware that Jose napoleon (bonaparte), dethroned the Spanish king and took its place illegitimately, losing it 4 years after right? Also known as Pepe botella, due to his alcoholism. Interesting how we've seen doflamingo likes for red wine too. He demolished a lot of churches and other historical buildings, modifying madrid landscape.
This has happened too in the series. Where does an illegitimate king live? Thats right, in a palace.
You can draw a lot of paralells as the situation with the little people in dresrossa, and the fate suffered by the faction of soldiers contrary to the regimen with Franco rulership. How these people were silenced and condemned to exile, in the best of scenarios.
Note too that the former king of Spain relegated the power from Franco, after the exile the Borbons suffered.
We can make a case and see how all the parts of the puzzle fits together, assume, maybe just maybe that Oda has his share of knowledge about Spain history.Again, sorry for shitty english, you can tell i hurt my brains trying to make a point haha
Also........this is interesting. A retail franchise in japan that sells about everything: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quijote_(store)
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If I can help the debate. For an european, (or rather for a french) the stereotypical american name doesn't sound spanish at all. I think this is what he meant.
For us, there are more super famous names like : Brad, Johnny, Michael, Sawyer, Bob, Bryan, Steeve, Bill and obviously Simpson XD
I might go to far, but I think we aren't associating spanish with your culture because the culture you export to Europe doesn't. Well at least when it comes to movies, the hyspanic and latino communities rarely play a good or an important role.
Not throwing any rock at you, we have the same kind of "issue" with acceptance in France.Is Sanji a stereotypical Frenchman name?
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Is Sanji a stereotypical Frenchman name?
Bouhou! It wasn't my point. I was just explaining what is the sereotypical american name for us in europe, to reply to this conversation.
Bartolomeo looks American to me, but the name is not American, so I'll go with Italian.
There is no such thing as an "American name". Ethnic Americans don't exist.
We just have whatever names and last names we brought over with us from wherever(s) the heck we come from.
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I dont get your point. The native americans are native to North America since pre-historic times. Being divided into different tribes and cultures does not disqualify them from being considered ethnic americans.
American continent(s) =/= the United States lol.
There is no such thing on ANY continent anyway as a single continent spanning ethnic group!
The whole thing that sparked this conversation, names and surnames, wouldn't work! They don't have the same ones either!Almost every Nation origins from a mixture of different ethnicities united through war or conquest from the outside,
its nothing unique to america.lol no. Europe doesn't have anything like what the Americas have. Not even remotely close.
You're right that it isn't just the US, but that's because it's also Canada, Argentina, Brazil etc. Australia and New Zealand can be added.The old world has modern identity crafted together from tribes being assimilated over millennia.
The New World has massive immigrant based societies based on like a couple hundred years.
Europe is sort of really painstakingly awkwardly starting to gain aspects of that, with immigrants coming in slowly and steadily. But you're like 200 years behind resembling the New World on this sort of thing at best. And the basis of our countries mostly weren't the natives, but immigrant themselves. Very much unlike Europe.Sweden has two historic ethinicities with a long history of conflict: Svear and Götar, yet both are considered to be of swedish ethinicity.
lol those don't exist anymore.
They evolved into Swedes. This is like saying modern English people are still divided into Angles and Saxons. Nope.
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If I can help the debate. For an european, (or rather for a french) the stereotypical american name doesn't sound spanish at all. I think this is what he meant.
For us, there are more super famous names like : Brad, Johnny, Michael, Sawyer, Bob, Bryan, Steeve, Bill and obviously Simpson XD
Those are just English names. Any Brits reading this are going to raise an eyebrow at this statement I assure you.
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@Monkey:
Those are just English names. Any Brits reading this are going to raise an eyebrow at this statement I assure you.
Bob's your uncle!Yohohoho! They are dumb sterotypes alright. And those are always thick-skinned.
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I didnt know Italy was a balkan country either.
Sorry your comical hate boner against Turks sounds like something a kooky Balkan nationalist would be saying.
What the hell does an Italian have against Turks lol.On the other hand, we know zoro is japanese because oda states so.
Oda wasn't saying they were literally from those countries or regions, just that they gave off that cultural vibe to him.
