yeah i will definitely try listening to the chronic sometime.
and as for jay-z, no i haven't listened to him alot. i only heard a few tracks from him (which i really liked though), the one he did with Eminem "Renegades" and "99 problems".
i listen to mostly underground east coast rappers like Mobb deep, G rap, Onyx and Cormega. Eminem and D12 are dope as fuck. i also used to listen to Hopsin, but i don't know i feel like he's becoming too preachy and at times pretentious. i still come back to him though, he made this parody song called "no words" where he makes fun of chief keef and other talentless rappers. check it out it's very funny:
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he made this parody song called "no words" where makes fun of chief keef and other talentless rappers.
What do you define as talentless?
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his simplistic flow and rhyming skills. like for example in his song "i don't like", he ends every bar in it with the same rhyme "i don't like". not only that, but his lyrics are very weak too imo.
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his simplistic flow and rhyming skills. like for example in his song "i don't like", he ends every bar in it with the same rhyme "i don't like". not only that, but his lyrics are very weak too imo.
p.s i don't really want to sound like im an elitist jerk (because im not). so if you like him and enjoy his music, thats good for you. i definitely won't fault you for it :)Allright. Its fine to hear someones opinion that isn't just: ''HE IS A TOTAL RETARD MAN, NEW RAP MUSIC SUCKS!!!''
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@superv:
his simplistic flow and rhyming skills. like for example in his song "i don't like", he ends every bar in it with the same rhyme "i don't like". not only that, but his lyrics are very weak too imo.
p.s i don't really want to sound like im an elitist jerk (because im not). so if you like him and enjoy his music, thats good for you. i definitely won't fault you for it :) -
Dude, I've gotta go down that list when I've got time. Busdriver is really underrated and that's about all I recognize there (besides the bottom four), haha.
A friend introduced me to Lil Ugly Mane somewhat recently and I really dig his stuff. He had a killer album right at the end of 2015.
I'd had this sitting on my HD for a while - got it from his "name your price" thing on bandcamp… finally peeped it and shit is dope. Was kind of expecting more of the same old but dude really mixed it up this time around. Beats remind me of some FanDam era El-P type shit, especially the interludes… and actually his voice/rapping reminds me of rass kass or early 2000s cage. Hell, the album honestly sounds like it could've been an early 2ks Def Jux release, and that isn't a bad thing.
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his simplistic flow and rhyming skills. like for example in his song "i don't like", he ends every bar in it with the same rhyme "i don't like". not only that, but his lyrics are very weak too imo.
p.s i don't really want to sound like im an elitist jerk (because im not). so if you like him and enjoy his music, thats good for you. i definitely won't fault you for it :)Chief Keef is an acquired taste. You have to look past lyrical badness and just view it as parody rap. That being said, he paved the road for a lot of skilled rappers from Chicago who rap about the same type of stuff he does, just better.
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the same guy from the diplomats? i didn't really dig their tunes. give me the best track he made in your opinion.
I think you mean Cam'ron, Common is an oldschool rapper/b-boy from the mid-west. He also has a lot of collabo's with Kanye West even a whole album was produced by Yeezy. Choosing a favorite song is quite a hard task with Common. He has a lot of great songs lyrically but i will choose 3 in random order
crazy delivery and flow he has here
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This is his "best" song as many people say but it has a great message to me personally
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This is when he started working with Dilla and my personal favorite:
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i listened to this one before it got taken down.
another link for it for those who don't know what it was. honestly, he's much better here than he was in "i don't like" so yeah he's probably not as bad as i thought he was.
@Brotato:.
interest sparked. this guy (group?) is wild af, the beat is crazy too.
@Stalley:.
hey i've seen this guy in a couple of movies. i listened to the first song, dude is crazy talented. ill go through the rest.
here's a rare mixtape track from Kool G rap and Joell Ortiz:
it's another conscious rap song. i know, i know, they're depressing, but i fucking love em. i love when rappers rap about their struggles.
it's about selling drugs, G rap describes in the first verse how it made his character's life better "you took me out of the darkness and gave me a dime of light… used to live with roaches, now im noticed by everyone in sight", and the second verse describes how it fucked up his life.
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http://pitchfork.com/news/63216-martin-shkreli-releases-insane-ghostface-killah-diss-video/
So this happened…
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interest sparked. this guy (group?) is wild af, the beat is crazy too.
Word.. it's Denzel Curry, the kid is like the antithesis of mumblerap… prolly gonna see him really blowing up this year. That vid was his tour announcement, and I guess that song will be on the new album he's got coming out soon.
Here's his first LP if u wanna check it out.
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http://pitchfork.com/news/63216-martin-shkreli-releases-insane-ghostface-killah-diss-video/
So this happened…yeah i heard about this.
not sure that's a smart to do while he's on bail from a fraud case, threatening ghostface and implying thats he's gonna send his goons on him.