I mean the only reason Brooke is "from" Austria is Oda was making some lazy joke about classical music. -
Aokiji - Australian
Zoro - Portuguese
Law - German
Mihawk and Dofla - Spanish
Borsalino and Vista - Italian
Burguess - Mexican
WB - American
BB - Turk
Cocodrile - Italian (but he could be pretty much from any balcan country)As to the rest of the crew they fit my stereotype, specially Chopper and Franky.
Crocodile does seem Italian, I think Oda based many of his characters off Italians.
Lucci also seems Italian to me.
Ussop, Kaku, and the Kiwis have an Italian feel to them, and they're all drawn with long pointy noses. :happy:
Mihawk and Dofla seem Spanish, and Hancock would be Chinese for her island.
Whitebeard seems to be based on the American stereotype of the all powerful, and Shanks could be Puerto Rican.
Robin could be Egyptian, and Monet as German. I'll think about the other characters.
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@Croco~Boy:
Whitebeard seems to be based on the American stereotype of the all powerful, and Shanks could be Puerto Rican.
Shanks doesn't even remotely look or come off as Puerto Rican.
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Shanks looks like he came back from a vacation in Hawaii.
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@Monkey:
Sorry your comical hate boner against Turks sounds like something a kooky Balkan nationalist would be saying.
What the hell does an Italian have against Turks lol.
Oda wasn't saying they were literally from those countries or regions, just that they gave off that cultural vibe to him.
I mean the only reason Brooke is "from" Austria is Oda was making some lazy joke about classical music.
In this case blackbeard gives me a cultural vibe (robes, necklace) that he is Altai-turk/saka. It could be contemporary Turkey, it could be not.
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I do like topics, because i like nations, and they oftem carry some weight to them.
On the other hand creating controversy to channel anger... i won't be coherced to defend myself further, this is for entertaining.
I like conversation and tongue in cheek talk. If someone takes offence by my freedom of speech, well...its not my business!!!(No hard feelings)
You might find this list interesting, i found it in another forum:
**Real - One Piece
Edward Teach (Blackbeard) - Marshall D. Teach
Edward Teach was also called Thatch - Thatch (Who was killed by Blackbeard! InterestingâŠ)
Samuel Bellamy (Black Bellamy) - Bellamy
Anne Bonny - Jewelry Bonney
Captain William Kidd - Eustass "Captain" Kid
Sir Richard Hawkins and his son Sir John Hawkins - Basil Hawkins
Sir Francis Drake - X Drake
Sir Walter Raleigh - Silvers Rayleigh
Jean Laffite - Laffitte
Bartholomew Roberts - Bartholomew Kuma
Alvilda - AlvidaAnd then these ones are a stretch but I thought I'd stick 'em out there anyways...
Woodes Rogers - Gol D. Roger
Edward England - Edward Newgate** Credits to MasantaQ.If the list is innapropiate due to forum rules, ill take it down*
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In this case blackbeard gives me a cultural vibe (robes, necklace) that he is Altai-turk/saka. It could be contemporary Turkey, it could be not.
Altai?? So Blackbeard looks like a Mongol to you?
He looks like an incredibly stereotypical pirate. That's kind of the point of his crew and him. Oda has even referred to them as such.
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You might find this list interesting, i found it in another forum:
! Real - One Piece
Edward Teach (Blackbeard) - Marshall D. Teach
Edward Teach was also called Thatch - Thatch (Who was killed by Blackbeard! InterestingâŠ)
Samuel Bellamy (Black Bellamy) - Bellamy
Anne Bonny - Jewelry Bonney
Captain William Kidd - Eustass "Captain" Kid
Sir Richard Hawkins and his son Sir John Hawkins - Basil Hawkins
Sir Francis Drake - X Drake
Sir Walter Raleigh - Silvers Rayleigh
Jean Laffite - Laffitte
Bartholomew Roberts - Bartholomew Kuma
Alvilda - Alvida
! And then these ones are a stretch but I thought I'd stick 'em out there anyways...
Woodes Rogers - Gol D. Roger
Edward England - Edward Newgate Credits to MasantaQ.If the list is innapropiate due to forum rules, ill take it down*
That's nothing new to anyone who follows OP and has read up on real life pirates even a little.
There's also Francois L'Olonnais (Roronoa), Chinese pirate Chui Apoo (this one should be obvious), Edward Low (Law), Turkish pirate Oruc (Urouge) etc. I think most of these were confirmed.
Also, Mihawk is obviously from Romania.:ninja:
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@Monkey:
He looks like an incredibly stereotypical pirate. That's kind of the point of his crew and him. Oda has even referred to them as such.
I would like to know where Oda found stereotypical pirates that looked like Mexican wrestlers, or tap dancers.
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I'll be honest, most of you guys are overthinking this⊠Oda and most japanese knowledge of the rest of the world and the culture is limited. I've lived in japan for years and know this for a fact, and it's cool! Most countries are like this. But they prolly know more of China and Korea than most of the "westernes". What i'm trying to say Oda won't know the diffrence between nigeria or ethopia, poland and czech etc etc...
What we know are the straw hats nationality, so the folks don't have to argue that.
Luffy - Brazil
Zoro - Japanese
Name - Sweden
Usopp - Africa (yes, because Oda like most japanese don't know the generally diffrence between the african countries. Trust me he doesnt mean an arabic country from Africa.)
Sanji - French
Chopper - Canada
Robin - Russia
Franky - USA
Brook - AustriaSo let's speculate the rest,
Fishman island and the fishmen/mermen etc are based on African americans.
Donquixote Doflamingo - based on the novel Don Quixote, so spanish from the novel... and dressrosa seems a bit spanish, no?
Dracule Mihawk - Seems like a mix between Dracula and Juan SĂĄnchez Villa-Lobos RamĂrez.. so yes, SzĂ©kelys/Romanian.
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@Croco~Boy:
Robin could be Egyptian, and Monet as German. I'll think about the other characters.
Robin is apparently Russian.
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Robin is apparently Russian.
Japanese stereotypes for Russians all seem to be of them being these mysterious elegant silent ice nobles.
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@Monkey:
Japanese stereotypes for Russians all seem to be of them being these mysterious elegant silent ice nobles.
Quite different from western stereotypes.Well tall and depressed/dark is somewhat of a stereotype they used to have in the old days. You know with Dostoevsky and all⊠:)
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Doffy is probably spanish.
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@Monkey:
Shanks doesn't even remotely look or come off as Puerto Rican.
True, he doesn't fit the stereotypical Puerto Rican look, but I don't rely on appearance alone to judge them.
I also look into their personality, attire, and stereotypes, etc.
! If you care about appearance, Ricky Martin could resemble Shanks.
-Kuzan: African-American (Miami)
-Kizaru: Italian (New York)
-Akainu: Japanese (Hawaii)
-Issho: Japan
-Sugar: Russian
-Baby 5: French
-Kuma: Russian
-Smoker: Russian
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@Croco~Boy:
True, he doesn't fit the stereotypical Puerto Rican look, but I don't rely on appearance alone to judge them.
I don't know where you live but the only place with more Puerto Ricans than my area is Puerto Rico. And while there's a whole lot of looks they can have, "pale redhead" is not one of them loll.
There's an island or two I can think of though that fits him! Just not that one.I also look into their personality, attire, and stereotypes, etc.
Is Ricky Martin the only Puerto Rican you know of because lol.
Aside from not looking like him at all (you do know the anime randomly gives some characters darker skin out of nowhere right), Ricky Martin, a gay popstar, does not fit a single Puerto Rican stereotype I can think of.-Kuzan: African-American (Miami)
Why Miami??
Ironically a sorta European/African mix looking guy like Aokiji is much more Puerto Rican looking than Shanks.-Kizaru: Italian (New York)
-Akainu: Japanese (Hawaii)
Why the Americans cities loll.
Italy and Japan, but not in Italy or Japanese?
Akainu having a shirt doesn't really fit with a relaxed place like Hawaii. And New York Italians are not relaxed either lol.
Kizaru is like some old Italian man sitting in a cafe in rural Sicily, not the bustle hustle. If we go off the name, because he's as based off a Japanese actor as Akainu's guy is.-Sugar: Russian
I don't get it.
-Smoker: Russian
He's such an American "tough cop" stereotype it's not even funny lol.
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i think doflamingo italian