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i listened to this one before it got taken down.
another link for it for those who don't know what it was. honestly, he's much better here than he was in "i don't like" so yeah he's probably not as bad as i thought he was.As a rapper, I think Keef is really bad. But it isn't so much about his rapping, because in drill, lyrics isn't really the point. Drill is more about feeling, mantric choruses that work best when you're drunk or high. It's basically chronicles of gang warfare and warnings to other gangs and members. These rappers openly disrespects other gangs, disrespect fallen rivals and talk about people around them who are violent criminals.
''they whacked Lil Jojo off his bike and took his s*it like Debo'', referring to the actual slaying off Joseph Coleman. The level of disrespect amongst these rappers sometimes scare the crap out of me and I feel guilty listening to it. But still, I can't deny that it's pretty catchy:getlost:. There are however rappers from Chicago that do everything Chief Keef does except better. These dudes can really rap, I mean better than most people in the mainstream, without sacrificing the appeal of Chief Keef:!
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So does anybody got any news on Kanye's "Greatest Album Ever(Swish/Waves/whatever)"? Is it a least better than the dumpster fire that is Yeezus? Kanye's kind of lost his mind my expectations are kind of low. Anything close to the quality of Graduation would be cool.
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So does anybody got any news on Kanye's "Greatest Album Ever(Swish/Waves/whatever)"? Is it a least better than the dumpster fire that is Yeezus? Kanye's kind of lost his mind my expectations are kind of low. Anything close to the quality of Graduation would be cool.
Welp. I liked Yeezus.
But if you are more in to his older projects then i think that you'd like Waves. It seems to be like at mix of all of the styles he have worked with yet.
Look at his soundcloud if you want to get an idea of what it might sound like: https://soundcloud.com/kanyewest But you know we can't be a hundred percent sure before the full project is actually released.
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It's weird because out of Kanye's two "experimental" albums (808's and Heartbreak & Yeezus) I enjoyed 808's and just did not like Yeezus. Everything else is he's done is good, especially Watch the Throne with Jay-Z and to a much lesser extent Cruel Summer. I just hope he gives up on trying to create new genres of music every other album. It's just not worth it. I prefer normal Kanye I was happy when he went back normal more or less with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Maybe I just hate Yeezus because I can't get that Bound 2 song/video out of my head smh…
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though lol at "Keep it 300 like the Romans"
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Does anybody here listing to clipping.?
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It's weird because out of Kanye's two "experimental" albums (808's and Heartbreak & Yeezus) I enjoyed 808's and just did not like Yeezus. Everything else is he's done is good, especially Watch the Throne with Jay-Z and to a much lesser extent Cruel Summer. I just hope he gives up on trying to create new genres of music every other album. It's just not worth it. I prefer normal Kanye I was happy when he went back normal more or less with My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Maybe I just hate Yeezus because I can't get that Bound 2 song/video out of my head smh…
I don't see why anybody would want Kanye to stay in one style, if he did that we would have missed out on so much classic music, it's the only reason why he's where he is today.
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Who would you guys say your favorite rapper is? Mines is definitely Jay Z.
tough question. but ill have to go with Onyx, hardcore rap's finest and craziest MCs.
here's one of their best songs imo:!
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I like Kanye, I really do, his music has never been as innovative as the media/masses make it out to be while he basks in some ego-masturbatory "I invented dis" shit. You can make the argument that it is innovative on the scale of Kanye's artistic trajectory but in hip-hop's larger context? Nah.
I liked parts of Yeezus but didn't like it as a whole. It just reeked of being a disingenuous attempt at frankensteining bits and pieces of other experimental/industrial rap shit by other artists that'd been around the scene for a while. It just isn't the kind of stuff that normally breaks out of the ground and into the mainstream. That being said I really do love the variety of sounds/styles that the craft has to offer and can only move forward by risks… and I appreciate Kanye's misguided attempt at trying to ride some of those waves into the mainstream at least, I guess.
But for the most part he does make really good music.
@Monkey:
i also liked Yeezus
though lol at "Keep it 300 like the Romans"
I love that line solely for the amount of stupid arguments and theories that it's given birth to.
@superv:
that was good. just a straight up one verse with no chorus or anything
That style always reminds me of this.
Love that sample flip too..
Who would you guys say your favorite rapper is? Mines is definitely Jay Z.
That's a tough question… prolly Breeze Brewin' I guess.
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I don't see why anybody would want Kanye to stay in one style, if he did that we would have missed out on so much classic music, it's the only reason why he's where he is today.
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Who would you guys say your favorite rapper is? Mines is definitely Jay Z.Hmmmm. Touche on the Kanye point. It's just switching styles can be hit or miss you know? As of this moment, Earl Sweatshirt is my favorite rapper. Formerly that honor belonged to Lupe Fiasco but he kind of fell off a bit. Also a huge fan of Danny Brown. I like Kendrick Lamar too but it'd be way to cliche to say he's my favorite, although he's in my top 5.
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Who would you guys say your favorite rapper is? Mines is definitely Jay Z.
That is such a hard question that i really can't answer, but the ones i have been listening to the most recently are probably: Young Thug, Kanye, Killer Mike, EL-P, Danny Brown, and Travis Scott.
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I don't there is any genre more lacking in style and depth than crunk. It's absolutely the worst. With that said I really like Kanyes new song "real friends". The beat is nujabes esque. Astonishing track.
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I don't there is any genre more lacking in style and depth than crunk. It's absolutely the worst.
Allow me to show you a crunk song that i like.
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I've fallen in love with this live version of Heard Em Say
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i really don't like to listen to live music, it's distorted and there's crowd noises…
but i looked for an album version of that song though, i really liked it. never knew Kanye made stuff like that, always figured him for a pop rapper. i guess i was wrong to reject mainstream rap entirely.
anyways here's another of my favorite songs from onyx:
it's about… just listen to it, it's very cool.
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Some korean stuff for everyone.
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Came out a few months ago but I discovered it today thanks to a friend.
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Came out a few months ago but I discovered it today thanks to a friend.
When K. and Cole come together, I come too.Supposedly they're doing an album together. Hope it's true.
Edit: Seems to be legit and actually really soon. Check it out:
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Supposedly they're doing an album together. Hope it's true.
Edit: Seems to be legit and actually really soon. Check it out:
That would be one of the greatest things to happen to hip-hop lately.
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I will probably give it a listen, but i have to admit that i don't really like J. Cole's music. I don't know what it is about him, but i have just never got caught by it.
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Fucking hell Kanye.
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Fucking hell Kanye.
At this point, this fool is trolling for publicity lol. Never change Kanye…
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Fucking hell Kanye.
Me: What now? Probably some assholeish but bizarrely cool thing again. I kind of like him being a crazy jerk! Just like the rock stars of the pre-90's world! People are being weenies again I'm sure.
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while i don't like his meltdown, i have to (somewhat) side with him. i mean, how the hell would he have known what kk stood for?
in a world where everyone makes jokes about me and my wife, i would probably flip out at the nearest hint of a jap at her too… maybe.
while im in this thread let me drop a tune:
cormega is a big fan of scarface, watch him (or hear him i guess) in this badass song pay tribute to it.
his flow is sick:
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This new Kanye might tie Late Registration as my favorite.
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This new Kanye might tie Late Registration as my favorite.
Holy shit it's outstanding.There sure are some really great songs on it. But i just dont understand why he kept Facts.
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There sure are some really great songs on it. But i just dont understand why he kept Facts.
It's a bonus.
Post Silver Surfer is a different world.
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The Life of Pablo is magnificent. So someone above said that Kanye hasn't always been a trendsetter in different words, but I would like to disagree. At the least, Dropout, Graduation 808's (especially 808's) and MBDTF are probably the most influential rap albums of the 2000s. I don't think it's really close as far as how he influenced mainstream style, and while the sounds he brought aren't just the product of Kanye (Cudi is just as much, if not more responsible for the 808's sound which is still the sound of today) he is the face that matters.
He's also my favorite rapper along with MF DOOM/King Geedorah/Viktor Vaugn 1A and 1B, so I'm probably biased.
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The only people who don't respect kanye are either racists or stupid. I was never too much into his music but the song "real friends" really got to me. The production beat is something akin to nujabes or jdilla which I love. Just an all around superb track and the lyrics are definitely relatable. The vibe is definitely nujabes and jdilla esque.
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The only people who don't respect kanye are either racists or stupid.
that's a very narrow point of view man. if i find him unprofessional and childish in social media or events ("imma let you finish" springs to mind) i don't think that makes me either of those.
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Need some recs for some instrumental stuff. I have some charts and lists I'm going through but actual people are better for recs than that. I want stuff similar to Blockhead's The Music Scene and Music by Cavelight as well as Endtroducing. Sample heavy instrumental hip hop like that. Planning on listening to Wax Tailor's first album in a second and I've seen comparisons with that.
I also like Kid Koala but that's not really the same thing.
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Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind from Jedi Mind tricks is a known (ab)user of samples in his production, so you may like his solo stuff or just listen to Jedi Mind tricks instrumental albums.
one, he sampled the guitar segment and the chorus of song in it. there's also (this is a pretty good fan recreation of the beat because unfortunately there's no instrumental of it).
one of his best tracks imo is
if you want to know more about his samples see this link http://www.whosampled.com/Jedi-Mind-Tricks/
and here is two instrumental albums of his:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHM1MRwUfb-inJWs6Lkd5KXoBqh8r0htC
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpM4vrHR-AdQLrxwyhP3cfdpVBwbiR6kVoh and i remember an obscure russian producer called Nuttkase, a fitting name because he sampled the famous "in the house in the heart beat" in his track
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I like JMT a lot but considering I don't listen to hip hop too much it seems kind of strange to me listening to instrumental versions of already existing albums. Not sure why. Maybe I'll give them a try and that guy's solo stuff too.
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Was not expecting new Kendrick last night. Shit's great.
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I would really, really like Earl Sweatshirt to stop dicking around and drop some new shit. Kind of like Kendrick did last night. I need more shit from my favorite rapper!